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Is the Kundalini raising the same as being filled with the Holy Ghost?

 
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I dont really like religious threads here on GLP. In some special moments, I can feel God providence, and a flow of love. But love somehow isnt present here, it is all warning and caution. Humanity needs love in these times, because we are all lonely and empty hearted. There is no soil for teachings. God can save us only by love.
Teachings drive me into unbearable constant fear of future and my own evilness, in physich form also.
Jesus said: help the weak and poor people, and you help me.
If we love each other, we love Jesus too.
What do you think about this? Pls tell me your opinion.
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I dont really like religious threads here on GLP. In some special moments, I can feel God providence, and a flow of love. But love somehow isnt present here, it is all warning and caution. Humanity needs love in these times, because we are all lonely and empty hearted. There is no soil for teachings. God can save us only by love.
Teachings drive me into unbearable constant fear of future and my own evilness, in physich form also.
Jesus said: help the weak and poor people, and you help me.
If we love each other, we love Jesus too.
What do you think about this? Pls tell me your opinion.
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Heart guy, I don't like religiousity either. All religion is man creating their own ways to follow the Creator and NOT H-S. That's religion.

Relationship is learning H-s Ways and how/when HE wants to be worhsiped. Bad relationships never take the time to find that out.

As for Love, it is no new commandment,

Deut 6

"1Now these [are] the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do [them] in the land whither ye go to possess it: 2That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.

5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:"


What we need to do is Define "Love" with H-s Terms, not our own. Becasue I keep asking people which give me no response, who's DEFINITION of love do we choose? Your's? Mine? Joe Smo's? ask 10 people what love is and you'll get ten different answers, even if they're all christians. You have to use the Creators Definitions in H-s Kingdom.

"And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." 2 John 1:6

"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments." 1 jn 5:2

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I can feel God providence, and a flow of love. But love somehow isnt present here...
What do you think about this?
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It seems that you missed the cake:)






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he speaks on behalf of the building.

but if he wishes to come out of her that would be just as well.....
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you do know christianity mirrors catholics almost exactly? Just about all major religions came from catholics and their hellenistic sun god worship that practice Lawlessness. You can tahnk CONstantine for the Strong Delution. It has produced: Catholics, Islam, Mormans, and last but not least, over 38,000 denominations of christianity! hmmmmm... What did they do before CONstantine....

CONstantine Creed:

“I renounce all customs, rites, legalisms, unleavened breads and sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, and all the other feasts of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspirations, purifications, sanctifications, and propitiations, and fasts and new moons, and Sabbaths, and superstitions, and hymns and chants, and observances and synagogues. absolutely everything Jewish, every Law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with Jews, or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of Cain and the leprosy of Gehazi cleave to me, as well as the legal punishments to which I acknowledge myself liable. And may I be an
anathema in the world to come, and may my soul be set down with Satan and the devils.

Furthermore, any follower of the “Jewish Messiah” who wished to join this “holy community” was compelled to adopt a different set of rules and customs. Subsequently special creeds were drafted, to which the Christian would have to swear such as:

“1 accept all customs, rites, legalism, and feasts of the Romans, sacrifices. Prayers, purifications with water, sanctifications by Pontificus Maxmus (high priests of Rome), propitiations, and feasts, and the New Sabbath “So! dei” (day of the Sun, ), all new chants and observances, and all the foods and drinks of the Romans. In other words, I absolutely accept everything Roman, every new law, rite and custom, of Rome, and the New Roman Religion.”

Here is your daddy christians!! He directly went against those following the Messiah nad H-s Ways.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


the apostles knew this......

study and show thyself approved.

work out your own salvation with great fear and trembling.....

Natsarim, the watchers.....

the first sect.

but we are still not under the law,

thats why in daniel it says "He would think to change times and laws......"
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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This is the one they dont want to look at


"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses'

seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell

you.” (Matthew 23:2-3)




" must obey them and do everything they tell

you."



