If the Anunnaki created mankind, who created the Anunnaki?

Evolution. It is my understanding that the Nordics were the first race in the universe to reach Godhead (physical immortality). There is no all knowing consciousness, just the eternal laws of the universe. It's always been this way.

convincing data to support this?

According to the Hebrew texts, it was BRA (Him/it) who created the Elohim!!

(b-rashith = In beginning) (bra = he created) (aleim = Elohim) <--plural, more than one (ath e-shmim = and the heavens) (u-ath e-artz = and the Earth) (Gen 1:1)


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

MLH!!!!

which Hebrew texts? Talmud?

Mankind.

and...does that mean that mankind AND the Anunnaki are both created by the same Creator?

Our souls/spirits were, but our fleshly shells were designed and formed by the Anunnakki to enslave our original essence and be a slave race to them!!


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

and your data to support this comes from??

evolution, at least in part.

remember, even if you suscribe to the theory that annunaki

altered us genetically, they still started with a race that

had evolved from a simpler life form.

from a link I provided above:

These passages also show how Adam and Eve obtained physical bodies in order to survive on Earth which did not occur until after they arrived here on Earth.
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Chapter 1

The crystal sea, God commands Adam, expelled from Eden, to live in the Cave of Treasures.

1 On the third day, God planted the garden in the east of the earth [Note: East of the entire Earth, not in the East of the Earth], on the border of the world [galaxy?] eastward, beyond which, towards the sun-rising, one finds nothing but water [water? Could be a mistranslation]., that encompasses the whole world [galaxy?], and reaches to the borders of heaven [this is not a place on Earth].
[the definition of world: any sphere, realm, or domain, with all pertaining to it: a child's world; the world of dreams; the insect world, everything that exists; the universe; the macrocosm, any complex whole conceived as resembling the universe: the world of the microcosm, one of the three general groupings of physical nature: animal world; mineral world; vegetable world, any period, state, or sphere of existence: this world; the world to come.]

2 And to the north of the garden [the word “garden” means, a fertile place where things are grown and cultivated] there is a sea of water, clear and pure to the taste, unlike anything else; so that, through the clearness thereof, one may look into the depths of the earth [who thinks of the ocean as a place to view the depths of the Earth? This is not a description of an ocean, it is something else, which is used to see Earth from where they are].
3 And when a man washes himself in it, he becomes clean of the cleanness thereof, and white of its whiteness -- even if he were dark. [??]
4 And God created that sea of his own good pleasure, for He knew what would come of the man He would make; so that after he had left the garden, on account of his transgression, men should be born in the earth [men are born in the earth, but the first man God will create will first be in the garden then sent to earth]. Among them are righteous ones who will die, whose souls God would raise at the last day; when all of them will return to their flesh, bathe in the water of that sea, and repent of their sins [there is that word “water”, not ocean water, or river water, but special water from God].
5 But when God made Adam go out of the garden, He did not place him on the border of it northward. This was so that he and Eve would not be able to go near to the sea of water where they could wash themselves in it, be cleansed from their sins, erase the transgression they had committed, and be no longer reminded of it in the thought of their punishment [this is written in a way that suggests God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would transgress long before they were even created].
6 As to the southern side of the garden, God did not want Adam to live there either; because, when the wind blew from the north, it would bring him, on that southern side, the delicious smell of the trees of the garden [trees must be a rough translation because it is used to mean other things, ie. the tree of life, tree of knowledge of good and evil, tree of eternal life, etc. these are not trees with leaves and roots].
7 Wherefore God did not put Adam there. This was so that he would not be able to smell the sweet smell of those trees, forget his transgression, and find consolation for what he had done by taking delight in the smell of the trees and yet not be cleansed from his transgression.
8 Again, also, because God is merciful and of great pity, and governs all things in a way that He alone knows -- He made our father Adam live in the western border of the garden, because on that side the earth is very broad.
9 And God commanded him to live there in a cave in a rock -- the Cave of Treasures below the garden.

Chapter 2

Adam and Eve faint when they leave the Garden. God sends His Word to encourage them.

