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Trying To Force the Rapture

 
flip
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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excellent and unfortunately very true article
Pseudonym is Seeker
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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The poor fools will be disappointed because there is no īraptureī.
A religious group in the 19th century (I think it was the Millerites) took a passage from the Bible thus: īand one shall be left at the mill wheel grinding and one shall be taken; and one shall be left in the field and one shall be takenī.. and took it to literally mean that God would rapture the faithful at a given moment in the future.
This is a grossly interprative idea and ...
it aint gonna happen...not like that anyway.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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I believe it was John Darby who fathered this line of thinking. Kind of took the Christian of Christianity and created a dealth centered cult out of the whole thing.
Servant
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Trying to force the rapture! I donīt think so! But definitely moving towards engineering an event which will play on the beliefs of those who profess belief in īthe Raptureī - with the view of setting up a godlike figure to rule the world!
Dee
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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This is disinfo and nothing could be further from the truth..

There is absolutely nothing Christian or Chirst like about the United States governments current administration nor has their been for a very very long time.

The Lord they honor and adhere to is Lucifer if you were paying attention.. To the little boys clubs they have formed and attend that would not even be a question who they honor.

The Rapture of the Church.. in which all believers dead and alive is a real event eminant without warning and certainly not hinged on or regulated by human manipulation.

Something they can NOT delay nor hasten.

All they can do is screw with a LOT of people minds exactly as the above article is intended to do..

It is total bullshit...
Pseudonym is Seeker
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Right 869, it has been attributed to Darby.


I wouldnīt want people to let go of their hopes and dreams but equally it would be a shame for people to give everything up to some cult or similar based on a false hope.
Servant
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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All they can do is screw with a LOT of people minds exactly as the above article is intended to do..


Exactly my point!
Q.
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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I heard bush say that GOD is watching us over the NO cleanup.

well he really stuffed up if he knew that.

Did not make a very good impression as to how organised and compassionate they are.

LOL maybe they worship Darth Vader and his rapture will be....
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Falwell is a big supporter of this administration and a personal friend of many in the White House. He made a video called "march to armageddon". He and 20 million or more nit wits in the US believe that Armageddon is going to happen in this decade in the Mideast followed by the second coming. The scariest part is, have you ever heard of a self fulfilling prophesy?

So chances are the neocons are going to take care of the armageddon part....it is now US policy to use nuclear weapons "pre emptively"....and after the armageddon, then theyīll all sit around like Charlie Brown waiting for the great pumpkin which will never arrive....just one big huge mess.

When itīs all said and done, thank religion for screwing up the world for everyone (again).
Servant
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Itīs not religion that has screwed up this world but TPTB who use religion as a tool to feed their power hungry ambitions that have screwed up this world!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Trying to force the rapture! I donīt think so! But definitely moving towards engineering an event which will play on the beliefs of those who profess belief in īthe Raptureī - with the view of setting up a godlike figure to rule the world!



I wouldnīt worry about any of this.

Any artificial attempt to fool the masses will not fool everyone.

Conversely, no one will mistake anything else for the genuine article.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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13748- That is correct. But itīs pretty rare situation where religion has been used to stopped wars lately. I am pretty sure God isnīt very pleased with this turn of events.
Dee
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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>>am pretty sure God isnīt very pleased with this turn of events...<<

Not pleased at all... But not surprized either..

Although on the other hand I can see an awful lot of humanity being very surprized soon..

Very surprized at how much we have been lied to by the very ones that we thought we could trust and believe.. HAH.

Our religious leaders and our government leaders have been in business together longer than most could begin to surmise.

It has just now gotten much worse.A whole LOT worse..

Why is everything seemingly speeding up and intensifing do you THINK?

The very ONE who opposes God is getting most anxious to establish his ONE WORLD ORDER.

The bible really is a good reference especially the prophetic scriptures.

The current world rulers, the Pope included know how to read donīt ya think.
Manipulators all.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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I wonder how God feels about New Orleans? I wonder how the people who were praying beforehand feel now after their city, their churches, their homes have been destroyed? Yeah, I know...the lord works in mysterious ways.....bullshit.

There is no god. Grow up. Religion was invented to control the masses.

In fact, the definition of insanity is one who holds irrational beliefs...which puts most religious extremists of all kinds squarely into
the textbook definition of insane.
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12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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"The rapture doctrine, as it is taught and believed today, vaguely details the bodily removal of Christians from the earth, but only after certain world events have occurred."
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Utter bulls@#t.
This is a lie. The rapture will occur and there is nothing that can start or stop it. There is no event that must lead up to it.
You sound like little girls shrilling about a stolen piece of candy.
You could at least study something before you show your ignorance.
Tying Bush to Christ and blaming God for the worlds troubles is exactaly what Satan wants you to do.
And you call us sheeple!!!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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I wonder if any one still buys that AC 710.

Canīt be many.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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"The entire purpose of this war, is to create the conditions for the return of Christ on earth and the establishment of New Jeruselem in Israel. This would also include the rebuilding of the Temple Mount in Israel, allegedly the "sign" for which the world awaits the heralding of the return of Christ."


Jerusalem is a spiritual place of knowing truth. The spiritual Temple Mount is already rebuilt.Many know the truth about the scam of the world and the Freemasons and Antichrist Jews and all the manmade religions. We know the message of Jesus is to just love one another and truth with all of our heart and soul.We know about the traditions of Babylon we are supposed to come out of.You actually save alot of money by doing so.All will return to the Feasts of the Lord.

Anyone who pops up over in Rothschild Israel as the Freemason Antichrist Jew world saviour is a scammer. You people are already raptured.Caught up to the truth.One person was in the field and got caught up to the truth while the other person kept playing and was left behind.

