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What about the time it takes for your brain to process time it self?

If it's possible to stop time, does time exist for that period of time while time is stopped? "How long did you stop time for?"

If time stops, and you move your body, does it take time within the stopped time to move your body, or does it happen instantly?

Could you even think if time stopped?

insanity..
 Quoting: Snurbs


I think you would be interested in Femtoseconds and the quantum mind. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"For context, a femtosecond is to a second, what a second is to about 31.7 million years."

That's something to reflect on.
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Right. IMO, time cannot literally 'stop' while in the physical, but can be slowed down by 'consciousness' enough to appear 'stopped'. An example of this is people experiencing a car crash, and reliving it as if everything took place in slow motion. Basically, consciousness went and started processing outside the normal brain activity and starting pulling directly from the non-material...

Our consciousness resides in the non-material as well as the material. Our waking hours, the consciousness pulls from the material aspect of our existence...or the physical.

Our dreaming state, the consciousness pulls from the non-material aspects of our existence...or, the spiritual.
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izzak, it seems we are on similar thought patterns.
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we are on similar holons lol, im off to eat!!!

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Spacetime is usually interpreted with space as being three-dimensional and time playing the role of a fourth dimension
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space enclosed gully or not
echoes... helps echoing the sound
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SickScent...that book has a really good description of time...

From the book...
Time is only an illusion produced by the succession of our states of consciousness as we travel through eternal duration, and it does not exist where no consciousness exists in which the illusion can be produced but "lies asleep".

The present is only a mathematical line which divides that part of eternal duration that we call the future, from that part which we call the past...these two eternities constitute that duration in which alone anything has true existence, were our senses but able to cognize it.

Like all things manifested, time is relative to duration. ALL creation is done IN duration, and THAT is where thoughtforms are built.

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Aruna, as you can see, that post you did resonated very strongly with me. I'll have to pick me up a copy of that book.
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fully gilly or
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The Middle Way is the meeting point between nihilism and material realism..

Put simply, it states that reality does not "not exist" (nihilism), nor dies it exist (material realism)
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Spacetime is usually interpreted with space as being three-dimensional and time playing the role of a fourth dimension
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space enclosed gully or not
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Yes, but they are inseparable as well. You cannot have time without space, and vice versa. Same thing with electricity and magnetics...interesting correlations...One has to do with charge/change and one has to do with field.
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Thread: The field of HUMAN ENERGY (Page 64)
[link to taoism.about.com]

For the practitioner of Inner Alchemy, the human body is revealed to be the meeting-place between Heaven and Earth: a Rainbow Bridge between the Worlds. In Taoism, this energetic landscape is described in terms of the Dantians, the Snow Mountain area and the meridian system. In the Hindu yoga systems, this same terrain is spoken of in terms of the chakras, and the kundalini energy that rises from the base of the spine, awakening these energetic centers one by one.


hmm

The book
[link to www.amazon.com]

The site...

[link to soul1.org]

The seven planes and 49 subplanes visual.
[link to soul1.org]

:treebridge:

AND the master key... [link to taoism.about.com]

The Solar Plexus has been likened to the sun of the body, because it is a central point of distribution for the energy which the body is constantly generating. This energy is very real energy, and this sun is a very real sun, and the energy is being distributed by very real nerves to all parts of the body, and is thrown off in an atmosphere which envelopes the body.

6. If this radiation is sufficiently strong the person is called magnetic; he is said to be filled with personal magnetism. Such a person may wield an immense power for good. His presence alone will often bring comfort to the troubled minds with which he comes in contact.

 Quoting: ArunaLuna

 Quoting: SickScent

Something is literally wrong with my solar plexus, I used to be magnetic, but recently I've been feeling a nervousness in my stomach, and I've noticed that instead of attracting people or giving a friendly vibe I do the opposite!!!
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SickScent...that book has a really good description of time...

From the book...
Time is only an illusion produced by the succession of our states of consciousness as we travel through eternal duration, and it does not exist where no consciousness exists in which the illusion can be produced but "lies asleep".

The present is only a mathematical line which divides that part of eternal duration that we call the future, from that part which we call the past...these two eternities constitute that duration in which alone anything has true existence, were our senses but able to cognize it.

Like all things manifested, time is relative to duration. ALL creation is done IN duration, and THAT is where thoughtforms are built.

