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CP is legit...

I've seen his facebook page, his credentials, his webpage and I know his real name...
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That was for Atom-bot and his sycophants.
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My Grandmother
Tamako Kubota passed away.

She was 96.
We buried her December 7th.. looking back its ironic.
She was the last survivor from Hiroshima in her group.
She was a teacher all her life.
People on one side of her school building disappeared, on her side they survived.
She was burnt black on an arm and one side of her face.

Being a true christian she then walked into Hiroshima proper and helped survivors more injured than she was.
Unintentionally exposing herself to more radiation.


She was the last survivor from Hiroshima of an ongoing research project started in 1945 by the Japanese Government, The American Government, and The Canadian government monitoring the effects of low level radiation on the "caregivers" who survived the Hiroshima Bomb blast, and looked after the victims, I mean people.
Hiroshima was what we would call a dirty bomb today.

Every member of her research group except her died by 1986.
Every member died of cancer.
100% except her.
She had it three times. She was 82 the last time.

All her medical bills were paid by the three governments since 1945.

The data on the long term "lethal effects of low level radiation exposure" has been well documented by all three countries since 1945.
Yet they deny it exists.
I declare the statistical and medical information and documentation does exist.

Waterbug... nice work
Atom... your Government is lying to you, these studies exist.
C.P.... You don't sound so scattered, much more together good.

I don't know where these documents are but I do know they exist.
Currently averaging .13+ uSv/hr in Vancouver
Individual spikes up to .258 uSv/hr.

Peace to you... Tamako San.

Yes Atom this is improper but as kids we didn't know this, and she never corrected us.
It was meant with great great affection.


Silver

Many, Many thanks for all the hard work here folks...
capitalist,facist,nazi,communist,
socialist,militarist,religi​ous nutbars...family nuked,gassed,or robbed by all of them. history never lies but but men who write it do.
take the man away you have the truth...
...grandpa stole first MIG17 in 52..
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My deepest sympathy, Silver.

From your words, I know you loved her deeply.
She was a survivor and a credit to her generation.

Thank you for sharing.

May she rest in peace.
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Assholes..

Clean that shit up.. you caused it.



Rising radiation at SC nuclear dump prompts cleanup talk but no action
[link to www.thestate.com]

[snip]



COLUMBIA, SC — Radioactive pollution is getting worse on parts of South Carolina’s nuclear-waste dump near Barnwell, but state regulators say cleaning up the contaminated groundwater isn’t in their plan.

Tritium continues to exceed federal safe drinking-water standards in and around the 41-year-old burial ground that has come to symbolize South Carolina’s historic willingness to accept the nation’s garbage. In some spots tritium levels are higher today than they were five years ago.

But the S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control says the site is stable overall and no one is drinking the polluted water.
So for now, the agency has no plan for a tritium cleanup. The dump’s operator, Energy Solutions, agrees.

Among the data:

• In the oldest part of the Barnwell landfill, tritium levels have been found recently that exceed 29 million pico curies per liter of water. But that’s more than 1,400 times higher than the Environmental Protection Agency’s safe drinking water standard of 20,000 pico curies per liter, according to data reviewed by The State newspaper last week. The current reading is about 2 million pico curies higher than in 2007, DHEC records show.

• In Mary’s Branch, a small creek just below the site, tritium levels exceeded 500,000 pico curies per liter. That meets the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission radiation standard DHEC must ensure the site complies with. But it’s 25 times higher than the EPA’s standard for safe drinking water, The State found. Tritium levels at Mary’s Branch are roughly the same as they were in 2007, records show. The creek flows into the Savannah River.

Tritium is a fast-moving radioactive pollutant that has been linked to certain forms of cancer in people who drink water containing large quantities of the material. But it also can indicate the flow of more toxic contaminants that are expected to move in groundwater later. Substances such as uranium and plutonium are among those.
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And now... the truth comes out concerning the bastards at WHO.



Jiji: Cover-up of true radiation levels Fukushima residents were exposed to? WHO accused of underestimating disaster’s impact on human health
[link to enenews.com]

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The most flawed aspect of the WHO report is “its apparent lack of neutrality,” he said.

