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Is the Kundalini raising the same as being filled with the Holy Ghost?

 
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But your head is still attached?....





16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (Rev 13)


"All".





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do you buy or sell things due to a mark on your forehead or right hand????

i dont
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




All.




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


You know you're taking that out of context, right? It says all shall take the mark or be unable to buy and sell... and just before that, all who won't worship the beast were killed...

You'd have a fit if anyone else did that, why is it okay for christians to do it??
 Quoting: Sandi_T



no malice was intended:

15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
(Rev 13)



All still means all (if you still have your head)





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you say the rapture is soon????


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Nope-

no such thing.



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Like babies arguing about the right answer.

When Christ-Likeness is put on the back-burner, as usual...

To Baruch, how are you helping anyone or offering a better alternative with your tone? What about respect? Sensitivity? Accommodation? Empathy? No wonder you're being trampled, but I've been trampled plenty as well ;)

To the devout Christians, I understand that the message of modern Christians being part of the deception is unthinkable and nightmarish, but perhaps with a great maturity and sober perspective, you could take an honest and objective look at the religion, its actions and how in-line it has become with actual lived Christ-Likeness? Does God want you to be petty, belittled, while graveling in worship and wallowing in judgmentalism? Or does God want us to be equal, Christ-Like, treating others how we wish to be treated?

I feel it is so important to make a distinction between the Demi-Urge Archetype of Light and Darkness of this particular universe, and the All-Loving First Creator of unconditional love and forgiveness of ALL the universes, no wrath, no jealousy, no place for darkness period, while accepting and allowing for the free-will of all children.

We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
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you say the rapture is soon????


 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Nope-

no such thing.



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then you think its almost over???? the 7 years have nearly expired???

thats why there are question marks,,,,

it means i am asking, not accusing :)
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Like babies arguing about the right answer.



We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
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Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.





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see, to my mind, both pre-tribbers and post-tribbers are in danger......

the pre trib crowd wants to believe so much......

and the post trib wants to believe its the end and beginning of the 7 years.......

but the first one is the false christ.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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you do know christianity mirrors catholics almost exactly? Just about all major religions came from catholics and their hellenistic sun god worship that practice Lawlessness. You can tahnk CONstantine for the Strong Delution. It has produced: Catholics, Islam, Mormans, and last but not least, over 38,000 denominations of christianity! hmmmmm... What did they do before CONstantine....

CONstantine Creed:

“I renounce all customs, rites, legalisms, unleavened breads and sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, and all the other feasts of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspirations, purifications, sanctifications, and propitiations, and fasts and new moons, and Sabbaths, and superstitions, and hymns and chants, and observances and synagogues. absolutely everything Jewish, every Law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with Jews, or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of Cain and the leprosy of Gehazi cleave to me, as well as the legal punishments to which I acknowledge myself liable. And may I be an
anathema in the world to come, and may my soul be set down with Satan and the devils.

Furthermore, any follower of the “Jewish Messiah” who wished to join this “holy community” was compelled to adopt a different set of rules and customs. Subsequently special creeds were drafted, to which the Christian would have to swear such as:

“1 accept all customs, rites, legalism, and feasts of the Romans, sacrifices. Prayers, purifications with water, sanctifications by Pontificus Maxmus (high priests of Rome), propitiations, and feasts, and the New Sabbath “So! dei” (day of the Sun, ), all new chants and observances, and all the foods and drinks of the Romans. In other words, I absolutely accept everything Roman, every new law, rite and custom, of Rome, and the New Roman Religion.”

Here is your daddy christians!! He directly went against those following the Messiah nad H-s Ways.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


the apostles knew this......

study and show thyself approved.

work out your own salvation with great fear and trembling.....

Natsarim, the watchers.....

the first sect.

but we are still not under the law,

thats why in daniel it says "He would think to change times and laws......"
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Gideon! Preaching the Gospel? Hard. I am impressed. Blessings.

Tribe is also correct from the very beginning the truth faith was being lost to politicians and kings with worldly desires of earthly conquest prompted by satan yet the Gospel still stands. We are saved by grace through faith and it is not of ourselves but the gift of God. Not of works lest any boast. For no flesh will glory in the presence of God.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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Like babies arguing about the right answer.