Does anyone really care what He says ?


or you all want to do your own thing and dont give a sht ?
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I appreciate that. Of course, I notice all the mistakes, so it doesn't seem all that professional to me. But it's kind of funny, sometimes I watch those cake shows and I think... "now that's some shoddy work, they should--" and then I slink down in my chair, lol. I have no room to be pointing fingers, I know.

I guess we all do it sometimes.

It's my third cake, I don't know if you saw my second one (the first one I have no pictures of, it was my 'practice' for the second one--first official one).


 Quoting: Sandi_T


I forgot, I did make a little video of the first "practice" cake.

It's dreadful, but they LOVED it at my husband's job. That's where I sent it to get rid of the evidence. chuckle

Yes, the "handle" on the "coffee" fell down. crying The other smaller one was my first try and it was a major failure.



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This is the one they dont want to look at


"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses'

seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell

you.” (Matthew 23:2-3)




" must obey them and do everything they tell

you."



Does anyone really care what He says ?


or you all want to do your own thing and dont give a sht ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437557


acts 5:29

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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I appreciate that. Of course, I notice all the mistakes, so it doesn't seem all that professional to me. But it's kind of funny, sometimes I watch those cake shows and I think... "now that's some shoddy work, they should--" and then I slink down in my chair, lol. I have no room to be pointing fingers, I know.

I guess we all do it sometimes.

It's my third cake, I don't know if you saw my second one (the first one I have no pictures of, it was my 'practice' for the second one--first official one).


 Quoting: Sandi_T


I forgot, I did make a little video of the first "practice" cake.

It's dreadful, but they LOVED it at my husband's job. That's where I sent it to get rid of the evidence. chuckle

Yes, the "handle" on the "coffee" fell down. crying The other smaller one was my first try and it was a major failure.



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Sandi_T


perhaps you ought to take up plaster of paris and paint as well???

that way you have decorations that dont perish for your kitchen as well???

make a heck of a centerpiece for the kitchen table......
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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This is the one they dont want to look at


"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses'

seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell

you.” (Matthew 23:2-3)





 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437557



Please continue....

3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues...
(Matt 23)





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you do know christianity mirrors catholics almost exactly? Just about all major religions came from catholics and their hellenistic sun god worship that practice Lawlessness. You can tahnk CONstantine for the Strong Delution. It has produced: Catholics, Islam, Mormans, and last but not least, over 38,000 denominations of christianity! hmmmmm... What did they do before CONstantine....

CONstantine Creed:

“I renounce all customs, rites, legalisms, unleavened breads and sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, and all the other feasts of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspirations, purifications, sanctifications, and propitiations, and fasts and new moons, and Sabbaths, and superstitions, and hymns and chants, and observances and synagogues. absolutely everything Jewish, every Law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with Jews, or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of Cain and the leprosy of Gehazi cleave to me, as well as the legal punishments to which I acknowledge myself liable. And may I be an
anathema in the world to come, and may my soul be set down with Satan and the devils.

Furthermore, any follower of the “Jewish Messiah” who wished to join this “holy community” was compelled to adopt a different set of rules and customs. Subsequently special creeds were drafted, to which the Christian would have to swear such as:

“1 accept all customs, rites, legalism, and feasts of the Romans, sacrifices. Prayers, purifications with water, sanctifications by Pontificus Maxmus (high priests of Rome), propitiations, and feasts, and the New Sabbath “So! dei” (day of the Sun, ), all new chants and observances, and all the foods and drinks of the Romans. In other words, I absolutely accept everything Roman, every new law, rite and custom, of Rome, and the New Roman Religion.”

Here is your daddy christians!! He directly went against those following the Messiah nad H-s Ways.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


the apostles knew this......

study and show thyself approved.

work out your own salvation with great fear and trembling.....

Natsarim, the watchers.....

the first sect.

but we are still not under the law,

thats why in daniel it says "He would think to change times and laws......"
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I know christians are not following the Law, that's the problem. ;) did you know that another term fort he Law is Holy Covenent? Daniel 11:28 & 30 so you are basically saying you are not in covenant when you say you are not in the Law. just sayin..

