When can we expect to see NIBIRU/PLANET X with the naked eye

i never said anything about the south pole .
i am not a hard core nibiru fan
they are hiding something in our skies.
and have made massive plans for survival
and detainment of the u.s people after this
happens because they know we will overtake them
and take our goverment back.

a little off topic, but do not some people scientist believe the earth system is part of the Sag galaxy originally ? Or at least there is enough evidence to argue this if I understand the issue correctly of whom ate whom

See the moon...there's your planet X

I'm sure you're reading, here is more, just for you OPi
(shills will jump to their nonsense anyway)

We of the overarching Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy have finally come down next to, and even with the massively powerful spiral armed equatorial plane of the Milky Way Galaxy.

In our movement through space, our Earth has now fully begun to respond to the more powerful galactic energies and electro-gravitational bias of the massive Milky Way. We have reached the higher energy equatorial disc region of the massive spiral arm. We have now been "adopted" by a new system, a stronger and more powerful system, and we can expect changes on almost every level of energy.

Whatever these changes are, they are all part of the natural birth, death, rebirth and transformation of the cosmos.
As our knowledge of the universe grows, we cannot but understand how much we do not understand. Such is life.

there is a difference between something happening and our ability to record it.

The simple abundance of sensors placed all around the world, combined with more and more people having access to the internet, means that previously remote incidences that might not be reported are more likely to be, increasing the data points.

And earthquakes happen ALL THE TIME. Literally, all the time.

And the sun is not bipolar or quadropolar, it has MULTIPLE poles, and always has. It IS a large ball of hot charged gas, after all.

Here is a visual of the sun's magnetic field, just for reference:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

They are not mutually inclusive to each-other,Just because someone does not believe that the Nibiru hypothesis is tenable does not mean they do not notice things happening on earth . Even if one assumes warning signs, That is not evidence for a Nibiru hypothesis .Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence .
The fact of the matter is Nibiruheads ignoring basic celestial mechanics and common sense is much more damaging as Adhominem attacks if you want to go there

You argued with me and said it was "basic common sense" in response to my reply that there could not be a conspiracy regarding the visibility of the southern sky in Antarctica vs other southern hemisphere locations.

Where, what coordinates. Last I checked I had free reign to observe wherever I wish.

Trolls are all over this post. You can tell because they are the ones still protesting the world is normal...no abnormalities period lol. Troll on boys and gals for the ones who can drop there ego know what time it is.

But dont fear. Watever is going to happen will happen and death is nothing to fear. The evil in this world are the only ones eho shld be fearing anything period. Live/love/ look within for answers dont believe what i or anyone else tells u period. And dont be suprised when ahit goes down because it will.

ok keep believing contrails dont expand into clouds around the sun everyday shill or sheep i do not care which , on normal flightpaths back and forth blocking the sun , but no they are not hiding anything ha ! the american people are not that dumb

Last Edited by TruTh HunTer on 05/07/2012 04:29 PM

No. Our solar system's velocity is contained almost entirely in the V vector, perpendicular to the Sagittarius dwarf and within the milk way's galactic plane.

"Thus (Fig. 2) the motions of Sgr stars within this plane are almost entirely contained in their Galactic U and W velocity components, whereas the V motions of stars in the Sgr tidal tails almost entirely reflect solar motion."
[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]

The U V W velocity of our solar system is 10.1, 224, 6.7 km/sec as can be seen here:
[link to ej.iop.org]
(taken from here: [link to iopscience.iop.org] )
That means we're not part of the sagittarius stream as we do not share a common motion of travel at all.

Exactly, the recorded history of earthquakes and volcanoes is just too small a sample size in the grand geological history of earth . A spike ? relative to what exactly ? the last hundred years ?

You cant use science to justify any of the norm because there are newly discovered planets/object and scientific equations ona daily. Im not saying it does or does not exist nor am i saying all these changes are corrilated to another.

So, magic.

If one has to invoke magic in order to explain something, that explanation is likely bullshit.

If one has to invoke magic in ordet to explain a thing's existence, that thing likely does not exist.

You are doing both.

so, I call bullshit.

Oh, and technically, all people have more than 5 senses (from todayifoundout.com):

The commonly held human senses are as follows:

Sight: This technically is two senses given the two distinct types of receptors present, one for color (cones) and one for brightness (rods).

