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How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?

 
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How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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You answered your own question: they don't have an open mind and the idea that there's even a remote chance that they are wrong scares the shit out of them. That's why they are programmed not to think for themselves.
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Simple. Satan is the great imitator. Satan knew Jesus would be sent to earth and therefore replicated similarities to this dozens of times to confuse those who are blind to the Bible.
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Takes courage to admit that one may have led their whole life be-lie-ving in something that was created to lead them astray.
When one finally admits it and starts looking for the truth, then you are set free.....FREE.....
The day will come when they will let go just as the rest of us have.....let them find out for themselves is all they need!
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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Clearly God keeps sending the same message through many servants and sons and gurus and teachers.

The stars send the same message also.

Christians are complete deluded in thinking Jesus is the only way. Jesus actually said: "I AM is the way the truth and life" not I, Jesus, am the only way the truth and the life. Besides, Jesus was already one with the Christ when he said that so it still doesn't meant Jesus is the Only way.

BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE!
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
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Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
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Clearly God keeps sending the same message through many servants and sons and gurus and teachers.

The stars send the same message also.

Christians are complete deluded in thinking Jesus is the only way. Jesus actually said: "I AM is the way the truth and life" not I, Jesus, am the only way the truth and the life. Besides, Jesus was already one with the Christ when he said that so it still doesn't meant Jesus is the Only way.

BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE!
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I'm wondering people can use a word like "deluded" and not even see it's manifestation in themselves as they spew nonsense.

"stars, gurus, teachers" ........ oh my!



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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Simple. Satan is the great imitator. Satan knew Jesus would be sent to earth and therefore replicated similarities to this dozens of times to confuse those who are blind to the Bible.
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Both of these attempts at an explanation are wrong.

It has to do with the nature of myths and symbols.
These arise spontaneously- not as products of human
imagination, but of the collective unconscious acting
on our imagination.

The fact that people were willing to die testifying to
the truth of their experiences, not only underscores
the difference between moderns and ancients, but makes
their accounts more believable!

These symbolic manifestations of the collective unconscious
haven't just mysteriously disappeared; they continue to
appear to people all over the world. Sometimes they appear
as aliens and abduct people, other times they may appear
as Virgin Mary type apparitions, or demonic/angelic messenger phenomena, and some even more outlandish forms.

The question isn't as new as the internet community might
suppose. It has been asked for millennia and the very
existence of the scope and similarities of the phenomena
over the ages and across the world should be evidence in favor of the truth of the myths, not misinterpreted as
any kind of proof against them. They simply must be taken
as they are, unless you can somehow put the people on trial who have made these claims- and even then you won't be
able to make heads, or tails, of what they are trying to
testify to.
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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
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Better question..... where is your proof that he is not real?
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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
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Better question..... where is your proof that he is not real?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Nice try smarty pants. If you assert the existence of something, then it is you who is required to provide proof.
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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
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Thanks for your reply,

The thread appears to be looking for responses from Christians. Christians believe satan is real.

peace,
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
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it's actually harder to prove he doesn't exist. Heck, it's way harder to prove that you exist, while mounting evidence of Satan spreads all over the world at an alarming rate.
1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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Takes courage to admit that one may have led their whole life be-lie-ving in something that was created to lead them astray.
When one finally admits it and starts looking for the truth, then you are set free.....FREE.....
The day will come when they will let go just as the rest of us have.....let them find out for themselves is all they need!
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Sorry AC, I had to correct your grievous and incorrect statement.

It takes courage to admit that they were to blind to see the truth when it stood before them and have been blinded by TPTB and the rulers of this world.

Moreover,they have refused the truth, its works, proofs and miracles ,so much so, that they have led their whole life in denial of something that was created to save them, for the word became flesh and walked among men.

When one finally admits it and starts looking for the truth, then you are set free.....FREE.....through Jesus Christ.

The day will come when they, the deniers, will realize and believe just as the rest of us have.....so until that day let the deniers find out for themselves when they stand before the King of Kings, as all of us must!

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Oh, it's a very EASY question to answer......

Who came to earth first, Satan or Jesus?

