Like babies arguing about the right answer.
When Christ-Likeness is put on the back-burner, as usual...
To Baruch, how are you helping anyone or offering a better alternative with your tone? What about respect? Sensitivity? Accommodation? Empathy? No wonder you're being trampled, but I've been trampled plenty as well ;)
To the devout Christians, I understand that the message of modern Christians being part of the deception is unthinkable and nightmarish, but perhaps with a great maturity and sober perspective, you could take an honest and objective look at the religion, its actions and how in-line it has become with actual lived Christ-Likeness? Does God want you to be petty, belittled, while graveling in worship and wallowing in judgmentalism? Or does God want us to be equal, Christ-Like, treating others how we wish to be treated?
I feel it is so important to make a distinction between the Demi-Urge Archetype of Light and Darkness of this particular universe, and the All-Loving First Creator of unconditional love and forgiveness of ALL the universes, no wrath, no jealousy, no place for darkness period, while accepting and allowing for the free-will of all children.
We are all big babies, let's try to grow-up a little bit...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278763Your point is well taken. So you have been making nice nice and I bad bad and we both are "trampled?" Maybe that says something about those doing the trampling?
I am uncompromising. I don't accommodate. I don't suffer fools lightly and those who would distort the word of God I battle against as i should.. That is my calling. I can and will take on all comers. There is the lamb of God and there is the Lion of Judah. I partake of the Lion being that I witness of his soon coming. LOL But I agree my tone can be improved. Ha! Ha! Ha! Thank you. But it is not the tone of people that destroys the earth. I know a lot of sneaky people ( maybe you know a few too) with the right tone. But I will try to speak the truth without telling people that they are wrong. It will be very hard but i will try. LOL (Good luck with that Baruch.) Men judge by the outward appearance but God judges the heart. Who do you think I should follow? There is a season for everything, this is the season not to bow down before men. or heed them to make pretty pretty. This is the time when hearts will fail from fear.
So your are a modern gnostic? Was Jesus the son of the demi-urge creator God or the Supreme being of all universes? Let us quote the Bible some. (I hope my "tone" is to your liking.)
<< John 1 >>
New International Version
The Word Became Flesh
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understooda it.
6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.b
10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent,c nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
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The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,d who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.1
5John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’” 16From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,e,f who is at the Father’s side, has made him known.It says here that Jesus is the creator.
Jesus came so that we might have eternal life. He came so that we may becomes the Sons of God. We become the Sons of God not through essence(being of the same substance but through energy the expression or radiation of the substance of God. This expression is called God's word which Jesus is. "The way the truth and the life." This radiation is Light and we become the children of Light.
Our oneness is in this fellowship of expression (communication/conversation) nearness to God which is his presence and Glory even His Light. Jesus according scripture is this Light. To enter God's substance is impossible without being annihilated it dissolves all to the true reality which is God. All that thinks they have become God in union with God because they believe in having the same substance as God (for everything is God) are deluded. They say things like "I am as a drop of water and God is the infinite ocean of being. If I discover myself I discover God because I am of one substance with him. Our difference is merely appearance or illusion ie Maya." They are wrong. (I hope my tone is not offending you. LOL I am just stating the truth.) A drop is still a drop and placed in the vast cosmic ocean ceases to exit as a drop. God's will is that we become like him not that we lose our individual life and cease to exist in Him. For as Paul said, We live ,move and have our being in God. He desire to purify the drop of water which is an image of the ocean but is not the ocean. We are created in the image of God yet we are not God.
Think about your image seen in a mirror. Is that you in the mirror? Yes and no. But sin is like dust and dirt on the mirror obstructing the image and distorting it. Sin is like the filth in a drop of polluted water. The water needs to be cleasne but the drop of water need not be tossed into the ocean where it is no longer a drop but has become the ocean. The ocean is still the ocean the drop as disappeared.. The purpose of Christ is to manifest to creation the Sons of God. He does this by grace which is the power of God working in us in a loving manner to bring about the image of God's Son even our own sonship in ourselves.
Why is there conflict because this is a story. It is God's story. We all have our roles. Only in creation can stories be told. In the substance of God there is no time or space there is only the eternal moment of God's perfection. This is not where we want to be and it is not God's will. Thus we need a mediator between God and what He truly is as He is (in his substance.) This mediator is the complete expression of God even his Word that was manifested and was made flesh for us. This is the only begotten son of God. He also become the work of God. The straight and narrow way to God that we travel on by grace. The only way between God and men and all creation. All other "Avatars" (so called) are deceived by powerful spirits filled with pride. There is a spiritual war and in war there is conflict and in victory peace. This is what is coming. The peace of God for the Lord of the sabbath comes in Victory to rule the earth. The Lord of rest. The day of the Lord. I truly believe I am one of his witnesses for my understanding comes not from me but from above. There are many things Jesus will teach us in the millennium. Will we believe him face to face? Evidently not because at the end of it Satan will be loosed again and deceive many. Only the humble will receive grace. Only the meek will inherited the earth.