When Christ-Likeness is put on the back-burner, as usual...

To Baruch, how are you helping anyone or offering a better alternative with your tone? What about respect? Sensitivity? Accommodation? Empathy? No wonder you're being trampled, but I've been trampled plenty as well ;)

To the devout Christians, I understand that the message of modern Christians being part of the deception is unthinkable and nightmarish, but perhaps with a great maturity and sober perspective, you could take an honest and objective look at the religion, its actions and how in-line it has become with actual lived Christ-Likeness? Does God want you to be petty, belittled, while graveling in worship and wallowing in judgmentalism? Or does God want us to be equal, Christ-Like, treating others how we wish to be treated?

I feel it is so important to make a distinction between the Demi-Urge Archetype of Light and Darkness of this particular universe, and the All-Loving First Creator of unconditional love and forgiveness of ALL the universes, no wrath, no jealousy, no place for darkness period, while accepting and allowing for the free-will of all children.

We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
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i can not speak for anyone else, but i have nothing against anyone ive been talking to. they are excellent people in their own right.

we are simply comparing notes, and in some cases wit and understanding......

nothing more, why is this evil to some???
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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you say the rapture is soon????


 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Nope-

no such thing.



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then you think its almost over???? the 7 years have nearly expired???

thats why there are question marks,,,,

it means i am asking, not accusing :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



No offense has been taken- as mentioned earlier you have been good sport.

To answer your question:

From today until the beginning of the tribulation: 409 days
From today until the end of the tribulation: 454 days

12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. (Dan 12)





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keep reading the thread barush, i think i have grown maybe a little since the last we met......

but only a wee bit.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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you say the rapture is soon????


 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Nope-

no such thing.



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


then you think its almost over???? the 7 years have nearly expired???

thats why there are question marks,,,,

it means i am asking, not accusing :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



No offense has been taken- as mentioned earlier you have been good sport.

To answer your question:

From today until the beginning of the tribulation: 409 days
From today until the end of the tribulation: 454 days

12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. (Dan 12)





!!
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


i know it says, "do not tempt the Lord your God.......

but if the Lord shows up first, i'll most likely be put to death and maybe resurrected at the great white throne.....

cause to my understanding, he isnt suppose to be here first at all.......

i hope im not in that position..... but i can see how psychologically it would work to the advantage of the beast as well......
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Like babies arguing about the right answer.



We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
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Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.





:)
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I hope that's clever sarcasm, otherwise that's incredibly snide and one-sided.
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Nope-

no such thing.



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then you think its almost over???? the 7 years have nearly expired???

thats why there are question marks,,,,

it means i am asking, not accusing :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



No offense has been taken- as mentioned earlier you have been good sport.

To answer your question:

From today until the beginning of the tribulation: 409 days
From today until the end of the tribulation: 454 days

12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. (Dan 12)





!!
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cause to my understanding, he isnt suppose to be here first at all.......


 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




We agree.





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Like babies arguing about the right answer.



We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
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Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.





:)
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I hope that's clever sarcasm, otherwise that's incredibly snide and one-sided.
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Are you sure it wasn't 'childish'?



;)
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then you think its almost over???? the 7 years have nearly expired???

thats why there are question marks,,,,

it means i am asking, not accusing :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



No offense has been taken- as mentioned earlier you have been good sport.

To answer your question:

From today until the beginning of the tribulation: 409 days
From today until the end of the tribulation: 454 days

12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. (Dan 12)





!!
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051






cause to my understanding, he isnt suppose to be here first at all.......


 Quoting: Sword0fGideon




We agree.





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then wonderful! then how we arrized at the same conclusion is of little import. all that matters was the same conclusion.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Like babies arguing about the right answer.



We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278763




Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.





:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


I hope that's clever sarcasm, otherwise that's incredibly snide and one-sided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278763




Are you sure it wasn't 'childish'?



;)
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some might even go so far as funny nanni2
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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the apostles knew this......

study and show thyself approved.

work out your own salvation with great fear and trembling.....

