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Is the Kundalini raising the same as being filled with the Holy Ghost?

 
Baruch HaShem (OP)

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Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets through revelation of the name of God.
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Wrong!

Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets by taking away the sins of His elect ones. It has nothing to do about the name of God, but what God did on the cross.

Romans 3:21-22 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe.

How is the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus work to bring righteousness anyway?

The answer is very simple actually, it is because Jesus took away ALL my sins forever, and in the absence of sin the Law is fulfilled.

So, Here is a question:

If a person were completely sin free in their life (because Jesus washed away the sins), would the righteousness or holiness that the Law of God requires be fulfilled, would we be justified by faith?

The answer is yes, because in the absence of sin the law is fulfilled!

So...if Jesus took away all of my sins after repentance and giving my life to Him, and I am blameless before God and sin free, do I fulfill the righteousness or holiness that the law of God requires?

The answer is yes; I fulfill the righteousness that the law of God requires because I have no sin in Jesus...because Jesus took and washed away my sins and nailed them to the cross!

..I am therefore sin free before God and fulfill the righteousness that the law God requires. This is what is meant by the righteousness by faith and NOT by works!!!

So then the righteousness that the Law of God requires, is fulfilled in every single person who comes to Christ Jesus. This is what it means that Christ is the end of the law and that He fulfilled the law. This is the righteousness which is by faith, and not by the works of the Law of God.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

How is the Law established?

The Law is established because there is no more sin to deal with, because Jesus took the sin away, and in the absence of sin the Law is Fulfilled, ...yes it is established! This is the righteousness that is by faith, and not by the works of the Law.


Romans 5: 1-2 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.


The very reason that Christ came into the world was so that He could free us from sin and the consequences of sin, and more then that, so that we could become a new creation in Christ Jesus. And in the absence of sin, which is through the cross of Christ, the Law is fulfilled.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (King James Version)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets through revelation of the name of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1365886


Wrong!

Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets by taking away the sins of His elect ones. It has nothing to do about the name of God, but what God did on the cross.
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Amen! Amen! Amen!

Now that is the truth. Now if a person have understanding faith in what you preached it will be as they believed and heard. If this is just a neat philosophic/ religious dogma to them that hear they trample on the blood of the cross and it will avail them nothing.

Surely what you preached is true and also the truth of what you have preached reveals the character of our God. This reveals his holy name. this reveals why God is worthy of our praise and worship along with his Son. Not just because he is God and powerful and can smite us but that he is Good and Caring and grants us the gift of eternal life and holiness. For God in so much as God can through his only beghotten Son became intimately involved in our human condition and stepped outside of the veil of eternity and garbed himself in the tabernacle of flesh and did a perfect and awesome work and powerful even a work of divine love..... going to the cross and taking upon all of our sins and washing them away with the blood of his Son.

God suffered as much as God can through his Son. So that we might have eternal life in his name. Do you really believe that this work of God is outside of his Name. Outside of his Charactor. Outside of his revelation of who He is. No. It is at the heart of it and glorifies his Name. It reveals it. It glorifies who God is.

In the abstract a perfect name is a perfect description of that which is named. Give up thinking that it is merely some sound or idea about it. God's name is Meaning. It reveal who he is. It is the word of God and God's expression into this world. In this way Jesus came in the Name of the "God that is with us" and the "God that saves." the meaning of the name "Jesus" is "Yahweh delivers (rescues) saves us." How can this meaning not be significant? How can not who God is matters?

We are not in disagreement.( I hope my tone is ok.)

Thank you for you contribution. It really added to the discourse and was spot on in regards to the superiorty of the work of God through Christ over the righteousness that men attempt through following the law. But the key is dealing with sin in actuality and not just thinking "my sins are covered." This means transformation and becoming a new creature in Christ and preaching that we can be born again, and that the grace of God which is the power of God working in us in the name of Jesus is effectual to remake us into the image of Jesus himself by faith not by works. I believe in not only justification by faith but sanctification and glorification are all apart of the salvation package and is likewise by faith. (The meek will believe and rejoice the proud will not and having begun in the spirit they will try to perfect themselves in the flesh.) I stand on the good news right now. It is time for some to believe the Gospel. Now is the accepted time. Today is the time of salvation. Believe upon the name of Jesus Christ (his work and his Character) and you will be transformed and born again (you that listen in) you will be saved.

Say this as a point of contact only. (Faith in the Gospel that you have heard is only required.) "Jesus I believe in the testimony of your prophets and preachers. Transform me through thy Holy Spirit. Wash my sins through thy blood. Cleanse me of all unrighteousness. Make me new in your name. Lead me and guide me into all truth. Reveal to me God's holy name."

That is sufficient.

Now we must understand the Gospel only works through understanding faith. Not blind faith which doesn't understand that this is Truth and no lie and that the Gospel make perfect spiritual sense. Sometimes we need to ponder on it. (We are doing that here.) Then ponder on it. Read the new testament.. This is the power of what Anonymous Coward 1365886 have preached. We must repent (change our thinking and our minds) and truly believe in the goodness of God through Christ. If we truly believe the blood of the cross will take away our sins for it has the full power and authority of the Supreme and Almighty God's name behind it and we will surely through this authority and power be a new creature even the workmanship of God created unto godly and good works. We will be born anew. We will be and not just act. We will be the righteousness of God through Christ.

