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Waterbug  (OP)

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@ Waterbug,

how do the Ac from Japan can bring Evidence
that we are not die in the Millions here in Nippon?

This is very difficult Popcorn

The Numbers of Deaths related to Fukushima are
still around ca. 2.000 which included all the
old People who was forced to evacuate.
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Well.. that's not the issue. Radioactive contamination is variable in its effects.
The sickness and deaths will come soon enough. Anyone with a brain knows this.

Care to post the abortion statistics from Japan since 3.11.11..?
Stillbirths..? Mutations..? Should be seeing them by now.
If we are not.. it would fly in the face of science.
Where are the results of independent medical testing..?

The tone of his posts was to ridicule this thread and the information we offer.
Refute the information with some kind of substantiation or STFU.
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Well.. that's not the issue. Radioactive contamination is variable in its effects.
The sickness and deaths will come soon enough. Anyone with a brain knows this.
 Quoting: Waterbug


There will be Death,
a lot of Death but still much less
than many People here expect/ed,
many People don't understand the Luck
we had and have until now!

Care to post the abortion statistics from Japan since 3.11.11..?
Stillbirths..? Mutations..? Should be seeing them by now.
If we are not.. it would fly in the face of science.
Where are the results of independent medical testing..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


I posted the actual Statistic in the last Spring,
until the end of 2011 no Impact was seen,
the Problem is the Depopulation.
(means that many People left Fukushima,
spec. the pregnant Women.
This is not good for a meaningful Statistic!)

Also we should not forget the People who aborted
their Babies because of Fear!

We know from Chernobyl that more than 50.000 Women
aborted their Babies in the months after 04/26.1986,
this is horrible!

The tone of his posts was to ridicule this thread and the information we offer.
Refute the information with some kind of substantiation or STFU.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I think the Tone in absolute every Discussion about the
F'Shima Accident is more than bad and this is not only
because of People like me who look and Dig deeper,
People like you play their Role in this.

But i don't mind this anymore because this is Glp
and nothing where we show our good Sides!

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I think the Tone in absolute every Discussion about the
F'Shima Accident is more than bad and this is not only
because of People like me who look and Dig deeper,
People like you play their Role in this.

But i don't mind this anymore because this is Glp
and nothing where we show our good Sides!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Nice try, but...I will not allow you to generalize my role in this. I am not responsible for anyone else's statements.
I realize there has been sensationalism.. that is how people get pinned and for many of them, that is the objective.
Not so here. This thread has been pinned a grand total of once.. and that was an indignant CP using karma..

My goal is to attempt to find and present the facts to the best of my ability.
I am biased against liars, stupidity and nuclear technology.
I've made no secret of that.
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UK nuclear power plant shut down due to maintenance issue
Magnox Ltd. said Unit 1 at the Wylfa nuclear power plant in Wales was taken offline Sept. 30 following difficulties encountered during routine refueling operations.
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'Hundreds of problems' at EU nuclear plants
Hundreds of problems have been found at European nuclear plants that would cost 25bn euros (£20bn) to fix, says a leaked draft report.

The draft says nearly all the EU's 143 nuclear plants need improving.
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Favourite for UK nuclear reactor contract ends bid
One of the favourite bidders for a multi-billion pound project to build a new generation of nuclear reactors in Britain has pulled out of the race.

French engineering group Areva was expected to table a bid, along with the China Guangdong Nuclear Power Corporation, for the much-vaunted Horizon joint venture but did not make a final offer by a deadline on Friday, it was reported on Tuesday night.

The withdrawal of the Franco-Chinese consortium narrows the field down to a two-horse race between a group led by Hitachi of Japan and Westinghouse Electric, which is owned by Toshiba. Horizon owns two vacant reactor sites, in Wylfa in Anglesey and Oldbury in Gloucestershire.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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@ Waterbug,

exactly this Type of Videos make it so difficult
to discuss the Topic!

There is no Background Info about this Video,
the Claim and the Translation,
we know nothing and People like you don't
even know what they are talking about!

As i wrote it already some Times i belong to a Group
and we exchange our Information on a monthly Basis:
There are no Reports about a increase of Birth Defects
(afir. 3 of 100)
no Reports about a significant sickness Rate
in the Kids of whole Tohoku and Kanto
and there is nothing else which is "Strange"!

In this Groups more than 5.000 People
(Healthworker, Teacher, Nurses but also "normal" People)
are organized
and the Rate for fraud is small!
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@ Waterbug,

exactly this Type of Videos make it so difficult
to discuss the Topic!

