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*** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links

 
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When the Dosimeters Were Screeching
[link to rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com]

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“I must admit when I started reporting this film I expected the story to be about radiation deaths,” said Dan Edge, the filmmaker. “It just isn’t the case, at least not yet.

About 100 people were exposed to dangerous and possibly carcinogenic levels of radiation, the film says.

Our reporting suggests that, given the crisis and the extreme conditions over the first few days, radiation doses among the workers were handled carefully by Tepco and their affiliates,” said Mr. Edge, referring to the Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operated the reactor complex.


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Yeah, right. 'Handled carefully' so no one would know what was going on...

That documentary is shit.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I know it sounds hard but let us be a little bit Rational,
in the first Hours after the Eq and the Tsunami a real Communication was impossible,
in the Evening of 03/11 they evacuated the first Line around the Plant and Hours later the second and third,
ca. 400.000 People left their Homes and 180.000 showed up
in a Emergency Shelter, "unharmed", for them this Evacuation worked very well!

The People in the West still do not understand that the Communication Lines do not worked, Roads was blocked
and Energy Lines broken, that "only" ca. 150 People got "Contaminated" is a Miracle and we should be happy
that it was not more Humans!

The People inside the Plant done nothing Heroic,
they just followed their Protocol
and observed the Dosimeter very well!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy



There is a requirement that the SPEEDI system be implemented for every nuclear plant in the event of release. It only works if it is used...
It was not. People were exposed to the plume needlessly.

This was criminal action by Tepco and controllers.

If they had heeded their own scientists who warned that the tsunami protection was inadequate, the meltdowns wouldn't have happened in the first place. Can't blame that on anyone else.

Tepco and the Japanese government lied to their own people and to the world about what was happening at the plants and continued lying long afterwards. They refused to do follow-up biopsies on children with thyroid lumps.

The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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Nuke regulators ask: What if dams fail?
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“I must admit when I started reporting this film I expected the story to be about radiation deaths,” said Dan Edge, the filmmaker. “It just isn’t the case, at least not yet.

About 100 people were exposed to dangerous and possibly carcinogenic levels of radiation, the film says.

Our reporting suggests that, given the crisis and the extreme conditions over the first few days, radiation doses among the workers were handled carefully by Tepco and their affiliates,” said Mr. Edge, referring to the Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operated the reactor complex.


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Yeah, right. 'Handled carefully' so no one would know what was going on...

That documentary is shit.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I know it sounds hard but let us be a little bit rational,
in the first Hours after the Eq and the Tsunami a real communication was impossible,
in the Evening of 03/11 they evacuated the first line around the Plant and Hours later the second and third,
ca. 400.000 People left their Homes and 180.000 showed up
in a Emergency Shelter, "unharmed", for them this Evacuation worked very well!

The People in the West still do not understand that the Communication Lines do not worked, Roads was blocked
and Energy Lines broken, that "only" ca. 150 People got "Contaminated" is a Miracle and we should be happy
that it was not more Humans!

The People inside the Plant done nothing Heroic,
they just followed their Protocol
and observed the Dosimeter very well!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy



There is a requirement that the SPEEDI system be implemented for every nuclear plant in the event of release. It only works if it is used...
It was not. People were exposed to the plume needlessly.

This was criminal action by Tepco and controllers.

If they had heeded their own scientists who warned that the tsunami protection was inadequate, the meltdowns wouldn't have happened in the first place. Can't blame that on anyone else.

Tepco and the Japanese government lied to their own people and to the world about what was happening at the plants and continued lying long afterwards. They refused to do follow-up biopsies on children with thyroid lumps.

The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I concure.. Atom boy.. time and time again you chirp in with some form of deliverence of information that either fence sits, or is in form of one belief or the other...


Please don't waste time in me dragging up you contest of pro- "it's ok", vs your "wow, it's bad stuff".....

your conversation on the net reaks of misinformation, and distrust....

i have logged evidence of your partialised and pro-nuclear view.. and am happy to share it with all and sundry.

I also believe that there are multiple users given the spin under different partialities on the same topic at hand.

I would like to put you to task as to your agenda.