Can you not see that there can not be any greater Good News (Gospel) then this? This is why the world is being Judged because God has done the uttermost to bless us. He has clearly revealed his Name through Christ and the world rejects the testimony about His Name ie who God is and his Character in His Son. There is no greater virtue then God's Love. I challenge any to deny this from all human experience and history.. There is no greater Love expressed in all human mythology, religion, imagination,art, literature or culture then that God would step from behind the veil of eternity and as much as infinite God could he emptied Himself into a fleshly tabernacle to offer Himself up through his only begotten Son, even Jesus Christ, to suffer and die as a sacrifice to take away every penalty of sin to those who merely believe that God is that Good.

This is the work of God. God's work is perfect and greater then any labor of man. We enter into God's work merely by faith. Understanding faith is not a work. It is merely believing in the Good News and God does the work in us and we become his workmanship, His new creature and creation in fellowship with the chief gift of grace the Holy Spirit the seal of God's approval. This is sure. Let God be true and every man a liar. God's truth, God's word, God's gospel, God's good news will not come back to him void but will prosper in the thing that it is sent. there is no surer foundation. No surer Rock to stand upon. Heed the word of God and through an understanding faith (a Faith filled with understanding of the spiritual sense of the Gospel) trust in Him and the Jesus who He has sent and it will been done unto you as it is written......

[At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matthew 11:25-30


In Hebrews chapter 4 it says..

9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10For he that is entered into his (God's) rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11Let us labour (to understand and believe) therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

It is clear and makes perfect sense. Now heed the word of God. Come out of the wrath to come! Let is us enter in to God's rest. (the Sabbath) through our faith in Jesus Christ and his work and grace. The Sabbath is the rest of God and Christ the Lord of the Sabbath. Let us enter into that holy rest even the rest from all our works.

The proud will not accept this good news of the Sabbath of the Lord, the rest of God even the rest from all of our works because they want their own works to matter so that they can secretly boast in themselves about how great and righteous they are. Listen to what Paul have said about this.

26Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. 1-Corinthian 1

Is the will of God and the way which is Christ's not clear?

Note how Jesus above said that He was meek and lowly in heart (and he is God) and for us to learn of him (know him through his inner state and attitude.). This makes sense for.......Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. James4:6

Jesus wasn't a proud man and puffed up. When so one called him good he said,There is none good except God"

Do you not see it is pride that keeps us wanting to prove ourselves righteous through our own works and the Devils "virtues" are pride and falsehood? Our own works cannot compare to the work of God only through grace can just men be perfected and even sinners saved.


Amen?

Last Edited by Baruch HaShem on 06/22/2011 09:08 PM
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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So pretty!!! I love the teacup!
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Thank you! hf
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Is that napkin edible too? What is it made out of?
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Yes, it's made out of fondant. :) It's all edible, except the turntable and the cardboard and the lollipop sticks. Mostly made of cake, fondant, and/or rice krispies treats. I used modeling chocolate on the book cake, though, for the apple and crayons.

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No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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(Continuing from my last post.)

The above exposition is why every other religions/philosophies/wisdom traditions are false and of the Devil and can not save and the only way to God is through the work of God even the Cross of Christ Jesus for it is greater than all other works. This is what Jesus meant by saying that "he is the way the truth and the life and none come to the Father except through him." This is true. Every other way is through human effort and works. Only the good news of the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world is the work of God and thereby effectual and perfect to those that understands it and believe.

Satan comes as an Angel of Light in many ways and even promoting seemly good works. Truly he is a fan of Man and wants men to exalt himself but in due time God shall exalt the meek who will inherited this earth..

What gift do you have that wasn't given to you through God and why do you act as if it was given to you of yourself and glory in how great and righteous you are! Humility is not a lie it is the truth. Why would God who is truth require of you a lie? Pride in any form is the lie yet it is considered a virtue in this world along with being a clever manager of falsehoods for personal gain. The devil is both full of pride and the father of lies. Do you walk in his name? His name is of the world that passes away and is not the way of those bound for eternity. Such are corruptible fruit of a corruptible tree but the work of God through Jesus is the ax at the very root of it. Let us not be proud but seek meekness and faith.

There is some that will know these truths and testify/witness of these with great power in the last days. They will prove the will of God in front of the whole world and defeat the Devil and overcome the Babylonian system through the blood of the Lamb of God and the word of their testimony. They will at the behest of God not defend themselves when their testimony is over and will turn the other cheek and be killed and after three days they will make their final and ultimate witness in the name of Jesus Christ they will be raised from the dead before the whole world! (Wonder how do i know this?)

They will be saying all the things that I am saying and pointing to the Gospel that the proud despise until the mystery of God is finished.

Many of you live for and worship idols and behind every idol there is an unclean spirit. You are surrounded by them and all of them more glorious to you then the word of God. You can not love God and hate His word. Love of the world and the things there of is enmity toward God. Look at what Satan has brought on to this thread. People will sale their souls and worship colored sweet bread. Who yearns for the bread of life? Who yearns for the water that will Quench every thirst?

If there are any there with ears to hear then heed.

Again the Gospel have been preached against all nay-sayers and hearts touched by the spirit of God and the faithful have been built up. And devils tremble for they know their time is short.

Good bless you Gideon you are growing strong in the Lord.

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At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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(Continuing from my last post.)

The above exposition is why every other religion/philosophy/wisdom tradition is false and of the Devil and can not save and the only way is through the work of God even the Cross of Christ Jesus. This is what Jesus meant by saying that "he is the way the truth and the life and none come to the Father except through him." This is true. Every other way is through human effort and works. Only the good news of the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world is the work of God and thereby effectual and perfect to those that understands it and believe.