Rosen further asserted that the report reflects an effort to downplay the effects of the disaster, as it was compiled chiefly by IAEA staff and members of nuclear regulatory bodies that were closely colluding with Japan’s nuclear power industry.

“It is unclear why a report written mainly by the IAEA and collaborating nuclear institutions would need to be published in the name of the WHO, if not to provide an unsuspicious cover” for the true radiation levels Fukushima residents were exposed to, Rosen argued. [...]
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WHO Report on Fukushima a Travesty
[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

WHO downplayed health effects of nuclear crisis on Fukushima residents : German physician
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]


I guess we can throw this in the trash....

Preliminary Dose Estimation from the nuclear accident after the 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake and Tsunami
[link to www.who.int]


...and this...

WHO Fukushima Report - Good And Bad News
[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com]




There are many, many published accounts referencing this bogus WHO report...

I wonder how many of those accounts will be corrected..?
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I see a group of healthy twenty something Japanese vacationing here. I just got the idea of (if it seems an approachable situation) of asking them what they think about Fukushima. I might, I see opportunity knocking. Right now they are taking pictures of a beautiful rainbow that just manifested in the sky. The Japanese, a rainbow, maybe its a good omen.
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Wow! From the horse's mouth....

Good luck.
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Nuclear Event in USA on Sunday, 16 December, 2012 at 18:18 (06:18 PM) UTC.

Description
An energy company says it's trying to figure out why a central Pennsylvania nuclear power plant reactor shut down unexpectedly. PPL Corp. says Unit 2 at the Susquehanna nuclear facility near Berwick shut down early Sunday morning. The company says the reactor is safe and stable. In a statement, Allentown-based PPL says the shutdown occurred during routine testing of a valve on the unit's main turbine system. The company says the plant's other reactor is operating normally. [link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Thousands of dead fish off Chiba...

<translated page link>

[link to fukushima-diary.com]
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Gundersen Podcast.

DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN!
[link to fairewinds.org]

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December 16, 2012
In this Sunday's podcast, Fairewinds' Arnie Gundersen discusses two recent safety equipment failures at operating nuclear plants in the United States. Just this week, a containment failure in New York State and an emergency cooling water failure in Tennessee prove yet again that Fairewinds previous analyses of nuclear plant weaknesses are correct. Arnie also discusses how containments are leak tested and how the NRC allows those containment leak tests to be manipulated.
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Gundersen is talking about the new video coming out tomorrow.

Fukutards right, again. Shills wrong, again.
We've been saying unit three [MOX reactor] blew the fuck up for a long time..

His previous podcast is below..


Host Kevin Hurley:

Can you tell us anything about this video? May be a little sneak peek?

Nuclear Expert Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds Energy Education:

[…] We have some pretty conclusive evidence of a detonation shockwave [….] The video that’s going up on Monday at noon is basically an exposé on things that the Fairewinds has been saying all along. We now have the evidence that pretty much proves unequivocably that Fairewinds was right. That containments can blow-up with a detonation shockwave.




November 18
UNIT 3 FUEL POOL REPAIRS SUPPORT 'DETONATION' AND MORE CONTAMINATION FOUND IN FISH AND TOKYO SUBURB
[link to fairewinds.org]
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WHO Report on Fukushima a Travesty
[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

WHO downplayed health effects of nuclear crisis on Fukushima residents : German physician
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]



 Quoting: Waterbug


You know that Dr. Rosen belong to the same group like
Snake-Oil Busby and Helen *Wilcock*?
Rosen, a member of International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, called for an independent assessment based on solid scientific methodology that would examine the health impacts from radioactive fallout released after the Fukushima No. 1 complex suffered three core meltdowns in March 2011.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

Of course the WHO Estimation is wrong
but the People from the IPPNW are wrong too,
both have a hard Agenda and can:t work in a neutral mode,
same like you and other.

But we need neutrality to form our own thoughts,
we need neutrality to decide what we have to do,
Panic and *Daijobu* do not help!