All christians quote Paul whne they seek to destroy the Law, becuase they do not understand the Law. Paul wrote to people that understood that Law, because the NEW testament was NOT around back then. crazy... I know. But UNLEARNED people twisted his words to their own destruction like you are doing now because you have no clue what he is saying in context.

" ...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2 peter 3:15

If you do not understand the front of the book, you will have NO bsasis for the back of the book. Here's Pauls definitions one more time:

Ma’asei Ha Torah = Works of the Law (additions of religous leaders)

Takanah & Gezeran = Decrees (additions of religous leaders)

Ma’aseh = Works (additions of religous leaders)


Halacha = Divine/G-d's Law (Torah) = the one we should Follow!!

Minhag = Tradition (additions of religous leaders)


WAKE UP!!! TIME IS SHORT!!!

Your pastor wispering sweet words of "Peace Peace" in your ear for a mere 10% WILL NOT be there at your judgement!!!

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This is the one they dont want to look at


"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses'

seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell

you.” (Matthew 23:2-3)





 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437557



Please continue....

3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues...
(Matt 23)





;)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


They found the original Hebrew Matthew and it reads more like, "when they sit in Moses Seat, observe to do all that is said" This is becuase when they sat in Moses seat all they could read was Torah! :) but when they got up, they went back to their tradtions and made up rules that are burdensome...
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Devil: "Cause the law my boy puts us into everything! It's the ultimate backstage pass, it's the new priesthood baby! ~ The Devil's Advocate
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2 corinthians 2:14-20

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly , triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come ; but the body is of Christ.

18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen , vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered , and knit together , increaseth with the increase of God.

20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances ,
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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2 corinthians 2:14-20

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly , triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come ; but the body is of Christ.

18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen , vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered , and knit together , increaseth with the increase of God.

20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances ,
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


What did I just say about Paul? Also, the Law that said we could NEVER come back I already told you about and explained. (Deut 24 and Romans 7) read it this time. The Messiah's death Allowed them to Come Back! otherwise the lost sheep of Israel could never come back since they married other gods. And yes NO MAN should judge you on food or Drink, BUT YHVH has permission to do so. And HE has already Judged which animals are for consumption, and which are to be garbage disposals back in Leviticus.

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when it referrs to doing what is told us to do, it is in reguards to submitting to authorities, governing bodies etc.

not to their religious authority, unless your going to take the beasts number??????

the governments are in power cause God wills them to be so, and to rebel against the governing authorities is to rebel against God, unless their tell you to do that which is not of Gods will for you.....

case in point, proclaiming Jesus is Lord, or taking that stupid number.

the apostles didnt neccessarily bow to them as a religious authority, but as a governing authority of law, provided the law didnt keep them from doing what they was to do.

it was at that point the apostles said the "ought to do that which God said to do"

they feared God more than man.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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when it referrs to doing what is told us to do, it is in reguards to submitting to authorities, governing bodies etc.

not to their religious authority, unless your going to take the beasts number??????

the governments are in power cause God wills them to be so, and to rebel against the governing authorities is to rebel against God, unless their tell you to do that which is not of Gods will for you.....

case in point, proclaiming Jesus is Lord, or taking that stupid number.

the apostles didnt neccessarily bow to them as a religious authority, but as a governing authority of law, provided the law didnt keep them from doing what they was to do.

it was at that point the apostles said the "ought to do that which God said to do"

they feared God more than man.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


EXACTLY! :) We are to get our way, truth and Life from The Creator!! NOT man. And HE gave it to H-S people. Not on blood line bases, but on Whoever will Hear H-S voice and FOLLOW H-M.

So if paul says YHVH Divine Law is Abolished so we can do whatever we want, and the Messiah says it will never be abolished and to not teach men to break the least of the commands...

Who Will You Follow??? The Gospel of Messiah? Or the twisted gospel of Paul?? (twisted becuase you do not have the foundation of Torah to know what he was saying)
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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

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the apostles knew this......

study and show thyself approved.

work out your own salvation with great fear and trembling.....

