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Genesis 5:18-24 [18] Jared lived one hundred and sixty-two years, and begot Enoch. [19] After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. [20] So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years; and he died. [21] Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah. [22] After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters. [23] So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. [24] And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, "and was not found, because God had taken him"; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Jude 1:14-15 [14] Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [15] to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

We first learn of Enoch in Genesis 5 but it leaves us with questions. Hebrews 11 has the answers and Jude quotes Enoch! How did Jude come to know the words of Enoch? They are not in the Bible. The answer of course, is The Book of Enoch. A book which is actually quoted by Jude in the New Testament. What is the Book of Enoch and where did it come from?

Enoch was the great-grandfather of Noah. The Book of Enoch chapter 68:1 "And after that my great-grandfather Enoch gave me all the secrets in the book and in the parables which had been given to him, and he put them together for me in the words of the book of the parables."

The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book. The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture". The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. This and many other books became discredited after the Council of Laodicea. And being under ban of the authorities, afterwards it gradually passed out of circulation.

At about the time of the Protestant Reformation, there came to be a renewed interest in the Book of Enoch which had long since been lost to the modern world. By the late 1400's rumors began to spread that somewhere a copy of the long lost Book of Enoch might still exist. During this time many books arose claiming to be the long lost book and were later found to be forgeries.

The return of the long lost Book of Enoch to the modern western world is credited to the famous explorer James Bruce, who in 1773 returned from six years in Abyssinia with three Ethiopic copies of the lost book. In 1821 Richard Laurence published the first English translation. The famous R.H. Charles edition was published in 1912. In the following years several portions of the Greek text surfaced. Then with the discovery of cave 4 of the Dead Sea Scrolls, seven fragmentary copies of the Aramaic text were discovered.

There are scholars who believe the Book of Enoch was published before the Christian era by some great unknown of Semetic race, who believing himself to be inspired in a post-prophetic age, borrowed the name of an antediluvian patriarch to authenticate his own enthusiastic forcast of the coming Messiah. The Book of Enoch is divided into five basic parts, but it is the The Book of Parables (37-71) which gives scholars the most trouble for it is primarily concerned with a figure called "the messiah"; "the righteous one"; "the chosen one" and "the son of man."

The Book of Enoch Chapter 46:1-2 [1] There I beheld the Ancient of days whose head was like white wool, and with him another, whose countenance resembled that of a man. His countenance was full of grace, like that of one of the holy angels. Then I inquired of one of the angels, who went with me, and who showed me every secret thing, concerning this Son of man; who he was; whence he was; and why he accompanied the Ancient of days. [2] He answered and said to me, This is the Son of man, to whom righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwealt; and who will reveal all the treasures of that which is concealed: for the Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has surpassed all before the Lord of spirits in everlasting uprightness."
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yawn.... the bible is a myth
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
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I read J.J. Hurtak's twice hf
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I read the Book of Enoch... my favorite part was ...

But with the righteous He will make peace.

And will protect the elect,
And mercy shall be upon them.

And they shall all belong to God,
And they shall be prospered,
And they shall all be blessed.


Sooooooooooooooo good!



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read both of them
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I have read the R H Charles translation over and over again. The Book of Enoch actually answered a lot of questions for me and clarified for me certain things, like who demons really are and why they are able to "vex" us, and why God does not stop them. Anyone who wonders why there is evil and why it persists needs to read Enoch.

It may have been written specifically to many people who are alive at this very moment - read it and see what you think.

Who it is written to:
1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be 2 living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is 3 for to come. Concerning the elect I said, and took up my parable concerning them:

The Holy Great One will come forth from His dwelling, 4 And the eternal God will tread upon the earth, (even) on Mount Sinai, [And appear from His camp] And appear in the strength of His might from the heaven of heavens.

Thanks OP for reminding me. 5*
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Love this book...so many answers......for those who have eyes to see... Tanks op
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Interesting book. Explains a lot about the Nephilim and fallen angels. God probably wanted this info out (again) before the end comes so people can be warned and warn others about the coming deception (again).

