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citizenperth
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When he is not playing nice i don't see any Points
in being Fair!

How this Guy can be so rude?
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


it seems like someone has not read the terms of service agreement....
i would argue the removal of this user under the conditions of fair use, and illegal activities, that may illicit further complications within the terms and conditions as agreed to on the outset of agreement, and that there is a definitive display and evidence of behavior eluding to and evidencing as such ....

to place user names and locations is illegal.

to slur user names and comments in a slurring manner is against the TAC

further, to make claims of harm against another user is not only illegal, but dangerous

the above is documented in chat

whilst not the largest mind in the world, i do believe these still are rights and need to be addressed...

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You can argue points all day, just don't get into personal information(which you have many times over the last year). That's not cool.

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You can argue points all day, just don't get into personal information. That's not cool.
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and thank you spud for looking into this straight up

i will not abide, nor tolerate, spurious, threatening commentary about personal others that place a fear over the internet based on a difference of opinion over the internet.

i will not have my personal details splashed all over the place by someone who does not know me, nor using my business details to cajole me into emancipated agreement.

These things are unacceptable on an adult conversational site, and need to be addressed.

thank you for your help.

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You can argue points all day, just don't get into personal information. That's not cool.
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But do you see what's going on here with that Guy
and a few other?

He started this rude behavior with calling me out,
creating Threads about me, going to other Forums
to mobilize People with the statement I am Pro-Nuke,
etc.

He should not play this Games when he is not in a Winning Position!
G.Y.!B.E.
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You've apparently admitted to being paid for your time and posts here by TEPCO.

Honestly, logically, can you not understand your own situation in regards to credibility?
First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do.
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He should not play this Games when he is not in a Winning Position!
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Both you and I are in the wrong hemisphere, we are the losers.
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i speak the truth so far as i find it
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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- Albert Einstein
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i speak the truth so far as i find it
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You sounds like a Molan Preacher!

You know nothing and didn't even understand the basics
of this Accident,
all you are doing is creating Fear, Distraction and Disinformation!
G.Y.!B.E.
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i speak the truth so far as i find it
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You sounds like a Molan Preacher!

You know nothing and didn't even understand the basics
of this Accident,
all you are doing is creating Fear, Distraction and Disinformation!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


yes, yes you are.. you're very boring btw..... but i like bumping you because you are a proffered shill and troll... and i like pointing out the poisonous lies you pour out about an ELE event... you are an evil man (or group of people as you have said)..... nice explain that to the children and families that are forced to still live near the Fuku reactor disaster you dick..... perhaps you can redirect to the TEPCO news release for today?

pffffftttt......
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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
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ermmm.. you forgot to mention how much you are paid per post.. would you like me to remind people.. or do you have the balls to do it yourself?
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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
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DPJ under fire from own members for approving reactivation of nuclear reactors
The decision by the government to approve the reactivation of idled nuclear reactors in Fukui Prefecture drew fire from legislators belonging to the ruling Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) in a recent meeting.

"The government is trying to resume operations at the plant too hastily," said one of the DPJ legislators.

The DPJ held a joint meeting between the party's economic and industrial panel, a project team on energy policy and a project team on nuclear accident countermeasures on April 17 to explain the government's decision to approve the resumption of operations at the No. 3 and 4 reactors of the Oi Nuclear Power Plant.
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"Our project team has concluded that it is premature to reactivate the reactors," he said. "The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."

[link to mainichi.jp]

World builds new nuclear power plants
Despite the fact that relating to the accident at the Japanese Fukushima nuclear power plant seriously undermined people's confidence in nuclear power up to the point of abandoning functioning nuclear projects, some countries on the contrary, want to build their own nuclear power plants.

According to the World Nuclear Association, of those contemplating to begin construction in the next five years, 29 countries of the world plan to begin construction in the next five years of 154 nuclear power blocks, but in the long term (construction will begin in the next 15 years), 36 countries want to increase this number to 342.