Satan comes as an Angel of Light in many ways and even promoting seemly good works. Truly he is a fan of Man and wants men to exalt himself but in due time God shall exalt the meek who will inherited this earth..

What gift do you have that wasn't given to you through God and why do you act as if it was given to you of yourself and glory in how great and righteous you are! Humility is not a lie it is the truth. Why would God who is truth require of you a lie? Pride in any form is the lie yet it is considered a virtue in this world along with being a clever manager of falsehoods for personal gain. The devil is both full of pride and a the father of lies. Do you walk in his name. His name is of the world that passes away and is not the way of those bound for eternity. Such are corruptible fruit of a corruptible tree but the work of God through Jesus is the ax at the very root of it. Let us not be proud but seek meekness.

There is some that will know these truths and testify/witness of these with great power in the last days. They will prove the will of God in front of the whole world and defeat the Devil and overcome the Babylonian system through the blood of the Lamb of God and the word of their testimony. They will at the behest of God not defend themselves when their testimony is over and will turn the other cheek and be killed and after three days they will make their final and ultimate witness in the name of Jesus Christ they will be raised from the dead before the whole world! (I wonder how do i know this?)

They will be saying all the things that I am saying and pointing to the Gospel that the proud despise until the mystery of God is finished.

Many of you live for and worship idols and behind every idol there is an unclean spirit. You are surrounded by them and all of them more glorious to you then the word of God. You can not love God and hate His word. Love of the world and the things there of is enmity toward God. Look at what Satan has brought on to this thread. People will sale their souls and worship colored sweet bread. Who yearns for the bread of life? Who yearns for the water that will Quench every thirst?

If there are any there with ears to hear then heed.

I am finished here for now. Again the Gospel have been preached against all nay-sayers and hearts touched by the spirit of God and the faithful have been built up. And devils tremble for they know their time is short.

Good bless you Gideon you are growing strong in the Lord.
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to God be the Glory.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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to God be the Glory.
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Verily that is true.

Amen
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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and no, the kundalini thing is false
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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and no, the kundalini thing is false
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yes it is. Hi, Sword

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and no, the kundalini thing is false
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yes it is. Hi, Sword

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Amen
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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hello mamasue......
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Pride speaks deceit and Humility no guile..
The Proud says he know this and he knows that, but the Humble merely sees the truth and trusts in it...

In the Household of Humility lives Wisdom and Understanding and all their wealth. Knowledge too is there and as a butler he serves. Those that trust in their own selves will faint by the wayside. The meek will mount up upon power and standing immovable in grace they inherit the earth.

-Baruch HaShem
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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Pride speaks deceit and Humility no guile..
The Proud says he know this and he knows that, but the Humble merely sees the truth and trusts in it...

In the Household of Humility lives Wisdom and Understanding and all their wealth. Knowledge too is there and as a butler he serves. Those that trust in their own selves will faint by the wayside. The meek will mount up upon power and standing immovable in grace they inherit the earth.

-Baruch HaShem
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slow night?
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Pride speaks deceit and Humility no guile..
The Proud says he know this and he knows that, but the Humble merely sees the truth and trusts in it...

In the Household of Humility lives Wisdom and Understanding and all their wealth. Knowledge too is there and as a butler he serves. Those that trust in their own selves will faint by the wayside. The meek will mount up upon power and standing immovable in grace they inherit the earth.

-Baruch HaShem
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slow night?
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The silence is deafening.

I believe that the Holy Spirit has answered a lot of people's question about the Gospel. A clear exposition has been made. (See my posts above.) A clear case of the superiority of the Blood of the Cross of Christ the awesome Work of God has been laid out and many are seeing that believers who are not tares (weeds looking like wheat) that understand the spiritual sense of the work of God finds rest from their works through God's grace. They are ushered into the eternal Sabbath Day of the Lord. The Jewish sabbath being a symbol of the cessation of work that the Lord sponsors and allows, the day of rest and intimate fellowship with God.

I think a challenge has gone forth "Show me a greater love this this." In human affairs there is no greater love than a person to lay down his life for others with purpose and meaning for them to gain great benefit. The scripture is clear about this. Jesus says that there is no greater love than for a man to lay down his life for his friends and that God is calling us his friends. He is saying if you look at your human affairs there is no greater love than this kind of sacrifice, so now behold the greatest love of all, now while we are yet sinners God (in so much as infinite God can) manifests himself through his Son and now Christ dies for the ungodly.

There is not greater love in all of human history and imagination and myth than this... for God to step out from behind of the veil of eternity and for him to empty himself into flesh (as much as the infinite God could) he made himself finite and garbed himself in flesh and became He who is called the only begotten Son of God and this Son who is named Jesus was incarnated to suffer and to die to take away every penalty of sin that has separated us from the presence of God. Verily he was the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. And the proud of this world who has that seed of Satan (pride) and the haters of God who loves this world and the things thereof more than God and who are idolators (loving the creation more than loving the Creator) and those that want to establish their own righteousness yearning to boast in the very face of God, it is these that spiritually spits on he that God has sent and trample underfoot the blood of Christ and calls his Cross an unholy thing. (Not to mention the lukewarm Christians (who thinks they are saved) that worships a false Christ call the Jesus Christ of Mammon and who thinks they are rich and in need of nothing (but they are poor and naked) having not purchased true gold from God, having not put on Christ who is also the true gold of God.

No wonder after long suffering the wrath of God comes? For so many have purposed in their hearts that they hate the true God and his free gift of his Son and that God will not be their God or their savior and with their sins piling up they destroy the earth having taken the side of the God's adversary.