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WHO Report on Fukushima a Travesty
[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

WHO downplayed health effects of nuclear crisis on Fukushima residents : German physician
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]



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You know that Dr. Rosen belong to the same group like
Snake-Oil Busby and Helen *Wilcock*?
Rosen, a member of International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, called for an independent assessment based on solid scientific methodology that would examine the health impacts from radioactive fallout released after the Fukushima No. 1 complex suffered three core meltdowns in March 2011.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

Of course the WHO Estimation is wrong
but the People from the IPPNW are wrong too,
both have a hard Agenda and can:t work in a neutral mode,
same like you and other.

But we need neutrality to form our own thoughts,
we need neutrality to decide what we have to do,
Panic and *Daijobu* do not help!



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and without the kind of of scientic methodology, both quantative and qualitative, that she has requested... there is no middle ground.... i err on the side of caution and seriousness... the last nuke to blow was chernobyl..... look at the remifications from that....

her request is not valid, but essential to the solving of this crisis, and indeed is required in all scientific disciplines....

i've heard enough maybes, possibles, future technology, more research required quakery from the pro-nukes to puke.... these people and children have either lost their homes for ever or live in the poison created that is still not contained.....

... ps: International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War... nice credentials....

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The report "seems to suggest a certain safety while omitting the important information that the risk of developing cancer and other radiation-induced diseases increases proportionally to the amount of radioactive exposure," Rosen, a pediatrician, said.

The most flawed aspect of the WHO report is "its apparent lack of neutrality," he said.

Rosen further asserted that the report reflects an effort to downplay the effects of the disaster, as it was compiled chiefly by IAEA staff and members of nuclear regulatory bodies that were closely colluding with Japan's nuclear power industry.

"It is unclear why a report written mainly by the IAEA and collaborating nuclear institutions would need to be published in the name of the WHO, if not to provide an unsuspicious cover" for the true radiation levels Fukushima residents were exposed to, Rosen argued.

[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

He don:t get it, he is also not *neutral*,
maybe the WHO is even more neutral than him!

I trust more the Japanese Universities and double
their estimations but there is no reason the believe
the People from the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War!

I know this People from after Chernobyl and they played
imo. a significant Role why we still use nuclear Energy,
they sold the People in the same Way like the Green Party,
but this is only my personal opinion!
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WHO Report on Fukushima a Travesty
[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

WHO downplayed health effects of nuclear crisis on Fukushima residents : German physician
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]



 Quoting: Waterbug


You know that Dr. Rosen belong to the same group like
Snake-Oil Busby and Helen *Wilcock*?
Rosen, a member of International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, called for an independent assessment based on solid scientific methodology that would examine the health impacts from radioactive fallout released after the Fukushima No. 1 complex suffered three core meltdowns in March 2011.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

Of course the WHO Estimation is wrong
but the People from the IPPNW are wrong too,
both have a hard Agenda and can:t work in a neutral mode,
same like you and other.

But we need neutrality to form our own thoughts,
we need neutrality to decide what we have to do,
Panic and *Daijobu* do not help!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Bullshit. Weren't you crowing about it when it was first released..?

You also adamantly claimed that unit 3 did not blow up..
You are wrong a lot more than you are right...
I, however, have been right, most of the time.

As far as being neutral.. hell, no...
Tepco is corrupt... the jap. nuclear regulators are corrupt... and for all I know... you are corrupt.

Don't come on MY thread and tell me to be neutral.
I am anti-nuke, anti-tepco and anti-tard.

So, don't be a tard.
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Afir there are even some People who claimed
that the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War are a KGB-Operation and paid by the Soviets
in the days of the Cold War, maybe even now!

Source; [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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@ Cp, please re-read what i wrote, you Troll!