Among these countries is Turkey which is resolved to building a number of nuclear power plants. Thus, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Taner Yildiz said Turkey is in talks to build nuclear power plants with the three countries on three different models. Turkey has already signed an agreement with China, South Korea and Russia on the peaceful use of nuclear energy. The first Turkish nuclear power plant will be built on the Akkuyu site.

This means that Turkey will be the second country in the Middle East to have a nuclear power plant. Today, the Iranian Bushehr nuclear power plant is the one in Iran and throughout the Middle East. It will operate at full capacity (1,000 MW) in the early summer of this year and will produce from 720 to 730 megawatt hour which is 75 per cent of the final potential of the station.

Of the former Soviet Union countries, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Lithuania have plans to build nuclear power plants, while Ukraine and Russia, which already have 15 and 33 nuclear power plants, respectively, wish to increase their number.

[link to en.trend.az]

Nuclear power will remain important for Japan's energy needs: think tank
Nuclear power will continue to satisfy a "significant proportion" of the Japan's electricity demand in the future, despite the nuclear accident caused by last year's disasters, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit, an economic research body affiliated with the Economist magazine.

Martin Adams, energy editor for the think tank, said he detects a more favorable climate toward nuclear power in Japan and a realization that, given the country's scarce natural resources, nuclear energy has a role to play.

He said use of nuclear power in the country will remain at low levels for the next two years due to a mixture of continued inspections of reactors, "foot-dragging on restarts" and the likely decommissioning of some aging reactors.
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"Electricity generation from nuclear will not therefore recover to pre-Fukushima levels," he added. "Our forecast is for 30.6 gigawatts of nuclear capacity in 2020, down from 47.7 gigawatts in 2010 — a significant revision from the 61.2 gigawatts we forecast before Fukushima."

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

@ Cp.
she is dancing again and will come home with a new Boyfriend, both will be very noisy!

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 04/18/2012 05:47 AM
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Excuse me for butting in here again...


"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."


How does this make any sense whatsoever?

"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami" (right, nothing will happen from ANYthing if it is protected from it. ffs...)

"but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants." (groundless? so the tsunami damage of 2011 was purely fictional...and yes of course, to generalise about people saying nuclear is bad because of tsunamis makes us all fucking stupid... What a dumb fucking statement)
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Excuse me for butting in here again...


"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."


How does this make any sense whatsoever?

"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami" (right, nothing will happen from ANYthing if it is protected from it. ffs...)

"but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants." (groundless? so the tsunami damage of 2011 was purely fictional...and yes of course, to generalise about people saying nuclear is bad because of tsunamis makes us all fucking stupid... What a dumb fucking statement)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14309637

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DPJ under fire from own members for approving reactivation of nuclear reactors
The decision by the government to approve the reactivation of idled nuclear reactors in Fukui Prefecture drew fire from legislators belonging to the ruling Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) in a recent meeting.

"The government is trying to resume operations at the plant too hastily," said one of the DPJ legislators.

The DPJ held a joint meeting between the party's economic and industrial panel, a project team on energy policy and a project team on nuclear accident countermeasures on April 17 to explain the government's decision to approve the resumption of operations at the No. 3 and 4 reactors of the Oi Nuclear Power Plant.
---
"Our project team has concluded that it is premature to reactivate the reactors," he said. "The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."

[link to mainichi.jp]

World builds new nuclear power plants
Despite the fact that relating to the accident at the Japanese Fukushima nuclear power plant seriously undermined people's confidence in nuclear power up to the point of abandoning functioning nuclear projects, some countries on the contrary, want to build their own nuclear power plants.

According to the World Nuclear Association, of those contemplating to begin construction in the next five years, 29 countries of the world plan to begin construction in the next five years of 154 nuclear power blocks, but in the long term (construction will begin in the next 15 years), 36 countries want to increase this number to 342.

Among these countries is Turkey which is resolved to building a number of nuclear power plants. Thus, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Taner Yildiz said Turkey is in talks to build nuclear power plants with the three countries on three different models. Turkey has already signed an agreement with China, South Korea and Russia on the peaceful use of nuclear energy. The first Turkish nuclear power plant will be built on the Akkuyu site.

