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COVERUP AT LOS ALAMOS!!

 
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Note: I started this thread on June 29th based on the premise that watchdog groups and the MSM were lying about the location of the plutonium waste dump (Area G) at Los Alamos..I based that premise on the info contained in my original post..this has been PROVEN imo

Other facts re: the Los Alamos fire (Las Conchas) since I first started the thread:

1. The person who was in charge of Area G has resigned

2. Fire officials refused offers of help from the National Guard and are refusing to answer questions about their decision (from the media)

3. Area G is/was located at TA-46 at Mesita Del Buey (not TA-49 as I originally thought)

4. The Area that was claimed to be Area G (TA-54) has been in the process of being dismantled since 2009

5. imo all the 'official' fire maps and even the satellite images (MODIS) I've posted on this thread are most likely bogus based on photographic evidence I've found on You Tube and elsewhere..(with the exception of the NOAA satellite images which showed the direction of travel for the smoke in the days after the fire started..and maybe some of the other smoke related maps)

views of the fire looking SW (1st pic) and SE (2nd pic) from Los Alamos Middle School on 6-26-2011..the pictures are screenshots from a You Tube video..notice the blue and red smoke


LC(3)

imo this picture is probably showing smoke coming from the vicinity of TA-3 to TA-55

LC(2)

this pic probably shows TA-46 and TA-53 with 46 being in the center and 53 to the left

LC(1)

video that the pics came from is below..


[link to www.youtube.com]

LCMS1

where I think the person taking the video was standing and the area covered in the video

LCMS3

Location of TA-46 (Mesita Del Buey) The far left arrow in the pic above this one shows it pointing in the direction of TA-3.. the location of the middle school is located directly above the words Los Alamos (shown in the next picture)

LAMS3

Location of los Alamos Middle School

more pics of the smoke from the back burn (links provided later in the thread)

LC8

LC9

the one directly above looks like the smoke itself is on fire

interactive map of Los Alamos which shows all the Technical Areas

[link to wikimapia.org]

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(start of original post)

Nuclear Watch New Mexico
claims the waste site that everyone is worried about is located at a place called Technical Area 54..

[link to theintelhub.com]

the Los Alamos website says the waste site is located at a place called Mesita Del Buey

[link to www.lanl.gov]
^^missing^^ cached page below (edit 7-30)..

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

Mesita Del Buey is located at Technical Area 49 according to the Los Alamos map linked below

[link to www.lasg.org]

[link to maps.google.com]

the MODIS maps on the link below show the fire approx 1 mile from Technical Area 49..those maps are from Monday night and have not been updated

[link to wildfiretoday.com]

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The spot fire scorched a section known as Tech Area 49,
which was used in the early 1960s for a series of underground tests with high explosives and radioactive materials.

Lab spokesman Kevin Roark said environmental specialists were monitoring air quality, but the main concern was smoke.

The anti-nuclear watchdog group Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety said the fire appeared to be about 3.5 miles (6 kilometers) from a dumpsite where as many as 30,000 55-gallon (208-liter) drums of plutonium-contaminated waste were stored in fabric tents above ground. The group said the drums were awaiting transport to a dump site in southern New Mexico.

Lab officials at first declined to confirm that such drums were on the property, but in a statement early Tuesday, lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said such drums are stored in a section of the complex known as Area G. She said the drums contain cleanup from Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away in weekly shipments to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant.

[link to news.yahoo.com]

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Here's a aerial satellite image of Tech Area 49 on Pajarito road at Mesita Del Buey

Notice the quonset hut type structures at the top and the area at the bottom where it looks like tents are set up between the trees..

TA49

[link to oi56.tinypic.com]

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Here's a current satellite image..click boxes 2,3 and 4 at the top to see the current wind direction

[link to www.ssd.noaa.gov]
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so the drums are are 49 -- not G?
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I think this is a pretty big deal and you should spread it far and wide OP. Your evidence for the lie is pretty convincing. Unless they moved them? But they didn't ever say that. So they are probably exactly where you point out on the google map, and that area was breached by fire.

