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*** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links

 
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June 25th, 2013
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The Mainichi has uncovered secret government documents that prove the US and deputy DOE secretary Danial Poneman put intense pressure on Japan to continue the plutonium fuel MOX program in Japan. The documents clearly show the US is pressuring Japan to continue with the MOX fuel cycle program, something the US has failed to do themselves. The US has claimed the concern to be that the plutonium would be diverted to military use. Japan has a massive amount of spent nuclear fuel, more than they could ever realistically use through reprocessing into MOX. The US stance also ignores the prospect of vitrification, a technology that encases the material in a glass substance rendering it unusable for weapons.

The US is still struggling to create an operating vitrification plant at the Hanford nuclear site but France has two functioning vitrification plants.

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


The nuclear program in the US needs help.
Cost overruns, delays, indecision, poor planning.. lotsa crap.
The MOX program has political promises tied up with it.
Lotsa money invested.. too big too fail type of thing.
Easier to enforce it in Japan to show good faith.

They have painted themselves into another corner.
When will they ever learn..?
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June 25th, 2013
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The Mainichi has uncovered secret government documents that prove the US and deputy DOE secretary Danial Poneman put intense pressure on Japan to continue the plutonium fuel MOX program in Japan. The documents clearly show the US is pressuring Japan to continue with the MOX fuel cycle program, something the US has failed to do themselves. The US has claimed the concern to be that the plutonium would be diverted to military use. Japan has a massive amount of spent nuclear fuel, more than they could ever realistically use through reprocessing into MOX. The US stance also ignores the prospect of vitrification, a technology that encases the material in a glass substance rendering it unusable for weapons.

The US is still struggling to create an operating vitrification plant at the Hanford nuclear site but France has two functioning vitrification plants.

[end snip]

[link to www.simplyinfo.org]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


The nuclear program in the US needs help.
Cost overruns, delays, indecision, poor planning.. lotsa crap.
The MOX program has political promises tied up with it.
Lotsa money invested.. too big too fail type of thing.
Easier to enforce it in Japan to show good faith.

They have painted themselves into another corner.
When will they ever learn..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


indeed, the rabbit hole and warren run deep

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@Cploerb,

that Simple? Chuckle

Why do you transport such Shite?
Because it is great for your Ego as long
as other People suffer, even when this
are Children?

You masturbate on bad News of F'Shima and this is highly questionable!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42263178


You are paid to misinform the ignorant masses.
God will deal with you.

End of discussion.
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nice little snip from france

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D'un Renard
07:51 26 June 2013

Fukushima survey wrongly estimates radiation exposure of 16,000 people

FUKUSHIMA, Japan, June 26, Kyodo

Fukushima Prefecture and the National Institute of Radiological Sciences said Tuesday they erroneously estimated the radiation exposure of 16,118 people in a survey covering the first four months following the March 2011 nuclear disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.

Among about 420,000 people the authorities have finished compiling data on so far, recalculations show 12,469 received higher doses and 3,649 lower doses than previously estimated.

The margins for revisions range from plus 0.4 millisievert to minus 0.2 millisievert. As a result of revisions, some were found to be exposed to more than 1 millisievert, which is the annual limit set by the government for ordinary citizens.

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

[end snip]

surprised? of course not.....

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/27/2013 03:51 AM
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@Cploerb,

that Simple? Chuckle

Why do you transport such Shite?
Because it is great for your Ego as long
as other People suffer, even when this
are Children?

You masturbate on bad News of F'Shima and this is highly questionable!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42263178


You are paid to misinform the ignorant masses.
God will deal with you.

End of discussion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29122676


Rofl and you are a Freelancetroll who disturb the exchange of Information!

Here, a open Letter from one of the leading Newspaper here in Nippon:

Open letter to top executives of electric utilities with nuclear power plants:

Once again at general shareholders’ meetings this year, you blatantly ignored calls for weaning your companies from reliance on nuclear power generation. Instead, you made clear your determination to get your idled nuclear reactors back online as soon as possible.

Eight of the nine electric power companies that operate nuclear plants reported losses for the last fiscal year, which ended in March. The main factors behind the dismal standing include increased fuel costs due to the expansion of thermal power operations to compensate for the loss of electricity production with atomic energy.

Seven of them even had to dip into their cash reserves, or retained past profits, to cover their losses. Three of them have run out of these reserves. This is a really serious situation.

You seem to be wishing to bring things back to the way things were before by taking advantage of the Abe administration’s policy of promoting nuclear power generation.

It would seem, for the moment at least, that you are putting priority on short-term profits ahead of the future of your companies.