This means that Turkey will be the second country in the Middle East to have a nuclear power plant. Today, the Iranian Bushehr nuclear power plant is the one in Iran and throughout the Middle East. It will operate at full capacity (1,000 MW) in the early summer of this year and will produce from 720 to 730 megawatt hour which is 75 per cent of the final potential of the station.

Of the former Soviet Union countries, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Lithuania have plans to build nuclear power plants, while Ukraine and Russia, which already have 15 and 33 nuclear power plants, respectively, wish to increase their number.

[link to en.trend.az]

Nuclear power will remain important for Japan's energy needs: think tank
Nuclear power will continue to satisfy a "significant proportion" of the Japan's electricity demand in the future, despite the nuclear accident caused by last year's disasters, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit, an economic research body affiliated with the Economist magazine.

Martin Adams, energy editor for the think tank, said he detects a more favorable climate toward nuclear power in Japan and a realization that, given the country's scarce natural resources, nuclear energy has a role to play.

He said use of nuclear power in the country will remain at low levels for the next two years due to a mixture of continued inspections of reactors, "foot-dragging on restarts" and the likely decommissioning of some aging reactors.
---
"Electricity generation from nuclear will not therefore recover to pre-Fukushima levels," he added. "Our forecast is for 30.6 gigawatts of nuclear capacity in 2020, down from 47.7 gigawatts in 2010 — a significant revision from the 61.2 gigawatts we forecast before Fukushima."

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

@ Cp.
she is dancing again and will come home with a new Boyfriend, both will be very noisy!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


my mother is dead dip-shit.....

can you please remind the readers of how much tepco pay you per post atom boy.....

tasteless as always...

Last Edited by CitizenPerth on 04/18/2012 06:46 AM
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An angry alcoholic and a rambling pea brain .This thread should be shut down now.

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An angry alcoholic and a rambling pea brain .This thread should be shut down now.

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kittfukureta

i have cuter cats dip-shit

;)

shillyjp

and yes this thread is owned by atom-dude.. it does need to be ignored......

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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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Excuse me for butting in here again...


"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."


How does this make any sense whatsoever?

"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami" (right, nothing will happen from ANYthing if it is protected from it. ffs...)

"but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants." (groundless? so the tsunami damage of 2011 was purely fictional...and yes of course, to generalise about people saying nuclear is bad because of tsunamis makes us all fucking stupid... What a dumb fucking statement)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14309637


Don't ask me what make Sense and what not,
every single Plant and all around the World
should go Off-Line, not only in Japan but everywhere!

There is no Way to control this
and the dangers are toooooooo high,
spec. in Countries like Japan, Europe, Taiwan and India
where every singly Sq-Kilometer is occupied

"Post-Fukushima is Pre-InsertYourHometown"!


Edit: @ Cp: She drunk too much?

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 04/18/2012 06:57 AM
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Excuse me for butting in here again...


"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami, but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants."


How does this make any sense whatsoever?

"The government says no major accident will occur if they are protected from tsunami" (right, nothing will happen from ANYthing if it is protected from it. ffs...)

"but it is another (groundless) safety myth about nuclear plants." (groundless? so the tsunami damage of 2011 was purely fictional...and yes of course, to generalise about people saying nuclear is bad because of tsunamis makes us all fucking stupid... What a dumb fucking statement)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14309637


Don't ask me what make Sense and what not,
every single Plant and all around the World
should go Off-Line, not only in Japan but everywhere!

There is no Way to control this
and the dangers are toooooooo high,
spec. in Countries like Japan, Europe, Taiwan and India
where every singly Sq-Kilometer is occupied

"Post-Fukushima is Pre-InsertYourHometown"!


Edit: @ Cp: She drunk too much?
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


oh... god bless.. yer pretending to have a soul and not the money from TEPCO... you go atom think-tank......

people should be evacuated even today... stop stealing the attention to the real facts.....

edit : repost @atom-boy... my mother is dead you MOFA.... so i think out of shame YOU need to "go in front of a nightclub and dance for beers", as you suggest my mother does.... one day we will meet, it is destiny.... karma.... and i await it with a glint in my eye for you..... mr tepco shill... go and practice you shilling elsewhere.. you are making money from tepco as you state?...... evil little man then........