If it's true that the plutonium waste barrels went up in flames it's HUGE DOOM. BUT maybe the "small fire" they had was only near the barrels and not actually damaging the barrels.... yet. Then it's imminent huge doom...

In any case... this is an awesome find!! but I als odidn't realize that it at first (I'm the AC you had to spell it out to last night). I think if you keep on getting the message out there and keeping it short and simple for our limited attentions (at least till you hooked our interest, its not that we're dumb but GLP moves fast so it's kinda like ADHD inducing sometimes) that will do well to get the troth out!
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also the truth!

I'm not sure what the troth is but might as well get it out there too!
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could always try a more sensational title that mentions the fact that PLUTONIUM COULD ALREADY BE IN THE WINDS as well as this major lie to cover it up!
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so the drums are are 49 -- not G?
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The Los Alamos website claims that Tech area 49 is located at Area G

[link to www.lanl.gov]
[link to www.lasg.org]
[link to maps.google.com]

LOS ALAMOS, N.M., June 4, 1997 — Workers at Los Alamos National Laboratory's Environmental Management Solid Waste Operations Facility -- Area G -- have recovered in near-perfect condition more than 1,500 drums that had been covered by plywood, tarps and soil for nearly 18 years.

The drum-recovery work is part of the Transuranic Waste Inspection and Storage Project, or TWISP -- a project in which three soil-covered, asphalt pads containing drums or boxes of transuranic waste materials are being excavated to allow the drums to be inspected, characterized and certified for planned shipment to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in Carlsbad, N.M.

Workers at Area G are excavating the first pad, which contains 4,816 drums and 88 boxes that typically measure four-by-four-by-eight feet.

Because the 55-gallon drums and fiberglass-sealed boxes on all three pads were covered and weren't available for inspection, the New Mexico Environment Department required Area G operators to excavate the drums and boxes and place them in a configuration that would allow people to inspect them regularly. Laboratory officials say 16,641 drums and 187 boxes in all reside on the three pads and will be excavated during TWISP.

Workers have excavated nearly 30 percent of the first pad at Area G, located on Mesita Del Buey, a finger-like mesa between Pajarito Canyon and Canada Del Buey. The pad is situated beneath a large, white dome structure erected for the drum-recovery effort.

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The existing 63-acre Area G "footprint" has essentially no more room for new disposal pits. If the production of nuclear waste continues, DOE and LANL plan to clear and excavate fresh mesa land for Area G expansion. This expansion, considered imminent in 1993, was delayed by public outcry and is now expected in the 2003-2004 time frame.

Expansion could be delayed further if waste minimization continues, or if huge unnecessary programs (both existing and planned) were canceled. Decontamination and demolition of contaminated buildings, however, together with environmental cleanup at LANL (should significant cleanup ever actually occur) will generate very large waste volumes, which could drive a more immediate expansion. At present, nuclear weapons programs are competing with cleanup for the limited remaining pit space in Area G.

The existing 63-acre Area G "footprint" has essentially no more room for new disposal pits. If the production of nuclear waste continues, DOE and LANL plan to clear and excavate fresh mesa land for Area G expansion. This expansion, considered imminent in 1993, was delayed by public outcry and is now expected in the 2003-2004 time frame.

Expansion could be delayed further if waste minimization continues, or if huge unnecessary programs (both existing and planned) were canceled. Decontamination and demolition of contaminated buildings, however, together with environmental cleanup at LANL (should significant cleanup ever actually occur) will generate very large waste volumes, which could drive a more immediate expansion. At present, nuclear weapons programs are competing with cleanup for the limited remaining pit space in Area G.

[link to www.lasg.org]
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Here's a aerial satellite image of Tech Area 49 on Pajarito road at Mesita Del Buey

Notice the quonset hut type structures at the top and the area at the bottom where it looks like tents are set up between the trees..

:TA49:

[link to oi56.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: RTS


Has the area of this pic burned yet?
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I think this is a pretty big deal and you should spread it far and wide OP. Your evidence for the lie is pretty convincing. Unless they moved them? But they didn't ever say that. So they are probably exactly where you point out on the google map, and that area was breached by fire.

