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Citizenperth

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12/17/2012 04:48 AM
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No!

You should learn the basics about F:Shima Daiichi
because i can see a huge Hole in your Brain,
maybe you should start with the Alphabet,
than start with Physics and Chemistry,
than come again and stop to telling Lies
because someone *who think* that he know something
do not need to use them,
but someone who is a pathological
Liar .............!

Now it is 6.45pm JST and you must be already drunk!

Please bring better Arguments in the next Slugfest
because you need it urgently!

Tokyo-Setagaya Ward; 0.09 Microsievert/h
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memecitz

keep bumping the thread tho.... ;)

Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 12/17/2012 08:10 AM
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Citizenperth

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they must have knocked off now.. anyhoos....

On 9/16/2012, Fukushima Diary reported that 33 of 50 nuclear plants have the spent fuel pools full in 6 years. 14 of 50 nuclear plants have the pools full in 12 years. [Link] Only 3 of 50 nuclear plants have capacity in the pools to run for longer than 12 years. Building a new spent fuel pool takes over 10 years. If they have the pool full, the nuclear plant can never run. Also, Japan is in the serious shortage of nuclear workers. In 2012, Tepco needed 12,000 workers for decommissioning Fukushima. However, actual workers were less than 4,000. [Link] According to Japanese government, decommissioning takes up to 40 years. Even in the first year, they collected only 1/3 workers of planned. These workers were collected from all around in Japan. Once they restart other nuclear plants, most of the workers will move there for less exposure dose.
Having these problems, restarting nuclear plants means stocking spent fuel in dry cask out of interim storage, and having nuclear workers supplied in a compulsory way, such as conscription.
(cf. Edano, Minister of Economy, “Nuclear Spent fuel should be stocked in Tokyo and other big city areas” [Link]) However, none of these facts were discussed.

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3. Rearmament is not a game

Some people again, say most of the countries have military and some of them conscript young men. It’s not something to surprise. However, this is not correct.
They “amend” the constitution to build military because they have to do that. They don’t take pains for fashion to look like other countries.
It is presumed that Japan is going to have numbers of lawsuits for health problems. Also, rapid aging and evacuation are killing its tax income and economic growth. To cloud the issues, it is very effective to draw people’s attention to external and imaginary threats. Also, rearmament would require conscription , which is useful to keep the stable supply of nuclear workers. In other country, you are not always taken to the battle field even if you are conscripted. However,Japanese conscription promises you to be exposed to radiation.

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hmmmmmm....and kinda draws the island conflict into perspective....

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

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12/17/2012 10:43 AM
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Kids, calm down ffs!... back to reality...
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12/17/2012 10:44 AM
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Foreign firms largely excluded in Fukushima clean-up

TOKYO —
Nearly two years after a massive earthquake and tsunami caused meltdowns at the Fukushima nuclear plant, Japan is failing to keep a pledge to tap global expertise to decommission its crippled reactors, executives at nuclear contractors from the United States and Europe say.

The result, they warn, is that a process expected to take more than 30 years and cost at least $15 billion could take longer and cost more as contracts are channelled through domestic heavyweights such as nuclear reactor makers Toshiba Corp and Hitachi Ltd, and general contractors such as Taisei Corp.

A review of bidding records by Reuters shows companies from outside Japan have failed to win any of the 21 contracts awarded this year to develop technologies crucial for the unprecedented job of scrapping the four damaged reactors at Fukushima.

“There appears to be a desire to treat this as a science project and reinvent the wheel,” Jeffrey Merrifield, senior vice president of U.S. nuclear engineering firm Shaw Group Inc’s power division said.
[link to www.japantoday.com]
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TEPCO shares soar 33% after LDP's win

TOKYO (AFP) —
Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO) shares soared almost 33% Monday, leading an energy firm rally after a pro-nuclear election win in Japan likely means any short-term plan to ditch atomic power will be shelved.

TEPCO rocketed 32.89 percent to 202 yen by the close, Chubu Electric Power jumped 9.59% to 1,188 yen and Kansai Electric was up 17.64% at 920 yen.

The huge surge on the Tokyo Stock Exchange came after voters on Sunday dumped Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda and his Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ), giving the pro-business Liberal Democratic Party a landslide victory.
[link to www.japantoday.com]
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IAEA, Fukushima agree to cooperate on decontamination, waste control

The International Atomic Energy Agency agreed with the Fukushima prefectural government on Saturday to work closely on decontamination and radiation monitoring work in the aftermath of the nuclear power plant crisis last year.