Natsarim, the watchers.....

the first sect.

but we are still not under the law,

thats why in daniel it says "He would think to change times and laws......"
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, we were freed from marrying another god (which is what Israel did, Read Hosea) Once you divorce your first husband and marry another, you can never come back. It's an abomination. (Deut. 24:1-5) SO, YHVH could NEVER have Israel come backto H-m unless HE found a way around this Law. IF your prior husband dies, you are FREE from the Law of the prior Husband. Thus the Messiah making the covenent for Abraham while he slept was able to Fullfill this part of The Law so Israel and anyone else could come back to H-m even though they deserve death. (Read Romans 7)

"Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before YHVH:" Deut 24

Romans 7

"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband. So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

...

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

...

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."

If you decide to GO BACK to the covenent (Repent), you HAVE to strive to follow to Torah.

Are you under the Delusion that the Messiah was a sinner (breaker of Torah) like wildhoney says too?
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


abraham was christian as was his wife sarah.

its apparent enoch was christian, for God took him.

moses was saved by faith, christian.

perhaps they was in the law, but its by faith they are saved, and not just any faith, but faith in the Coming of the messiah...

israel is important as a nation, God said it would be and it is.

out of that there is a remnant, and soon enough they will be unblinded, when the number of the gentiles are fulfilled.

Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

the christians are under grace, because by the law they are dead.

you can not be justified by the law, sure you can try but these are works.

works are a product of faith, works do not bring about faith.

the pharisee and scribes should have taugh everyone that.

we are the temple, not a building. and all the law is merely a shadow of things to come.

Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication."
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Gideon! Preaching the Gospel? Hard. I am impressed. Blessings.

Tribe is also correct from the very beginning the truth faith was being lost to politicians and kings with worldly desires of earthly conquest prompted by satan yet the Gospel still stands. We are saved by grace through faith and it is not of ourselves but the gift of God. Not of works lest any boast. For no flesh will glory in the presence of God.
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


Boast? only if you ring your bell..you can do works and keep that between yourself and God..we have to give fruit..good fruit..otherwise ..as the fig tree..of what good are we?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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Is it so difficult to knock down walls that separate us and love eachother above our differences?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I haved met so many people of all religions..I get on well with all of them really..because I dont try to change them even though I dont agree..they all seem to have one thing in common..they think they are right and everyone else is wrong..

i find this fascinating

they all think they and only they are going to be saved...they are right everyone else wrong

they arent interesting in reaching out and loving despite the differences..they like maybe love me..because I respect their point of view..they pity me for being catholic and try to save me :) how sweet of them lol blush
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Boast? only if you ring your bell..you can do works and keep that between yourself and God..we have to give fruit..good fruit..otherwise ..as the fig tree..of what good are we?
 Quoting: wildhoney


i didnt think of it as a boast, i didnt boast, all i did was say i grew up a little......

barush didnt boast, boasting is usually of ones self, not others.

when you boast of others, its usually called a compliment.....

his compliment to me i think was,

wow, your growing....

is that evil????
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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I haved met so many people of all religions..I get on well with all of them really..because I dont try to change them even though I dont agree..they all seem to have one thing in common..they think they are right and everyone else is wrong..

i find this fascinating

they all think they and only they are going to be saved...they are right everyone else wrong

they arent interesting in reaching out and loving despite the differences..they like maybe love me..because I respect their point of view..they pity me for being catholic and try to save me :) how sweet of them lol blush
 Quoting: wildhoney


cant we just love eachother without trying to make everyone think like us?

its obvious we arent going to achieve this ever..so why bother? why not just love eachother as brothers and sisters created by one God?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I haved met so many people of all religions..I get on well with all of them really..because I dont try to change them even though I dont agree..they all seem to have one thing in common..they think they are right and everyone else is wrong..

i find this fascinating

they all think they and only they are going to be saved...they are right everyone else wrong

they arent interesting in reaching out and loving despite the differences..they like maybe love me..because I respect their point of view..they pity me for being catholic and try to save me :) how sweet of them lol blush
 Quoting: wildhoney


lol! and how are you any different???

the mother church??? protestants fell away????

pot calls kettle black.....

why not dump your church and join the protestants????

