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When can we expect to see NIBIRU/PLANET X with the naked eye | |
CosmoKramer  User ID: 13206618  United States05/07/2012 12:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume if "Nibiru" is real, EVERYONE world wide will eventually see it with the naked eye. I am told it will look like a second sun in the sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184988 When is this date? Yesterday you missed it Few will listen, Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand, Understanding does not mean believe, Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do, Those who even know, how many will actually do ? And the rare ones who have done it....... Need not listen to you anymore. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1174680 United States05/07/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You won't be able to see "it"until it is right on top of us and even then it'll be so quick in most cases you won't know what hit you. Survivors will know that their world has been irrevocably changed, however and will adjust to life accordingly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1174680 so, a brown dwarf wont be visible until it is right on top of us.... Yeah, that makes sense..... Please read the rest of the thread as to why you are wrong. Oh sweety... I have been on this thing far longer than you so don't go there. It's not a brown dwarf and it's out there we just haven't felt it's effects in several thousand years. It doesn't even come that close just close enough to effect everything in the solar system as well as her brother, the sun. Think of it as a dead sun, or red dwarf/black cinder and read up on it. The info is out there. Namaste. Satya Yuga   |
| jacksprat User ID: 1420740  Canada05/07/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume if "Nibiru" is real, EVERYONE world wide will eventually see it with the naked eye. I am told it will look like a second sun in the sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184988 When is this date? There is no date. Nibiru/Planet X don't exist. there is , the date is what the Mayans have said all along Dec 21, 2012 end of time, dimensional shift jacksprat |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15582870 United States05/07/2012 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate? It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate: [link to archive.stsci.edu] And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light: [link to archive.stsci.edu] It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away. A brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here. Roughly 80% of solar systems are binary. Quoting: ACAnother myth to bust. Most solar systems in our galaxy are single. [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] In fact, only about 9% of stars in the stellar neighborhood have widely separated binaries (semi-major axis >200 AU), as "Nibiru" would be. [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] The morons who jump on these threads to piss on facts are going to be in for one hell of a surprise in late August. Quoting: ACYour "facts" are false, and when there's still no "brown dwarf" to be seen in August I'm betting you're not going to man up to your prediction and admit you were wrong. Good riddance actually, these are the sheep that will be looking for food and shelter because they were too busy telling everyone that they were crazy, and no such thing as binary stars....idiots. Quoting: ACI dare you to show me any debunker who said "there's no such thing as binary stars." I have never seen anyone say that, maybe I missed it. Show me because I would love to debunk that false claim. Dude, Why are you still wasting your time on these Niburu yellers? If its real we will see it soon enough. If not they will crawl back under their rocks. I just keep an open mind so if it really comes it wont be a shocker. And if it doesn't ..... and what is there to keep an open mind about? If nibiru existed, there would be effects. There is a difference between believing something CAN exist and believing something DOES exist. CAN nibiru exist? as described, not likely, but brown dwarves can and do exist. Does nibiru exist? the massive lack of evidence, especially where one would expect it, says no. We also exclude black holes, or other stars existing in our solar system because of the lack of evidence. We ARE talking about a mundane (in the sense that it is not degenerate or exotic matter) astronomical object here. its not like it follows the rules of the Lord of the Rings or something. Its basic physics. What to clarify I am in way A Nibiru fanatic which I view as being close to religious fervor . There is some circumstantial evidence that we could be part of a dark star binary which would technically be in the solar system if we were binary . Walter Cruttenden had published several papers that argue Sedna's highly elliptical orbit is very unusual, but noted that the orbit period of 12,000 years is in neat resonance with the expected orbit periodicity of a companion star, However I make no pretense this said object would ever approach the "inner solar system" . (which is not a possibility) This can be reduced to a certainty because the planets would not be able to have stable orbits. (at the very least for some hundreds of millions of years, as life has existed on this planet for that long , and thus must have existed in its current " Goldilocks" temperature zone, unaffected by a massive invader freaking star .) Brown and Whitmore's papers are also used as an absurd support transitive logical fallacy mechanism . In short if there is any invader that reoccurs and the ancients have knowledge of it COULD not be a brown dwarf. Better to focus this line of thought on a more Harrington sized object or even smaller |
