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Is the Kundalini raising the same as being filled with the Holy Ghost?

 
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The sign of Jonah is deeper than the tree than the paper than the type it is the one that like wise shall be seen..continuing it's same will and purpose that does not change.

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wasn't it the Lords work at the cross which fulfilled the law????
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I heaven and earth still here? All is not fulfilled then is it?
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After suching for long for the truh this came on my mind today and is the tuth.
The way all get at each other hacking and biting. Ohh jesus said that and yeshua said that. But yahawashi said this here. God written like this God/G-D/God/Yawhe/YWH/Yawe/Adonai/Elochim/Lord and so on.God said mention my name with respect. Thast all. Not be affrait to say my name and dont write it out.But be godfearing and respectfull toward me your god and love me becuse i love you. Have you ever been affrait to call your dad, dad? Because if you are that is probably not your dad.
And if we only love who loves us wich reward will we have for that? No single one. So if we say we love god and really still fight with our husband, mom, dad, sister, glp user lol and we are unable to forgive what will we have from that at the end? Fire
Respect you parents, thats a good thing it will help us to learn how to really respect God our Father.
Hmm love your enemy, how will you love your enemy outside of your house if you cant even love the enemy in your house.
The true believer has to be a coplite fool in the view of this world. An idiot that likes to be pushed around and beaten up all day long.Calling and praying to a God that no one has ever seen so far.And he will not even be sad about that he will turn his other cheak and tell you to go on. You will help him on his way to his real home he can indeed pray for someone that easyly he could call his enemy and he will but he will love you.He will love you because with every bit of hate you have for him you bring him one step closer to his home.The Law of corse, he will obey the law,
but he will know that doing this is not going to grand him selvation. Aswell not because it was given to jews but because it was given to the pepople by god to tell them how he wants to be shown that you love him.And doing so keep him clean in the eyes of his creaitor. Only this one is going to make it.Because that unique beliver combines what anyway always belonged together and was never ment to be teared apart: The Old Covernant and the so called New Covernant wich is an extension of what has been tould befor by god. All will look at this one like he is stupid and only this person, because leed into the truh will know for what he lets all that happen to him. No matter what we try we cant force or in any way bring someone to akt toward us the way we like. Only thing that we can do is control how we treat others.

So the end of beeing leed into true and pure wisdom is letting go on the worlds habbits. Debaiting about religion, and sin or no sin, yahawashi yeshua yahwe YWH , eating this or not eating that, sleeping with 500 or 1 prson a lifetime, i could go on. We should have left that behind us long ago.The word of god was understandable only we humans like to complicate things. The comandments are put in place over 2000 years ago. And we are still debaiting just like they did when they got them , in wich way and what of that comantments we want to fallow. They are said we only need to read and move on to eat real food and stop drinking milk. Is it the Law that will save us? No. And we all know that. Is it the mercy and love God has for us that will save us? Yes.Im sure all saw the verse that every sin can be forgiven by god. So why debaiting all time ahhhh you bloody sinner are not going to make it!



This is the Law no i have the wisdom and you are deceived. I know that no one wants to hear that but we have to denounce the fails thing as what it is and then step away from that thing or go down with it ( the world). Can be a person can be a whole religion can be so many things and are so many things. Who here is really treating the other the way he wants to be treaded????? I saw no single one incouding me! But im going to change that from today on!

If we go on like that no one will make it.And we deserve to perish big time,because we are to " soft hearted" to punish our kids when they bahave wrong. And we are to cold hearted to forgive our spose what he/she does wrong on us. Thats were it starts. We hate to see that we are sinning over and over and learning nothing.Guess who else hate that , yep, god hates that. He would because he can forgive us all sins if we learn but we dont seam t do that.

The small time that is still left and will soon be over, we spend debaiting with others about right and wrong view.

If your so strong believing that your right, and what you say is on top right then you would have faith to let go and let happen what has to happen. You would not try to convince even your own family member to do and believe the way you do. Because it is not you that made you seek.So how can it be you that makes your neigbour seek. How can i blind teach a blind how to see well.That only shows that you still love the things in the world and of the world more then God.

On my way to seek the truh i have just as all here debatet with others witch is good to some extend to sharp your sense and knowleage. People time is to short and it is time to move to the next level. Let go of all worldly things if you really wish to be with God at the end. Look for people that believe alike with you and stay with them. If there is no one your probably one of the luckyest once.If there are just a few to find BINGO then you got it right and on top you have got ridd of all worldly things and you are then made perfect and will be part of the bride body.What better thing could happen?

