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Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver

 
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Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
note: THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE SITUATION AT FT CALHOUN!!gaah

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Meanwhile, in Nebraska, the flooding alert issued by the Nebraska Public Power District for the Cooper Nuclear Station near Brownville, Neb., didn't stop the plant from operating at full capacity Sunday. The Fort Calhoun Station, another nuclear plant along the Missouri River in eastern Nebraska, issued a similar alert June 6. That plant near Blair, Neb., has been shut down since April and will not be reactivated until the flooding subsides.
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[link to www.kmbc.com]

Cooper Nuclear Station (CNS) is a boiling water reactor (BWR) type nuclear power plant located on a 1,251-acre (5.1 km²) site near Brownville, Nebraska. It is the largest single-unit electrical generator in Nebraska.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

from another thread..

The Brownville levee is reported to be dangerously close to breaking. Sandbagging efforts have been abandoned. One wonders how such a break would affect Cooper Nuclear just three miles downstream.

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Google map.

[link to maps.google.com]
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Thread: LEVEE BREACHES ALONG THE MISSOURI RIVER (Page 3)

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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
recent aerial pic

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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
looks fine wtf is your problem
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Its a Mark 1 BWR just like Fuck-a-shima.

If TMI had been a Mark 1 it would have been all over.
TMI did have a hydrogen explosion but the containment
building held. Luckily with intact systems they where
able to cool it before the core fully melted.
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Since they won't have a tsunami on the Missouri, the cooling system will be intact. Presumably if they lose regular electric power they are equipped with adequate diesel generators. (If they aren't even ready with that, they are morons, so I'll assume they are ready.)

So cooling can continue of the spent fuel pools at Ft. Calhoun, although if the river water floods the fuel pool, perhaps some radioactivity may make contact with water flowing downstream -- or maybe not. Also the minerals in the water could possibly corrode the zircalloy coating on the fuel rods. One thing we don't have to worry about for a long time is that the rods will be dry exposed to air, although that becomes a big concern when the flood recedes!

I am concerned about the effect of river water on electronics operating the plant, especially for operating reactors. If those get flooded out, it could be a big mess and things go out of control.
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
looks fine wtf is your problem
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Are you mental? the river is slated to rise another 5 feet. Not only that, the rain isn't finished pouring down yet, also, there is a levy ready to burst upstream. Get it?
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looks fine wtf is your problem
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:mmmmhmm:
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recent aerial pic

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Who ever built that was a genius.
Great location.
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Fort Calhoun has six high power lines feeding it - some coming off of a high hill adjacent that comes into the plant at a high angle (hence the no fly zone). Any one of those lines intact will fully power the cooling pools (per the press report in Council Bluffs IA newspaper). They also have generators and onsite fuel to last longer than a month. As to water they have several systems including sophisticated (flood proof) giant sandbags and a "water dam" that could hold back twice the current flood level. So baring a tsunami from a dam break all is well - IMO. They got their asses handed to them a year ago on the flood preps they had so they had been working on it all year - very providential. Don't believe all of the spin out in the blogosphere - I drive by the plant on my way into work every day and live downwind of the plant and have rad detectors - everything has been normal so far.
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Here's a topographic map of the area..(click on it to enlarge)

[link to oi51.tinypic.com]

The Cooper plant is marked by the arrow at the bottom..I'm assuming the levee runs parallel to the road running into Brownsville (Highway 136)
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Fort Calhoun has six high power lines feeding it - some coming off of a high hill adjacent that comes into the plant at a high angle (hence the no fly zone). Any one of those lines intact will fully power the cooling pools (per the press report in Council Bluffs IA newspaper). They also have generators and onsite fuel to last longer than a month. As to water they have several systems including sophisticated (flood proof) giant sandbags and a "water dam" that could hold back twice the current flood level. So baring a tsunami from a dam break all is well - IMO. They got their asses handed to them a year ago on the flood preps they had so they had been working on it all year - very providential. Don't believe all of the spin out in the blogosphere - I drive by the plant on my way into work every day and live downwind of the plant and have rad detectors - everything has been normal so far.
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you have your Nuke Plants mixed up..this thread is about the Cooper plant not the one at Ft. Calhoun

as if that one wasn't bad enough
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The area of the Cooper plant has been raked by a series of training thunderstorms for hours now, and there's a massive area of moisture on the way. From the looks of the radar, the river levels aren't going anywhere but up, and up fast-