1 But when our father Adam, and Eve, went out of the garden, they walked the ground on their feet, not knowing they were walking [they never experienced our gravity?].
2 And when they came to the opening of the gate of the garden [portal?], and saw the broad earth spread before them [saw earth for the first time], covered with stones large and small, and with sand, they feared and trembled, and fell on their faces, from the fear that came over them; and they were as dead [it freaked them out so much they totally collapsed/fainted].
3 Because -- whereas until this time they had been in the garden land, beautifully planted with all manner of trees -- they now saw themselves, in a strange land, which they knew not, and had never seen.
4 And because, when they were in the garden they were filled with the grace of a bright nature [they were light beings], and they had not hearts [heart-mind/same thing] turned toward earthly things.
5 Therefore God had pity on them; and when He saw them fallen before the gate of the garden, He sent His Word [Jesus is His Word] to our father, Adam and Eve, and raised them from their fallen state.

Chapter 3

Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days.

1 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created you, and against which you have transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the garden, and that raised you when you were fallen.
2 Yes, the Word that will again save you when the five and a half days are fulfilled [five and a half days is actually 5,500 years (one day is 1000 years earth-time)]."
3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five and a half days, he did not understand the meaning of them.
4 For Adam was thinking there would be only five and a half days for him until the end of the world.
5 And Adam cried, and prayed to God to explain it to him.
6 Then God in his mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and likeness, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his descendants.
7 But before that, God had made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, before he came out of the garden, when he was by the tree where Eve took of the fruit and gave it to him to eat.
8 Because, when our father Adam came out of the garden, he passed by that tree, and saw how God had changed the appearance of it into another form, and how it shriveled. [this is curious, I think it means that Adam recognized that the previous dna changed]


Thread: Book of Adam & Eve - proof ? that Adam/Eve were ETs and Garden of Eden is not on Earth

Zecharia Sitchen created the Anunaki in order to sell a lot of books.

I think the Annunaki came from either Mars and/or the planet that Mars was orbiting as a moon before it blew up (check richard hoagland on that). There technology was advanced maybe even a little bit more than our today technology. They came to this planet to escape the cataclysm, and used the hominid species that was here to be workers for them. They made alot of them so many that it dwarfed the few Annunaki that came to the planet (maybe 5,000 give or take). And then as the centuries past the original Annunaki died off and what was left was children of the Annunaki and hybrid hominids that mated living along side the the genetically altered hominids.

This reminds me of the Roman kingdom toward the end of it's power. The outer parts of the empire (Hadrians wall in Britian and the Eastern provinces) had so few if any true Romans anymore, that the "Romans" where all intents and purposes native. And this my have what happened eventually to the Annunaki. They still had what was left of some of their technology, but they eventually became more and more "human" and less the other humanoid or lizard species that came from the other planet.

do you have compelling data to support this theory?

i would like to see something in the writings that shows who is the creator of the Anunnaki. The only thing I have found is "The Most High God."

why doesn't MLH join us?

We all came from single cell organisms, evolved lately from monkeys, didnt you guys ever hear of evolution? Geez, ALIENS? Cmon!

one of the links in my original post is broken. not sure why.

Beat me to it. Lol.

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They did not create mankind, that is the biggest lie on the net. They did genetically upgrade a few early early humans in Africa to mine for them. Most of man kind on this planet as to body type are from Pleiades and Sirius and a few from elsewhere from crashes and the like. There were people who migrated here in the time of the dinosaurs.

none of the Sitchin moonies are willing to answer this question.

Anunnaki don't exist. Zecharia Sitchen did not know how to translate Sumerian or Hebrew. He made all of that shit up. Sitchen was a Freemason who operated out of Rocafeller Center. He was a dis info agent, and everyone who promotes his work is dis info ( David dIcke, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion). These people are pushing an agenda. I don't care what you believe but this Anunaki Nibiru stuff is made up bullshit!

You wish!!


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Anunnaki are real but not who they have portrayed themselves to be.

Meaning what?

meaning exactly what i posed in my original post.

they are the fallen and the ones who want the credit for the Most High God's creation.

In order to have a one world government, you need a worldwide belief system. The Anunnaki is the foundation of this one world religion, which is actually a combination of Mystery Babylon, freemasonry,Theosophy, and Luciferianism. This Anunnaki bullshit has also influenced cults like the Raelians. The History channel show Ancient Aliens is a psy-op to condition you to this false religion. They want you to believe in the Anunnaki so you accept the New World Order.

who are the ones that are pushing the one world government, in your opinion?