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I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!

 
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I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!
The top has a picture of frederick webber, and the first bold title reads "Deioptimi Maximi, Universitatis Rerum Fontis Acoriginis Adgloriam"

also in bold/larger title "Concilium Supremum Conciliorum Orbis Terrarum Pareus"

The name it is awarded to is Ney Milton Salter, and it is dated "Septembris 1918."

It has three smaller gold seals and one larger gold seal.

3 signatures, hard to make out as they are personal signatures, but the title beneath the sigs. are "Scriba Generalis," "Imperator Excelsus," Cancellarius Grandisz."

The certificate/diploma is covered with masonic symbols.

It is definitely not a reprint, very original, i also bought the High School Diploma of the same person, dated 1902.

Any information would be greatly appreciated, as I am not very educated on mason history...

THANKS!!

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I'll post a picture if anyone has any good information or wants to see it...
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find out it's name, (hint)it is not a certificate nor diploma.
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If it's stupid or borders on demented or retarded it is masonic.
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WoW! Post It!banana2
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Frederick Webber was a 33rd degree Grand Secretary General of the Southern Jurisdiction (1827-1907) and the degree is from the Sovereign College of Masonic Degrees USA. Not sure who this Milton character is, but he is just probably a mason who did not leave a mark in media or history with his work to track or trace.

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holy shit. what do you want for it?
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Frederick Webber was a 33rd degree Grand Secretary General of the Southern Jurisdiction (1827-1907) and the degree is from the Sovereign College of Masonic Degrees USA. Not sure who this Milton character is, but he is just probably a mason who did not leave a mark in media or history with his work to track or trace.
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The Google-Fu is strong in this one.
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Frederick Webber was a 33rd degree Grand Secretary General of the Southern Jurisdiction (1827-1907) and the degree is from the Sovereign College of Masonic Degrees USA. Not sure who this Milton character is, but he is just probably a mason who did not leave a mark in media or history with his work to track or trace.
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The Google-Fu is strong in this one.
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fighter1 Yes, grashopper....
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Frederick Webber was a 33rd degree Grand Secretary General of the Southern Jurisdiction (1827-1907) and the degree is from the Sovereign College of Masonic Degrees USA. Not sure who this Milton character is, but he is just probably a mason who did not leave a mark in media or history with his work to track or trace.
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OP should call these people. They will assist.
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He could be a relative,father of? this Milton Salter who was a Mason


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Milt, 92, was born in Almira, WA on July 31, 1916, to Milton C. Salter Sr. and Gerda (Eliasen) Salter. Milt attended school in Almira, graduating high school in 1935. Being an ambitious young man, Milt moved out of the family home at age 16. He sought and found work at various farms in the area as a hired hand, working for mainly room and board. He cared for and rode behind a team of 6-8 horses. He also would help his father build windmills for the farmers, all while attending school. Milt had a variety of jobs after graduation. He worked as a Drayline driver, hauling the mail from the train to the post office, coal from the train cars to businesses and homes, or sometimes groceries to homesteads. Milt also worked on Grand Coulee Dam. While working there, he met LaMaye Purcell Steinbach. They were married November 28, 1940. Milt then went to work for Inland Motor Freight, keeping he and LaMaye moving to Coulee Dam, Wilbur, Moses Lake, Sunnyside, Jordan Valley, OR and McDermott, NV. When his stepson, Dean Steinbach, reached school age, the family moved to Cashmere, LaMaye's hometown, and then settled in Wenatchee. Milt started working for Consolidated Freightways in 1945, earning several safe driving awards. He retired after 33 years in 1978. In 1951, Milt and LaMaye bought a small farm in East Wenatchee. There was an apricot orchard, which was turned into pasture land. Through the years, the family raised horses, beef, pigs, chickens, rabbits, ducks, geese, dogs and cats. This made a great place to raise children. One of Milt's joys was raising two of his grandchildren, Angela Steinbach and David Steinbach. He was a very active grandparent, from taking the kids for horse and buggy rides and teaching them to ride horses, to helping them in Camp Fire, Boy Scouts, 4-H, FFA and school activities. Another joy for Milt was family camping and fishing trips. Milt was a life member of the Masonic Riverside Lodge #112, Scottish Rites and the Wenatchee Aerie F.O.E. #204. After retirement, Milt worked part time for
M & E Memorial Markers. He also volunteered for 25 years, for the Community Food Distribution, where he enjoyed seeing and talking to community members. Milt found love again in 1991, when he married Ethel Cloke, making their home in East Wenatchee. They spent many hours traveling, visiting friends, enjoying the scenery and each other's company. One of the recent highlights of his life, was being honored as a Grand Marshall of the Almira County Fair Parade, for being one of Almira's original volunteer Firemen. The most recent highlight for Milt, was being chosen Valentines Day King at Colonial Vista Care Center.
Milt is survived by his wife, Ethel Salter; step-children, Dean Steinbach and Arline Purcell; grandchildren, Angela Steinbach, David Steinbach, Stephanie Roos, Deann Sorenson, Tracie McGuire, Eric Purcell, PJ Cloke, Staci Balaro, Chad Cantrell, Misti Stephan and Michael Cantrell; sisters, Elsa Baker and Imogene Olson; brother, Elvin Salter; 36 great-grandchildren; and four
great-great-grandchildren; and was the favorite uncle to many nieces and nephews. Milt was preceded in death by his wife, LaMaye Salter; step-children, Paul Cloke and Marilyn Cantrell; six sisters; and three brothers.
The family would like to thank the caring doctors, nurses, assistants and other staff at Colonial Vista Care Center, for the tender loving care he received during his nine month stay.
To honor Milt's wishes, there will be No Service. In lieu of flowers, Memorial donations may be sent to Shriner's Children's Hospitals.
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Ney Milton Salter, Aug 14 1884