No it is not a slow night or day but many that have heard the testimony here are now trying to defend themselves from the truth of God found in the Gospel. The spiritual sense is compelling but their hearts are not right before God and they do not want to abandon their idols they have set up in their hearts. To reject God they seek a convincing lie to believe so that they might go blissfully back to their fornication with spirits of darkness and evil with all vileness and falsehood..

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At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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not much has changed really, but then again alot has.

those who have faith and believe are becoming firmer in their faiths.

those who proclaim faith but dont seem to have any seemed to be more disillusioned

and those who didnt have faith are either finding faith, some true, others disillusioned and yet others more lost.

if the elenin stuff is true, then you might have that which separated the wheat from the tares......

unfortunately, many, if elenin is real, will grab ahold of the first "savior" that walks by......

and we both should know, the first one is false.....
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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not much has changed really, but then again alot has.

those who have faith and believe are becoming firmer in their faiths.

those who proclaim faith but dont seem to have any seemed to be more disillusioned

and those who didnt have faith are either finding faith, some true, others disillusioned and yet others more lost.

if the elenin stuff is true, then you might have that which separated the wheat from the tares......

unfortunately, many, if elenin is real, will grab ahold of the first "savior" that walks by......

and we both should know, the first one is false.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I have not received any confirmation from the Lord on Elenin. The is a group online that I watch and listen to that have their ideas about it. Basically they say that they believe that the Elenin is a sign in the heavens that the tribulation period is about to start. They like I, believe that the pre-trib rapture is a bunch of hooey. The lord will use the tribulation period to purify his Bride. (She really do need to take a bath.) But because of all the perfume she puts on she doesn't know it. Maybe God will show me the truth about Elenin. If I need that information I will be surely given it.

So many seem confused about God's will for them both those in and out of the "church." God's will is that we receive the seed of the word of God which is sown to us and that we cultivate that seed to fruition. The fruit of this process is none other the fruit of the Spirit which is Christ in us the hope of Glory. This manifests Christ's mind ie his Character and thoughts in us and we become by measure the new creation called the sons of God. Pride hates this process along with those that love this world. Pride allows satan to snatch up the seed and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the seed in others and it is unfruitful.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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The lord will use the tribulation period to purify his Bride. (She really do need to take a bath.)
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


I find this a fascinating view of yours.

Are you suggesting that the blood of Christ is not enough to cleanse his bride?

That she needs more cleansing? More purifying?

Indeed, there were 10 virgins waiting for their husband.

But they all slumbered. Not 5 of them... All of them slumbered. Both the wise and the foolish.

But 5 were taken and 5 remained.

May we be found wise before the bridegroom.

Peace and blessing to you,
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not much has changed really, but then again alot has.

those who have faith and believe are becoming firmer in their faiths.

those who proclaim faith but dont seem to have any seemed to be more disillusioned

and those who didnt have faith are either finding faith, some true, others disillusioned and yet others more lost.

if the elenin stuff is true, then you might have that which separated the wheat from the tares......

unfortunately, many, if elenin is real, will grab ahold of the first "savior" that walks by......


and we both should know, the first one is false.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


If Elenin causes a shift in the axis of the Earth like some doom-sayers predict this could cause the "Great Quake" of Revelations 6:11 Which could begin the countdown to the second coming of Christ and between the two the 3 and 1/2 year ministry of the two witnesses (be it a corporate body of witnesses or a one team of two men) would begin.

I have found the below interesting in relation to Elenin.

Announcing the Wrath of the Lamb

The coming Great Earthquake, not one, not two, but six -- yes six -- but for now we are concerned with the "Great Quake" mentioned in Revelation 6:12. The 6th Seal is opened and the first thing mentioned is a "great quake" and a time of terror as never seen since the "great flood" -- a world wide event. When this "quake" shakes th is world it will reel on its axis, mountains will literally be moved and Islands displaced from their original foundations all around the world.
The earth will shudder beneath the depths of the waters. Coastal areas will be ravaged by anger oceans and seas and survivors will hide in under ground burrows and caves crying for a quick death thinking the world is literally coming to an end. But no, this is not the end it is the announcement of the of the wrath -- "Wrath of the Lamb"
This is not the second coming, no, it is the announcement of "His Wrath" (some translations have their wrath, NIV, ESV, etc.) -- this is only the beginning to correcting mankind. One thing is certain, this will happen before the return of our Savior -- The Great Quake announcing His Wrath before His coming. This is really important, to understand this great event, this literal shaking of the earth is not symbolic and it is an event announcing the "wrath" the anger of our Savior. This event will uncover the misguided and false preachers and teacher of the Rapture doctrine -- those teaching the fear of an Imminent return (He can come at any minute?) attempting to deceive you into a false sense of security and comfort.
The problem, of course, is when this happens it will not matter, a "told you so" moment will mean nothing. You need to be prepared for this event, mentally and especially spiritually. This coming is not the about the Imminent coming of our Savior but the Imminent coming of the Wrath of the Lamb -- this will precede His coming, and it may be by several years in advance, which will lead once faithful believers in the Rapture to becoming the "scoffers" of the "end-days".
(Rev 6:16) They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! (NIV)
(Rev 6:17) For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?" (NIV)

(2Pe 3:3-4) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. (KJV)


This is from Dan Baxley's fine website on things endtimey

[link to www.yahshuaservant.com]
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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but i dont think it will be the wrath of the lamb quake.