I will post agaist any forward as to your response as I feel that you are a an imposter as to real news and protection for the people that suffer

I call you out as a charleton and a fool

Prove me wrong

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NRC presents Wolf Creek inspection results
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Single pill for radiation decontamination
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From Japan, Bearing Witness in Debate Over Indian Point
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His job[Kitajima]is to read radiation meters worn by the 3,000 people trying to clean up its lethally contaminated remnants. The most dangerous work is done at night, he said, after the main shifts are gone. A crew of 20 men is sent to pick up the irradiated rubble. Practically none of the men have families, much education or regular employment. They have no experience working in nuclear power plants. He compared them to day laborers in America. Within a few months, they accumulate what is regarded as the maximum safe dosage of radiation for four years, Mr. Kitajima said.

“Then they bring in new ones,” he said. “Everybody kind of admits to themselves that these are expendable people.”

Mr. Kitajima, who had left the cafe for work at the plant, said he was once part of a political movement that opposed construction of nuclear plants, but had dropped out. “The risk of working there is what I’ve done to atone for my lack of involvement,” he said. “We are trying to scoop the ocean with a cup.”
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Evacuated children, urine test positive for cesium
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130 million Bq of cesium has leaked to Tokyo bay in Yokohama
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“Pu 239 will be detected at high doses”
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Quake severity estimate for Tsuruga nuclear plant to be reassessed
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The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency plans to call on Japan Atomic Power Co. to reassess its worst-case scenario for an earthquake at its Tsuruga nuclear power plant in light of new research showing a bigger-than-expected quake could strike the plant in Fukui Prefecture, agency officials said Tuesday.
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Fukushima nuclear crisis was preventable: U.S. experts
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"Had the plant owner, Tokyo Electric Power Co., and Japan's regulator, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, followed international best practices and standards, it is conceivable that they would have predicted the possibility of the plant being struck by a massive tsunami," they said.
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Fukushima toxic water could still be leaking into sea
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The group of researchers, which includes Michio Aoyama of the Meteorological Research Institute, warned that the concentration of radioactive cesium in the plants’ area is declining slower than expected, according to Kyodo.


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Maybe that's why they won't allow anyone to take samples for analysis within 30k of the coast .

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130 million Bq of cesium has leaked to Tokyo bay in Yokohama
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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This is the maximum of a "Possibility"
but there is no source which show
us the real Dosage of Radioactive Materials!
(i checked the original Source)
G.Y.!B.E.
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The People with a high Interest should have a look for:
[link to kouikishori.env.go.jp]
to get the "Official" Explanation of this Burnings,
Non-Japanese need to use a Google Translator for example!

Here you can see the "Official Average"
[link to kouikishori.env.go.jp]
G.Y.!B.E.
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130 million Bq of cesium has leaked to Tokyo bay in Yokohama
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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This is the maximum of a "Possibility"
but there is no source which show
us the real Dosage of Radioactive Materials!
(i checked the original Source)
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


I need to correct my Statement,
in my Theory it was not really right!

But EX-SKF posted today:
Yokohama City Stopped Using Zeolite after Only One Month at Its Final Disposal Site on Tokyo Bay

Yokohama City, which has been dumping the radioactive ashes with low radioactivity from burning household garbage at its final disposal landfill (Minami Honmoku) on Tokyo Bay since September last year, has said the runoff water is safely treated by the cesium absorption towers with zeolite.

Well they lied. They used the absorption towers for one month and stopped using them, but never bothered to tell they stopped using them.

In one month, they used 5500 kilograms of zeolite, which absorbed 5000 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium. In other words, 27.5 million becquerels of radioactive cesium was effectively caught. So the city thought "Oh that's good", and stopped using zeolite.


[link to ex-skf.blogspot.com]
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My fear isn't losing the luxuries of life, even toilet paper, lol. My fear is that without power we lose our ability to keep all these killer nuclear plants cooled.

Death is inevitable regardless of environmental factors, that doesn't frighten me. It's the slow and painful death of all of mankind as a consequence of foolish actions.
 Quoting: TS66


I couldn't agree more, TS.