 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Aruna, as you can see, that post you did resonated very strongly with me. I'll have to pick me up a copy of that book.
 Quoting: SickScent


That is pretty much what I said a few posts above too, in a slightly different way. Mine was a paraphrase of the discussion on the subject in the book "The Quantum and the Lotus: A Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet", which I am currently reading

[link to www.amazon.com]
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nice to see you SS!! afro


about apple pie, laundry, toilet paper, etc...

They correlate just fine with Buddhism time measurement.

A measure of time could be the 2 weeks between changing the roll of toilet paper, etc. No reason to argue with SS!
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That is pretty much what I said a few posts above too, in a slightly different way. Mine was a paraphrase of the discussion on the subject in the book "The Quantum and the Lotus: A Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet", which I am currently reading

[link to www.amazon.com]
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nice to see you SS!! afro


about apple pie, laundry, toilet paper, etc...

They correlate just fine with Buddhism time measurement.

A measure of time could be the 2 weeks between changing the roll of toilet paper, etc. No reason to argue with SS!
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hi

Miss you! Sorry, been out-of-sorts.
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That is pretty much what I said a few posts above too, in a slightly different way. Mine was a paraphrase of the discussion on the subject in the book "The Quantum and the Lotus: A Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet", which I am currently reading

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Maybe I should log in for these kinds of threads so I am not just a random AC and thus present some continuity heh
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My new sig is one of my favorite quotes heh
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 Quoting: SickScent


SickScent...that book has a really good description of time...

From the book...
Time is only an illusion produced by the succession of our states of consciousness as we travel through eternal duration, and it does not exist where no consciousness exists in which the illusion can be produced but "lies asleep".

The present is only a mathematical line which divides that part of eternal duration that we call the future, from that part which we call the past...these two eternities constitute that duration in which alone anything has true existence, were our senses but able to cognize it.

Like all things manifested, time is relative to duration. ALL creation is done IN duration, and THAT is where thoughtforms are built.

 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Rainbow Bridge
the process of purification
Ut Supra Ut Infra

In Christianity it is Christ, the path.

The Bride Infra becomes whole with the Bridegroom Supra. eternal

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My new sig is one of my favorite quotes heh
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That is awesome.
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Maybe I should log in for these kinds of threads so I am not just a random AC and thus present some continuity heh
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Continuity is an integral constitution of chaos.
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izzak, it seems we are on similar thought patterns.
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we are on similar holons lol, im off to eat!!!
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if time is a map
space is a paper
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izzak, it seems we are on similar thought patterns.
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we are on similar holons lol, im off to eat!!!
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lol
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Here's some of that quote about Time in the Quantum and the Lotus book (which is in the form of a discussion between a physicist and a buddhist monk):

( [link to www.amazon.com] )

"M: The classic view in Buddhism is that physical and absolute time is a mere concept with no inherent existence. Time belongs to the relative truth of the world of phenomena, of experience. Time has no inherent existence because it does not exist in the present moment. It's impossible to pin it down at the beginning, during, or at the end of a given period. If we divide a period of time into a beginning, a middle, and an end, then it's clear that the whole doesn't exist in any one of these three parts. Nor does the period exist apart from it's beginning, middle, and end. Thus a "period of time" is a purely conventional notion. Time, like space, exists only in relation to our experience; it is a concept linked to perceptible change.

.... (skipping a large section of the discussion)

M: We can debunk the idea of physical time by considering that because an instant has no duration, then several instants have no duration, either. Thus time is merely a label we place on our perceptions of change.

....

In his Abhidharmakosha, Vasubandhu wrote, "Because of the immediate destruction of the instant, there is no real movement, but the production of instants is unbroken"
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Here's some of that quote about Time in the Quantum and the Lotus book (which is in the form of a discussion between a physicist and a buddhist monk):

( [link to www.amazon.com] )

"M: The classic view in Buddhism is that physical and absolute time is a mere concept with no inherent existence. Time belongs to the relative truth of the world of phenomena, of experience. Time has no inherent existence because it does not exist in the present moment. It's impossible to pin it down at the beginning, during, or at the end of a given period. If we divide a period of time into a beginning, a middle, and an end, then it's clear that the whole doesn't exist in any one of these three parts. Nor does the period exist apart from it's beginning, middle, and end. Thus a "period of time" is a purely conventional notion. Time, like space, exists only in relation to our experience; it is a concept linked to perceptible change.

.... (skipping a large section of the discussion)

M: We can debunk the idea of physical time by considering that because an instant has no duration, then several instants have no duration, either. Thus time is merely a label we place on our perceptions of change.

....