Natsarim, the watchers.....

the first sect.

but we are still not under the law,

thats why in daniel it says "He would think to change times and laws......"
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No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I know christians are not following the Law, that's the problem. ;) did you know that another term fort he Law is Holy Covenent? Daniel 11:28 & 30 so you are basically saying you are not in covenant when you say you are not in the Law. just sayin..

All christians quote Paul whne they seek to destroy the Law, becuase they do not understand the Law. Paul wrote to people that understood that Law, because the NEW testament was NOT around back then. crazy... I know. But UNLEARNED people twisted his words to their own destruction like you are doing now because you have no clue what he is saying in context.

" ...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2 peter 3:15

If you do not understand the front of the book, you will have NO bsasis for the back of the book. Here's Pauls definitions one more time:

Ma’asei Ha Torah = Works of the Law (additions of religous leaders)

Takanah & Gezeran = Decrees (additions of religous leaders)

Ma’aseh = Works (additions of religous leaders)


Halacha = Divine/G-d's Law (Torah) = the one we should Follow!!

Minhag = Tradition (additions of religous leaders)


WAKE UP!!! TIME IS SHORT!!!

Your pastor wispering sweet words of "Peace Peace" in your ear for a mere 10% WILL NOT be there at your judgement!!!
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


lets get this one thing clear right now. i do not go to a church.

i did try to go to a church for a very brief amount of time.

but it ended soon.

but lets remember this, peter predominantly ministered to the Jews, not the gentiles that paul had change over,

therefore it is a blunder to think he{peter} is writing this letter to gentiles,,,,,,, duh! it is jews he is writing to.

paul was teaching that the law was dismantled and peter is telling jews what!!!!!!!!!!

some things hard to be understood, they persist in the law that the Lord nailed to the cross.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

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Why do you assume that you haven't?

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Time shock both you, what do you think your SS# IS?


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lets get this one thing clear right now. i do not go to a church.


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That's what you think:)....

church

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No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I know christians are not following the Law, that's the problem. ;) did you know that another term fort he Law is Holy Covenent? Daniel 11:28 & 30 so you are basically saying you are not in covenant when you say you are not in the Law. just sayin..

All christians quote Paul whne they seek to destroy the Law, becuase they do not understand the Law. Paul wrote to people that understood that Law, because the NEW testament was NOT around back then. crazy... I know. But UNLEARNED people twisted his words to their own destruction like you are doing now because you have no clue what he is saying in context.

" ...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2 peter 3:15

If you do not understand the front of the book, you will have NO bsasis for the back of the book. Here's Pauls definitions one more time:

Ma’asei Ha Torah = Works of the Law (additions of religous leaders)

Takanah & Gezeran = Decrees (additions of religous leaders)

Ma’aseh = Works (additions of religous leaders)


Halacha = Divine/G-d's Law (Torah) = the one we should Follow!!

Minhag = Tradition (additions of religous leaders)


WAKE UP!!! TIME IS SHORT!!!

Your pastor wispering sweet words of "Peace Peace" in your ear for a mere 10% WILL NOT be there at your judgement!!!
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


lets get this one thing clear right now. i do not go to a church.

i did try to go to a church for a very brief amount of time.

but it ended soon.

but lets remember this, peter predominantly ministered to the Jews, not the gentiles that paul had change over,

therefore it is a blunder to think he{peter} is writing this letter to gentiles,,,,,,, duh! it is jews he is writing to.

paul was teaching that the law was dismantled and peter is telling jews what!!!!!!!!!!

some things hard to be understood, they persist in the law that the Lord nailed to the cross.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Duely noted. I do not go to chruch either. but have lots of fellowship with followers of YHVH! :)

And the letters were predominantly to the Dispersia. The lost house of Israel. Called Gentiles, because the definition of Gentile = Out of Covenant. The Lost Sheep of Israel were out of covenant. They married other gods. they couold not come back, till now. :)

time for a meeting, wish I could grab you for a beer and talk to you face to face about all this! :) Unless you're like most christians that condem all alcohol (That's an Oral Law... made up by religious leaders!). Have a good one!
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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

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Why do you assume that you haven't?




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theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

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Why do you assume that you haven't?