400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, EMP, and Nuclear Armageddon-


There are nearly 450 nuclear reactors in the world, with hundreds more either under construction or in the planning stages. There are 104 of these reactors in the USA and 195 in Europe. Imagine what havoc it would wreak on our civilization and the planet’s ecosystems if we were to suddenly witness not just one or two nuclear melt-downs but 400 or more! How likely is it that our world might experience an event that could ultimately cause hundreds of reactors to fail and melt down at approximately the same time? I venture to say that, unless we take significant protective measures, this apocalyptic scenario is not only possible but probable.

[link to whentechfails.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Great link Hugh. Good detail about the spent fuel storage issues. I'm going to post this link on Waterbug's thread as well.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Pretty big solar storm this week so I thought I'd pass this on.
"Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
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My fear isn't losing the luxuries of life, even toilet paper, lol. My fear is that without power we lose our ability to keep all these killer nuclear plants cooled.

Death is inevitable regardless of environmental factors, that doesn't frighten me. It's the slow and painful death of all of mankind as a consequence of foolish actions.
 Quoting: TS66


I couldn't agree more, TS.

400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, EMP, and Nuclear Armageddon-


There are nearly 450 nuclear reactors in the world, with hundreds more either under construction or in the planning stages. There are 104 of these reactors in the USA and 195 in Europe. Imagine what havoc it would wreak on our civilization and the planet’s ecosystems if we were to suddenly witness not just one or two nuclear melt-downs but 400 or more! How likely is it that our world might experience an event that could ultimately cause hundreds of reactors to fail and melt down at approximately the same time? I venture to say that, unless we take significant protective measures, this apocalyptic scenario is not only possible but probable.

[link to whentechfails.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Great link Hugh. Good detail about the spent fuel storage issues. I'm going to post this link on Waterbug's thread as well.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Pretty big solar storm this week so I thought I'd pass this on.
 Quoting: Southern OR




Thanks, SO. This is the pressing issue aside from spent fuel disposal and storage.

We may be able to withstand and survive Fuku but multiple meltdowns all over the globe would saturate the atmosphere to the point of an ELE.

Man-made mechanical systems can and will fail at the worst time. Nuclear tech is not immune to failure. Add
unforseeable natural disasters and you have a recipe for catastrophe.

We are sitting on the precipice of an armageddon of our own design. When will we overcome our arrogance?

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Futaba Town asks TEPCO to compensate damage
Futaba Town, Fukushima Prefecture, has demanded that the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant pay about 211 million dollars as compensation for damage caused to the township.

Mayor Katsutaka Idogawa on Thursday handed an invoice to Naomi Hirose, managing director of Tokyo Electric Power Company, at a makeshift town hall inside an evacuation center in Saitama Prefecture.
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Quake focus to be shallower than estimated
A government team of earthquake experts says an expected powerful earthquake in northern Tokyo Bay would have a focus shallower than earlier estimated.

The shallower the focus, the stronger the estimated quake. The team says the quake would register 7 on the Japanese seismic scale of zero to 7.

The group, which includes scientists from the University of Tokyo, released on Wednesday a report after a five-year study commissioned by the government.
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I am interviewing Mochizuki Iori on Saturday as a delayed web cast for the aniversary of Fukushima

For those that don't know, he is considered a nuclear nomad and is the author of fukushim-diary.com

Will let you know when the edit is done, as we are considering collaborating on his journey and events.... :)
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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check this out.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
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I am interviewing Mochizuki Iori on Saturday as a delayed web cast for the aniversary of Fukushima

For those that don't know, he is considered a nuclear nomad and is the author of fukushim-diary.com

Will let you know when the edit is done, as we are considering collaborating on his journey and events.... :)
 Quoting: citizenperth


Awesome!

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check this out.....
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Damn. What are they thinking?

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Jaczko: NRC might not meet deadline to impose nuke safety reforms
[link to thehill.com]

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Jaczko has clashed with his fellow colleagues over how quickly the commission should implement the new rules. Some commissioners have called for a cost-benefit analysis of each recommendation.
Jaczko said Wednesday that he disagreed with the need to conduct such analyses, noting that both the federal task force and NRC staff have said that implementation of the rules should not be affected by cost.

“I believe, consistent with what the staff of the agency has recommended, that these changes are necessary to prevent a Fukushima-type accident,” Jaczko said.

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Since when does the safety of citizens require a cost-benefit analysis?