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| jacksprat User ID: 1420740 Canada05/07/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but we are not fully manifested in a 4d world yet, if we were then thought + emotions = manifest instantly, there would be more chaos then you would see now on this planet. jacksprat |
| kcdub0184 User ID: 13694191 United States05/07/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simply no gravitational evidence? What about the info put out in 1983 by astronomers that there was a massive object pulling other planets slightly out of there orbit? What about the info on every ancient text and religion. Yes i know its not the "norm" and im not saying its real or not but from a logical stand point it is more than realistic. It could have a highly eliptical 3000 yr orbit or smthn crazy. Wake up the gov will nt tell us shit alls we have it signs to look at like what are the govs doing...are they preparing on a large scale....FKKK YES THEY ARE! SO ITS BLUNTLY OBVIOUS "SOMETHING" IS SOON TO HAPPEN ON ANOTHER LEVEL THEN WE USED TOO ~the secret to life is to AwakeN before death~(realizing there is no death)~ ~How would you approach life if you knew your every thought/emotion dictated every aspect of your projected physical reality?~ |
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| woowoochic User ID: 1353340 United States05/07/2012 12:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since this month is already chock full o doom....lets just add some more - my vote is for this month!!! Quoting: woowoochic  Bah, since we are going with the types of doom generally seen on GLP, why not go fantastic... It ALREADY happened. Our existence is over and we are simply replaying the echoes of the mystical energy that boun...oh fuck this...im not a nibirutard...or one of those woo-woo types, and this just hurts my head to try to come up with the level of bullshit that is usually associated with these things. reading your post hurt my head |
| jacksprat User ID: 1420740 Canada05/07/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simply no gravitational evidence? What about the info put out in 1983 by astronomers that there was a massive object pulling other planets slightly out of there orbit? What about the info on every ancient text and religion. Yes i know its not the "norm" and im not saying its real or not but from a logical stand point it is more than realistic. It could have a highly eliptical 3000 yr orbit or smthn crazy. Wake up the gov will nt tell us shit alls we have it signs to look at like what are the govs doing...are they preparing on a large scale....FKKK YES THEY ARE! SO ITS BLUNTLY OBVIOUS "SOMETHING" IS SOON TO HAPPEN ON ANOTHER LEVEL THEN WE USED TOO excellent points in my opinion I think Drunvalo is correct, we are about to pass through the void and enter a total new world, another dimension the test is now, so prepare your thoughts and heart jacksprat |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10231506 United States05/07/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate? It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate: [link to archive.stsci.edu] And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light: [link to archive.stsci.edu] It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away. A brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here. ... Another myth to bust. Most solar systems in our galaxy are single. [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] In fact, only about 9% of stars in the stellar neighborhood have widely separated binaries (semi-major axis >200 AU), as "Nibiru" would be. [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] ... Your "facts" are false, and when there's still no "brown dwarf" to be seen in August I'm betting you're not going to man up to your prediction and admit you were wrong. ... I dare you to show me any debunker who said "there's no such thing as binary stars." I have never seen anyone say that, maybe I missed it. Show me because I would love to debunk that false claim. Dude, Why are you still wasting your time on these Niburu yellers? If its real we will see it soon enough. If not they will crawl back under their rocks. I just keep an open mind so if it really comes it wont be a shocker. And if it doesn't ..... and what is there to keep an open mind about? If nibiru existed, there would be effects. There is a difference between believing something CAN exist and believing something DOES exist. CAN nibiru exist? as described, not likely, but brown dwarves can and do exist. Does nibiru exist? the massive lack of evidence, especially where one would expect it, says no. We also exclude black holes, or other stars existing in our solar system because of the lack of evidence. We ARE talking about a mundane (in the sense that it is not degenerate or exotic matter) astronomical object here. its not like it follows the rules of the Lord