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Message Subject Thread to discuss CURRENT events at Fukushima Nr. 2
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Protesting nuclear power
Thousands of demonstrators took to the streets of Yokohama the weekend of Jan. 14-15
to show their support for a nuclear power-free world.

Organizers of the Global Conference for a Nuclear Power Free World claimed
6,000 participants from some 30 countries on the first day and 5,500 on the second.
Newspaper reports put the number closer to 2,000.

Whatever the actual numbers,
including a no-doubt large Internet audience for the live broadcast,
the conference showed that organized opposition to nuclear power
has gained momentum in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear plant crisis.

The conference shows all the signs of turning into a coherent,
focused movement.

For a movement to have impact, though, it needs more than people in parks — it also needs viable ideas.

This conference had both.
Rather than calling the weekend a "protest" or "rally," they called it a "conference."

And rather than demanding an immediate ban, they called for transitions toward a nuclear-free world.
That softer, more sensible approach is more likely to succeed.

Less than 50% [link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

It's coming, slow but in a typical Japanese Way,
not blind and Violent, instead creative and POWERFULL hf

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User ID: 9273372

i was looking last night for the Arnie Statement that SFP Nr. 3 is gone,
can you point it out for me because A. Gundersen is
the only one from the alternative Media i still believe!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


On a different computer again, for now I will identify myself as GEZZA. (accronym)

I am absolutely sure I saw a video by arnie where he viewed the high definition photos especially of number 3 reactor (side view and above)

The photos clearly show massive damage DIRECTLY above the sfp, where the roofing rafters were in comeplete dissaray, or rather basicly a bloody great hole ABOVE the sfp. In comparison the roofing rafters above the rest of the building, although distroyed, were still "there".

I may well be "slightly wrong" in saying the sfp is not "there" anymore. Though I distinctly recall arnie talking about fuel rods (peices of) being found up to a mile away. Arnie went to great lenghs to explain how the initial hydrogen explosion "compacted" the sfp rods togeather causing a "prompt criticality" while TEPCOS theory stated hydogen gas "found" its way to the number 3 building by travelling DOWN and along pipes into the building. Which is a typical bullshit analysis from TEPCO.

I have also seen high res photos or "stills" taken from video which camera was located on the end of the mobile water injecting crane. The photos looked through the huge hole above the sfp, and I remember people being surprised by the fact that amongst the debris, only ONE fuel assembly rack holder ( a sought of squareish handle looking thing) was visible. Arnie said that this was "concerning" as there should have been thousands of these "handles"

Further more, it has been released today that the radiation from number 3 is increasing substancially. The thing to remember here is that there was no fuel in the number 3 reactor, as it was very maintained and refueled, everything was in the sfp!

So, the explosion that occured, was a direct result of the sfp being emptied of water, overheating and the zirconium cladding reacting with oxygen. You should probably be aware by now that when the zirconium reacts it releases or basicly produces hydrogen. This is why they were pumping in nitrogen to stop the air (oxygen) mixing with the hydrogen, causing (guess what) a hydrogen explosion.

Arnie has also explained the difference between a hydrogen explosion as compared to a prompt criticality. With hydrogen having a "slow burning" or below the speed of sound explosion. While we all know when we saw the footage, that "whatever" blew up, did so big time. I am quite at ease believing in the "nuclear detonation" theory as this really is the only thing that makes sense.

Its a case of balistics. In order for a projectile to travel a mile distance, it MUST leave its point of departure, at a given rate of knots, in order to "fight" against gravity, to reach its destination. The ONLY way a peice of fuel rod is going to "depart" from the sfp and "fly" through the air, a mile distant, is through a DETONATION rather than a hydrogen explosion.

It is plain to see, through watching number 1, 4, 3, explode, (I hope I got those numbers right) that the number 3 explosion was a very different affair than the others.

After all it was a completly massive explosion filmed from over twenty kilometeres away, rising directly straight up, with huge chunks of debris. When compared with the others which were clearly, although large, very "muffled" affairs.
The number 3 explosion was basicly identical to the atomic tests carried out in nevada, and filmed by the military from (guess what) twenty kilometeres away!

All this tells me that even if the sfp inventory is "still there" its not in any way recoverable nor containable.

It is a disaster.

Not long ago an "explosion" occured at a facility in france. Three people died. Workers were "cooking" or burning nuclear waste materials in a industrial "oven" What basicly happened was that one lot of waste put into the oven contained "X" amount of radiation, and when they put in some more waste containing "X" amount, in the oven enough radioactive activity was reached to create a "flash" situation, so there was a miniture "prompt criticality"

One of the workers was "carbonised"

This means what it infers, our human bodies aere supposedly made up of 95% water 5% carbon. So guess what this means?

Yep, you guessed it!! all that was left of this man was (oh I hate to say this) a shadow of his former self!!!

They did not perform a autopsy as there was nothing left! they buried his "remains" in a lead lined coffin.

Now can you imagine we are talking here about overalls, gloves, goggles, and other such "low level" waste. This is what they were dispposing of.

Now times that by perhaps a billion or more!!! A spent fuel pool, full to the hilt, of thousands of highly radioctive fuel rods, including plutonium, all pressed togeather instantly?? Can you see the correlation here?

This is what im tring to get at here. I hope you understand, im not in any way an expert, everything I have picked about all things nuclear, I have done since march 11/11 And in no way do I believe a word from TEPCO, other than the fact that whatever they say you can times by a hundred.

Oh Ive read before but it didnt sink in till I read it again today. The cedar trees in japan, have tested positive, to 250,000 calculations per sec, per kilogramme, in the male trees. Im still trying to imagine whats going to happen when they all flower and dissperse their pollen at such a rate. They were talking about 2800 square kilometeres of forest!!!

Its all about internal radiation, breathing it in, and the effects on women and children.

The Japanese government and TEPCO are well aware of whats happening both now, and what is to come. Atomboy, please understand, the future of your country is at stake.
If I lived there I would be joining these so called "conferances"

Allreday there are MAJOR deformaties in plants and animals, for thousands if not millions of people, the damage has ALLREADY begun. It takes time, and the more you breathe in the more you accumalte, the higher and higher the "chances" of cancer, deformed babies etc.

Your Japan will not be recognisable in five years time. This is the reality.

I have posted to "yours" and others threads since the "beggining" and will continue to. I watched "live" as the great tsnuami sweapt over towns and cities, as shocked as I were, nothing compared me for the next lot of news. Fukushima. I recognisde straight away, that I was watching the beginning of the beginning of the end of Japan, and I have morbidly watched ever since. I am not stupid. I can see with my eyes, I have not been able shake my dissbelief at the seemingly ineptitude of both TEPCO and your government. But then I think, "what else can they do??"

I understand intimately the reality, I know what is to come. Radiation is death to ALL living cells. It does not discriminate btween animals and humans, the old or the young. It is a violent and callous murderer of life.

I know this is doom and gloom, and I understand the need to not "dwell" I also know what cancer does to a family.

All the best.
 
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