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Re: I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!
i came across something at a garage sale yesterday exact same descripters. for a jacob kaplan 32degree may 1926 3 small seals 1 very large 3 signatures with 33 degree stamps near them and at the top albert pike any information would be
greatly appreciated.

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This Milton Salter Sr. Is my 2nd great grandfather! I will buy them from you if your willing to sell.

Shannon Steinbach
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If it's stupid or borders on demented or retarded it is masonic.
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U mean like you are?
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None of the responses you have recieved are correct.
The Gentlemen's Titles indicated that they were the senior officers of the Southern District of the Scotish Rite which the Branch of Masonary that supports, the Worldwide Childrens Hospitals. ALL services are provided to children at NO COST to the parents or anyone else.
The certificate you purchased was given to ONLY 32nd degrees masons.
They are not longer provided.
I am a 32nd Degree
If you are not a mason. Find one and ask to join. If you wish to give the certicate to a local lodge they would probably appreciate receiving it.
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Re: I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!
That is my Great Grandfather. He was a DR. In California. Dr. Ney M Salter. If you still have it I would like to see a scanned photo of it please... :)
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Re: I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!
i also have a document with albert pike on it same symbols and 3signatures all 33rd awarded to henry hart in november 1943. i would appreciate knowing exactly what it is and if it has any value?
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i also have a document with albert pike on it same symbols and 3signatures all 33rd awarded to henry hart in november 1943. i would appreciate knowing exactly what it is and if it has any value?
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th[ there is no value to the document only to the person who received it. Look in the phone book for the Scottish rite temple near you and donate it to them. they can find the family of the Brother.
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so where is it?
I'm da party poopa
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Re: I recently bought an old masonic certificate/diploma at a flea market, and am having a hard time finding information.... HELP!!!
It's a Scottish Rite masonic certificate of rank. One of the lower ranks but not sure which as I sold all my Dad's Masonic regalia.

My Dad's went up to 30 degree. Knight of Kadosh.
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None of the responses you have recieved are correct.
The Gentlemen's Titles indicated that they were the senior officers of the Southern District of the Scotish Rite which the Branch of Masonary that supports, the Worldwide Childrens Hospitals. ALL services are provided to children at NO COST to the parents or anyone else.
The certificate you purchased was given to ONLY 32nd degrees masons.
They are not longer provided.
I am a 32nd Degree
If you are not a mason. Find one and ask to join. If you wish to give the certicate to a local lodge they would probably appreciate receiving it.
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What do you mean it was only given to 32nd degree Masons?

did he say it said "Sublime Prince of The Holy secret?"

Certificates are given to ALL the ranks.
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Hi,I also have a document with this characteristics and don't know much about, it's in Latin and has the same masonic symbols. can you send me a pic of yours? eveinthe805@yahoo.com
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I have the same thing but to a carl richard beebe. I just want to know if there is any value. Guyfrost77@yahoo.com
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i also have a document with albert pike on it same symbols and 3signatures all 33rd awarded to henry hart in november 1943. i would appreciate knowing exactly what it is and if it has any value?
 Quoting: natalie powell 12705315

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