Several projects are planned under their agreement, including the dispatch of IAEA missions to provide technical advice on the process of cleaning contaminated land around the crippled Fukushima Daiichi complex and of managing the waste generated by decontamination, Japanese government officials said.
[link to english.kyodonews.jp]
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12/17/2012 12:00 PM
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Kids, calm down ffs!... back to reality...
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Really..

That was a little taste of the chaos that sometimes ruled Fuku 1 thread;
something that is largely avoided with this format.
The need to ban, which was the primary bitch of the posters on that thread, is not as much of a concern.

Discussion is great.. but it often seems to evolve into mayhem.
I have been as guilty as anybody.
Hence, the spectre of boredom arises, Windy.
Can't have it all.

Once again, there are no banned posters or removed posts on this thread.. it is what it is, warts and all.

Thank you.. to all of you who contribute in a positive manner.
Waterbug  (OP)

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12/17/2012 02:25 PM
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Voter voices: No choice but to vote for pro-nuclear party
[link to mainichi.jp]
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12/17/2012 03:30 PM
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PPL unsure why nuclear reactor near Berwick shutdown

BERWICK, Pa. (AP) — An energy company says it's trying to figure out why a central Pennsylvania nuclear power plant reactor shut down unexpectedly.

PPL Corp. says Unit 2 at the Susquehanna nuclear facility near Berwick shut down early Sunday morning. The company says the reactor is safe and stable.
[link to www.nucpros.com]

As always it's "safe and stable"... lol...
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12/17/2012 03:31 PM
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This one is for SOR...

Fluor Corp. replaces co-founder as head of Oregon reactor company

CORVALLIS, Oregon — After investing more than $30 million to rescue NuScale Power from financial meltdown, Fluor Corp. has replaced the Corvallis company's co-founder with one of its own people.

John L. Hopkins was named Thursday to take over as chief executive officer from Paul Lorenzini, who helped launch NuScale in 2007 to commercialize a next-generation nuclear reactor technology developed at Oregon State University.
[link to www.nucpros.com]
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Spain oldest nuclear plant shuts down

MADRID: Spain's oldest nuclear plant Garona is shutting down on Sunday ahead of new taxes included in a government energy reform that would render the plant unviable.

Spain is introducing higher taxes on electricity generation as a measure to address an over 24 billion euro ($31 billion) energy tariff deficit after years of selling power below costs.
[link to www.nucpros.com]
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SUSQUEHANNA Reportable Event: REACTOR SCRAM FROM 98% POWER DURING TURBINE CONTROL VALVE TESTING

At approximately 01:56 hours on December 16, 2012, Susquehanna Steam Electric Station Unit 2 reactor automatically scrammed while performing testing of the number 2 control valve per the station surveillance testing program. The number 2 control valve closure initiated a 1/2 scram in the reactor protection system as designed; specifically the 'B1' channel. Evaluation of plant data indicates that an 'A' scram channel signal was activated during the time period the number 2 control valve scram signal was active, thereby causing a full reactor scram. The cause of the 'A' scram channel signal is not understood at this time and is under investigation.

"A second reactor scram signal was received at approximately 02:10 hours due to reactor water level lowering to 13 inches. Reactor water level was restored above the trip setpoint. All control rods inserted and both reactor recirculation pumps tripped at -38 inches. Reactor water level lowered to -48.5 inches causing Level 3 (+13 inches) and level 2 (-38 inches) isolations.
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Britain's Hinkley Point B-7 nuclear reactor off line

EDF Energy - UK - , Hinkley Point B-7 nuclear reactor disconnected from the grid on Sunday. 

Hinkley Point B-7 reactor is a 480 megawatt unit. The station is locaed near Bridgwater, Somerset, on the south west coast of England. Hinkley is an Advanced Gas-Cooled Reactor (AGR).

The Advanced Gas-Cooled Reactor (AGR): This is the type of reactor operated by British Energy and is unique to the UK. As the name suggests, it is an advance on the earlier UK Magnox design. The uranium dioxide fuel is enriched to about 3% U-235 (natural uranium is only 0.7% U-235) and clad in stainless steel cans with a graphite moderator and carbon dioxide coolant. The reactor and steam generators are housed within a steel reinforced concrete pressure vessel, the walls of which are several metres thick. An AGR’s thermal efficiency is about 42%, generating a typical electrical output of upto 660MW.
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12/17/2012 05:09 PM
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Finally..