Did Satan know Jesus before Satan came to earth?

If Satan knew Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit before coming to earth, did he know how They operate and what They Require?

If Satan had that knowledge...... pay attention now, all of you disinfo agents because you are doing the same thing here while trying to fool the readers.......if Satan had this knowledge, then could he create all of the false "religions" around the world before Jesus arrived?

See how EASY that was?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Your argument here depends on the premise that Satan is real.

What is your proof that Satan is real?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443932


Better question..... where is your proof that he is not real?
 Quoting: Smith_and_Jones

Nice try smarty pants. If you assert the existence of something, then it is you who is required to provide proof.
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Smarty pants??? Ha Ha ha......

Proof? You want proof? Why do the non-believers always demand proof from the believers?

Non-believers make me laugh. In their ignorance they proclaim themselves to be wise.

OK, non-believers, pretend I'm a young person who is seeking the meaning of life. I don't know what to think or what to believe. Please help me decide.

Where did we come from?

Where do we go when we die?

How do people know what is true and what is not true?

Do you have absolute answers that are obvious to people once you tell them, or do people need to take your answers on faith?

If your answers require faith, why should we have faith in you instead of the Bible?

If the Bible is wrong, but we believed it, what is our penalty for believing it when we die?

If the Bible is true, but people don't believe it, what is their penalty for not believing it when they die?

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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Clearly God keeps sending the same message through many servants and sons and gurus and teachers.

The stars send the same message also.

Christians are complete deluded in thinking Jesus is the only way. Jesus actually said: "I AM is the way the truth and life" not I, Jesus, am the only way the truth and the life. Besides, Jesus was already one with the Christ when he said that so it still doesn't meant Jesus is the Only way.

BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE!
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You clearly do not know the Bible.

Jesus said , I am am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the father (God) but by me.
"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."--Matthew 24:37
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The Christ. Is a universal concept. The Christus, actually refers in part to your pineal which is crystalin and is your connection, in part, because in truth, your soul can compsensate, and Family can intercede even if this is damaged.

The rainbow bridge is a symbol for the unity you need to seek between your left hemisphere and the right side. For our hemispheres were altered and made to have a bit of a barrier between them, so we need to seek, and push against the currents of life, to find our way, struggle to improve and grow.

In all the religions and spiritual writings, tptb, coded two paths, the smiting warring god and the savior, forgiveness, understanding others, kindness and service to others.

When they were picking their new sungod, they chose a man who really had incarnated to show us the way back home, who was his Higher Self, Family in the world, immanuel, superman in the system, or who was very connected, and at a stage where he could help. His words had truth, and drew large crowds.

Christ Yeshua, whether metaphor or real, shows us the way. Yeshua ben Joseph did exist however. I believe he is both metaphor, and real.

I believe he came more than once, but several times, in different ages to help.

They point to the cycle of the sun, and how it hangs on the cross in December.

If you knew what the sun was, this would be understood, for all things are made, to shine the light to us in the darkness.
The solar system was constructed with that principle.

Our spiritual home was create first beyond the cosmos, and the sun/stars, are the projectors for the Light that streams in, and a mirror for such a great Light would be too intense to stand in. So that our creation was made to reflect, as if a shadow of our true home, and in a highly interactive school, hanging in the balance, midway point, between light and dark, metaphorically, in that we have CHOICE, but that our actions can tip it into the dark squares or the light squares. So we could turn the school into paradise or a fascist hellzone of wars, and suffering.

Its all a test.

Yeshua shows the way back home.

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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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..

applause2applause2


You answered your own question: they don't have an open mind and the idea that there's even a remote chance that they are wrong scares the shit out of them. That's why they are programmed not to think for themselves.

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The Christ. Is a universal concept. The Christus, actually refers in part to your pineal which is crystalin and is your connection, in part, because in truth, your soul can compsensate, and Family can intercede even if this is damaged.

The rainbow bridge is a symbol for the unity you need to seek between your left hemisphere and the right side. For our hemispheres were altered and made to have a bit of a barrier between them, so we need to seek, and push against the currents of life, to find our way, struggle to improve and grow.