There is no Background Info about this Video,
the Claim and the Translation,
we know nothing and People like you don't
even know what they are talking about!

As i wrote it already some Times i belong to a Group
and we exchange our Information on a monthly Basis:
There are no Reports about a increase of Birth Defects
(afir. 3 of 100)
no Reports about a significant sickness Rate
in the Kids of whole Tohoku and Kanto
and there is nothing else which is "Strange"!

In this Groups more than 5.000 People
(Healthworker, Teacher, Nurses but also "normal" People)
are organized
and the Rate for fraud is small!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I didn't do anything other than post it. The readers can decide for themselves the validity of the information according to their own preference.


While I'm at it...

Do you deny the existence of pregnant women in Japan, in the vicinity of Fukshima-Daiichi during emissions..?
Do you deny the high radiation at the time of the emissions..?
Do you deny that people were in the plume unknowingly because the SPEEDI evacuation system was not immediately implemented.. and when it was.. it directed some people into the plume instead of away from it..?
Do you deny the effects of radiation on foetus..?

So.. where are the reports of the stillbirths, the mal-formed..?
Are you saying there is nothing out of the ordinary..?

I ain't a-buyin' it.
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While I'm at it...

Do you deny the existence of pregnant women in Japan, in the vicinity of Fukshima-Daiichi during emissions..?
Do you deny the high radiation at the time of the emissions..?
Do you deny that people were in the plume unknowingly because the SPEEDI evacuation system was not immediately implemented.. and when it was.. it directed some people into the plume instead of away from it..?
Do you deny the effects of radiation on foetus..?

So.. where are the reports of the stillbirths, the mal-formed..?
Are you saying there is nothing out of the ordinary..?

I ain't a-buyin' it.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yes, there was and there are pregnant Women in F'Shima,
there was a "relative" High Emission
and "ca. 2.000 People" stayed in a Place which got
more Radiation than expected!

Every form of Radiation is harmful, not only for the Foetus!

Where are the Stillbirths, the deformed or harmed Babies?
Hmmm, maybe in other Prefectures and all in a small Number
because so many People evacuated from there to Tokyo,
to Sendai, Nagano or to the South!

The Evacuation was not perfect
but much better than i thought,
People like you underestimate the Destruction from the Quake
and the Tsunami.

And that this 2.000 People got more contaminated than
necessary was mostly because of the Major of that Town,
he peculated important Information!
But even with this Incident the Contamination was very low!
(for three molten Reactors)

We need to wait, this is the only thing we can do,
we can't change it anymore- it happened already!

But People like H. Caldicot are not helpful at all
and not very supportive for the Women in that Region,
as well as in the whole World.
I am going even a Step further and say that because
of her (H. Caldicot) more Foetuses got and get lost
than by Fukushima!

Her Disinformation kills,
same like Nuclear Energy and the Accident in F'Shima!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Her Disinformation kills,
same like Nuclear Energy and the Accident in F'Shima!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Time will tell the tale.
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Fukushima plant's reactor No.2 has new thermometer
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has installed a new thermometer inside its Number 2 reactor. Monitoring efforts continue at the facility that was declared in a state of cold shutdown last year.

Tokyo Electric Power Company fitted the thermometer on Wednesday. Only one device out of the existing 5 has been working properly near the bottom of the reactor's pressure vessel.

The thermometer showed 42.7 degrees Celsius. An existing device nearby has been measuring 45.8 degrees.
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Regulator may inspect Ohma plant
The Nuclear Regulation Authority will consider an on-site investigation of possible active faults near a nuclear power plant under construction in Aomori Prefecture.
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Hokuriku Elec. asserts safety of Shika nuclear plant in court
Hokuriku Electric Power Co. sought on Wednesday the dismissal of a lawsuit in which some 120 people are demanding that the No. 2 reactor of the Shika nuclear power plant on the Sea of Japan coast be suspended due to safety concerns.

In the first hearing at the Kanazawa District Court, the utility said, "Safety is sufficiently secured," while the plaintiffs argued that a geological fault under the plant's No. 1 reactor must be active and could result in a severe accident.
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While I'm at it...

Do you deny the existence of pregnant women in Japan, in the vicinity of Fukshima-Daiichi during emissions..?
Do you deny the high radiation at the time of the emissions..?
Do you deny that people were in the plume unknowingly because the SPEEDI evacuation system was not immediately implemented.. and when it was.. it directed some people into the plume instead of away from it..?
Do you deny the effects of radiation on foetus..?