Mixing up time is over and we all know that. It is time to choose a side and stop hopping from one leg to the other. Ahh im christian ahh am jew ahh no im moslem tomorrow im buddist no better i stay with christians no let me think ahhhhh you will get lost in that. Your nothing if your one of the few your nothing in this world. Because you are not of that world. Your from an Heavenly Kingdom dont even try to fit in this world. If you are from the heavenly kingdom then stop and turn around and follow and listen and stop make the bible verses fight againced the other bible verse. And let your creaitor work on you to make you perfect just as he is. He dont need to save this world he can easyly creait a new one if he wants. Small thing for HIM.


Well im out.
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wasn't it the Lords work at the cross which fulfilled the law????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I heaven and earth still here? All is not fulfilled then is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


so you are saying you are saved by works then..........

i'll stick with grace.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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lol

You forget he cured on a Sabbath

you forget he hung round gentiles and even ate with them
you forget he spoke to a samaritan woman

you forget he threw the merchants and those that sold animals for slaughter out of the temple

you forget he said..they have told you and eye for an eye..I tell you ..you know the rest

you forget he said..I establish a NEW covenant with you

A NEW commandment I give you..Love your neighbour as yourself and God above all else

you forget he called the doctors of the old law..vipers and hypocrites

you forget he touched unclean people

you forget he touched a corpse

youforget he said you cant put NEW WINE in OLD Wine skins

You forget he said..Do unto others as you would have them do to you BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAW

you forget the Sanhedrin allegedly wanted him dead


do you need more?
 Quoting: wildhoney


grace not law........ :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Oopsie...


Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


I have given you Direct examples of how and when he contravened Torah Law..can you deny those actions are against Torah Law?

as to your quotes

in Sermon of the Mounbt he states specifically

do unto others as you would have them do to you..because THIS IS THE LAW
 Quoting: wildhoney


You have not given "me" anything. But lets take a look see.
you mentioned him being unclean because he touched the dead? If he raised the person to life, then he is not unclean is he?

Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.

Barbaric eh?
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lol

You forget he cured on a Sabbath

you forget he hung round gentiles and even ate with them
you forget he spoke to a samaritan woman

you forget he threw the merchants and those that sold animals for slaughter out of the temple

you forget he said..they have told you and eye for an eye..I tell you ..you know the rest

you forget he said..I establish a NEW covenant with you

A NEW commandment I give you..Love your neighbour as yourself and God above all else

you forget he called the doctors of the old law..vipers and hypocrites

you forget he touched unclean people

you forget he touched a corpse

youforget he said you cant put NEW WINE in OLD Wine skins

You forget he said..Do unto others as you would have them do to you BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAW

you forget the Sanhedrin allegedly wanted him dead


do you need more?
 Quoting: wildhoney


ohyeah
"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM
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You forget His purpose he purposed you for.
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You forget His purpose he purposed you for.
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Which is to fornicate with horses, goats and sheep.

Fucking sheep fuckers.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
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I have no where to run to I instead have a Lord to run to.. I have a savior I have One that loveth me and forgives me when no other will...

I have the One who said "hey you sinner I want you come to me" so run run run run to Him..be like the camel load up all others in your way throw them on you back and run to Him run to Him run run run to Him........we are running now we will be running unto that day ........and praying while running...look there are herds of us running..... :)



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grace not law........ :)
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Oopsie...


Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


I have given you Direct examples of how and when he contravened Torah Law..can you deny those actions are against Torah Law?

as to your quotes

in Sermon of the Mounbt he states specifically

do unto others as you would have them do to you..because THIS IS THE LAW
 Quoting: wildhoney


You have not given "me" anything. But lets take a look see.
you mentioned him being unclean because he touched the dead? If he raised the person to life, then he is not unclean is he?

Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.

Barbaric eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


Yeah, you are stretching the canvas to fit your pre-conceived frame. Hint: I'm not a Christian. But I will play your game.