Taste: This is sometimes argued to be five senses by itself due to the differing types of taste receptors (sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and umami), but generally is just referred to as one sense. For those who don’t know, umami receptors detect the amino acid glutamate, which is a taste generally found in meat and some artificial flavoring. The taste sense, unlike sight, is a sense based off of a chemical reaction

Touch: This has been found to be distinct from pressure, temperature, pain, and even itch sensors.

Pressure: Obvious sense is obvious.
Itch: Surprisingly, this is a distinct sensor system from other touch-related senses.

Thermoception: Ability to sense heat and cold. This also is thought of as more than one sense. This is not just because of the two hot/cold receptors, but also because there is a completely different type of thermoceptor, in terms of the mechanism for detection, in the brain. These thermoceptors in the brain are used for monitoring internal body temperature.

Sound: Detecting vibrations along some medium, such as air or water that is in contact with your ear drums.

Smell: Yet another of the sensors that work off of a chemical reaction. This sense combines with taste to produce flavors.

Proprioception: This sense gives you the ability to tell where your body parts are, relative to other body parts. This sense is one of the things police officers test when they pull over someone who they think is driving drunk. The “close your eyes and touch your nose” test is testing this sense. This sense is used all the time in little ways, such as when you scratch an itch on your foot, but never once look at your foot to see where your hand is relative to your foot.

Tension Sensors: These are found in such places as your muscles and allow the brain the ability to monitor muscle tension.

Nociception: In a word, pain. This was once thought to simply be the result of overloading other senses, such as “touch”, but this has been found not to be the case and instead, it is its own unique sensory system. There are three distinct types of pain receptors: cutaneous (skin), somatic (bones and joints), and visceral (body organs).

Equilibrioception: The sense that allows you to keep your balance and sense body movement in terms of acceleration and directional changes. This sense also allows for perceiving gravity. The sensory system for this is found in your inner ears and is called the vestibular labyrinthine system. Anyone who’s ever had this sense go out on them on occasion knows how important this is. When it’s not working or malfunctioning, you literally can’t tell up from down and moving from one location to another without aid is nearly impossible.

Stretch Receptors: These are found in such places as the lungs, bladder, stomach, and the gastrointestinal tract. A type of stretch receptor, that senses dilation of blood vessels, is also often involved in headaches.

Chemoreceptors: These trigger an area of the medulla in the brain that is involved in detecting blood born hormones and drugs. It also is involved in the vomiting reflex.

Thirst: This system more or less allows your body to monitor its hydration level and so your body knows when it should tell you to drink.

Hunger: This system allows your body to detect when you need to eat something.

Magentoception: This is the ability to detect magnetic fields, which is principally useful in providing a sense of direction when detecting the Earth’s magnetic field. Unlike most birds, humans do not have a strong magentoception, however, experiments have demonstrated that we do tend to have some sense of magnetic fields. The mechanism for this is not completely understood; it is theorized that this has something to do with deposits of ferric iron in our noses. This would make sense if that is correct as humans who are given magnetic implants have been shown to have a much stronger magnetoception than humans without.

Time: This one is debated as no singular mechanism has been found that allows people to perceive time. However, experimental data has conclusively shown humans have a startling accurate sense of time, particularly when younger. The mechanism we use for this seems to be a distributed system involving the cerebral cortex, cerebellum, and basal ganglia. Long term time keeping seems to be monitored by the suprachiasmatic nuclei (responsible for the circadian rhythm). Short term time keeping is handled by other cell systems


Those of you who claim that you have 6 senses are missing out.

They are not spraying anything. These are contrails filling up the sky not poison

yeah, couldnt be a regular flight path to and from a location or anything.....

Besides, *they* MUST be targeting you, right?

Here's part of the problem. You're really, really dumb. I'm sorry if that's mean, but it's true. Your brain is not able to solve very simple logical problems on it's own.

Here's the problem with 'it's coming from behind the sun'.

The sun is traveling in a counter-clockwise orbit around the center of our galaxy. We are traveling in a counter-clockwise orbit around the sun.