Read the rest: [link to ajw.asahi.com]
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nice little snip from france

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D'un Renard
07:51 26 June 2013

Fukushima survey wrongly estimates radiation exposure of 16,000 people

FUKUSHIMA, Japan, June 26, Kyodo

Fukushima Prefecture and the National Institute of Radiological Sciences said Tuesday they erroneously estimated the radiation exposure of 16,118 people in a survey covering the first four months following the March 2011 nuclear disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.

Among about 420,000 people the authorities have finished compiling data on so far, recalculations show 12,469 received higher doses and 3,649 lower doses than previously estimated.

The margins for revisions range from plus 0.4 millisievert to minus 0.2 millisievert. As a result of revisions, some were found to be exposed to more than 1 millisievert, which is the annual limit set by the government for ordinary citizens.

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

[end snip]

surprised? of course not.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


You said that you have been here in Japan in that days
(which still no one believe Chuckle )
so you must know that we have to be more than happy that
we are able to estimate the collective amount at least very closely,
Japan was out of order in that Time, 23 from 24 Measurement Stations
was destroyed, you Noob!
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D'un Renard
07:51 26 June 2013

Fukushima survey wrongly estimates radiation exposure of 16,000 people

FUKUSHIMA, Japan, June 26, Kyodo

Fukushima Prefecture and the National Institute of Radiological Sciences said Tuesday they erroneously estimated the radiation exposure of 16,118 people in a survey covering the first four months following the March 2011 nuclear disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.

Among about 420,000 people the authorities have finished compiling data on so far, recalculations show 12,469 received higher doses and 3,649 lower doses than previously estimated.

The margins for revisions range from plus 0.4 millisievert to minus 0.2 millisievert. As a result of revisions, some were found to be exposed to more than 1 millisievert, which is the annual limit set by the government for ordinary citizens.

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

[end snip]

surprised? of course not.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


You said that you have been here in Japan in that days
(which still no one believe Chuckle )
so you must know that we have to be more than happy that
we are able to estimate the collective amount at least very closely,
Japan was out of order in that Time, 23 from 24 Measurement Stations
was destroyed, you Noob!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42263178


Funny that... they said they turned all of the west coast US as they were not needed for the months that followed too... was that you AB?

Japanese technology not made to last any more? FOR SHAME..... ohh wait, nor were your reactors....

the only one that doesn't believe me about anything is you, because i have told you everything but nothing.... but you already know that.... i have given you the information, you just chose to obfuscate....

you're still....

citz_adhd

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Cploerb,
you talk Bs.!

After the Quake and Tsunami they was realitive quick to restore this Stations but the most important thing to do was Harm Reduction!

And we had many other Stations a bit away from the Quakecenter,
so we can make Calculations in that way which was impossible
after Chernobyl where we had 4 or 5 Stations in whole Western Europe!

You don't understand anything, not from the nuclear Point,
the medical View or the social Impact!
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Cploerb,
you talk Bs.!

After the Quake and Tsunami they was realitive quick to restore this Stations but the most important thing to do was Harm Reduction!

And we had many other Stations a bit away from the Quakecenter,
so we can make Calculations in that way which was impossible
after Chernobyl where we had 4 or 5 Stations in whole Western Europe!

You don't understand anything, not from the nuclear Point,
the medical View or the social Impact!
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well that says a lot......

retamemecitz
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oott tepco-knock off time....

AB? if i'm so wrong, why are you still here?

damn sure it's not for the love of an alien nation... perhaps you'd do better at home?

damned
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oott tepco-knock off time....

AB? if i'm so wrong, why are you still here?

damn sure it's not for the love of an alien nation... perhaps you'd do better at home?

damned
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You are not here and never was!
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oott tepco-knock off time....

AB? if i'm so wrong, why are you still here?

damn sure it's not for the love of an alien nation... perhaps you'd do better at home?

damned
 Quoting: Citizenperth


You are not here and never was!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


cute when you're mad-bro?

shl5a

Carefully there... do not confuse too many words; I have always stated "we" were there.....

'I', reflects the fact that you're referring to a singular entity, and at that time, this was not so ;)

More people worked at my work at the time then your entire pathetic TEPCO.... you remember which field right?

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/27/2013 05:19 AM
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You wrote that you have been here in Tokyo at 03/11!

But it was a Lie like your whole existence!
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Melted fuel removal at Fukushima plant planned from 2020 at earliest

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The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co. decided Thursday on a revised road map for decommissioning the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors, eyeing the start of the removal of melted fuel in 2020 at the earliest.