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
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Wonder why they left that book out?
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
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Wonder why they left that book out?
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Because it was never an integral part of the Tanakh.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
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Wonder why they left that book out?
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Because it was never an integral part of the Tanakh.
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And who made that decsion?
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it was not written by Enoch.
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Ive read Enoch and commentaries on it. Very insightful indeed. And...dispells many so called 'doctrines' of false christians. Its easy to see why it was forced to remain hidden for so long.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


Wonder why they left that book out?
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Because it was never an integral part of the Tanakh.
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And who made that decsion?
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I myself would have loved to read the part of the story about Noahs great grand father and all the things he saw...which undoubtedly involved the reasons as to why "God" flooded the entire world.
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I'd say it's one of the biggest coverups in history. If not the biggest. The fallen angels and the Nephilim explain our history. Yet we get fed with evolution and aliens (Nephilim) as our answers. It's a joke.

Genetic manipulation is happening now, DNA tampering is happening now, Godlessness is happening now, homosexuality is happening now, satanatic ritual blood sacrifices (abortions) are happening now, false beliefs and false gods are being worshiped now. History is repeating itself. Just as in the days of Noah. But they're trying to keep it all in the dark.

Luckily the info is getting out. Seems like more and more people are waking up to it.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


Wonder why they left that book out?
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this book fell into disfavor with powerful theologians because of its controversial statements on the nature and deeds of the fallen angels.


... The secret of the fallen angels used to be closely guarded by the cultures that were aware of them. Angels = Archons, the Greeks and Romans worshiped the Archons in their mystery religions which were a mixture of Egyptian and Babylonian. In truth, the Roman Catholic Rite (the religion as a whole) most closely resembles the Chaldean religion from the Neo-Babylonian period starting in the 6th century BC... The Sumerians (early Babylonians) believed the Archons created man, mated with them, used them as slaves, etc. This belief is common to the area, now, with a new 'universal' religion spreading through the area, you wouldn't want to offend anyone who worships these Archons, right? Maybe some of the founders of the faith were secretly worshiping fallen angels? The Bible itself was completely banned from Catholicism for the majority of time Catholicism has been a religion... and for the record, Catholicism, the word itself, is defined as "Universalism", it was the original "new age" religion...
Total Protonic Reversal...
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


Wonder why they left that book out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432822


this book fell into disfavor with powerful theologians because of its controversial statements on the nature and deeds of the fallen angels.


... The secret of the fallen angels used to be closely guarded by the cultures that were aware of them. Angels = Archons, the Greeks and Romans worshiped the Archons in their mystery religions which were a mixture of Egyptian and Babylonian. In truth, the Roman Catholic Rite (the religion as a whole) most closely resembles the Chaldean religion from the Neo-Babylonian period starting in the 6th century BC... The Sumerians (early Babylonians) believed the Archons created man, mated with them, used them as slaves, etc. This belief is common to the area, now, with a new 'universal' religion spreading through the area, you wouldn't want to offend anyone who worships these Archons, right? Maybe some of the founders of the faith were secretly worshiping fallen angels? The Bible itself was completely banned from Catholicism for the majority of time Catholicism has been a religion... and for the record, Catholicism, the word itself, is defined as "Universalism", it was the original "new age" religion...
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Lol. I knew it was the Catholic church that banned the book from being bound to the bible. And I think the Catholics just enjoy keeping everything they teach completely controlled by word of mouth. It is much easier to pull wool over the eyes of people. How else would they have been able to sell sins to people. They made the guide lines to control and propaganda. But I do thank you for the other interesting perspectives I had not Fully thought about.
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215410


Monotheistic idea came from it's earlier father polytheism. What I am trying to say is if you were interested in this stuff before you would realize paganism came first and it's teaching, rituals, and preachings were cut up, cooked a little, and rehashed as your modern day monotheitsic christanity. So you are probably full of shit about your reconversion. Plus jesus is something that also goes back into polythestic religion. Read...listen it is good stuff.
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
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Monotheistic idea came from it's earlier father polytheism. What I am trying to say is if you were interested in this stuff before you would realize paganism came first and it's teaching, rituals, and preachings were cut up, cooked a little, and rehashed as your modern day monotheitsic christanity. So you are probably full of shit about your reconversion. Plus jesus is something that also goes back into polythestic religion. Read...listen it is good stuff.
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
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The bible cleary says fallen angels "knew" human daughters.....so unless the original translation is bullshit(which would discredit the entire book) these women had their children. It just conviently stops talking about this situation after that chapter. So you either believe you book about dragons and magic trees or you don't. But you cannot have you cake and eat it too
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I think it was not physical mating but rather choosing which human hosts to incarnate into.