Where Earth is in relation to the sun changes incrementally every day. Where 'behind the sun' was six months ago, is now what we see at nighttime. And where 'behind the sun' is now, we will be seeing 6 months from now, at nighttime. Do you understand? We spend several months of the year between the Sun and the center of the galaxy, we spend several months with the sun between us and the center of the galaxy. We spend several months of the year ahead of where the sun is going, and we spend several months trailing the sun.

So you see, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for a celestial object to be approaching us 'from behind the sun'.

A child could figure this out. This is why you nibirutards are so dismissed, because so many of your conclusions are based on a shocking, shocking lack of knowledge about the kinds of things they teach you in grade school.

who said anything about poison?? hmmmmmm

You used the *mean* words, but hit the nail right on the head.

Because he is closed minded and attacks anyone who thinks outside what the gooberment propaganda tells him is truth...

Last Edited by Quasar on 05/07/2012 04:39 PM

the sun is always in the same place in my skies and so are the clouds , im talking about from view here on earth

No, it's not, that I can guarantee you.

i am on the fence about nibiru anyway so arguing this is pointless, i just think they are hiding something in our skies
and it shows the u.s goverment is and has been making plans for a large sclae event whatever that may be.

raises and sets in the same place in the sky everyday

I have never made that claim, because it is impossible for me to gauge what "normal" is in this context beyond my own experience and recent recorded history. The solar system is heating up, that much is true . However that has nothing to do with an incoming brown dwarf. Although I will concede is does with earths weather shifts.
I myself just see the absurdity of the brown dwarf version of Nibiru, and half a problem with the overall straw grasping its proponents employ in general . There is symmetry to the Nibiru movement . However I did give the benefit of the doubt that a three body solution is at least logically tenable if one throws out the 3600 orbit .
These hypothesis makes no predictions , then support them through observation. You wait for other ideas and try to pound the square through the round peg hole with absolutely silly arguments . Then attack people for noticing the inherent flaws .
The fact of the matter is a brown dwarf could not be close enough to be here within a year without its effects being noticed already " IF IN FACT IT IS A REOCCURRING EVENT !! "
that being said it is possible that an invader brown dwarf travelling millions of miles per hour is on its way, but that would be a coincidence as it has never been here before thus would not meet the Nibiru criteria, and if it had Earth wouldn't have a stable orbit. If a brown dwarf came to the inner solar system every 3600 years \all the planets would have very peculiar orbits if not being completely ejected from the solar system themselves .( I would employ Astromut to prove that, Would not be surprised if he already has using a simulator) . I do not pretend to be an expert on all things astronomical, but I have common sense, and a rudimentary knowledge . Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and we just do not see that here . Move along more people trying to sell worthless books here people .

should read " have a problem" and "is no symmetry to the Nibiru movement "

Using mostly Hubble Space Telescope data, Mr. Bridges and Mr. Forbes examined old star clusters within the Milky Way galaxy. From the research they compiled the largest ever high-quality database to record the age and chemical properties of each of these clusters.

"We looked at all the data we could find. The best data are from the Hubble Telescope because it has the best imaging," Bridges says. "We looked at the ages and the amounts of heavy elements in these clusters, which can be measured from their stars."

The researchers' work also suggests that the Milky Way may have swallowed-up more dwarf galaxies than was previously thought. They found that many of the foreign clusters originally existed within dwarf galaxies -- 'mini' galaxies of up to 100 million stars that sit within our larger Milky Way.
The study suggests that there are more of these accreted dwarf galaxies in our Milky Way than was thought.

When the public will know more about it - it's the million dollar question.

It changes from the earths point of view . i.e procession and the changes of the seasons .

What does this have to do with the Nibiru theory??? . especially the ridiculous brown dwarf one ?????

And plenty of people know about this btw

instead of astro mut you should change it to astro bitch you act like one and you have shill written all over you, when in reality you're probably just some cadet reject turned shill

i am done being insulted by you.
i am done arguing about nibiru. which i am on the fence about



there is a campaign in our skies to hide something.
and the fact so many of you make it your duty to come
on here and other forum to argue tells me i am right



i'm done here.

Last Edited by TruTh HunTer on 05/07/2012 04:47 PM

Ummm... Your comment was made in June of 2011, and you said "blah blah blah blah" and "everyone needs to educate themselves because they will be starving and fried by late August of 2011"

Hmmmmm... It seems that nothing happened. Did you feel a bit STUPID?