The government believes it is possible to bring forward defueling by more than a year from the initial plan through an improvement in work efficiency. However, the exact date cannot be guaranteed with TEPCO not knowing at this point exactly where the fuel is located and in what state it is in.

Read it at: [link to www.globalpost.com]
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JAEA map shows early iodine fallout
The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
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JAEA map shows early iodine fallout
The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
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They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
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of course it was... they still haven't learned to detect dirt from dirt......
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


kimdowtcwy

poor ATOM TWAT TRIPCO lier....

you urse your shoes? you noo pay dirivery driver! goo HOME not native son!

hentaidoom

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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


My problem with that is this.

They are in the business of producing highly
unstable radionuclides to heat water, create steam
and spin turbines to generate power.

This enterprise requires extremely close care be given to monitoring and metering of the emissions, to first maintain a barrier between these nuclides and the environment.

This, by definition, would require multiple metering stations and methods, highly-trained personnel to monitor levels, and a reporting system to inform citizens of any release and levels, direction of contaminant.

Where are all of the records..?
Reports..?
Communications records.
Names and titles of managers and administrators..?
E-mails..?
Telephone records..?

Are they all lost in the radiation, too..?
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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


My problem with that is this.

They are in the business of producing highly
unstable radionuclides to heat water, create steam
and spin turbines to generate power.

This enterprise requires extremely close care be given to monitoring and metering of the emissions, to first maintain a barrier between these nuclides and the environment.

This, by definition, would require multiple metering stations and methods, highly-trained personnel to monitor levels, and a reporting system to inform citizens of any release and levels, direction of contaminant.

Where are all of the records..?
Reports..?
Communications records.
Names and titles of managers and administrators..?
E-mails..?
Telephone records..?

Are they all lost in the radiation, too..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


and the forty year deadline

'nough said.....

where do the roll out of continuation licences end... have we and even tepco-boy seen enough?
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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The Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed a radiation map Thursday showing how iodine-131 likely spread in the early stages of the March 2011 Fukushima meltdowns, a development that could help doctors locate unsuspecting cancer victims.
---------

Because iodine-131 has such a short half-life — only eight days — collecting data was difficult. Thanks to atmospheric radiation data collected in 2011 by U.S. Department of Energy flights from March 17 to April 5, however, JAEA was able to develop a new method to calculate surface levels of iodine-131 in consultation with international experts.
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


My problem with that is this.

They are in the business of producing highly
unstable radionuclides to heat water, create steam
and spin turbines to generate power.

This enterprise requires extremely close care be given to monitoring and metering of the emissions, to first maintain a barrier between these nuclides and the environment.

This, by definition, would require multiple metering stations and methods, highly-trained personnel to monitor levels, and a reporting system to inform citizens of any release and levels, direction of contaminant.

Where are all of the records..?
Reports..?
Communications records.
Names and titles of managers and administrators..?
E-mails..?
Telephone records..?

Are they all lost in the radiation, too..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Bug, you forget the Destruction and the whole Situation after
the Quake and Tsunami,
all the Employees from Daiichi and Daini was
living closely around that Plant and many of them lost their Houses,
Wifes, Children, Parents too, every single Person was in a
extreme Situation and than the Melt-Down occurred!

There was no Protocol anymore and i cant blame them
because i am a Human and understand it,
you maybe not but soon you will!

There are Data for every single Telephon-Call,
we have 24/7 Video Material from the Command Center,
we know who was Responsible and who was where
for every single Minute,
we have access to all the Measurement Stations of Daiichi.

This is very unique, unique as the whole Drama of that Day!
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@ Cploerp, aka Mr. Wasintokyo. Chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


your attention is not only flattering, but reaching many other sites... shhhhh tepco-boy, you work against yourself from current statistics.. if i am no-one that would be obvious to.. no?

I have made not only a shrine for you in a data-chronology, but your 'tepco-friends' may have too... take that last coffee and FLEE home!...

(my staff love you.. they at least think you are a crack up) xo ;)

snicker

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/27/2013 11:34 AM
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They had eighty days to meter the Iodine.
Why was it so difficult..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


My problem with that is this.

They are in the business of producing highly
unstable radionuclides to heat water, create steam
and spin turbines to generate power.

This enterprise requires extremely close care be given to monitoring and metering of the emissions, to first maintain a barrier between these nuclides and the environment.

This, by definition, would require multiple metering stations and methods, highly-trained personnel to monitor levels, and a reporting system to inform citizens of any release and levels, direction of contaminant.

Where are all of the records..?
Reports..?
Communications records.
Names and titles of managers and administrators..?
E-mails..?
Telephone records..?

