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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145072 United States 06/23/2011 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top shorted but needed an excuse to hide behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311260The release of an insignificant amount of oil... The general population of braindead morons...you...will be forced to accept it. Why did oil cave? because the bottom...The general population of braindead morons...you...can't support the prices anymore. The top know this because...you all...supply the top with everything wholesale...they then mark it up and sell it to you retail. The top lives off the difference between the wholesale caost and the retail price. the top lives off the yield from the bottom. But you all can't continue paying the current retail prices anymore...so the retail prices have to drop. which means teh wholesale cost has to drop as well. The top who was raising the prices to begin were hiding behind the excuse all you brain dead morons currently believed. Needed to come up with an new excuse to replace the old excuse so you all don't realize that the top began shorting oil to drive the prices down. To extract yield...because the prices can't rise anymore. It's all a smoke an mirrors show... It's a sign the recovery or inflation out of the 2008 deflation is not working. I suppose by your post that all Americans are idiots. How easy it is for you to spout off from your luxurious suite in Canada. You must have a job or something. Us American idiots have done fine without any help from you so far. If we ever need anything we sure as hell won't call you, unless we need some snow dug out from under our Corvette. BTW, where the hell is Canada anyway? Actually, we get plenty of help from Canada. America couldn't be a contender in the nuclear playground without them. Care to guess who is one of the biggest miners/exporters of Uranium? Now guess who buys most of it from them. While not all Americans are idiots, we certainly have an overabundance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257011 United Kingdom 06/23/2011 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They estimate we use about 90million barrels of oil each day!. They built a system built around this black gold but they forgot to jot down a plan for when it runs out. Here is a tip, don't built a system that is dependant on a finite resource. Nobody knows how much oil is left, people like to think they do, but they don't. Oil reserves probably make the government think they are doing good by the people but the reality is if oil runs out or they can't afford to import anymore the reserves are going to last the blink of an eye. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431235 Belgium 06/23/2011 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They estimate we use about 90million barrels of oil each day!. They built a system built around this black gold but they forgot to jot down a plan for when it runs out. Here is a tip, don't built a system that is dependant on a finite resource. Nobody knows how much oil is left, people like to think they do, but they don't. Oil reserves probably make the government think they are doing good by the people but the reality is if oil runs out or they can't afford to import anymore the reserves are going to last the blink of an eye. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257011There are alternate solutions, maybe we should just try to spend all the fuel asap so there's no other option then to convert to new types of fuel. |
Red Auroras User ID: 1249308 United States 06/23/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prices might drop a little in a month. But if they're only releasing 30 million barrels, it seems likely to have little or no impact. That's a day and a half of U.S. consumption. Quoting: gnosticWoo hoo. Yeah and when they start going back up, they'll skyrocket. We're going to want that SPR topped off for the next war. No one here including me was alive during WWII rationing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1412358 United States 06/23/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: centrist77He did sound like he was about to cry yesterday didn't he, I don't think he is some conspirator anymore, I just think he knows we are 100% fucked and can't come out and say it. The global financial system is fucked, yes. However, there are many who say that this too is manipulated from behind the scenes to such an extent that today's so-called financial "crisis" had been intended from the beginning, by those who command the most power on this planet. As for the price of crude oil and the hydrocarbon market situation in general, that is definitely wholly and completely manipulated by those who benefit most, i.e: the world's seven largest energy companies. For instance, not many people know this today because it has been both successfully and deliberately hidden, but the US still easily has enough reserves of oil and natural gas, -- to say nothing about coal -- to supply its own needs indefinitely. The notion that we are "running out of oil" in this country is false. It is well-known that there are huge reserves of liquid petroleum and natural gas in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico, for one example. But "Big Oil" has paid politicians in Florida and elsewhere (there are also significant untapped reserves off both the East and West coasts of the US) in the offshore Continental Shelf of US territory. And in addition to this there are huge and known reserves of liquid petroleum in the Great Plains of the US as well as significant deposits of oil sands, oil tars and shale in the Rocky Mountain region of this country. All of these things are fact and yet most have been brainwashed into thinking that the US can no longer supply itself with its own conventional energy resources. And of course none of this includes the various alternative forms of energy production. The bottom line here is that it is a total fallacy that the planet has a "shortage" of petroleum reserves because not only are there still significant and untapped supplies in the US and elsewhere in North America but massive reserves remaining in South America, Africa, Asia, Australia, vast areas of ocean bottom and so on and so on. And again, there are numerous alternative methods for energy production which are fully understood and for which the technology already exists but which are not being utilized. But the energy industry on this planet deliberately exercises its vast financial resources in an ongoing propaganda campaign to create the false belief system of "Peak Oil" and other fairy tales in order to maintain its control over and ability to manipulate the global energy commodities markets. As long as the masses continue to fall for this propaganda exercise then the energy industry will continue to perpetuate its current practices. +437 Peak Oil has nothing to do with oil running out. The fact you can't even get that right means you're not worth arguing with. Not one energy company even dares mention peak oil or peak anything, so all this crap about energy companies being in a conspiracy together to drive up prices is bullshit. Energy companies are ignoring the problem and hoping it will go away. Learn about EROEI Learn about Exponential growth Learn about Limits to growth fastawake is an idiot without a clue! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257011 United Kingdom 06/23/2011 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They estimate we use about 90million barrels of oil each day!. They built a system built around this black gold but they forgot to jot down a plan for when it runs out. Here is a tip, don't built a system that is dependant on a finite resource. Nobody knows how much oil is left, people like to think they do, but they don't. Oil reserves probably make the government think they are doing good by the people but the reality is if oil runs out or they can't afford to import anymore the reserves are going to last the blink of an eye. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257011There are alternate solutions, maybe we should just try to spend all the fuel asap so there's no other option then to convert to new types of fuel. They tend to spunk all the funding for alternative solutions on war and security... so fucking afraid of something, who knows what. It's ironic, but for me the people who will stand the test of time will be the tribal cultures. They live in balance with nature. I think the industrial age took us into a place (that as an animal) we were never going to be capable of controlling and we live in constant fear of failure. Sadly, I myself am petroleum man, take away my oil and I will probably whine like a son of a bitch, just like I am now :p |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1438567 United States 06/23/2011 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | get real! 60 millions barrels from world reserves. usa contributes 1/2 of the allocation or 30 million barrels. sad fact is, usa uses 28 million barrels/day and china uses more that usa now per day. now, go figure! Quoting: salmonrunActually the US uses about 18.7 million/day and China uses less than half of that. They are the largest emitter of carbon which is where you are getting confused. But that is because they use a lot of coal to run their power plants. But even then. You over estimated our usage by 10 million which makes you look ignorant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440515 United States 06/23/2011 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Quoting: centrist77Here is a confirmation link, I don't make things up on my little website. Everyone is still at a loss on this one. I think it will drive up prices in the long run becasue it indicates that we have a problem and people will all bet long on oil futures contracts now. Watch, those morons are either crazy or trying to derail us. It's the derail us one. |
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13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1332807 Australia 06/23/2011 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lindsay? lindsay william - is that you bro? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420716LOL. Man I can't stand how that guy talks. So f'n annoying. "And you know what he told me? He said "Lindsay...", and we were sitting right there in the same room at the time, he said, "Lindsay...", and he's the kind of man that when he speaks - you listen, he said, "Lindsay...", so you know something important is coming, he said, "Lindsay...", and we go back quite a number of years, so I know I can trust his word, he said, "Lindsay..." ...' GET ON WITH IT YOU FUCKING COCKHEAD DRAMA QUEEN! Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Stu User ID: 1379647 United States 06/23/2011 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose is to temporarily mask the growing effects of peak oil so that the economy has an artificial low energy price rebound. The reason it is being done now when prices are already dropping is it will take a few months of ripple effect for it to peak the artificial boost in the economy and Obama needs that to peak prior to the elections not after. The crashing economy is what is going to do in Obama more then anything else. The Bin Laden dog and pony show only helped things slightly for him so he needs much much more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387000So apparently they have finally stopped denying to themselves that peak oil is the root cause of our collapse and this is their bandaid for now. Problem is after the so called undulating plateau of ongoing economic catastophe it does a rocket ride straight down. No strategic reserve or any president no matter who they are can prevent that. Im shocked at all the admission of peak cheap oil in this thread...Ive been pounding on it for 3 years and got laughed at....knew ppl would wake up its all about flow rates not reserves The EIA and IEA throw reserves in the faces of the sheeple to hide the problem and hide declining production from the old giant super-fields _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440709 Australia 06/23/2011 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok here it is, I wrote it up on my website. Ready for the how stupid this is. Quoting: centrist77We are dumping 30,000,000 barrels of oil from US reserves onto the open market. Here is my link. [link to www.navigatethezoo.com] new form of oil less energy soon to be released |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440358 United States 06/23/2011 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose is to temporarily mask the growing effects of peak oil so that the economy has an artificial low energy price rebound. The reason it is being done now when prices are already dropping is it will take