If it's true that the plutonium waste barrels went up in flames it's HUGE DOOM. BUT maybe the "small fire" they had was only near the barrels and not actually damaging the barrels.... yet. Then it's imminent huge doom...

In any case... this is an awesome find!! but I als odidn't realize that it at first (I'm the AC you had to spell it out to last night). I think if you keep on getting the message out there and keeping it short and simple for our limited attentions (at least till you hooked our interest, its not that we're dumb but GLP moves fast so it's kinda like ADHD inducing sometimes) that will do well to get the troth out!
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Unless they moved them?

yup..this seems to be the big question

imo it seems unlikely
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Dr Kaku on Opie and anthony xm radio right now saying "he hopes no terrorist sift through the waste for plutonium.

Slant eyes shill...this guy is a dick
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Here's a aerial satellite image of Tech Area 49 on Pajarito road at Mesita Del Buey

Notice the quonset hut type structures at the top and the area at the bottom where it looks like tents are set up between the trees..

TA49

[link to oi56.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: RTS


Has the area of this pic burned yet?
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Read the second post from the top again..that's the 'official' story
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Here's a aerial satellite image of Tech Area 49 on Pajarito road at Mesita Del Buey

Notice the quonset hut type structures at the top and the area at the bottom where it looks like tents are set up between the trees..

:TA49:

[link to oi56.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: RTS


To the upper right corner of the rear of the complex, move your mouse over to the right about an inch and you'll see a skull.

Does anyone else see it besides me?
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always thought it was Area 54, that's why all the dance clubs years ago and the popularity of the name.
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Good work OP,we need real time satellite images.
This is a bad situation and not getting better.
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STUPIDEST "OFFICIAL STATEMENT" OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!

Lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said a section known as Area G holds drums of cleanup from Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away for storage in weekly shipments.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]


THEY SHIP IT BY THE OUNCE.......wtf???????????????
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Dr Kaku on Opie and anthony xm radio right now saying "he hopes no terrorist sift through the waste for plutonium.

Slant eyes shill...this guy is a dick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296034


Michio Kaku: "If the NWO thing doesn't sound good, you're probably a terrorist"

Thread: Michio Kaku: "If the NWO thing doesn't sound good, you're probably a terrorist"
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I do think that this stuff is protected by so much concrete that it's a very very low risk of anything happening. Of course there was the Titanic too, so I won't rule it out.
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No surprise there.
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RTS,

Thank you for the information you are providing; I think your theory holds more water than you know.

My question for you is, why did they bring that "special team" in to monitor the air for plutonium and uranium? Why were they in such as rush to do this yesterday if the "30,000 barrels of plutonium" are where they claim they are?

The MSM has already been doing a fantasic job of burying Fukushima and now are in distraction mode concerning Nebraska's nuclear plant. It is already taking on water and leaking out radioactive contamination into the river and yet it is no big deal.

Given the information you have provided about Los Alamos, the location of these barrels, and the events which took place yesterday, I have to say you are spot on and we are probably looking a plutonium now riding the jetstream into the Midwest region.

Will be keeping up with this thread as this story continues to develope.

Keep up the good work :)
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could always try a more sensational title that mentions the fact that PLUTONIUM COULD ALREADY BE IN THE WINDS as well as this major lie to cover it up!
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It would explain those pictures? Did you see the density of those clouds, the thickness of the PLUME, and the amazing billowing? I have been seeing lots of wildfire pictures, but we all kept saying, WOW, cause they look so different. I guess that is what you get when you catch plutonium on fire!

Thanks OP
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LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!!
lmao
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LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!!
lmao
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With that in mind, I believe the NWO set that fire on purpose.

In case the dams don't break, America will be poisoned to death by radioactivity one way or another.
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LOLOLOL, the radioactive waste is stored in TENTS!!!
lmao
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WTF! It would have been to logical to have something alittle more safe and secure!



pennywise The circus is everywhere!

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I live just North of los alamos and have been breathing in this smoke since the fire started on sunday.

If its radioactive im not dead yet.

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