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Time shock both you, what do you think your SS# IS?


wake up
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You first.


What was the mark of the first beast?....



4The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: (Dan 7)







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abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I know christians are not following the Law, that's the problem. ;) did you know that another term fort he Law is Holy Covenent? Daniel 11:28 & 30 so you are basically saying you are not in covenant when you say you are not in the Law. just sayin..

All christians quote Paul whne they seek to destroy the Law, becuase they do not understand the Law. Paul wrote to people that understood that Law, because the NEW testament was NOT around back then. crazy... I know. But UNLEARNED people twisted his words to their own destruction like you are doing now because you have no clue what he is saying in context.

" ...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2 peter 3:15

If you do not understand the front of the book, you will have NO bsasis for the back of the book. Here's Pauls definitions one more time:

Ma’asei Ha Torah = Works of the Law (additions of religous leaders)

Takanah & Gezeran = Decrees (additions of religous leaders)

Ma’aseh = Works (additions of religous leaders)


Halacha = Divine/G-d's Law (Torah) = the one we should Follow!!

Minhag = Tradition (additions of religous leaders)


WAKE UP!!! TIME IS SHORT!!!

Your pastor wispering sweet words of "Peace Peace" in your ear for a mere 10% WILL NOT be there at your judgement!!!
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


lets get this one thing clear right now. i do not go to a church.

i did try to go to a church for a very brief amount of time.

but it ended soon.

but lets remember this, peter predominantly ministered to the Jews, not the gentiles that paul had change over,

therefore it is a blunder to think he{peter} is writing this letter to gentiles,,,,,,, duh! it is jews he is writing to.

paul was teaching that the law was dismantled and peter is telling jews what!!!!!!!!!!

some things hard to be understood, they persist in the law that the Lord nailed to the cross.
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Duely noted. I do not go to chruch either. but have lots of fellowship with followers of YHVH! :)

And the letters were predominantly to the Dispersia. The lost house of Israel. Called Gentiles, because the definition of Gentile = Out of Covenant. The Lost Sheep of Israel were out of covenant. They married other gods. they couold not come back, till now. :)

time for a meeting, wish I could grab you for a beer and talk to you face to face about all this! :) Unless you're like most christians that condem all alcohol (That's an Oral Law... made up by religious leaders!). Have a good one!
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i dont condemn it, but i dont have a taste for it, or wine, etc

but i would have a coke :)
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

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Why do you assume that you haven't?




?
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theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





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unless your going to take the beasts number??????

 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Why do you assume that you haven't?




?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Why do you assume that you haven't?




?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


that is something yet to take place. it is physical in nature, for one you need it to buy and sell, and for another, they think they do God a favor by killing you.

if they dont see the mark, they will think your in rebellion to God most High.......

which tells you this simple thing.......

they believed the lie.

they followed the beast and did recieve his mark, cause they believed he was god, and that they was having both the Lords name and their gods name written upon them just like is mentioned in revelations..........


i keep telling everyone but no one listens,

a counterfeit christ..........
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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theres nop assumption on my part.....

i dont show my right hand or forehead to either buy or sell.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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You know you're taking that out of context, right? It says all shall take the mark or be unable to buy and sell... and just before that, all who won't worship the beast were killed...

You'd have a fit if anyone else did that, why is it okay for christians to do it??
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


that is something yet to take place.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




Here is why that does not make sense: (humble opinion)

There are four beasts in Dan 7.

To say that none of them have come and left their mark is 'short-sighted' (no offense intended)



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do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


that is something yet to take place.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




Here is why that does not make sense: (humble opinion)

There are four beasts in Dan 7.

To say that none of them have come and left their mark is 'short-sighted' (no offense intended)



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


it is neither short sighted nor far sighted, you see that which you were shown as do i.

your asking the wrong person, for i can not coax you to come to where i am, nor can you expect me to come where you are either.

you need ask the Lord, not me.

you think we are well into the seals???

i say they have yet to open....

you say the rapture is soon????

i say it will be further along.....

you look for his coming first?????

i say the first one is false.....
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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