More Lessons From the Fukushima Daiichi Accident: Containment Failures and the Loss of the Ultimate Heat Sink
[link to www.fairewinds.org]

[snip]

In this Monday's video, Fairewinds investigates a recently released report from Tokyo Electric. Arnie Gundersen discusses TEPCO's latest analysis that, almost two years after the accident, fully substantiates Fairewinds long held position that the explosion at Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3 was the result of a detonation shock wave. Arnie also discusses troubling reports that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has been avoiding the analysis of damage to many nuclear plants' emergency cooling systems (Ultimate Heat Sink) from storm surges, tsunamis or dam failures. The ramifications of both of these issues on old designs and also the AP1000 are also analyzed in depth.
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I checked the rain on Maui today and it was fine according to the inspector. Can't have it all? I don't get that. Even though there are no bans there is a certain way to post here. I will do it my way.
 Quoting: WindyMind


You said this thread is boring.
I explained why ...
The information provided is paramount.
Discussion is secondary to that.

I didn't start this thread to get a pin, sensationalize or otherwise detract from the data.
Posters who attempt to defeat this sharing of data are confronted.
I feel this tact is necessary to preserve the integrity of the thread.
For this same reason, no one is banned and posts are preserved as they are posted.
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Waterbug  (OP)

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12/17/2012 06:15 PM
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I said it A long time ago. Why do you bring it back up?
 Quoting: WindyMind


I checked the rain on Maui today and it was fine according to the inspector. Can't have it all? I don't get that. Even though there are no bans there is a certain way to post here. I will do it my way.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Expounding the statement.. for you.. because you didn't get the reference.

Discussion is great.. but it often seems to evolve into mayhem.
I have been as guilty as anybody.
Hence, the spectre of boredom arises, Windy.
Can't have it all.


It can be a dry, boring, informative, fact-based thread...
or it can be an exciting, sensationalistic, skirting-around-the-truth thread..
It's very hard to have both.
WindyMind

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12/17/2012 06:55 PM
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ahhh

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This one is for SOR...

Fluor Corp. replaces co-founder as head of Oregon reactor company

CORVALLIS, Oregon — After investing more than $30 million to rescue NuScale Power from financial meltdown, Fluor Corp. has replaced the Corvallis company's co-founder with one of its own people.

John L. Hopkins was named Thursday to take over as chief executive officer from Paul Lorenzini, who helped launch NuScale in 2007 to commercialize a next-generation nuclear reactor technology developed at Oregon State University.
[link to www.nucpros.com]
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Thanks for thinking of me when you read this. Yes, Oregon State has a Nuclear Reactor on site and a Nuclear program. I do not believe the replacement had nothing to do with:

"NuScale's failure last month to secure a coveted Department of Energy grant to help commercialize small modular reactors, or SMRs".

It's alwaysabout the money. Their is no country/state/corporation that does not consider money first and all other thing after.
"Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
Waterbug  (OP)

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12/17/2012 10:42 PM
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Fuck you very much.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Is that directed at me..?
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Flawed welds at MOX plant to be corrected, NRC told
[link to chronicle.augusta.com]
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Investigating Ocean Currents Using Uranium-236 from the 1960s
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12/17/2012 10:52 PM
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TEPCO: Tech dearth behind N-accident
[link to www.yomiuri.co.jp]

[snip]

The crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant was caused by insufficient technical capacity and a failure to make consistent efforts to improve safety.
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Cesium measured from 100% of Fukushima white rockfish in November and December
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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Fuck you very much.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Is that directed at me..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Hard to say.

I hit the reply to button when I want to respond to a poster.

Not the sharpest tool, so to speak.
Waterbug  (OP)

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May just be too much coffee... but I have been feeling very uneasy, today.. some kind of weird energy.
I'm usually pretty centered and calm.. despite my rantings.

I dunno. Dad's birthday. He is 77. Mom would be 76 on the 22nd. She passed away in 2000. I miss her very much.
Waterbug  (OP)

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This is unsettling, too.

Thread: Have any of you had abnormal Thyroid levels - West Coast USA/Can- Fukushima death could
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