a few months of ripple effect for it to peak the artificial boost in the economy and Obama needs that to peak prior to the elections not after. The crashing economy is what is going to do in Obama more then anything else. The Bin Laden dog and pony show only helped things slightly for him so he needs much much more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387000So apparently they have finally stopped denying to themselves that peak oil is the root cause of our collapse and this is their bandaid for now. Problem is after the so called undulating plateau of ongoing economic catastophe it does a rocket ride straight down. No strategic reserve or any president no matter who they are can prevent that. Im shocked at all the admission of peak cheap oil in this thread...Ive been pounding on it for 3 years and got laughed at....knew ppl would wake up its all about flow rates not reserves The EIA and IEA throw reserves in the faces of the sheeple to hide the problem and hide declining production from the old giant super-fields yep Stu - the sheep seem to be looking up, but 200 years too late. and to the AC that said there are alternatives - no there aren't...1000 barrels a SECOND is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow - won't happen EVER. rocc |
Stu User ID: 1379647 United States 06/23/2011 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose is to temporarily mask the growing effects of peak oil so that the economy has an artificial low energy price rebound. The reason it is being done now when prices are already dropping is it will take a few months of ripple effect for it to peak the artificial boost in the economy and Obama needs that to peak prior to the elections not after. The crashing economy is what is going to do in Obama more then anything else. The Bin Laden dog and pony show only helped things slightly for him so he needs much much more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387000So apparently they have finally stopped denying to themselves that peak oil is the root cause of our collapse and this is their bandaid for now. Problem is after the so called undulating plateau of ongoing economic catastophe it does a rocket ride straight down. No strategic reserve or any president no matter who they are can prevent that. Im shocked at all the admission of peak cheap oil in this thread...Ive been pounding on it for 3 years and got laughed at....knew ppl would wake up its all about flow rates not reserves The EIA and IEA throw reserves in the faces of the sheeple to hide the problem and hide declining production from the old giant super-fields yep Stu - the sheep seem to be looking up, but 200 years too late. and to the AC that said there are alternatives - no there aren't...1000 barrels a SECOND is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow - won't happen EVER. rocc nothing replaces the energy packed in a portable, fungible barrel of oil...short of an equal or better energy source thats scalable The EREOI in barrel now reflects the worsening sawtooth economy forget the pipe dreams of renewable energy now on the table _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1439068 United Kingdom 06/23/2011 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do y'all think that recalling the military out of one place may be placing them in or near Libya? the call up of Marines that I have read on here may be for that, the opening of the reserves may be that we are getting ready to go to war in the next week or two? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431209I wouldn't be surprised. You know guys, I would think its a stretch, but today I was thinking about that huge drill off the east coast and if this could somehow be military. If it were military, it should not be that hard to track. I am not that computer savy but I know there are viewers on here that are. We need to track the boats that are taking the oil out of the SPR and where they are headed. I once saw someone on here that was tracking boats around the BP rigs and I don't know what site he was using but it was using the boats tracking beacons to monitor them. If its military, it would be bound for Europe,(which I beleive they already said that the oil is going to Europe). This would be logical in the case Europe were cut off from all those countries that provide them oil. hmmm... Have you got a location of the drill? map or name would help! Im in the uk so don't know of this drill, but will be able to track the shipping, and maybe do a bit of other investigating ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 642770 United States 06/23/2011 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top shorted but needed an excuse to hide behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311260The release of an insignificant amount of oil... The general population of braindead morons...you...will be forced to accept it. Why did oil cave? because the bottom...The general population of braindead morons...you...can't support the prices anymore. The top know this because...you all...supply the top with everything wholesale...they then mark it up and sell it to you retail. The top lives off the difference between the wholesale caost and the retail price. the top lives off the yield from the bottom. But you all can't continue paying the current retail prices anymore...so the retail prices have to drop. which means teh wholesale cost has to drop as well. The top who was raising the prices to begin were hiding behind the excuse all you brain dead morons currently believed. Needed to come up with an new excuse to replace the old excuse so you all don't realize that the top began shorting oil to drive the prices down. To extract yield...because the prices can't rise anymore. It's all a smoke an mirrors show... It's a sign the recovery or inflation out of the 2008 deflation is not working. Hypertiger? is it you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1248468 United States 06/23/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lindsay? lindsay william - is that you bro? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420716LOL. Man I can't stand how that guy talks. So f'n annoying. "And you know what he told me? He said "Lindsay...", and we were sitting right there in the same room at the time, he said, "Lindsay...", and he's the kind of man that when he speaks - you listen, he said, "Lindsay...", so you know something important is coming, he said, "Lindsay...", and we go back quite a number of years, so I know I can trust his word, he said, "Lindsay..." ...' GET ON WITH IT YOU FUCKING COCKHEAD DRAMA QUEEN! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1301991 United States 06/23/2011 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IEA SAYS TO RELEASE STOCKS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302693IEA SAYS TO RELEASE 60 MILLION BARRELS OVER COMING MONTHS IEA SAYS TO RELEASE STOCKS TO ENSURE SUPPLY DUE TO LIBYA IEA SAYS MEASURE TO ALLEVIATE LIBYA UNREST, IMPACT ON SUPPLY IEA SAYS 132 MILLION BARRELS LOST TO LIBYA IEA SAYS HIGH PRICES DAMAGE ECONOMY OF EVERY COUNTRY; IMPACT WORSE ON DEVELOPING COUNTRIES IEA SAYS VOTED FOR EMERGENCY RELEASE FOR ONLY THIRD TIME This^^ Remember, oil is the lever used to control prices on virtually all consumer goods. An oil spike close to $150 per barrel set off the subprime housing collapse as people had to choose whether to buy clothes and other optional goods, pay their house mortgage, or keep the car gassed up so they could get to work. Those with jobs chose the gas, which drove down demand for retail goods and caused foreclosures to ramp up. The rest is history. THIS is so true... and it was never addressed as any other issue in the housing collapse, but it is one of the major reasons!! Glad to see other get it - why do you think we have not hit $4 (for most of the country) yet since then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440517 United States 06/23/2011 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prices might drop a little in a month. But if they're only releasing 30 million barrels, it seems likely to have little or no impact. That's a day and a half of U.S. consumption. Quoting: gnosticWoo hoo. Yeah and when they start going back up, they'll skyrocket. We're going to want that SPR topped off for the next war. No one here including me was alive during WWII rationing. old man is 95 |
Stu User ID: 1379647 United States 06/23/2011 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oil is the one thing the TPTB cannot print so this was a sign of panic to get the price down and try to get the animal spirits going again so the sheep can spend, spend, spend on more mindless crap and "save" the economy what a joke _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440819 United States 06/23/2011 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The purpose is to temporarily mask the growing effects of peak oil so that the economy has an artificial low energy price rebound. The reason it is being done now when prices are already dropping is it will take a few months of ripple effect for it to peak the artificial boost in the economy and Obama needs that to peak prior to the elections not after. The crashing economy is what is going to do in Obama more then anything else. The Bin Laden dog and pony show only helped things slightly for him so he needs much much more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387000So apparently they have finally stopped denying to themselves that peak oil is the root cause of our collapse and this is their bandaid for now. Problem is after the so called undulating plateau of ongoing economic catastophe it does a rocket ride straight down. No strategic reserve or any president no matter who they are can prevent that. Im shocked at all the admission of peak cheap oil in this thread...Ive been pounding on it for 3 years and got laughed at....knew ppl would wake up its all about flow rates not reserves The EIA and IEA throw reserves in the faces of the sheeple to hide the problem and hide declining production from the old giant super-fields yep Stu - the sheep seem to be looking up, but 200 years too late. and to the AC that said there are alternatives - no there aren't...1000 barrels a SECOND is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow - won't happen EVER. rocc then what do ye suggest happen when there is no more oil? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395743 United States 06/24/2011 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top shorted but needed an excuse to hide behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311260The release of an insignificant amount of oil... The general population of braindead morons...you...will be forced to accept it. Why did oil cave? because the bottom...The general population of braindead morons...you...can't support the prices anymore. The top know this because...you all...supply the top with everything wholesale...they then mark it up and sell it to you retail. The top lives off the difference between the wholesale caost and the retail price. the top lives off the yield from the bottom. But you all can't continue paying the current retail prices anymore...so the retail prices have to drop. which means teh wholesale cost has to drop as well. The top who was raising the prices to begin were hiding behind the excuse all you brain dead morons currently believed. Needed to come up with an new excuse to replace the old excuse so you all don't realize that the top began shorting oil to drive the prices down. To extract yield...because the prices can't rise anymore. It's all a smoke an mirrors show... It's a sign the recovery or inflation out of the 2008 deflation is not working. I suppose by your post that all Americans are idiots. How easy it is for you to spout off from your luxurious suite in Canada. You must have a job or something. Us American idiots have done fine without any help from you so far. If we ever need anything we sure as hell won't call you, unless we need some snow dug out from under our Corvette. BTW, where the hell is Canada anyway? Actually, we get plenty of help from Canada. America couldn't be a contender in the nuclear playground without them. Care to guess who is one of the biggest miners/exporters of Uranium? Now guess who buys most of it from them. While not all Americans are idiots, we certainly have an overabundance. And I suppose you think you are not one of them. |
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Stu User ID: 1379647 United States 06/24/2011 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312941 once things get going Russia and China armies will march to the oil fields of Iran and Saudi Arabia after we retreat from Afghanistan making the German blitzkrieg look like childs play...then Israel is forced to make peace _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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