i think someone means to use that as an illusion in order to promote themselves as a christ.......

remember, mens hearts would fail them because of that which was coming upon the earth, paraphrasing.

a deception is woven, so great the deception, that the very elect would believe it, if possible......

if you percieve the seals being opened, then you will percieve the one coming as a christ/messiah. for miracles will abound!

and as i continue down this road i see myself getting further and further from everyone else with a great expanse separating me from them.

the first one is a false christ.

the tribulation hasnt begun.

it will seem as if it has happened, and they will be able to speak with great authority that everyone misinterpreted the scriptures, but it is not yet.

everyone will come under a great spirit of doubt and uncertainty, but they will follow. because the illusion is great and the arguement is well thought out.

those who refuse to believe will be considered rebellious to the Lord, and they will kill them thinking they do God a favor.

they will willingly be marked, because in revelations our Lord says he will write upon us his name and the Fathers name, and that we would be given a name only we shall know, (paraphrasing again)

barush?.......

we are in deep crap here!!!

if we should be wrong, then its rebellion to resist

if we are right and resist, we are dead. but are raised back up.

provided we are correct.

if everyone thinks its the Lord, then everyone will hand you over to the authorities to be killed.

even family members.

maybe elenin isnt the straw that breaks the camels back......

but it could be.

so, how strong is your faith in understanding the bible. cause its upon that we will haft to navigate by.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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The lord will use the tribulation period to purify his Bride. (She really do need to take a bath.)
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


I find this a fascinating view of yours.

Are you suggesting that the blood of Christ is not enough to cleanse his bride?

That she needs more cleansing? More purifying?

Indeed, there were 10 virgins waiting for their husband.

But they all slumbered. Not 5 of them... All of them slumbered. Both the wise and the foolish.

But 5 were taken and 5 remained.

May we be found wise before the bridegroom.

Peace and blessing to you,
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Thank you for your question.

The blood of Christ is totally sufficient and it is only activated through faith. Not all faith is the same. There are different quantities and qualities of faith. As our understanding of the Gospel grows which has at its heart the blood of Christ and its sufficiency we mature through receiving more grace, more oof the power of God to be transformed, we are filled more with the spirit the chief gift of grace. As we grow in faith we go from faith to faith. It is done unto us as we believe. Hence our understanding the gospel informs our faith and we can receive more of that which is completed already. Jesus said on the cross "it is finished." They that trust in him will not be shamed. God will do that he has promised. Faith can be dead or alive and can not be seen (by men) except through our works. But just because we have works does not mean we have understanding faith in the blood of Christ. Many do not have faith but do good works because of pride to exalt themselves but not to exalt God who is worthy and the only one truly good. Their standards being low they cannot approach perfection and holiness and they do not care wanting to be only seen before men. They have their reward. God wants the heart. If we cleanse the inside of the cup the outside will be clean also. Christ wants a bride without spot or blemish. The pure of heart will see God. Purity of heart is the inside of the cup. In hard times we can really see what we are made of and repent. This is why the hard times come upon us. The hardest times of all.

Now about virgins.....Were not some brides wise and other foolish? What made the wise virgins wise and the foolish virgins foolish?

Then the Kingdom of Heaven will be like ten virgins, who took their lamps, and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. Those who were foolish, when they took their lamps, took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. Now while the bridegroom delayed, they all slumbered and slept. But at midnight there was a cry, "Behold! The bridegroom is coming! Come out to meet him!" Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. The foolish said to the wise, "Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out." But the wise answered, saying, "What if there isn't enough for us and you? You go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves." While they went away to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. Afterward the other virgins also came, saying, "Lord, Lord, open to us." But he answered, "Most certainly I tell you, I don't know you." Watch therefore, for you don't know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

– Matthew 25:1-13, World English Bible

The oil is a symbol of anointing and the chief gift of grace the Holy Spirit.

Now about the church being purified.....I was thinking more along the line of the church not accruing God's wrath but his discipline.

4In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. 5And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:

“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,

6because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.”a


7Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? 8If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. 9Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! 10Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. 11No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.
Hebrew 12
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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but i dont think it will be the wrath of the lamb quake.

i think someone means to use that as an illusion in order to promote themselves as a christ.......

remember, mens hearts would fail them because of that which was coming upon the earth, paraphrasing.

a deception is woven, so great the deception, that the very elect would believe it, if possible......

if you percieve the seals being opened, then you will percieve the one coming as a christ/messiah. for miracles will abound!

and as i continue down this road i see myself getting further and further from everyone else with a great expanse separating me from them.

the first one is a false christ.

the tribulation hasnt begun.

it will seem as if it has happened, and they will be able to speak with great authority that everyone misinterpreted the scriptures, but it is not yet.

everyone will come under a great spirit of doubt and uncertainty, but they will follow. because the illusion is great and the arguement is well thought out.

those who refuse to believe will be considered rebellious to the Lord, and they will kill them thinking they do God a favor.

they will willingly be marked, because in revelations our Lord says he will write upon us his name and the Fathers name, and that we would be given a name only we shall know, (paraphrasing again)

barush?.......

we are in deep crap here!!!

if we should be wrong, then its rebellion to resist

if we are right and resist, we are dead. but are raised back up.

provided we are correct.

if everyone thinks its the Lord, then everyone will hand you over to the authorities to be killed.

even family members.

maybe elenin isnt the straw that breaks the camels back......

but it could be.

so, how strong is your faith in understanding the bible. cause its upon that we will haft to navigate by.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