In all the religions and spiritual writings, tptb, coded two paths, the smiting warring god and the savior, forgiveness, understanding others, kindness and service to others.

When they were picking their new sungod, they chose a man who really had incarnated to show us the way back home, who was his Higher Self, Family in the world, immanuel, superman in the system, or who was very connected, and at a stage where he could help. His words had truth, and drew large crowds.

Christ Yeshua, whether metaphor or real, shows us the way. Yeshua ben Joseph did exist however. I believe he is both metaphor, and real.

I believe he came more than once, but several times, in different ages to help.

They point to the cycle of the sun, and how it hangs on the cross in December.

If you knew what the sun was, this would be understood, for all things are made, to shine the light to us in the darkness.
The solar system was constructed with that principle.

Our spiritual home was create first beyond the cosmos, and the sun/stars, are the projectors for the Light that streams in, and a mirror for such a great Light would be too intense to stand in. So that our creation was made to reflect, as if a shadow of our true home, and in a highly interactive school, hanging in the balance, midway point, between light and dark, metaphorically, in that we have CHOICE, but that our actions can tip it into the dark squares or the light squares. So we could turn the school into paradise or a fascist hellzone of wars, and suffering.

Its all a test.

Yeshua shows the way back home.
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You're fried.
"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."--Matthew 24:37
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When I was a "christian" I had an intense interest in ancient civilizations. I would read everything I could on my favorite civilizations. I came to see that non abrahamic religions played a major role in these cultures. So I began researching this subject as well. It was just a matter of time before I rightfully came to the conclusion that christianity was a continuation of previous myths. Thats how I became an atheist. So if you religioustards want to keep your faith dont read about history B.C.
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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OP, you are chewing the chewed
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When I was a "christian" I had an intense interest in ancient civilizations. I would read everything I could on my favorite civilizations. I came to see that non abrahamic religions played a major role in these cultures. So I began researching this subject as well. It was just a matter of time before I rightfully came to the conclusion that christianity was a continuation of previous myths. Thats how I became an atheist. So if you religioustards want to keep your faith dont read about history B.C.
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You didn't read nearly enough. See The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Easy synchronicity:

Notice that one of these myths is of Quetzalcoatl which came about in complete isolation to the others but was on the opposite side of the Atlantic. If God did appear as a man, and we take the idea of an occult/supernatural as a possibility, I'd expect that an event that powerful might impinge on the collective subconscious before hand.
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Seems obvious to anyone with an open mind that the same story is being rehashed over and over but somehow this time "it's true."
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Simple. Satan is the great imitator. Satan knew Jesus would be sent to earth and therefore replicated similarities to this dozens of times to confuse those who are blind to the Bible.
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well, we're waiting for the 2nd coming right now;

where is satan ???

why isn't he here now, imitating jesus again ???

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When I was a "christian" I had an intense interest in ancient civilizations. I would read everything I could on my favorite civilizations. I came to see that non abrahamic religions played a major role in these cultures. So I began researching this subject as well. It was just a matter of time before I rightfully came to the conclusion that christianity was a continuation of previous myths. Thats how I became an atheist. So if you religioustards want to keep your faith dont read about history B.C.
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You didn't read nearly enough. See The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.
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Comparative religion can affect or even break your faith.
Read Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection.
Lee Strobel is an apologist without any training in archeology and lacks knowledge about ancient mythology.
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Hundreds of years from now, they may look back and say "why is the story of <insert new christ figure> so similar to the story of jesus from long ago?"
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Hundreds of years from now, they may look back and say "why is the story of <insert new christ figure> so similar to the story of jesus from long ago?"
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Great, instead of Christians, we'll probably end up with with Cruisetians, lol
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Re: How do Christians explain the similarities between Jesus and Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, etc?
Mithra was created by Zoroaster. Dates proposed for Zoroaster's birth range from 1750 to 500 BCE
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Likley after the prophecy's of Moses and other older Jewish prophets. Please show any similarity as I can't find them.

As for your other two examples
Osiris has no commonality so I think your trying to muddy the water for fellow idiots.

It is utter blasphemy to compare Jesus to the drunken god.

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