1. There is no Law barring from doing good on the Sabbath. Its the one thing you can do. Helping people is a Mitzva. A no-brainer

2. There is NO LAW which forbids being friends with Gentiles, or talking to Samaritans.

3. The killing of animals, and the exchange rate was a vile practice which has NO BASIS in Law. The Holy of Holies was empty, there was no Ark of Covenant, animal sacrifice was finished. By the time Yeshua walked the earth, the priesthood had been usurped by the highest bidder.

4. Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.


5-6. To love your neighbor as yourself, and to love God above all else is not new. If a person truly loves God, then they already love their neighbors. I really don't see why you would have a problem with this, unless you are just looking for reasons to be Lawless.

7. He called the scribe and Pharisees hypocrites. Why would he do that? Because they taught the Law, but did not obey it. They built a fence around the Torah. Another no- brainer

8-9. He healed sick people, and raised the dead. If a person is healed, or brought back to life, then He is NOT unclean. Another no-brainer.

10. Yes, those set in their ways will not hear the truth. Its like walking into a Christian Church and condemning Christmas. They will not hear you.

11. Do NOT do unto others, what you would NOT have them do unto you. This is the Law. The Law of just compensation. If someone struck you on the cheek, and you did NOT turn the other cheek, then you have NOT broken the Law.
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Oopsie...


Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


I have given you Direct examples of how and when he contravened Torah Law..can you deny those actions are against Torah Law?

as to your quotes

in Sermon of the Mounbt he states specifically

do unto others as you would have them do to you..because THIS IS THE LAW
 Quoting: wildhoney


You have not given "me" anything. But lets take a look see.
you mentioned him being unclean because he touched the dead? If he raised the person to life, then he is not unclean is he?

Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.

Barbaric eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


Yeah, you are stretching the canvas to fit your pre-conceived frame. Hint: I'm not a Christian. But I will play your game.

1. There is no Law barring from doing good on the Sabbath. Its the one thing you can do. Helping people is a Mitzva. A no-brainer

2. There is NO LAW which forbids being friends with Gentiles, or talking to Samaritans.

3. The killing of animals, and the exchange rate was a vile practice which has NO BASIS in Law. The Holy of Holies was empty, there was no Ark of Covenant, animal sacrifice was finished. By the time Yeshua walked the earth, the priesthood had been usurped by the highest bidder.

4. Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.


5-6. To love your neighbor as yourself, and to love God above all else is not new. If a person truly loves God, then they already love their neighbors. I really don't see why you would have a problem with this, unless you are just looking for reasons to be Lawless.

7. He called the scribe and Pharisees hypocrites. Why would he do that? Because they taught the Law, but did not obey it. They built a fence around the Torah. Another no- brainer

8-9. He healed sick people, and raised the dead. If a person is healed, or brought back to life, then He is NOT unclean. Another no-brainer.

10. Yes, those set in their ways will not hear the truth. Its like walking into a Christian Church and condemning Christmas. They will not hear you.

11. Do NOT do unto others, what you would NOT have them do unto you. This is the Law. The Law of just compensation. If someone struck you on the cheek, and you did NOT turn the other cheek, then you have NOT broken the Law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


12. The Sanhedrim was corrupt. Filled with Scribes Sadducees, and Pharisees. Hypocrites. What is a hypocrite? Someone that tells you to obey the Law, as they are breaking it.
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wasn't it the Lords work at the cross which fulfilled the law????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I heaven and earth still here? All is not fulfilled then is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


so you are saying you are saved by works then..........

i'll stick with grace.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, you just said that.

Which part of this are you having trouble understanding? You do not get to pick and choose, unless you are an apostate, or are following a different God. Read this next part VERY CAREFULLY.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Its pretty bad when a non-Christian has to grab you by the hand so that you will understand.
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The sign of Jonah is deeper than the tree than the paper than the type it is the one that like wise shall be seen..continuing it's same will and purpose that does not change.


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For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth
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The sign of Jonah is deeper than the tree than the paper than the type it is the one that like wise shall be seen..continuing it's same will and purpose that does not change.


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For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth
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Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea
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wasn't it the Lords work at the cross which fulfilled the law????
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


I heaven and earth still here? All is not fulfilled then is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


so you are saying you are saved by works then..........

i'll stick with grace.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, you just said that.

Which part of this are you having trouble understanding? You do not get to pick and choose, unless you are an apostate, or are following a different God. Read this next part VERY CAREFULLY.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Its pretty bad when a non-Christian has to grab you by the hand so that you will understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

try again
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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I heaven and earth still here? All is not fulfilled then is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


so you are saying you are saved by works then..........

i'll stick with grace.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


No, you just said that.