of the Rings or something. Its basic physics. What to clarify I am in way A Nibiru fanatic which I view as being close to religious fervor . There is some circumstantial evidence that we could be part of a dark star binary which would technically be in the solar system if we were binary . Walter Cruttenden had published several papers that argue Sedna's highly elliptical orbit is very unusual, but noted that the orbit period of 12,000 years is in neat resonance with the expected orbit periodicity of a companion star, However I make no pretense this said object would ever approach the "inner solar system" . (which is not a possibility) This can be reduced to a certainty because the planets would not be able to have stable orbits. (at the very least for some hundreds of millions of years, as life has existed on this planet for that long , and thus must have existed in its current " Goldilocks" temperature zone, unaffected by a massive invader freaking star .) Brown and Whitmore's papers are also used as an absurd support transitive logical fallacy mechanism . In short if there is any invader that reoccurs and the ancients have knowledge of it COULD not be a brown dwarf. Better to focus this line of thought on a more Harrington sized object or even smaller If you are speaking of a companion brown dwarf at a distance of like 50,000 AU, then yeah its a possibility. We might not be able to distinguish a body like that from something farther out just based on the infrared, which is likely to be one of the few bits of the spectrum that the thing would radiate. But we should be able to see it, especially now with spitzer. Hell, even hubble had some infrared capability that could have picked it up. Also, while sedna could be explained by a binary companion, it could also be explained by a one time tug from a passing, more massive star. The problem with sedna is we simply dont understand it or its orbit well enough to make any real solid statements about it or what caused its orbit. However, I do agree that IF the sun has a companion, the idea of it passing even within the orbit of the kupier belt would be a huge issue for stable planetary orbits. And a rogue brown dwarf coming in is a possibility, but again, we would be able to see it, ESPECIALLY if its in the visible solar system. Hell, we would probably be able to see something like that out to sedna, given the sheer size of the damn thing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15558166 United States05/07/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I SAY because those I am partnered with KNOW. were are around 4.15 still AND again, the brown dwarf is not planet x/ Nibiru. you can read HERE: WE do provide the WHAT IS on this stuff. Thread: Nibiru is not here plus an archive of my posts. |
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| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 11757475  Netherlands05/07/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Real things have detectable properties. Real celestial objects reflect light, have a temperature, and have mass that influences other objects. They also have to follow Kepler's Laws. Any object falling in from deep space, or in a highly eccentric orbit, that will arrive in Earth's neighbourhood before the end of this year would have been close enough to detect decades ago if it were anywhere close to planetary size. Since we haven't Nibiru needs to have all kinds of properties that are inconsistent with any real object. Transparent, massless, etc. Nibirism is basically a believe in magic.  Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 05/07/2012 12:53 PM Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| jacksprat User ID: 1420740 Canada05/07/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I SAY because those I am partnered with KNOW. were are around 4.15 still i think you are getting confused with 4 density or consciousness a dimension is a totally different vibration or frequency, like when you use the radio and change the dial to a different channel, you get a totally different signal jacksprat |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10231506 United States05/07/2012 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simply no gravitational evidence? What about the info put out in 1983 by astronomers that there was a massive object pulling other planets slightly out of there orbit? What about the info on every ancient text and religion. Yes i know its not the "norm" and im not saying its real or not but from a logical stand point it is more than realistic. It could have a highly eliptical 3000 yr orbit or smthn crazy. Wake up the gov will nt tell us shit alls we have it signs to look at like what are the govs doing...are they preparing on a large scale....FKKK YES THEY ARE! SO ITS BLUNTLY OBVIOUS "SOMETHING" IS SOON TO HAPPEN ON ANOTHER LEVEL THEN WE USED TOO no, there is no gravitational evidence to support a brown dwarf dipping into the mapped solar system. If it were visible and as bright as the religious texts report, there would have been some MAJOR gravitational disturbances that would have had effects on our orbit, along with damn near every other body in the inner solar system. Brown dwarves are MASSIVE objects. Jupiter has a hell of a pull, and we are talking objects that START at 13 times the mass of jupiter. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10231506 United States05/07/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Real things have detectable properties. Real celestial object reflect light, have a temperature, and have mass that influences other objects. They also have to follow Kepler's Laws. Any object falling in from deep space, or in a highly eccentric orbit, that will arrive in Earth's neighbourhood before the end of this year would have been close enough to detect decades ago if it were anywhere close to planetary size. Since we haven't Nibiru needs to have all kinds of properties that are inconsistent with any real object. Transparent, massless, etc. Nibirism is basically a believe in magic. this. FOR THE FUCKING WIN. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10231506 United States05/07/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In fact, only about 9% of stars in the stellar neighborhood have widely separated binaries (semi-major axis >200 AU), as "Nibiru" would be Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4348940 This guy use to be a neighborhood organizer too. Correct. The statistic that 80% of all stars are in binary sets, while true, is misleading, specifically because of this. Thanks for that bit of info. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15582870 United States05/07/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simply no gravitational evidence? What about the info put out in 1983 by astronomers that there was a massive object pulling other planets slightly out of there orbit? What about the info on every ancient text and religion. Yes i know its not the "norm" and im not saying its real or not but from a logical stand point it is more than realistic. It could have a highly eliptical 3000 yr orbit or smthn crazy. Wake up the gov will nt tell us shit alls we have it signs to look at like what are the govs doing...are they preparing on a large scale....FKKK YES THEY ARE! SO ITS BLUNTLY OBVIOUS "SOMETHING" IS SOON TO HAPPEN ON ANOTHER LEVEL THEN WE USED TOO no, there is no gravitational evidence to support a brown dwarf dipping into the mapped solar system. If it were visible and as bright as the religious texts report, there would have been some MAJOR gravitational disturbances that would have had effects on our orbit, along with damn near every other body in the inner solar system. Brown dwarves are MASSIVE objects. Jupiter has a hell of a pull, and we are talking objects that START at 13 times the mass of jupiter. "Mapped" or inner solar system is the key phrase here.And also not only, Which I want to clarify does reduce the Nibiru theory (As far as brown dwarfs are concerned) to an absurdity . But as Brown dwarfs as small as 3 to 4 Jupiter masses have been found, which was once thought not possible, there is the possibility and some circumstantial evidence of our Suns binary when one examines periodic comets and Sednas orbit.However Nibirutards hijacking Brown and Whitemore without fully understanding it is just silly . |
| Daersoulkeeper User ID: 1159767 United States05/07/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please explain why the brown dwarf 2MASS J16452211-1319516 is visible on a regular visible red light sensitive film plate on the palomar sky survey, not just the infrared sensitive plate? It's the star near the center of the image here on the infrared plate: [link to archive.stsci.edu] And here's the same brown dwarf in visible red light: [link to archive.stsci.edu] It's much dimmer relative to the other stars in visible light, but it's still detectable, and that's from 39 light years away using just a regular red sensitive film plate! Yes, you do need a sizeable telescope and very sensitive imager to detect a brown dwarf that far away, but Nibiru's not supposed to be nearly that far away. A brown dwarf star in our solar system would also reflect sunlight just fine. It reflect as much light as Uranus at worst, Jupiter at best ( [link to arxiv.org] ) making it an easy naked-eye object if one were anywhere near here. Roughly 80% of solar systems are binary. Quoting: ACAnother myth to bust. Most solar systems in our galaxy are single. [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] In fact, only about 9% of stars in the stellar neighborhood have widely separated binaries (semi-major axis >200 AU), as "Nibiru" would be. [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] The morons who jump on these threads to piss on facts are going to be in for one hell of a surprise in late August. Quoting: ACYour "facts" are false, and when there's still no "brown dwarf" to be seen in August I'm betting you're not going to man up to your prediction and admit you were wrong. Good riddance actually, these are the sheep that will be looking for food and shelter because they were too busy telling everyone that they were crazy, and no such thing as binary stars....idiots. Quoting: ACI dare you to show me any debunker who said "there's no such thing as binary stars." I have never seen anyone say that, maybe I missed it. Show me because I would love to debunk that false claim. i love how astromut jumps on these type of threads faster than thor himself and is so thorough in picking apart each sentence to say NO YOUR WRONG NOPE NOT THAT EITHER NO NO NO NO NO SHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the TELL-LIE-VISION television when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision tell lie vision |