I am not defending Dan's viewpoint but just trying to point out what I see him saying and that is the beginning of the tribulation there will be a great quake. If the time table that most hold to be true is correct the tribulation when happen for 7 years. Jerusalem will be occupied by a multinational force at some point and also two witnesses will appear. I don't know. But it makes some sense to me. But that is not what I concentrate on I concentrate on being spiritually prepared for anything. Fully entering into the will of God by grace and being transformed into the image of his Son not through works but by grace through faith. I think this is the true Gospel and not widely understood and despised by many that are not willing to trust God and who walk by sight rather then by faith. When the time of great trouble comes the likes of that have never been I will (because of the grace of God and I am confident in him and his Christ) to be able to stand. The troubles will force the people of God to search themselves. Just because a person is coming in great power and miracles doesn't make them true witnesses of God. Because false prophets will come showing wonders that if it was possible would fool the very elect. So I agree. Wild times and great deception and confusion.

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At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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i'm not really worried per se.

but the little dog inside see's something and wants to give a warning bark to anyone who will listen......

not that theres anything to it neccessarily, for its just a dog barking, not even a watcher on the wall.

the dog just wants to bark to attract attention so someone else will see if they see what he sees perhaps.

that is all.....
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Dear Hashem,
God has taught me about true love and true forgivness.
My whole life God has chastend me in this. I hear him calling ever so soft now. (Which I know is because I am in sin to much)
What do you think he is calling me for??

I do not think I am a prophet of any kind. Nothing special really. He has been talking to me through dreams right now. When I follow his commands though I can hear him with out the help of my subconsious.

I get the dream that I am flying high above the world.
Everything is beautiful and crystal clear. The sand sparkels like diamonds. The water as beautiful as emeralds.

I hear a voice calling me "Go to the well April, Go to it"
In the middle of this beautiful earth is this well. It is not spetaculer in anyway. Compared to the way the earth looks.
It is made out of great strong stones.

Then of course I wake up


Another strange thing is, this is during the time I walked in his statutes.
I was praying and meditating on what he had revealed so far about his scriptures. On the window I drew a symbol of something that washed over me to do.

After that I couldnt concentrate on anything, I needed to know what that symbol meant.
Something pushed me to check out a free hebrew sight.
After searching for hours through this site I found the symbol.
The symbol meant what my name means

The opening or the begging.

When you have time let me know what you think
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Everything you really desire is can be found In Christ. If you understand this and believe. Most of the time we do not understand because of the lust of our flesh and the pride of life we are deluded in not realizing the truth of this simple Good news. Continue to seek Christ and you will find him. Go back in this thread and read some of my posts. Read the Scripture and believe that the Spirit of Truth can lead you to all truth. You will be all right if you trust the God that cared for you so much he suffered for you even the God that saves There is only one true God and he did that for you. So do the work of God and believe in the one he has sent.

Think about these two scripture passages and you will be blessed. Let the understanding of these passages inform your faith

28They replied, “We want to perform God’s works, too. What should we do?”

29Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.” John 6

13People were bringing little children to Jesus to have him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them. 14When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” 16And he took the children in his arms, put his hands on them and blessed them. Mark 10


Be sincere. Rest in the Goodness of God. Trust Jesus as a little child. Let him embrace you and bless you. Surely he will bless and you will not be put to shame in his name.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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i'm not really worried per se.

but the little dog inside see's something and wants to give a warning bark to anyone who will listen......

not that theres anything to it neccessarily, for its just a dog barking, not even a watcher on the wall.

the dog just wants to bark to attract attention so someone else will see if they see what he sees perhaps.

that is all.....
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I definitely agree with you that people will think they are doing God a service and they will be on the wrong side.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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i got a question for you?

whats your secret for making a thread that gets more than 5 replies????

my threads die quickly
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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i got a question for you?

whats your secret for making a thread that gets more than 5 replies????

my threads die quickly
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I don't know

Speak the truth boldly. (I guess.) The truth boldly spoken is always controversial.

What ever happened to tribe of Judah? He and wild honey and you were really getting in to that Law and grace thing for awhile. Was that resolved? I hope he was edified. I didn't feel I needed to add my two bits. You and wild honey were doing fine.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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The lord will use the tribulation period to purify his Bride. (She really do need to take a bath.)
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


I find this a fascinating view of yours.

Are you suggesting that the blood of Christ is not enough to cleanse his bride?

That she needs more cleansing? More purifying?

Indeed, there were 10 virgins waiting for their husband.

But they all slumbered. Not 5 of them... All of them slumbered. Both the wise and the foolish.

But 5 were taken and 5 remained.

May we be found wise before the bridegroom.

Peace and blessing to you,
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Thank you for your question.

The blood of Christ is totally sufficient and it is only activated through faith....
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


Thanks for your thoughtful reply,

I agree. Jesus Christ is totally sufficient.

Indeed, I have lots of questions. But not about saving faith. I wonder about lots of things, but not about the power and promises of Jesus Christ.

I wonder how wise virgins can be found slumbering when the restrainer is removed and the man of sin is revealed to those who dwell upon the earth.

I wonder how wise virgins can be found buying and selling when their only choice is the mark of the beast and sores and vexation.

I wonder how people will be marrying and giving in marriage when all hell is breaking loose upon the earth. When angels are proclaiming Woe!. When people are being killed and destroyed in massive numbers. When boulders the weight of 100 lbs are slamming the earth. When demons are set free to torment all men save the 144,000.

Does not sound like the days of Noah, unless of course we are speaking of after the flood waters. We are not.