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check this out.....
 Quoting: citizenperth




Damn. What are they thinking?

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same thing from day one sadly to say
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
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From: Thread: Millions of new cases of cancer in the Northern Hemisphere from Fukushima catastrophe

Thanks, Rainman

Feb 24.

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The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i did not saw, i am sorry!

Just wanted to tell you that i am here,
we can start Bombing as soon as you are prepared!

I don't mind you anymore,
because you are a Ignorant who don't face "Reality"
and as long as you provide wrong Information i will correct this (when it is possible)

And remember: We can change to a English native Speaker
and we can post 24/7 because we are Legion popcorn

G.Y.!B.E.
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The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i did not saw, i am sorry!

Just wanted to tell you that i am here,
we can start Bombing as soon as you are prepared!

I don't mind you anymore,
because you are a Ignorant who don't face "Reality"
and as long as you provide wrong Information i will correct this (when it is possible)

And remember: We can change to a English native Speaker
and we can post 24/7 because we are Legion
popcorn

 Quoting: Atom-Boy




Unlike yourself, I welcome all information that sheds light on the situation. I post links to articles, I don't write them. If you want to dispute the information, go ahead. I will leave it to the readers to decide what to believe.

And, btw, I don't appreciate nor respond to threats....

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The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i did not saw, i am sorry!

Just wanted to tell you that i am here,
we can start Bombing as soon as you are prepared!

I don't mind you anymore,
because you are a Ignorant who don't face "Reality"
and as long as you provide wrong Information i will correct this (when it is possible)

And remember: We can change to a English native Speaker
and we can post 24/7 because we are Legion
popcorn

 Quoting: Atom-Boy




Unlike yourself, I welcome all information that sheds light on the situation. I post links to articles, I don't write them. If you want to dispute the information, go ahead. I will leave it to the readers to decide what to believe.

And, btw, I don't appreciate nor respond to threats....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i welcome also every form of Information too,
as long as it is provable,
i highly dislike Mis-Information, Wrong Data and Lies!

I invited you, after you called me a Shill for numerous Times
(and i even explained my Points to you)
to a
exchange of Blows in a academical Sense,
until now i can't send some Energy Beams to you,
no way to harm you physically, so don't hide!

You can't Silence me, for this your Arguments are to tiny hf

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 03/08/2012 05:54 PM
G.Y.!B.E.
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The shills were out in force denying and ridiculing anyone trying to make sense of it all.

You continue to hit every thread concerning Fuku to put your own little spin on the information.

I'm not convinced that you are not a shill for
Tepco and the Japanese government.




Is that rational enough for you?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i did not saw, i am sorry!

Just wanted to tell you that i am here,
we can start Bombing as soon as you are prepared!

I don't mind you anymore,
because you are a Ignorant who don't face "Reality"
and as long as you provide wrong Information i will correct this (when it is possible)

And remember: We can change to a English native Speaker
and we can post 24/7 because we are Legion
popcorn

 Quoting: Atom-Boy




Unlike yourself, I welcome all information that sheds light on the situation. I post links to articles, I don't write them. If you want to dispute the information, go ahead. I will leave it to the readers to decide what to believe.

And, btw, I don't appreciate nor respond to threats....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Oh, i welcome also every form of Information too,
as long as it is provable,
i highly dislike Mis-Information, Wrong Data and Lies!

I invited you, after you called me a Shill for numerous Times
(and i even explained my Points to you)
to a
exchange of Blows in a academical Sense,
until now i can't send some Energy Beams to you,
no way to harm you physically, so don't hide!

You can't Silence me, for this your Arguments are to tiny hf
 Quoting: Atom-Boy



If I wanted to silence you I would have banned you long ago.
What can be proven beyond a doubt? Your accusations have no merit.

Consider my motive for posting. I don't get paid for this. I am a concerned parent and grand-parent. That is all.

As I previously stated, I get a multitude of articles from diverse parts of the world and then form my own opinion. That is what it is. An opinion. No lies. No disinfo campaign.

How can you accuse me of lies or disinformation when it is you who repeatedly obfuscates?

To say my arguments are tiny is to attempt to intimidate me. Won't work.

In my experience; if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... it's a fucking duck.

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