Last Edited by CitizenPerth on 04/18/2012 07:06 AM
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Tepco released more Material from Nr. 2.
[link to photo.tepco.co.jp]

7 more Videos too!
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Our Independent Citizen Radiation Measurement Station
released the last Weeks Measurements for Vegetables and Fruits
grown in the Tohoku Region, when you use the Bing Translator it works very well:
[link to www.crms-jpn.com]

Translated in English:
[link to www.microsofttranslator.com]
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A goof Read from the Mainstream!

Fukushima Daiichi: Inside the debacle
Into the Fire

In the first hours and days following the earthquake and tsunami, investigators have found TEPCO personnel made also critical mistakes—a couple of which are still unexplained.

One involved a critical piece of equipment, known as an isolation condenser, which keeps the water level in the reactor constant even if offsite electricity is lost. On the night of March 11, TEPCO operators at the plant site belatedly recognized that the system was not functioning, and then once they did, tried and failed to open up manually a valve that had been closed.

The assumption that the system was working delayed the decision to "vent", or depressurize, the reactor unit, a mistake that, in the eyes of the government's interim report, led to the first huge hydrogen explosion at reactor one the afternoon of March 12.

The independent Funabashi report also questions why it took seven hours from the time Prime Minister Kan approved the plan to vent to the first attempt to execute it. All the while, more hydrogen was leaking into the reactor building.

Conditions inside the plant—and confusion just outside of it— may have precluded swifter action.

Yoshida had ordered his team to make preparations to vent reactors one and two shortly after midnight, and Kan, the Prime Minister, approved the plan at around 1:30am.

But there was no procedure to operate the vent valves without power, so Yoshida's operators had to figure out on the fly how to do so manually—and then take potentially fatal risks to try to make it work.

At the same time, the government wanted to make sure residents who still remained in the area around of the plant were evacuated. It would be several hours before that happened, in part because the residents had no idea in which direction they were to flee.

Shortly after 9 in the morning of March 12, Yoshida dispatched the two teams. Both had volunteered to go into the reactor, knowing that radiation levels were dangerously high. Each headed to different sections to open critical valves.

The first team succeeded and quickly withdrew. But as the second team entered, their "dose rates" — their exposure to radiation—immediately spiked. One of the operators was instantly exposed to 106 millisieverts of radiation, above the 100 "emergency dose limit" mandated by TEPCO.

The team was pulled out immediately, having failed to open the necessary valves to reduce pressure in the reactor. It took until 2:30 that afternoon—almost 24 hours after the earthquake —for venting of reactor one to commence.

Just over an hour later, at 3:36, the massive explosion shook the site.

Over the next three days, two more hydrogen blasts followed, one at reactor three, and one at unit four, which had been offline at the time of the tsunami.

In the desperate days just after the accident, there was no single event or decision that brought the situation back from the brink. Yoshida's decision to ignore the order against spraying seawater was important. The eventual ability of the Japanese military, police and fire department units, using multiple water cannons and fire trucks, to get to the site and douse it with seawater prevented the crisis from becoming even worse.

If there was a making-it-up-as-they-went-along quality to the effort, it's because they were: the defense forces didn't even have a site map for Fukushima Daiichi when its personnel first arrived.

Still, starting from about March 17, Kan told Fortune he felt "we were creating a defense line, we were pushing back against the enemy.'' Radiation levels, while still high, had stopped increasing. Days later some electricity was finally restored to the site.

But it would be a long time before Kan or anyone else felt any sense of relief. On July 19th, TEPCO said it believed it had stabilized the temperature inside the reactors -- an important step toward the goal of "cold shutdown." That was the first day, Kan says, when he could effectively exhale, when he thought "the worst was over."

