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Message Subject Thread to discuss CURRENT events at Fukushima Nr. 2
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In areas in the Ukraine, the cesium levels have increased rather than decreased. They dont know why but the "half/life" seems to be more then thought.

Its not hard to look up some statistics about the effects of chernobyl on health and cancer rates, especially the effects on children. Leaukemia (acute) is awfully high, in the Ukraine today, after all this time.

What I was trying to get across, but failed, was that the sheer amount of nuclear fuel that has been disspersed to the enviroment ALLREADY is just enormous. It defies belief that people havebt come to terms with or can see that.

The future effects of all this radiation, will be VERY visible in the next "couple" of years.

There is no doubt, no question at all, that evacuations will extend many MANY kilometres out of fukushima.

Thats the trouble with radiation. It takes time, and an accumalation of particles to cause cancer.

Depending on "what" you have recieved and in what quantities, varies as to how quick you develop cancers.

They are allready reporting multibles of different types of cancers within the one patient, many times over.
Because this is happening so quickly, instead of next year or the year after that, says very clearly that the rate of absorbtion of radioactive particles is extremely high.

Plutonium is another kettle of fish alltogeather. Plutonium is "one" of the most deadly substances known to man, many many times more "poisoness" than "plain old" uranium, (uraniums half life is measured in millions of years)

Number 3 I think was the "mox" fuelled reactor that blew sky high. Its entire inventory of plutonium/uranium mix was turned instantly to tiny tiny little particles. And disspersed high in the sky, these little babies have coated entire forests and the landscape at large. It is hard for me to put this in any other words.

The culmative affect of all this disspersion, is that huge areas of land are now PERMANANTLY contaminated. Every time a single molecule of water is drawn up out of the ground, it will carry any number of radioactive particles with it, and then wherever the wind blows.

It is easy to "smile" and blissfully be unaware. And I certainly dont want anybody to think that I think less of you for it. It is hard to bury ones head in the soil.

The mutations and dying off of plants and trees in Japan is really only the "start" of what is to come.

There is no such thing as "decontamination" of radionuclides from such a vast area of land. It is simply impossible. Back in world war two (and Im sorry to use this analogy, please forgive me) Your head of government at the time new that war against America was futile. But he was pressured into attacking by heads of industry. He was quoted at the time as saying that Japan would "run wild" for six to twevle months, after that, nobody knew.

I cant remember if it was "Yamamoto" or whoever, the point is that so called "decontamination" in the style your government seems to be attempting is the same as going to war against something that cannot be beaten. All they will end up with is a lot of dead "de-contaminators"

When we turn on a light switch and the light comes on from the electricity, we "see" the electricity in the form of light.radiation is not entirely invisible. With the correct equipment it can be "seen" using special aparatus.

Where scientists have "looked" in japan so far, hundreds and hundreds of square kilometers are "glowing" or "twinkling" there is really that much "damage" out there.
To even think of "cleaning this mess up" is quite frankly absurd. Its like saying your going to capture all the air, or you are going to dig up all the ground.

When they show you pressure cleaning of roadside curbing to "decontaminate" remember this, a radioactive particle is so small that they dont just blow in the air and gently land on the curb, but rather they will land INSIDE the curb! the only way to "clean" is to remove! So what are they going to do? are they going to dig up the entire nation of Japan and deposit it in the ocean? of course not.

We are talking here of huge concepts, because thats what they are. Massive, absolutely massive damage has allready been inflicted on Japan, and continues to today.

When they talk of trillions of bequerals, remember that we number 7 billion, one trillion radioactive isotopes spread out over one billion is really like saying you just killed everyone in the world several times over.

The number of radioactive isotopes being produced EVERY HOUR SINCE MARCH 11 is astronomical.

We can "smile" and pretend everything is going to be ok, I can smile and pretend my mother does not have cancer, its not really going to help though is it?

I undertsand your wish that in a few years everything will be back to normal. And can identify with the feelings of doom and gloom, and also the need to keep up a "stiff upper lip"

At the end of the day, reality allways wins out. And the reality in Japan is so bad, so unspeakably bad that your own government is doing all it can to not say anything.
This much should tell you.
At the end of the war for Berlin, the german government was telling the people that the enemy was on the run, even while the soviets were fighting street to street!
Its what a govenrment does when it doesnt know what to do. they lie. They say anything they can to hold off the awfull truth that they have "failed"
Just as the italian captain, who climbing into the liferaft, was living at that moment in denial.

Please understand I dont wish to cause you any anxiety or worry or fear.

The nuclear industry has done that all by itself.

Peace........................
 
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