So.. where are the reports of the stillbirths, the mal-formed..?
Are you saying there is nothing out of the ordinary..?

I ain't a-buyin' it.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yes, there was and there are pregnant Women in F'Shima,
there was a "relative" High Emission
and "ca. 2.000 People" stayed in a Place which got
more Radiation than expected!

Every form of Radiation is harmful, not only for the Foetus!

Where are the Stillbirths, the deformed or harmed Babies?
Hmmm, maybe in other Prefectures and all in a small Number
because so many People evacuated from there to Tokyo,
to Sendai, Nagano or to the South!

The Evacuation was not perfect
but much better than i thought,
People like you underestimate the Destruction from the Quake
and the Tsunami.

And that this 2.000 People got more contaminated than
necessary was mostly because of the Major of that Town,
he peculated important Information!
But even with this Incident the Contamination was very low!
(for three molten Reactors)

We need to wait, this is the only thing we can do,
we can't change it anymore- it happened already!

But People like H. Caldicot are not helpful at all
and not very supportive for the Women in that Region,
as well as in the whole World.
I am going even a Step further and say that because
of her (H. Caldicot) more Foetuses got and get lost
than by Fukushima!

Her Disinformation kills,
same like Nuclear Energy and the Accident in F'Shima!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


your disinformation is sadly lost on the educated...

we know that we shield nuclear devices and the reason is that it is
1. random
2. long standing and
3. damaging

your lies and surupticious staements as to the contrary are inline with the whole nuke-pro stand and that is "it is safe" if under control... being the mooted point....

you appologetic stance and anti-realistic arguments are pre-60's and demonstrably unreasonable.... go get some sushi you lying sack of shit..... and stop trolling a tread where for the upteenth time you and your atom brothers state against the situation and back with no fact.... you and your "friendly support group" are nothing but pro-nuclear gangsters and at an educated guess yakuza ganster hill-billy morans.... go STFU.............
whatmeltthroughshillyjpsmall happyhentaidoomfukucranecanwecomeinshlkittfuku

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Cp should learn to bring Arguments,
Sources, Evidence and Material and
he should face his Role in the Accident
of Fukushima and all the next
Nuclear Accidents!

Cp never learned to discuss a Topic
in a "social Way", he never learned
to follow his own Demands and he
like fecal-Language!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Cp should learn to bring Arguments,
Sources, Evidence and Material and
he should face his Role in the Accident
of Fukushima and all the next
Nuclear Accidents!

Cp never learned to discuss a Topic
in a "social Way", he never learned
to follow his own Demands and he
like fecal-Language!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


well that's rather rude of you.. do go to my chronology of events page, you will find 50K hits and 2K per day and over 400+ incidents that have been recorded.... oops.. you have to go to school and eat fuku sushi... sry.. go play in the sun now.... run along.. tap tap...
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Cp should learn to bring Arguments,
Sources, Evidence and Material and
he should face his Role in the Accident
of Fukushima and all the next
Nuclear Accidents!

Cp never learned to discuss a Topic
in a "social Way", he never learned
to follow his own Demands and he
like fecal-Language!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


out of interest?.. do you actually bring to the debate any data?.. meaningfull and such... also.. do you have any chronological eveidence of your statements other than statements againsts those that disagree with you?

I find you interesting in that you are well known for you mannerisms and you lack of english protocols.. ie: you stand out like a dick-wad regardless of your change of name......

here's a thought.. go make a pro-TEPCO thread..... you'd be famous for being the one and only....

STFU......

reta

people are affected and your see-sawing needs a sniper shot......

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50.000 Hits in total
but 2.000 Daily, this sounds crazy Rofl + Popcorn

but typical for you!

But i am out, People/Trolls like you can't
change anything and a Discussion with
you is fruitless.

Go and copy F-D because this is what you
want to be, a simple, Black and White Copy!

Sayonara byebye
G.Y.!B.E.
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Cp should learn to bring Arguments,
Sources, Evidence and Material and
he should face his Role in the Accident
of Fukushima and all the next
Nuclear Accidents!

Cp never learned to discuss a Topic
in a "social Way", he never learned
to follow his own Demands and he
like fecal-Language!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


well that's rather rude of you.. do go to my chronology of events page, you will find 50K hits and 2K per day and over 400+ incidents that have been recorded.... oops.. you have to go to school and eat fuku sushi... sry.. go play in the sun now.... run along.. tap tap...
 Quoting: citizenperth

G.Y.!B.E.
citizenperth

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50.000 Hits in total
but 2.000 Daily, this sounds crazy Rofl + Popcorn

but typical for you!