but that would be unfair, wouldnt it.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Boast? only if you ring your bell..you can do works and keep that between yourself and God..we have to give fruit..good fruit..otherwise ..as the fig tree..of what good are we?
 Quoting: wildhoney


i didnt think of it as a boast, i didnt boast, all i did was say i grew up a little......

barush didnt boast, boasting is usually of ones self, not others.

when you boast of others, its usually called a compliment.....

his compliment to me i think was,

wow, your growing....

is that evil????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


not you hf

op said we arent supposed to be saved through works lest we boast :)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I haved met so many people of all religions..I get on well with all of them really..because I dont try to change them even though I dont agree..they all seem to have one thing in common..they think they are right and everyone else is wrong..

i find this fascinating

they all think they and only they are going to be saved...they are right everyone else wrong

they arent interesting in reaching out and loving despite the differences..they like maybe love me..because I respect their point of view..they pity me for being catholic and try to save me :) how sweet of them lol blush
 Quoting: wildhoney


lol! and how are you any different???

the mother church??? protestants fell away????

pot calls kettle black.....

why not dump your church and join the protestants????

but that would be unfair, wouldnt it.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I have so many friends amongst protestants..I dont see them as protestants..I see them simply as dear friends..

I respect peoples views.. :) what matters to me is the love they feel in their heart for others..thats one thing in common the people I consider friends have..they are good people..thats the common denominator and all that matters to me
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I believe the Holy spirit is always identified by the gift of speaking in tounges. It seems like alot of people are becoming very very spiritual these days. I for one have found myself questioning everything. I have been on this double mind ride for quite some time now. I always end up back on my Knee's saying Jesus please.
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Boast? only if you ring your bell..you can do works and keep that between yourself and God..we have to give fruit..good fruit..otherwise ..as the fig tree..of what good are we?
 Quoting: wildhoney


i didnt think of it as a boast, i didnt boast, all i did was say i grew up a little......

barush didnt boast, boasting is usually of ones self, not others.

when you boast of others, its usually called a compliment.....

his compliment to me i think was,

wow, your growing....

is that evil????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


not you hf

op said we arent supposed to be saved through works lest we boast :)
 Quoting: wildhoney


i am sure if the Lord went through everything we all have said today, we would have alot to answer for.......

but there is one thing certain, we are written down in his book of rememberance........
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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I believe the Holy spirit is always identified by the gift of speaking in tounges. It seems like alot of people are becoming very very spiritual these days. I for one have found myself questioning everything. I have been on this double mind ride for quite some time now. I always end up back on my Knee's saying Jesus please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437712


the best gift is love.......

for God is love.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Boast? only if you ring your bell..you can do works and keep that between yourself and God..we have to give fruit..good fruit..otherwise ..as the fig tree..of what good are we?
 Quoting: wildhoney


i didnt think of it as a boast, i didnt boast, all i did was say i grew up a little......

barush didnt boast, boasting is usually of ones self, not others.

when you boast of others, its usually called a compliment.....

his compliment to me i think was,

wow, your growing....

is that evil????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


not you hf

op said we arent supposed to be saved through works lest we boast :)
 Quoting: wildhoney


i am sure if the Lord went through everything we all have said today, we would have alot to answer for.......

but there is one thing certain, we are written down in his book of rememberance........
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


so true..

every day is a battle to do better..to be better..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I believe the Holy spirit is always identified by the gift of speaking in tounges. It seems like alot of people are becoming very very spiritual these days. I for one have found myself questioning everything. I have been on this double mind ride for quite some time now. I always end up back on my Knee's saying Jesus please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437712


the best gift is love.......

for God is love.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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Ah ha, I has pictures!

This was for a "thank you" to the teachers at my daughter's Montessori school. It's supposed to capture the beauty of working with kids (the top of the cake and the pretty parts) along with the inherent entropy that creeps in with kids (the ACME label, as one might remember from Road Runner and Coyote) and the melted crayons left in the sun too long (I made them that way, I didn't leave them in the sun :p).

Personally, I think the edge of the book looks amazing. It's a bit hard to see here, but it REALLY looked like the edge of pages!

teachercake1
teachercake2
teachercake3
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Wow, that is gorgeous. Ever thought of trying for the Food Network Challenge cake shows? lol
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

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