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7491t9 I'm sort of reading it. Enoch was spoken approvingly of by Jesus Christ, and it does cover subjects that are of great interest.
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215410


Monotheistic idea came from it's earlier father polytheism. What I am trying to say is if you were interested in this stuff before you would realize paganism came first and it's teaching, rituals, and preachings were cut up, cooked a little, and rehashed as your modern day monotheitsic christanity. So you are probably full of shit about your reconversion. Plus jesus is something that also goes back into polythestic religion. Read...listen it is good stuff.
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Back it up mother fucker. Don't just throw me a BS flag and call it day. Prove me wrong. If you can I applaude you. But polytheism came first and that is all there is to it. Just because your book goes back to the beggining of time....it was not there at the beggining of time. It was passed down by word of mouth. And it derived from the belief in more than one God. I call BS you simple piece of shit.
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I think it was not physical mating but rather choosing which human hosts to incarnate into.
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I guess it is another one of those, any other time it would mean this....but here it doesn't. It is a popular theme with that book.
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All this leads to the great deception where people will buy in to the Nephilim returning (aliens, ET's, etc) as our creators and gods. Thankfully before Jesus returned me back to Him, I was in to the new age beliefs. So I learned a lot about them. And that's what all this paganism is about. So Satan can be worshiped by mankind and turn us against God once and for all. I don't need to tell anyone what happens if they worship the beast or take his mark. So don't be deceived. Jesus can save us all from the deception if we ask Him.

It's easy to talk tough now but when they return and start performing miracles we never could have imagined, a lot of people will buy in to it. But Jesus says we have authority over them with His name and shed blood. They're not superior to us. It's all a lie. They're completely inferior if we have God on our side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215410


The bible cleary says fallen angels "knew" human daughters.....so unless the original translation is bullshit(which would discredit the entire book) these women had their children. It just conviently stops talking about this situation after that chapter. So you either believe you book about dragons and magic trees or you don't. But you cannot have you cake and eat it too
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It's obvious you want to believe in the deception willingly. I won't stop you so you don't need to convince me of it. I on the other hand have my faith securely in Jesus and that won't change.
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Is that the one where angels and humans had sex, and their children were like, giants who could do magic, so God came along and smited the lot of them, except for, like, 10%, who were our ancestors?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


Wonder why they left that book out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432822


this book fell into disfavor with powerful theologians because of its controversial statements on the nature and deeds of the fallen angels.


... The secret of the fallen angels used to be closely guarded by the cultures that were aware of them. Angels = Archons, the Greeks and Romans worshiped the Archons in their mystery religions which were a mixture of Egyptian and Babylonian. In truth, the Roman Catholic Rite (the religion as a whole) most closely resembles the Chaldean religion from the Neo-Babylonian period starting in the 6th century BC... The Sumerians (early Babylonians) believed the Archons created man, mated with them, used them as slaves, etc. This belief is common to the area, now, with a new 'universal' religion spreading through the area, you wouldn't want to offend anyone who worships these Archons, right? Maybe some of the founders of the faith were secretly worshiping fallen angels? The Bible itself was completely banned from Catholicism for the majority of time Catholicism has been a religion... and for the record, Catholicism, the word itself, is defined as "Universalism", it was the original "new age" religion...
 Quoting: GUANO


Lol. I knew it was the Catholic church that banned the book from being bound to the bible. And I think the Catholics just enjoy keeping everything they teach completely controlled by word of mouth. It is much easier to pull wool over the eyes of people. How else would they have been able to sell sins to people. They made the guide lines to control and propaganda. But I do thank you for the other interesting perspectives I had not Fully thought about.
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Gutenberg ended that with the printing press...
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So do you believe Enoch is the Son of Man?
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I think it was not physical mating but rather choosing which human hosts to incarnate into.
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I guess it is another one of those, any other time it would mean this....but here it doesn't. It is a popular theme with that book.
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The issue is in going from angelic form to human or at least physical form... perhaps this happened in atlantean or prior times, and then those products mated with humans... I need to read Enoch more closely. hmm
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