But I am told it will be as in the days of Noah; we see them eating and drinking, buying and selling. Living life as normal. Slumbering. Until Noah entered the ark and all hell broke loose.

We know chastening is good. I appreciate your comments about such things. I agree, it is for our benefit. I have been the recipient of chastening many times in my walk, and it has always been to my benefit. But now some see the great tribulation as a period of chastening. Others do not share this very grim view.

Rather, others see that period is a time (described by The LORD himself) such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be (Mat 24:21). Days of vengence, as our LORD says (Luke 21:22). It is a day of darkness and not light (Amos 5:18).

The first 4 chapters are very heavy church-age. The remaning chapters make no mention of the church-age. We see The seven letters contain promises and warnings to the church age. Both in a corporate sense and a personal sense. Some are promised to be kept out and some warned they will be cast in.

Sadly, scripture tells us some do indeed have an appointment with wrath. God have mercy upon those who dwell upon the earth in the days of his vengence. Scripture tells us few receive the seal of God in those days. We read of only the 12 tribes of 12,000 having immunity. None else are immune to the horrors; and yet still we see his hand of mercy stretched out during this time (those who have come out of great tribulation).

But in those times, even the angels are proclaiming Woe!... Woe! (consider such a thing, angels proclaiming distress and sorrow at what they are witnessing and what is occuring on the earth). We see that if those times were not shortened, no flesh would survive~!

It seems men have differing interpretations of just exactly what the Great Tribulation represents. some say it as a time where God will 'purify' his bride. Some say the bride needs a bath.

Others pray for men to be accounted worthy to escape such horrors, as instructed by our LORD. To be found worthy in Christ alone and to always be looking for his appearing. Others hope his wrath is not intended for his bride. Those with this hope purify themselves.

We know there are many attendees in a wedding, besides the bride, which will indeed come to the wedding. Guests and friends (so to speak), and the Father and The Son will welcome them with open arms if/when they choose to accept the invitation. But I wonder if the body of Christ truly realizes its very, very special and privileged role and purpose in Gods plan. Truly realizes the keys which are in its posession and the promises which have been made to it.

I wonder if it is not the very power which holds back the gates of Hell. I suspect I do not truly realize the supernatural role the Holy Spirit is performing. But I am convinced we all will know the mysteries in the fullness of time. For now we rest in him with patience and hope and the promise knowing he will complete the works he began.

Sorry for the long post. I don't prefer to use many words. They just kept coming. Thanks again for your reply and for reading my humble views.

Love, mercy, grace and rest be found in The LORD.

Hope, comfort and peace and guidance be found in The comforter.

All Praise and Glory to The Father. His will be done. His Kingdom come.

peace to you,
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i got a question for you?

whats your secret for making a thread that gets more than 5 replies????

my threads die quickly
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I don't know

Speak the truth boldly. (I guess.) The truth boldly spoken is always controversial.

What ever happened to tribe of Judah? He and wild honey and you were really getting in to that Law and grace thing for awhile. Was that resolved? I hope he was edified. I didn't feel I needed to add my two bits. You and wild honey were doing fine.
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i dont recall think the thread is still going perhaps, not sure....

me and wild honey get along i guess, to a point anyways.

but we even have our differences, but its good that even though different people can get along. atleast in some matters :)

enter you and daniel and even that ufo angel guy......

friends.

in any case they have been preaching against paul as being a true apostle.

so i fired back in a thread......

maybe the other crowd will find it later, perhaps to many children are still on.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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i got a question for you?

whats your secret for making a thread that gets more than 5 replies????

my threads die quickly
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I don't know

Speak the truth boldly. (I guess.) The truth boldly spoken is always controversial.

What ever happened to tribe of Judah? He and wild honey and you were really getting in to that Law and grace thing for awhile. Was that resolved? I hope he was edified. I didn't feel I needed to add my two bits. You and wild honey were doing fine.
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one of these days i guess we will haft to discuss the book of genesis......

not right now though, im a little wore out on that topic right now.

then perhaps you will see how strange it can get......
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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But I wonder if the body of Christ truly realizes its very, very special and privileged role and purpose in Gods plan. Truly realizes the keys which are in its posession and the promises which have been made to it.

I wonder if it is not the very power which holds back the gates of Hell. I suspect I do not truly realize the supernatural role the Holy Spirit is performing. But I am convinced we all will know the mysteries in the fullness of time. For now we rest in him with patience and hope and the promise knowing he will complete the works he began.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Justification and Sanctification and Glorification. I am saved. I am being saved. I will be saved.

Justification = I am saved

Sanctification = I am being saved

Glorification = I will be saved.

This is an imperfect formula we can use in approaching the mystery of the Gospel. Most people think (in their pride) that Justification is totally by grace but Sanctification is a mixture of works and grace. (And having begun in the spirit they seek perfection in the flesh.) Of course Glorification/perfection is totally by grace but most believe that this can only happen after you die. Whereas Jesus said in your believe nothing is impossible them that believe.