The Last Great Day and Feast of Tabernacles still to be celebrated this month.
Dee
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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>>I wonder how God feels about New Orleans?<<

Iīd say not happy..

>.I wonder how the people who were praying beforehand feel now after their city, their churches, their homes have been destroyed?<<

We are all living in the fallen world that has a powerful adversary. One who has been keen on control and deception.

>>Yeah, I know...the lord works in mysterious ways.....bullshit.<<

How do you presume to know how God answers prayer do you know where the souls are now that called out to God in their last moments?

>>There is no god. Grow up. Religion was invented to control the masses.<<

Only part of this statement is true.
God is real.

>>In fact, the definition of insanity is one who holds irrational beliefs...which puts most religious extremists of all kinds squarely into
the textbook definition of insane<<

Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that without the discernment that comes by the Holy Spirit of God indwelt, what you say above is quite true.

As all religious manipulators who are not guided by the Holy Spirit do seem bent that way.

They seem to be endorsing insanity at an ever increasing rate.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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"They seem to be endorsing insanity at an ever increasing rate."

There are 2 worlds in this world. One is Babylonian with all the blind dead people practicing its ways. The other is the world of truth and spiritual life.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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God, Satan, heaven, hell....all contrived for simple minds and a human need to believe in something greater than themselves. Actually I should say "Gods". There are over 100 religions in the world most with different gods. If you are practicing a religion, and if there were heaven and there were a god....well then, by definition, only one religion would have gotten it right. Why would anyone be so pompous as to believe they picked the correct one out of so many? Itīs called brainwashing and it happens every Sunday, or Saturday depending on which one. Why do so many people have trouble with the concept of rotting in the ground when they die just like everything else on this planet does? Is that just too simple?

2000 years from now, this will seem as silly as the Sun god and all that crap from 2000 years ago.
Dee
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Some though choice.. choose hope.

Creator God, God Almighty who is over all you discribed, gave us hope.

I found it and cling fast.
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12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Jesus made quite clear that the vast majority of mankind will choose the easy way in life. His real followers - that tiny remnant - will be treading a narrow and difficult path ... Matthew 7:13-14


Try coming out of Babylon ways and following the Judean spiritual path.It is narrow and up against the whole world.
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"This is a lie. The rapture will occur and there is nothing that can start or stop it. There is no event that must lead up to it."

Interesting. This is an entire departure from the despensational take on it. You probably need to attend your own church more often as you appear to be missing the core message. Although you do seem to have the death and destruction part down pat.

15749- God did this because he was unhappy with New Orleans? Did this same "God" slow down the Federal Response in order to compound the suffering? Ahhhh.....death cult rearing itīs ugly head.

Why canīt we just go back to the core message in Jesusī teaching which was the Golden Rule? Even though I donīt agree with what some of you are expounding doesnīt mean I believe you are damned to suffering throughout eternity- nor do I secretly wish this upon you. Why canīt you wish the same upon the rest of us? Like Catholics for example?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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710, God is the spirit of truth and Satan the adversary is the spirit of lies. You are against religion of men. Did you know that so is God? God only requires you to love one another and truth. You would expect that from the one true God correct? Donīt base your opinion of God of the Bible on what you see preached from the Babylonian Christian and Babylonian Jew priests. Search for truth with your heart and soul and you will find it.
JayRodney
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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A laxative may help.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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16543 - I donīt need to find anything. Iīm happy
and content.....but a little pissed that the intolerant religious extremists are about to screw up the world for everyone.

The interesting thing about what you say is another point I missed. The more religious you are, the more intolerant you tend to be of anyone who doesnīt share your beliefs. You feel a need to "convert" everyone. Thatīs why religion has been the catalyst for most all major wars throughout history. Itīs all a big truckload of crapola. Heaven is the carrot, hell is the stick....so snap into line, believe as I do, or get the stick. Itīs ridiculously silly when you really think about it.
I donīt need the threat of hell to know what is right and wrong....to do the right thing. I do know that religious leaders like Pat Robertson publicly advocate murder....isnīt that odd that strong religious beliefs justify and advocate murder?
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12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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God, Satan, heaven, hell....all contrived for simple minds and a human need to believe in something greater than themselves. Actually I should say "Gods". There are over 100 religions in the world most with different gods. If you are practicing a religion, and if there were heaven and there were a god....well then, by definition, only one religion would have gotten it right. Why would anyone be so pompous as to believe they picked the correct one out of so many? Itīs called brainwashing and it happens every Sunday, or Saturday depending on which one. Why do so many people have trouble with the concept of rotting in the ground when they die just like everything else on this planet does? Is that just too simple?

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Well, if thatīs how you genuinely feel about it, Iīm certain youīll be accommodated.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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Jayrodney. That tactic wonīt work for ever. Soon it will become a blessing in disguise.
Anonymous Coward
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"16543 - I donīt need to find anything. Iīm happy
and content.....but a little pissed that the intolerant religious extremists are about to screw up the world for everyone."

710 I just think you shouldnīt spread false information about God if you donīt understand God. If you follow the rules of God you get Heaven on Earth. If mankind doesnīt then they get Hell on Earth. We have Hell on Earth now because no one follows God. It will always be that way until mankind repents from its false religions that cause confusion and war and suffering.God doesnīt want people to suffer, they just choose to suffer on their own free will. How do you expect God to force people to love one another and truth and stay away from manmade religion? God wonīt because God is not the God of forces. God can only put the truth out and see if mankind is bright enough to catch on.
JayRodney
12/08/2005 10:20 AM
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9877, blink I was just kind of joking, what do you mean?





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