In his Abhidharmakosha, Vasubandhu wrote, "Because of the immediate destruction of the instant, there is no real movement, but the production of instants is unbroken"
 Quoting: nomind


Thanks Nomind...I love this kind of stuff.
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Thanks Nomind...I love this kind of stuff.
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Seek without Seeking

There is something in each of you that you will only be able to perceive when you turn around. So how does one turn around? By nonseeking seeking, seeking without seeking. This is precisely what people find hard to deal with or get into. How can you seek if you are not seeking? How can you not seek if you are seeking? If you only seek, how is that different from pursuing sounds and chasing forms? If you do not seek at all, how are you different from inert matter?

You must seek, and yet without seeking; not seek, yet still seek. If you can manage to penetrate this, you will then manage to harmonize seeking and nonseeking. So it is said, "Nonseeking nonseeking—the body of reality is perfectly quiescent. Seeking seeking—responsive function does not miss. Seeking without seeking, nonseeking seeking—objects and cognition merge, substance and function are one." Therefore you find the three bodies, four knowledges, five eyes, and six spiritual powers all come to light from this. Students must be able to turn around and search all the way through in this way before they can attain realization.

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It takes one hour and a half to make a real good apple pie. Same amount of time to do two loads of laundry. Take your pick you can't have both; I vote for the pie.
Dream on dreamers. There are things to do.
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It took the apples months to ripen and the wash water has been here since before concepts were concepts. You can have both, just not at the same time, lest you have to re-wash your laundry. Dreamers do and doers dream, and for that I am thankful.

Thanks for the thread SS, I hope the garden fares well.
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It takes one hour and a half to make a real good apple pie. Same amount of time to do two loads of laundry. Take your pick you can't have both; I vote for the pie.
Dream on dreamers. There are things to do.
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What is this "hour", other than an arbitrary slice of length decided more or less randomly by some group of humans at some point?

There is no actually thing known as "hour", and this is according to science.
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Hyohakusha.

This is the state of moving
without direction.
This is the matter of time.
To still this in contemplation,
changes the whole of the state of being.

To be still and travel swiftly without goal.
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Shabbat is a day of sacred Time, in the literal sense it is Saturday, in the spiritual sense is the Messiah, when one is consecrated to be able to live in one with Maschiach,or in Eternity.

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Shabbat is a day of sacred Time, in the literal sense it is Saturday, in the spiritual sense is the Messiah, when one is consecrated to be able to live in one with Maschiach,or in Eternity.


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Time is Sacred, don't waste it!



[link to en.wikipedia.org] Vesica piscis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Vesica Piscis

The vesica piscis is a shape which is the intersection of two circles with the same radius, intersecting in such a way that the center of each circle lies on the circumference of the other. The name literally means the "bladder of a fish" in Latin. The shape is also called mandorla ("almond" in Italian).

The term is also used more generally for any symmetric lens.[1]
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The mathematical ratio of the width of the vesica piscis to its height is the square root of 3, or approximately 1.7320508... (since if straight lines are drawn connecting the centers of the two circles with each other and with the two points where the circles intersect, two equilateral triangles join along an edge). The ratios 265:153 = 1.7320261... and 1351:780 = 1.7320513... are two of a series of approximations to this value, each with the property that no better approximation can be obtained with smaller whole numbers. Archimedes of Syracuse, in his On the Measurement of the Circle, uses these ratios as upper and lower bounds:[2]

\tfrac{1351}{780} > \sqrt{3} > \tfrac{265}{153}\,.

One of the numbers in these ratios (153) also appears in the Gospel of John (21:11) as the number of fish Jesus caused to be caught in a miraculous catch of fish,[3] and significance has sometimes been attached to this.

The vesica piscis has been the subject of mystical speculation at several periods of history, and is viewed as important in Freemasonry[4] and some forms of Kabbalah. More recently, numerous New Age authors have interpreted it as a yonic symbol and claimed that this, a reference to the female genitals, is a traditional interpretation.[5][6][7][8][9]
[edit] Uses of the shape

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Spacetime is usually interpreted with space as being three-dimensional and time playing the role of a fourth dimension
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space enclosed gully or not
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i have posted even the same lapsus mistakes-types etc. in this thread in this thymespace in the timeloop again - so noth only thoughts are made us repeat there is the record programmed in a such way that id you engage ti converse in whatever you do that is in the program you are lead to repeat yourself - its the forms and functions that are in this sphere of the field made up and making you you and all at the same time mingle to and fro too in a subtile respondings marks progected so
making - space time and you - a social being

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