But i forgot that a Discussion with you is futile
because you are a plain stupid Alcoholic A....le!
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WHO Report on Fukushima a Travesty
[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]

WHO downplayed health effects of nuclear crisis on Fukushima residents : German physician
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]



 Quoting: Waterbug


You know that Dr. Rosen belong to the same group like
Snake-Oil Busby and Helen *Wilcock*?
Rosen, a member of International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, called for an independent assessment based on solid scientific methodology that would examine the health impacts from radioactive fallout released after the Fukushima No. 1 complex suffered three core meltdowns in March 2011.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]

Of course the WHO Estimation is wrong
but the People from the IPPNW are wrong too,
both have a hard Agenda and can:t work in a neutral mode,
same like you and other.

But we need neutrality to form our own thoughts,
we need neutrality to decide what we have to do,
Panic and *Daijobu* do not help!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Bullshit. Weren't you crowing about it when it was first released..?

You also adamantly claimed that unit 3 did not blow up..
You are wrong a lot more than you are right...
I, however, have been right, most of the time.

As far as being neutral.. hell, no...
Tepco is corrupt... the jap. nuclear regulators are corrupt... and for all I know... you are corrupt.

Don't come on MY thread and tell me to be neutral.
I am anti-nuke, anti-tepco and anti-tard.

So, don't be a tard.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The Fuel Pool of Nr. 3 didn:t blow up!
How long do you need to realize this?

And you was wrong in nearly 85% of all your Statements,
we are still alive here in Japan and even in F:Shima!

No one of us is glowing, no one of us lost their Hair, Teeth
and what so ever!

And you can start your own Forum when you cant accept the Truth, maybe Nancy Lieder and you are a perfect Couple!
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Look, this is what i wrote;
Hmmm, when i say that it is the Truth and the Levels
are low, hmmm, i am a part of the Conspiracy or the Truth?

I think the WHO Report is just a Linguistic Masterpiece
because the Levels "in whole" Japan are low,
but in F'Shima and neighboring Prefectures very high!
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Forgot the link;
Thread: WHO : Post-Fukushima radiation levels in Japan 'LOW' !!

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@ Cp, please re-read what i wrote, you Troll!

But i forgot that a Discussion with you is futile
because you are a plain stupid Alcoholic A....le!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


um yup.. re-read.. your assertations that busby is snake oil.. is purporting that she is in the company of fools.... troll....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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@ Cp, please re-read what i wrote, you Troll!

But i forgot that a Discussion with you is futile
because you are a plain stupid Alcoholic A....le!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


am i?

atom boy.. grow a pair and stop ACíng we know who you are.... you're just hiding now so we can't tell you how wrong you are... again.. muddy waters bloke... you are all smoke, mirrors and deflection....

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So, don't be a tard.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The Fuel Pool of Nr. 3 didn:t blow up!
How long do you need to realize this?

And you was wrong in nearly 85% of all your Statements,
we are still alive here in Japan and even in F:Shima!

No one of us is glowing, no one of us lost their Hair, Teeth
and what so ever!

And you can start your own Forum when you cant accept the Truth, maybe Nancy Lieder and you are a perfect Couple!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Not talking about the fuel pool.

Did you pull that 85% out of your ass..? Prove it or STFU.

I never said anyone was glowing, nor any of that other shit... other than possibly in jest.

If you continue to attempt to discredit me and this thread by
comparing or associating me or it to the zeta bullshit, you will be ignored..
and I will ask that everyone who posts here to ignore you, as well.
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@ Cp, please re-read what i wrote, you Troll!

But i forgot that a Discussion with you is futile
because you are a plain stupid Alcoholic A....le!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


am i?

atom boy.. grow a pair and stop ACíng we know who you are.... you're just hiding now so we can't tell you how wrong you are... again.. muddy waters bloke... you are all smoke, mirrors and deflection....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Please show me where i am wrong?
I am waiting for this since Months but you always
fail to show us something where i was wrong!

But when i look for all the Threads you created i see
a massive fail and i recommend everyone to look for your Threads to see this cheap Populism, the Pseudo-Science
and the repeat of Disinformation!

Someone like you should not stand in the first line
when we talk about this!

@ Windy Mindy, you are more than phunny and i am laughing at you!

Now let us return to the Topic!5a

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!