[link to radar.weather.gov]

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The area of the Cooper plant has been raked by a series of training thunderstorms for hours now, and there's a massive area of moisture on the way. From the looks of the radar, the river levels aren't going anywhere but up, and up fast-

[link to radar.weather.gov]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1435428

yup..looks like you're right..

[link to radar.weather.gov]

judging by the radar in Omaha it looks like it's been going directly over the plant which looks to be about the same distance S of Omaha
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
the following CBS story has their facts mixed up imao..

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

first it says:

In Nebraska, a flooding alert was issued for a second nuclear power plant. But officials said it was the least serious emergency notification issued, and the public and workers are not threatened.

then it goes on to mention the levee in Brownsville (Atchison County)

In Atchison County, there was a nearly steady flow of water over a half-mile stretch of a levee near U.S. 136 and overtopping at various points to the north of that area, said Mark Manchester, deputy director of emergency management for the county. He said the river level in the county had reached 44.6 feet, the highest on record and about 4 to 5 inches higher than 1993 flooding levels.

The water was flooding several thousand acres of farmland, but so far no homes had been inundated since a breach this past Monday caused about a dozen homes to take on water, Manchester said.

Because of the high waters, U.S. 136 was closing near the Missouri-Nebraska border.

He said residents in the area had already evacuated their homes, and officials who operate the levee went up in a helicopter and saw several "pretty good size holes starting to form."

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Since they won't have a tsunami on the Missouri, the cooling system will be intact. Presumably if they lose regular electric power they are equipped with adequate diesel generators. (If they aren't even ready with that, they are morons, so I'll assume they are ready.)

So cooling can continue of the spent fuel pools at Ft. Calhoun, although if the river water floods the fuel pool, perhaps some radioactivity may make contact with water flowing downstream -- or maybe not. Also the minerals in the water could possibly corrode the zircalloy coating on the fuel rods. One thing we don't have to worry about for a long time is that the rods will be dry exposed to air, although that becomes a big concern when the flood recedes!

I am concerned about the effect of river water on electronics operating the plant, especially for operating reactors. If those get flooded out, it could be a big mess and things go out of control.
 Quoting: oniongrass

btw..this thread is about the COOPER power station..please stop trying to CONFUSE the issue

that also goes for the person who posted the video from Ft. Calhoun...

Thanks for your cooperation

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Fort Calhoun has six high power lines feeding it - some coming off of a high hill adjacent that comes into the plant at a high angle (hence the no fly zone). Any one of those lines intact will fully power the cooling pools (per the press report in Council Bluffs IA newspaper). They also have generators and onsite fuel to last longer than a month. As to water they have several systems including sophisticated (flood proof) giant sandbags and a "water dam" that could hold back twice the current flood level. So baring a tsunami from a dam break all is well - IMO. They got their asses handed to them a year ago on the flood preps they had so they had been working on it all year - very providential. Don't believe all of the spin out in the blogosphere - I drive by the plant on my way into work every day and live downwind of the plant and have rad detectors - everything has been normal so far.
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Yeah but your looking at that ALL WRONG. See thats wrong laws of physics they teach in schools. Not the laws of physics where fire can melt steel and buildings can freefall straight down at the rate of gravity and can make un damaged buildings a block away fall down because of sympathy pains. Based on that it doesnt matter if you 25 electrical line and 100 diesel generators it will all fail!......................And not to mention I think in the event of an emergency they are actually designed to get there own power from the steam to keep cool BUT....that will not work either. Its like Bizarro murphys law. Anything that CAN go right is guaranteed to go wrong and go wrong miserably.
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recent aerial pic

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So that is a multi unit reactor... how many years of spent fuel are left in those bad boys???
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So that is a multi unit reactor... how many years of spent fuel are left in those bad boys???
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from what I understand it is much smaller than Ft Calhoun and the worst case scenario is also 'much less' then Ft. Calhoun but thats beside the point..

here is some more info from the wiki entry..