Which part of this are you having trouble understanding? You do not get to pick and choose, unless you are an apostate, or are following a different God. Read this next part VERY CAREFULLY.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Its pretty bad when a non-Christian has to grab you by the hand so that you will understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397025


Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

try again
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Hello again it is nice to meet up with you in the kingdom...

and yes ..

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

He is our rock on which we stand like a great millstone he is

Zechariah 12:3
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

He brings forth righteousness in his judgment

Revelation 18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

He is our redeemer and our keeper He guards His flock

Mark 9:42
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Amen His mercy endureth forever
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He gave me water so I would not drown and go into the pit.
Jonah 2:6-9
I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.
But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.


Matthew 16:18

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

John 1:42
And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.


Hallelujah when you cast the stone it will crush all it lands one...Amen

Matthew 21:44
And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
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so you are saying you are saved by works then..........

i'll stick with grace.
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No, you just said that.

Which part of this are you having trouble understanding? You do not get to pick and choose, unless you are an apostate, or are following a different God. Read this next part VERY CAREFULLY.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Its pretty bad when a non-Christian has to grab you by the hand so that you will understand.
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Christians are not under the law.....

For Christ is the end of the law for unrighteousness to everyone who believes. rom. 10:4

He Himself is our peace,..... having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances. eph 2:15

Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. col2:13,14

If we still live according to the jewish law, we ackknowledge that we have not recieved grace. Ignatius

the gifts granted through a faithful servantare not equal to those bestowed by the true Son. if then, the law of Moses had been sufficient to conferr eternal life, it was to no purpose for the Savior himself to come and suffer for us. clement of alexandria

Paul blames [the galatians] for maintaining circumcision, and observing times, days, months and years, according to those jewish ceremonies. For they should have known those things were now abrogatted, according to the new dispensation..... Thus it was said by Hosea: "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths." the creator had long before dis-carded all these things, and the apostle was now proclaiming them to be worthy of renunciation. tertullian

The yoke of the law was heavy, which is cast off by us. And the Lords yoke is easy, which is taken up by us.... In the Gospel according to Matthew, it says: "Come unto me you who labor and are burdened and I will give you rest." .... Also, in the Acts of the Apostles: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to impose upon you no other burden than those things that are of neccessity: that you should abstain from idolatries, from shedding of blood, and from fornication." Cyprian

When you read the law, do not think yourself to be bound to observe the additional commandments.... Read them only for the sake of history, in order to learn about them and to glorify God that he has delivered you from such great and so numberous bonds. Apostolic constitutions

try again
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Hello again it is nice to meet up with you in the kingdom...

and yes ..

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

He is our rock on which we stand like a great millstone he is

Zechariah 12:3
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

He brings forth righteousness in his judgment

Revelation 18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

He is our redeemer and our keeper He guards His flock

Mark 9:42
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Amen His mercy endureth forever
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hello.....
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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I still have your testimony saved in a Word document bye bye :)
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Baruch HaShem,

you have some truth in what you are trying to say....however, to me, there is a spirit of confusion. This is not an insult....just what I'm feeling in my spirit.

Also....you're ANOTHER of the 'two' witnesses...whew....we've seen quite a few here at GLP!!!

Yes, the name(s) of GOD are very important. But HE has many, many names...like Jesus Christ. We are protected by HIS name and this is why it is important.

"I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—the name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.

While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled."

John 17:11-12

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No the confusion is in you and you even said as much saying that it was sensed in your spirit. Now thinking that is it my confusion is called projection.

Let me explain. I think you getting titles and names mixed up. And also you get earthly sounds (words and units of language) made with fleshly lips mixed up with spiritual realities. Jesus is not the spiritual name of Jesus that we must walk in. Nor what ever variant of pronunciation in different languages these are not the true name of Jesus. It is no about earthly sound. So when Jesus said "ask anything in my name and it will be done." He is not talking about earthly sounds made with fleshly lips but about a spiritual communcation even an anointing that comes by knowing him intimately in a spiritual reality called the kingdom of God. Read the passage in the Gospel of John. You will then see the name of Jesus is the loving character of Christ. You can not ask in this name unless you are in it. In it! This relates to communion and being one with Christ in spiritual fellowship. This is not just about justification the beginning level of salvation. This name is found in Sanctification also and completed in Glorification which are other aspects of salvation in Christ. We neither justifies ourselves nor do we sanctifies or glorifies ourselves. All of this is the gift of God that the truly humble who continually falls on the rock of Christ and is utter broken receives. This is also called the rest of the people of God. Many do not discover this rest because of unbelief. (Go to book Hebrews) If you are confused then you do not have eyes to see or ears to hear and you do not understand. The lack is not mine but yours.

