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Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?

 
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Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
Has to be the movie Deliverance right?

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lolatu
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dumb
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dumb
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C'mon. You're from Kentucky so you should know.
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dumb
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C'mon. You're from Kentucky so you should know.
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Yet another Dumb comment. Have you considered growing up?
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
Fail on so many levels

Enjoy the bump, attention whore
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
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This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
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I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
Just in case you lost your handbook of standard demonization operations I'll post the summary below.

Your currently engaged in #5.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it—especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning—simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues—so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the “high road” and “confess” with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made—but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, “just isn’t so.” Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for “coming clean” and “owning up” to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
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I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444465


U2.
See above post #5
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
Can't you just see that guy at 10 seconds saying "Where's da birf certificate?"
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Can't you just see that guy at 10 seconds saying "Where's da birf certificate?"
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see #5
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


If you knew anything about history, you'd know those are Southern Democrats. Try getting an education before making such a fool of yourself.
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


If you knew anything about history, you'd know those are Southern Democrats. Try getting an education before making such a fool of yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377357


Umm....Ok. I'm sure President Obama will be able to count on their kind voting for him next year.

norespect
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


If you knew anything about history, you'd know those are Southern Democrats. Try getting an education before making such a fool of yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377357


Who are now all republikans thanks to the Southern Strategy.

Fool.
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444465


U2.
See above post #5
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What are you, the fucking hall monitor?
stfu

Nobody cares about your damn list!
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I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444465


U2.
See above post #5
 Quoting: tkwasny


What are you, the fucking hall monitor?
stfu

Nobody cares about your damn list!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444491


So how are the halls of the White House there buddy? Sux to have your tactics all layed out for everyone to see isn't it?

So much anger when exposed in the light of truth.
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It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444465


U2.
See above post #5
 Quoting: tkwasny


What are you, the fucking hall monitor?
stfu

Nobody cares about your damn list!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444491


So how are the halls of the White House there buddy? Sux to have your tactics all layed out for everyone to see isn't it?

So much anger when exposed in the light of truth.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Are you kidding me? You conservatards simultaneously call the President both a muslim and communist and you have the gall to lecture about name-calling?
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
But us republicans is what loves America the better than all you them stupid democrat librals!

Us republicans no what is like to fight for Uncle Sam! And we no how ta vote! And we vote for good guys lik George Bush and George Bush (from Texas, mothafucka!) and we do vote Mccain (war hero, mothafucka!). Who do demcrats vote for? Clinton the guy who fucks anything??? Ha!

republicans save America cause we LOVE it! LOVE IT OR LEAF IT, Shithead libral!

Damn - I done did burn yur ass, dumfuck libral demcrat! America Kicks ASS! We NEVER LOOSE WHEN WE FIGHT AND INVADE CUNTRIES!
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
This is why we shouldn't place people in groups or categories, because people like the OP are too ignorant to judge people as individuals. This division tactic is a trick placed on us by the political establishment a long time ago and the OP is continuing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403713


I'm sorry but this is very typical of your average Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444129


It's one of several types of republikans.

There are redneck repubs, sissy bow-tie repubs, country club repubs, evil billionaire repubs, dittohead sheep, militia terrorist repubs, etc.

What they all have in common is that they're pigs.
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Just change the ideology to ...

There are redneck libs, many sissy bow-tie libs, numerous country club libss, ultra evil billionaire libs (Soros comes to mind), Madow sheep, enviro terrorist dems, etc.

See it goes both ways ...
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Re: Most accurate portrayal of conservatards ever?
yeah

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