The Funabashi commission report points out in withering detail that the Japanese government never gave its citizens a realistic sense of just how long it would take to get control of the disabled plant, nor what the ongoing risks were as radiation continued to be emitted from the site. Arguably, it still hasn't.

On December 16, Kan's successor, Yoshihiko Noda, announced that the stricken reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station had reached "a state of cold shutdown." Japan's worst-ever nuclear accident, the Prime Minister said, had finally been brought under control.

The moment was meant to be a calming milestone, psychological balm for a wounded country in the process of trying to heal. The only problem with it, as workers today at the nuclear power plant, will tell you, is this: it wasn't true then, and it's still not true today. "The coolant water is keeping the reactor temperatures at a certain level, but that's not even near the goal [of a cold shut down,]" says an engineer working inside the plant. "The fact is, we still don't know what's going on inside the reactors."


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Please look the first Numbers on the left Side
above the Pic to see the Radiation Measurement!

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INTERVIEW/ YOICHI FUNABASHI: Fukushima nuclear crisis revealed Japan's governing defects
The first report by a private-sector committee investigating the accident at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, which was announced earlier this week, has drawn wide international attention for its detailed research that digs out many facts about what had really happened at the plant.

The report was put together by the Independent Investigation Commission on the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Accident, a committee of the Rebuild Japan Initiative Foundation, led by Yoichi Funabashi, a former editor in chief of The Asahi Shimbun.

In an interview on Feb. 29, Funabashi presented his view that the Japan-U.S. alliance was in a crisis situation in the first week after the Fukushima nuclear accident. He also expressed understanding for the sense of fear that former Prime Minister Naoto Kan felt about the possibility Japan would have to come under the control of the United States and Russia if it was unable to handle the accident by itself.

(Details of the report are available in stories at: private panel-1, private panel-2, editorial )

Interesting and a must Read, with links to this Report:
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France's Areva offers to reprocess spent Fukushima fuel
French nuclear energy giant Areva on Friday offered to reprocess in France some of the spent nuclear fuel currently in cooling pools at Japan's stricken Fukushima plant.

"We have proposed that France play a role in withdrawing" the spent fuel, Areva chief executive Luc Oursel told journalists in Tokyo.

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Restarting of reactors other than Oi before summer unlikely
Industry minister Yukio Edano suggested Friday that it would be difficult to restart reactors other than two offline reactors at the Oi nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture before the summer, given the delay in establishing a new nuclear regulatory agency.

On the reactivation of reactors other than the two at Oi, Edano told a press conference, "I think we should wait for the launch of the new regulatory agency." Asked if it would be difficult to restart the remaining reactors before the summer, he said, "It would be as you can imagine."

Since the Fukushima nuclear crisis triggered by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, no Japanese reactors have resumed operation after being shut down for mandatory periodic checks, and the two Oi reactors are the first being considered for reactivation by the central government.

Among reactors other than the two operated by Kansai Electric Power Co., the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency approved the results of the first round of reactor stress tests on the No. 3 reactor of Shikoku Electric Power Co.'s Ikata plant in Ehime Prefecture in March.

But the Nuclear Safety Commission has yet to check the agency's evaluation, a process necessary for resuming operation of reactors idled for routine checkups.

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3 Fukushima farmers seeking 3.4 billion yen for decontamination ask for mediation
Three rice farmers in Nihonmatsu, Fukushima Prefecture, and elsewhere on April 20 asked for mediation for an out-of-court settlement as they seek around 3.4 billion yen for field decontamination fees and other purposes.

The farmers asked for mediation from a center for settling disputes on compensation for nuclear-related losses. The three farm 10 to 40 hectares of land located 57 to 82 kilometers from the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant

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"Tepco increased amount of water to inject to reactor 2 from 5:00 to 11:00 on 4/20/2012...
The increased amount of water 0.3 m3/h leaks out of the container vessel directly"

delivered by Mochizuki Iori : Fukushima-Bullshit

hXXp://fukushima-dairy.com/2012/04/tepco-increased-water-inje​ction-amount-to-reactor-2/

bring it Atom-Tepco-Boy.... let's see you try to debunk this one... (direct translation)


and as this is true... we have a really dire situation indeed, as the water leak would be extremely toxic... and where does it go hmmmm?

and with all this water injecting over the last 12 months, where has it all gone?.....

oh and btw if we do some math 30cm3/h x 24 hours is 7.20 meters cubed per day...