Are they all lost in the radiation, too..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Bug, you forget the Destruction and the whole Situation after
the Quake and Tsunami,
all the Employees from Daiichi and Daini was
living closely around that Plant and many of them lost their Houses,
Wifes, Children, Parents too, every single Person was in a
extreme Situation and than the Melt-Down occurred!

There was no Protocol anymore and i cant blame them
because i am a Human and understand it,
you maybe not but soon you will!

There are Data for every single Telephon-Call,
we have 24/7 Video Material from the Command Center,
we know who was Responsible and who was where
for every single Minute,
we have access to all the Measurement Stations of Daiichi.


This is very unique, unique as the whole Drama of that Day!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


When do the heads begin to roll..?
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06/27/2013 11:37 AM

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Not critical.



Diablo Canyon Reactor Shut Down After Leak Found
[link to ktla.com]
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06/27/2013 11:39 AM

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Not critical.



Diablo Canyon Reactor Shut Down After Leak Found
[link to ktla.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


'Calculational garbage'
Did the NRC allow PG&E to dodge Diablo Canyon seismic licensing requirements?
[link to www.newtimesslo.com]

Did Pacific Gas & Electric sidestep what some people consider to be critical seismic requirements for Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant following the discovery of the Shoreline Fault? Whether that’s even a valid question to raise depends on to whom you’re talking.

The U.S. Geological Survey’s 2008 Shoreline discovery prompted PG&E to quickly assess whether the fault—a roughly 12-kilometer-deep, 24-kilometer-long vertical strike-slip that intersects with the nearby Hosgri fault to the north, and lies some 600 meters from the plant’s power block—is capable of producing an earthquake large enough to damage vital plant components.

A subsequent PG&E report found that the Shoreline is capable of producing up to a magnitude 6.1 earthquake. The plant was built to withstand a 7.5-magnitude event.

But practical application of knowledge of the fault, as well as a hazy grasp on how it could interact with neighboring faults, turned into a years-long internal Nuclear Regulatory Commission debate focusing on the plant’s seismic safety design basis.
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06/27/2013 11:40 AM
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@ Bug,

i really doubt that we will see falling Headz,
which is maybe okay here in Japan where
they love and adore their Teacher and cover up
everything bad he do!

By far tooooooooo many Headz would fall
and the negative Impact may be worse than
the Melt-Down in Daiichi!

I am sure that we will see a few Seppuku or Harakiris
in the close future.
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No Roads,
No Bridges,
No Access at all
(the Eq and the Tsunami destroyed everything)
and maybe no one was willed to go there
because of all the Destruction, the smell of Death
and the Radiation!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


My problem with that is this.

They are in the business of producing highly
unstable radionuclides to heat water, create steam
and spin turbines to generate power.

This enterprise requires extremely close care be given to monitoring and metering of the emissions, to first maintain a barrier between these nuclides and the environment.

This, by definition, would require multiple metering stations and methods, highly-trained personnel to monitor levels, and a reporting system to inform citizens of any release and levels, direction of contaminant.

Where are all of the records..?
Reports..?
Communications records.
Names and titles of managers and administrators..?
E-mails..?
Telephone records..?

Are they all lost in the radiation, too..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Bug, you forget the Destruction and the whole Situation after
the Quake and Tsunami,
all the Employees from Daiichi and Daini was
living closely around that Plant and many of them lost their Houses,
Wifes, Children, Parents too, every single Person was in a
extreme Situation and than the Melt-Down occurred!

There was no Protocol anymore and i cant blame them
because i am a Human and understand it,
you maybe not but soon you will!

There are Data for every single Telephon-Call,
we have 24/7 Video Material from the Command Center,
we know who was Responsible and who was where
for every single Minute,
we have access to all the Measurement Stations of Daiichi.


This is very unique, unique as the whole Drama of that Day!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


When do the heads begin to roll..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


indeed, your 'tepco friends' have denied much of the restitution AB, how do you feel within yourself supporting them?

(bug has other things on his mind)

i fucking hate you for supporting them.. but i am sure that we understand that

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 06/27/2013 11:46 AM
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42408702


your attention is not only flattering, but reaching many other sites... shhhhh tepco-boy, you work against yourself from current statistics.. if i am no-one that would be obvious to.. no?

I have made not only a shrine for you in a data-chronology, but your 'tepco-friends' may have too... take that last coffee and FLEE home!...

(my staff love you.. they at least think you are a crack up) xo ;)

:snicker:
 Quoting: Citizenperth

Mr. Wasintokyo
Rofl u cant stalk me! Rofl

B'cause you are tooooo stupid for even that!

You should concentrate on your own Bowl-movement
and not fail in the public again!

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