Justification and Sanctification and Glorification are all by grace working through our faith. We receive as we believe and our understanding of the good news informs the quality of our faith and our results. Every promise of God is Yea and Amen in Christ Jesus. (Who believes this?) To truly believe this is to truly know God's name. For to really know God's name (his Character) we must know how good he really is. We are not taught this name of God that God has expressed through his Son as we ought. If we really had been taught then some of us would had believed and had entered into they complete promises of God. And one of them is that anything we would ask in the name of Jesus would be granted. This is the name that the two witnesses will walk in. This is the name that each and every Christian should attain to so the fullness of God's will will been done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Many are shaking their heads. Not believing me or the scriptures and saying such things cannot be true. The complete Gospel has been lost for centuries. How do you think Philip was translated from here to there and the incredible works of Stephen were performed. They weren't apostles but mere man as you and I. (In fact so were the apostles but we are used to putting them on a pedestal that they ought not have.) They believed the Good news and it was done into the as the believed. We are complete in Christ the head of every principality and power. Do you not believe that you are a new creature in him? Meshach Shaderach and Abednego survived the fire. Is that a promised left out? Daniel survived the Lions den. Is that another promise in our hearts we can not receive? What does the scripture say about the power of (understanding) faith in Christ?



<< Hebrews 11 >>
King James Version
1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. 5By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

17By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. 20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 21By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 22By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.

23By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. 24By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; 25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

30By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: 36And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

39And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
40God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

We have received the promise. There is no promised left out in Christ. Those tha know their God in the last days shall do exploits because to survive you will need to get a prayer through. And they will teach others. And Holiness will be much increased. Some will understand the saying, "When your eye is single your body will be full of light." This will be the time of the manifest Sons of God. The two witnesses will be two of them if not the chief among them.

Then some of the church will be living epistles of God and proving God's perfect will in Christ. Not in their righteousness but manifesting the full righteousness of God. Not in their name but his they come. For they understand why the 24 elders casts their crowns at the feet of the Lamb of God.

Do you?
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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But I wonder if the body of Christ truly realizes its very, very special and privileged role and purpose in Gods plan. Truly realizes the keys which are in its posession and the promises which have been made to it.

I wonder if it is not the very power which holds back the gates of Hell. I suspect I do not truly realize the supernatural role the Holy Spirit is performing. But I am convinced we all will know the mysteries in the fullness of time. For now we rest in him with patience and hope and the promise knowing he will complete the works he began.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Justification and Sanctification and Glorification. I am saved. I am being saved. I will be saved.

Justification = I am saved

Sanctification = I am being saved

Glorification = I will be saved.

This is an imperfect formula we can use in approaching the mystery of the Gospel. Most people think (in their pride) that Justification is totally by grace but Sanctification is a mixture of works and grace. (And having begun in the spirit they seek perfection in the flesh.) Of course Glorification/perfection is totally by grace but most believe that this can only happen after you die. Whereas Jesus said in your believe nothing is impossible them that believe.

Justification and Sanctification and Glorification are all by grace working through our faith. We receive as we believe and our understanding of the good news informs the quality of our faith and our results. Every promise of God is Yea and Amen in Christ Jesus. (Who believes this?) To truly believe this is to truly know God's name. For to really know God's name (his Character) we must know how good he really is. We are not taught this name of God that God has expressed through his Son as we ought. If we really had been taught then some of us would had believed and had entered into they complete promises of God. And one of them is that anything we would ask in the name of Jesus would be granted. This is the name that the two witnesses will walk in. This is the name that each and every Christian should attain to so the fullness of God's will will been done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Many are shaking their heads. Not believing me or the scriptures and saying such things cannot be true. The complete Gospel has been lost for centuries. How do you think Philip was translated from here to there and the incredible works of Stephen were performed. They weren't apostles but mere man as you and I. (In fact so were the apostles but we are used to putting them on a pedestal that they ought not have.) They believed the Good news and it was done into the as the believed. We are complete in Christ the head of every principality and power. Do you not believe that you are a new creature in him? Meshach Shaderach and Abednego survived the fire. Is that a promised left out? Daniel survived the Lions den. Is that another promise in our hearts we can not receive? What does the scripture say about the power of (understanding) faith in Christ?



<< Hebrews 11 >>
King James Version
1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. 5By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

17By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. 20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 21By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 22By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.

23By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. 24By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; 25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

30By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: 36And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

39And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
40God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

We have received the promise. There is no promised left out in Christ. Those tha know their God in the last days shall do exploits because to survive you will need to get a prayer through. And they will teach others. And Holiness will be much increased. Some will understand the saying, "When your eye is single your body will be full of light." This will be the time of the manifest Sons of God. The two witnesses will be two of them if not the chief among them.

Then some of the church will be living epistles of God and proving God's perfect will in Christ. Not in their righteousness but manifesting the full righteousness of God. Not in their name but his they come. For they understand why the 24 elders casts their crowns at the feet of the Lamb of God.

Do you?
 Quoting: Baruch HaShem


Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for a dialogue. Sadly, it feels like we are speaking at each other as opposed to with each other.

I understand you have a message to share and you are going to share it. You wish to share your faith through words here on GLP. Seems honorable and I can appreciate your motivation.

May God give your words power to reach souls. May God put your knowledge to action in works through your faith.

For his glory.

peace,
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Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for a dialogue. Sadly, it feels like we are speaking at each other as opposed to with each other.

I understand you have a message to share and you are going to share it. You wish to share your faith through words here on GLP. Seems honorable and I can appreciate your motivation.

May God give your words power to reach souls. May God put your knowledge to action in works through your faith.

For his glory.

peace,
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Yes I am on a mission.

My eye is single It is placed on the pearl of great price. I have the one thing that is necessary and it will not be taken from me.. I am interested only in the highest truth. This truth can not be approach through human effort. The way is straight and narrow and from alpha and omega from beginning to end it is Christ. I speak the truth. I am God's witness. What is greater? Your dialogue will pass away but God's words will not pass away.


Yes for his glory

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At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.

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