But i am out, People/Trolls like you can't
change anything and a Discussion with
you is fruitless.

Go and copy F-D because this is what you
want to be, a simple, Black and White Copy!

Sayonara byebye
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


i've been up to date outside of FD as you may or may not know... imbocile... in fact i met the owner on a french site of all places and know him personally... whether or not i agree with anything he says there's one difference... he brings to the debate factualised and documented translations... which is more than could be said about the size of you penis... now?.. anything?..... didn't think so ... TEPCO training runs 6 am - 9 pm with fukushima sushi break... don't you and your cronnies let me late now.. ps... print this off so you can translate it later in your english course... much dorra dorra for you..... torra torra torra!.. dickwad with nothing forth coming debate wise.... oh... hang you did say you were in a citizen group.. STOP frying their brains with disinfo little man small - penis....

awww. did you not rooky rooky at threads you typy typy to?... i think you wanted tepco.jp.... employee for 5 dorrar dot com..... new job.. creanny creanny wiff moppy at fukushima ... safety paramount with free badge if you lasty lasty 2 day.... go them rad counts dude!!!!

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Russian Firm to Bid for Building Argentinian Nuclear Plant
Moscow, Oct 2 (Prensa Latina) Argentinian Energy Minister, Julio De Vido, confirmed today the qualification of Russian corporation Rosatom to bid for the construction of the fourth and fifth nuclear power station in Argentina.
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Europe's nuclear plants need $13-32 billion upgrade
BRUSSELS (AFP) - From missing seismic devices to insufficient emergency systems, Europe's nuclear power plants face hundreds of problems requiring billions in new investment, a European Union report said Tuesday.

EU-sponsored stress tests conducted on 134 reactors point to a myriad of potential safety hazards, notably in Britain, France and Spain, according to a report obtained by AFP. But it does not go as far as recommending the closure of a single plant.
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The veil is lifting...


Exclusive: Workers at San Onofre Nuclear Plant Report Culture of Fear, Deep Mistrust
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They are looking into it.. probably a good idea.



Flammable Gas In Hanford Waste Tanks Concerns Nuclear Watchdog
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[snip]

Specifically, the defense board wants better venting systems and real-time monitoring equipment on each tank. The nuclear safety watchdog says although Energy department officials do take the risks seriously, there has been no real progress and the “schedule for upgrades continues to slip.”

Hanford’s underground tanks are full of the sludge and a toxic brew leftover from plutonium production during World War II and the Cold War. Carrie Meyer, an Energy department spokeswoman, says her agency is looking into the matter.
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They are looking into it.. probably a good idea.



Flammable Gas In Hanford Waste Tanks Concerns Nuclear Watchdog
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[snip]

Specifically, the defense board wants better venting systems and real-time monitoring equipment on each tank. The nuclear safety watchdog says although Energy department officials do take the risks seriously, there has been no real progress and the “schedule for upgrades continues to slip.”

Hanford’s underground tanks are full of the sludge and a toxic brew leftover from plutonium production during World War II and the Cold War. Carrie Meyer, an Energy department spokeswoman, says her agency is looking into the matter.
 Quoting: Waterbug


my my..............
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Quebec's only nuclear plant to close by December
QUEBEC CITY — Gentilly-2, Quebec's only nuclear power plant and one of five in Canada, will close by December, affecting 736 workers.

Quebec's Natural Resources Minister Martine Ouellet told a news conference that it would be too expensive to refit the plant, located 150 km northeast of Montreal.
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All eyes on Vogtle, first U.S. nuclear reactor in a generation
There may be one thing that Georgia Power CEO Paul Bowers wants to emphasize the most about the expansion of nuclear power-generating Plant Vogtle: It has to be perfect.

The two new reactors at the plant, just south of Augusta near the South Carolina border, are the first to be built in the United States since the Three Mile Island incident in 1979. And with that, Bowers said the nation and the world will be watching. The pursuit of perfection is to the point of turning back concrete-reinforcing metal “rebar” with a 90-degree bend if it’s off by one-sixteenth of an inch, he said.

“The nation and the world are really watching this project. Georgia Power is one of the first ones out to be developing this platform for the United States,” he said
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Top Nuclear Experts: Technology Doesn’t Yet Exist to Clean Up Fukushima
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