The witnesses will understand these things. Some will partly understand and do exploits. Not everyone can not get a prayer through. (LOL)

We all are called to be witnesses, all those that are called by Jesus name. Jesus said if he be lifted up he will draw all men to him. We lift up Jesus by adoring him so much (true worship) that we want to be like him and are ready to let go of anything not like him. This is the way we become like him through an inner death and know and walk in his name and is a new creature. People will see the truth in us and be drawn to Christ. This is a sort of witnessing we are all called to do in some way. The two witnesses are chosen to do it in a greater way. If I know the way and am on the way I have a good chance of arriving at my destination.

You know the way too. I have just spoken it to you.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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I think the "delusion" will be when evil changes come to the
Catholic Church, when you hear the Eucharist is just
a symbol and not the Real Presence and other lies. And the persecution of Catholics increases, some will be deluded because of their anti-Catholicism thinking already, but they
will be wrong.
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Yippee !!! Baruch Bacharach is back !!! Welcome back to Clone central, Baruch. As one of the super clones on GLP, your absence has been quite gaping.....but it's good to see you've lost not one ounce of your rhetorical insipidness....Son, you are so far gone that the cows can't even find you....but hey, why sweat the small stuff....you're back....and Clone Central missed you....your entertainment factor is unparalleled. When it comes to your religion, insanity knows no bounds. And it has no better home for a brain cell as wanting as yours.
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This is proof of the strong delusion. The Kundalini awakening in the church? Is this in the name of Christ?
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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Yippee !!! Baruch Bacharach is back !!! Welcome back to Clone central, Baruch. As one of the super clones on GLP, your absence has been quite gaping.....but it's good to see you've lost not one ounce of your rhetorical insipidness....Son, you are so far gone that the cows can't even find you....but hey, why sweat the small stuff....you're back....and Clone Central missed you....your entertainment factor is unparalleled. When it comes to your religion, insanity knows no bounds. And it has no better home for a brain cell as wanting as yours.
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Right. You are the one that warned me about Lester. Lester and I never butted heads. He preaches the gospel mainly about being born again and i preach about union with God and the ultimate completion in Christ. We are cool.

He hasn't been on for a awhile.

Nice to see you missed me.

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At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

The LORD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation.
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Doesn't "baruch" mean "the son cut off" the closest translation for that word in hebrew (Strong's H1302)? Otherwise, "baruch" doesn't exist in Hebrew, that I could find.

Do you mean "barak" which means "blessed" in Hebrew (Strong's H1288). The Father's name ("ha sham") most certainly is barak! I'm just saying...


You are an imposter, op.
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Its very very powerful.Ancient yogi almost gain God like power with raising kundalini.
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Bla bLa blA
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grace not law........ :)
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Oopsie...


Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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I have given you Direct examples of how and when he contravened Torah Law..can you deny those actions are against Torah Law?

as to your quotes

in Sermon of the Mounbt he states specifically

do unto others as you would have them do to you..because THIS IS THE LAW
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You have not given "me" anything. But lets take a look see.
you mentioned him being unclean because he touched the dead? If he raised the person to life, then he is not unclean is he?

Do unto others, is like an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is NOT some barbaric excuse for violence. It is the first Law of just compensation. What that means is, if you do something which results in the loss of someone eye, and you were at fault, then you Lawfully must compensate that person for the loss of that eye.

Barbaric eh?
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Come on..tap dance around it if you can..

I have shown you..you need another

the adulteress was supposed to be stoned to death AS DECREED BY TORAH LAW..

what did Jesus do? he opposed it..AGAIN HE WENT AGAINST TORAH LAW

Im really sorry..you simply cant turn Jesus into something that suits your way of thinking ..Jesus is what He is NOT what you would like Him to be
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Oh and another thing..Jesus didnt give a toss for any nation..yes that includes israel
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)

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