CNS was first put into operation in July 1974 and generates approximately 800 megawatts (MWe) of electricity. The plant consists of a General Electric BWR/4 series reactor plant and a Westinghouse turbine generator. The plant has a Mark I containment system.

In 1998, CNS was the first plant in the United States to load nuclear fuel containing uranium that had been provided under the Megatons to Megawatts Program, in which uranium removed from nuclear weapons of the former Soviet Union was turned into low-enriched uranium and then into fuel

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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TURN IT OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!
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TURN IT OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!
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if they do much of Omaha would probably be without power and the customers would complain..

I'm guessing they won't want all the questions a power outage would bring and would rather deal with a potential NUCLEAR MELTDOWN??

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TURN IT OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!
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if they do much of Omaha would probably be without power and the customers would complain..

I'm guessing they won't want all the questions a power outage would bring and would rather deal with a potential NUCLEAR MELTDOWN??

abomb1dunno1
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much easier to pretend the floods don't exist in other words...lala

nothing to worry about

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Doesn't matter whether the Fort Calhoun Plant is running or not, a Fukushima type event can still happen.

Thread: Nebraska's Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant: Emergency Level 4 & Getting Worse
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Holy cow, OP is the most narrow American I've encounter in my seven years on GLP

How the heck was I suppose to know the difference

Take your precious thread back and have a nice life :)
 Quoting: four winds

Sorry you feel that way but it was obvious imo from the title of the thread and from the info included in the original post..if you weren't aware that two nuke plants have flooded in Nebraska then you haven't been paying attention..

Ft. Calhoun potentially has 4-5 months to sort out the flooding issues..

Cooper NPS is still operating at FULL CAPACITY with imminent flash flooding LIKELY

If you think that is narrow mindedness then well FUCK YOU

it is two COMPLETELY separate issues imao
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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Just breaking on Sky - "An American nuclear plant in Nebraska issues a flood alert as the Missouri continues to rise".
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DOOOM ON!!!
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Complottheorie? Deze term wordt vooral gebruikt door mensen die niet willen dat bepaalde informatie en uitleg boven water komt, ondanks de feiten.
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Doesn't matter whether the Fort Calhoun Plant is running or not, a Fukushima type event can still happen.

Thread: Nebraska's Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant: Emergency Level 4 & Getting Worse
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Holy cow, OP is the most narrow American I've encounter in my seven years on GLP

How the heck was I suppose to know the difference

Take your precious thread back and have a nice life :)
 Quoting: four winds

Sorry you feel that way but it was obvious imo from the title of the thread and from the info included in the original post..if you weren't aware that two nuke plants have flooded in Nebraska then you haven't been paying attention..

Ft. Calhoun potentially has 4-5 months to sort out the flooding issues..

Cooper NPS is still operating at FULL CAPACITY with imminent flash flooding LIKELY

If you think that is narrow mindedness then well FUCK YOU

it is two COMPLETELY separate issues imao
 Quoting: RTS


Please I'm not your excuse of who you are

The Vid I posted made no distinctions about which plant it was

Anyway I know who wants what..Have a nice life :)
 Quoting: four winds


bs..it specified Ft. Calhoun

I suppose it is SORT of relevant in the long term but not really what this particular thread is about..

the consequences of a plant operating at full capacity vs. a plant in cold shut down is NOT comparable imao

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Re: Cooper Nuclear Station in Nebraska is operating AT FULL CAPACITY..partial levee breach three miles upriver
Didn't say that in the header maybe the guy mentioned it at some point

I do stuff besides helping your thread along I thought


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