50 m3 per week
216 m3 per month
assuming this has been the case since the explosion and only accounting for 10 months?
2160 m3 of highly... highly radioactive water, in just unit 2....

dire indeed...
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I am so damned tired of this Child-play, Mr. Talkaloto 7/11 ltana dead
you cant do your Calculation without the Numbers,
how much of this Water is in the Cooling Circle,
how much of this additional 3 Cubic-Meter of Water is
recycled or Evaporated because of the Heat and how much is lost, you stupid piece of .....

Also have a look, i do not know if Australians owned a Bathtube,
i doubt this but let us be fair
and assume that they have one-
"how much Water is needed to fill her up"?

Isn't 3 Cubic-Meter Peanuts when you see the Volume/ Size
of the the whole Containment!
* At 9:32 am on April 20, 2012, because the decrease of the volume of injected water to the Unit 2's reactor, we adjusted the injected water volume from Core Spray System from approx. 2.6 m3/h to approx. 3.0 m3/h (we have kept the injected water volume from reactor feed water system at approx. 6.0 m3/h)


Here this is from yesterday afternoon in Tokyo:


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"Tepco increased amount of water to inject to reactor 2 from 5:00 to 11:00 on 4/20/2012...
The increased amount of water 0.3 m3/h leaks out of the container vessel directly"

delivered by Mochizuki Iori : Fukushima-Bullshit

hXXp://fukushima-dairy.com/2012/04/tepco-increased-water-inje​ction-amount-to-reactor-2/

bring it Atom-Tepco-Boy.... let's see you try to debunk this one... (direct translation)


and as this is true... we have a really dire situation indeed, as the water leak would be extremely toxic... and where does it go hmmmm?

and with all this water injecting over the last 12 months, where has it all gone?.....

oh and btw if we do some math 30cm3/h x 24 hours is 7.20 meters cubed per day...

50 m3 per week
216 m3 per month
assuming this has been the case since the explosion and only accounting for 10 months?
2160 m3 of highly... highly radioactive water, in just unit 2....

dire indeed...
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I am so damned tired of this Child-play, Mr. Talkaloto 7/11 ltana dead
you cant do your Calculation without the Numbers,
how much of this Water is in the Cooling Circle,
how much of this additional 3 Cubic-Meter of Water is
recycled or Evaporated because of the Heat and how much is lost, you stupid piece of .....

Also have a look, i do not know if Australians owned a Bathtube,
i doubt this but let us be fair
and assume that they have one-
"how much Water is needed to fill her up"?

Isn't 3 Cubic-Meter Peanuts when you see the Volume/ Size
of the the whole Containment!
* At 9:32 am on April 20, 2012, because the decrease of the volume of injected water to the Unit 2's reactor, we adjusted the injected water volume from Core Spray System from approx. 2.6 m3/h to approx. 3.0 m3/h (we have kept the injected water volume from reactor feed water system at approx. 6.0 m3/h)


Here this is from yesterday afternoon in Tokyo:

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Goodmorning! oh, pathetic shill! TEPCO up late today? busy at a briefing?

can't do the maths that since at least 10 months ago, water that was never meant to see the light of day has leaked from at least one containment to the size of an olympic swimming pool?..... duh... i sooper cooo....

bathtubs.... yeah right....

shl

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@ Mr. Talkaloto,

i see that you do not understand/ maybe even don't know
that this Water is in "Circulation", this Water do
not disappear, in fact it get collected, filtered,
recycled, again and again to be finally stored in Tanks!

You need to learn a lot Mr. Talkaloto 7/11 ltana dead bananasex angel4
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MAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

sry for the sarcastic mirth......


pretty diagram tho.....

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