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Southern California Wants to Secede from the North

 
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Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
RIVERSIDE (CBS) — Is the state of California about to go “South”?

Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone apparently thinks so, after proposing that the county lead a campaign for as many as 13 Southern California counties to secede from the state.

Stone said in a statement late Thursday that Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono counties should form the new state of South California.

The creation of the new state would allow officials to focus on securing borders, balancing budgets, improving schools and creating a vibrant economy, he said.

“Our taxes are too high, our schools don’t educate our children well enough, unions and other special interests have more clout in the Legislature than the general public,” Stone said in his statement.

He unveiled his proposal on the day Gov. Jerry Brown signed budget legislation that will divert about $14 million in 2011-12 vehicle license fee revenue from four new Riverside County cities.

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The real issue here, is that they want to put a border between Northern and Southern California, to enforce further federal border laws.

Probably because they want to heavily enforce search and seizure of all commerce between the North and South, for multiple reasons.

Dividing up one of the greatest states in the union, is not a solution to any problem we are currently facing. IMO.

Work on securing the one border that matters in the area, the southern border with Mexico.
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The rich want to seperate from the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I love how they said, "We don't want L.A. County!" without actually saying that.

I wouldn't want L.A. in my state either.
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I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

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I love how they said, "We don't want L.A. County!" without actually saying that.

I wouldn't want L.A. in my state either.
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LOL...this is true.....
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
Do it!
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OOPS NO WATER FOR YOU....
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
There is another thread on this..

Thread: New State of South California
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
RIVERSIDE (CBS) — Is the state of California about to go “South”?

Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone apparently thinks so, after proposing that the county lead a campaign for as many as 13 Southern California counties to secede from the state.

Stone said in a statement late Thursday that Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono counties should form the new state of South California.

The creation of the new state would allow officials to focus on securing borders, balancing budgets, improving schools and creating a vibrant economy, he said.

“Our taxes are too high, our schools don’t educate our children well enough, unions and other special interests have more clout in the Legislature than the general public,” Stone said in his statement.

He unveiled his proposal on the day Gov. Jerry Brown signed budget legislation that will divert about $14 million in 2011-12 vehicle license fee revenue from four new Riverside County cities.

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another Riverside white trash politician talking trash about his own state...go back to your trailer park
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
Step 1 divide and concur
Step 2 move mexico border north to include LA.
Step 3 obama wins re-election easy.
Step 4 scratch step 3.
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Yeah, the wingnuts bring that up every 15 years or so, Been doing it for decades.

Nothing ever comes of it.
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We here in Northern California would be thrilled :-)
The new state flag would have a pot leaf on it...
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The real issue here, is that they want to put a border between Northern and Southern California, to enforce further federal border laws.

Probably because they want to heavily enforce search and seizure of all commerce between the North and South, for multiple reasons.

Dividing up one of the greatest states in the union, is not a solution to any problem we are currently facing. IMO.

Work on securing the one border that matters in the area, the southern border with Mexico.
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Its way too late for that, they are all here already. Our only hope, is to go there, and take over their fucking country, like they did ours.
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The rich want to seperate from the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Not really, if you look at where they want to draw the line, there is equal wealth on both sides of the fence.
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
The real issue here, is that they want to put a border between Northern and Southern California, to enforce further federal border laws.

Probably because they want to heavily enforce search and seizure of all commerce between the North and South, for multiple reasons.

Dividing up one of the greatest states in the union, is not a solution to any problem we are currently facing. IMO.

Work on securing the one border that matters in the area, the southern border with Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145531


Its way too late for that, they are all here already. Our only hope, is to go there, and take over their fucking country, like they did ours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343684


wouldn't work. They're allowed to profile, racially or otherwise. Most of is would stand out too much.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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Sounds like a good idea - it's too big to budget and govern now and having it in two parts would be fairer to the people.
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Re: Southern California Wants to Secede from the North
ya I think it would be good, southern AZ where I live wants to secede too and I wouldnt mind, Tucson smells literally like poop anyways
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OOPS NO WATER FOR YOU....
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chuckle


It will cost them.....


Do it the South just gives us Northerners a bad name....



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The rich want to seperate from the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Not really, if you look at where they want to draw the line, there is equal wealth on both sides of the fence.
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I doubt that. Orange County could buy four or five states. there is more wealth there, than anywhere else in the country. The Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, California caters to the filthy rich, just look at the yachts docked out front. Right across the bay at Lido Island, is like a haven for the extremely wealthy.
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The rich want to seperate from the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Not really, if you look at where they want to draw the line, there is equal wealth on both sides of the fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343684


I doubt that. Orange County could buy four or five states. there is more wealth there, than anywhere else in the country. The Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, California caters to the filthy rich, just look at the yachts docked out front. Right across the bay at Lido Island, is like a haven for the extremely wealthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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The rich want to seperate from the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Not really, if you look at where they want to draw the line, there is equal wealth on both sides of the fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343684


I doubt that. Orange County could buy four or five states. there is more wealth there, than anywhere else in the country. The Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, California caters to the filthy rich, just look at the yachts docked out front. Right across the bay at Lido Island, is like a haven for the extremely wealthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
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OOPS NO WATER FOR YOU....
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chuckle


It will cost them.....


Do it the South just gives us Northerners a bad name....



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 Quoting: Cyndexia


The south makes New York look bad?????

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Not really, if you look at where they want to draw the line, there is equal wealth on both sides of the fence.
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I doubt that. Orange County could buy four or five states. there is more wealth there, than anywhere else in the country. The Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, California caters to the filthy rich, just look at the yachts docked out front. Right across the bay at Lido Island, is like a haven for the extremely wealthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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I doubt that. Orange County could buy four or five states. there is more wealth there, than anywhere else in the country. The Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, California caters to the filthy rich, just look at the yachts docked out front. Right across the bay at Lido Island, is like a haven for the extremely wealthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
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Good luck with that chief.

bsflag
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and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


Good luck with that chief.

bsflag
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Well, I guess I stand corrected, wouldn't be the first time

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and what about L.A. county and Beverly Hills?

or Santa Barbara County, or Napa County, or Sonoma County? Lots and Lots of wine money there.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


Good luck with that chief.

bsflag
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Wealthiest places in the US (zip code)...

[link to wealth.mongabay.com]

Let's start looking at California...

What are the top 5?

Top ranked CA city? Burlingame (SF Bay area)
#2 - Cupertino
#3 - Fremont
#4 - Oakland (believe it or not, the zip code is wealthy)
#5 - San Ramon


Wow, what do they all have in common?

AHHHH, They are not In Orange County!!!!

suck on that.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


Good luck with that chief.

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


Wealthiest places in the US (zip code)...

[link to wealth.mongabay.com]

Let's start looking at California...

What are the top 5?

Top ranked CA city? Burlingame (SF Bay area)
#2 - Cupertino
#3 - Fremont
#4 - Oakland (believe it or not, the zip code is wealthy)
#5 - San Ramon


Wow, what do they all have in common?

AHHHH, They are not In Orange County!!!!

suck on that.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


Relax skippy, read the post above. Your have already been checkmated.
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Yes, that will fix everything, let's cut the titanic in half.
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No where near the kind of money that is in Orange County. 9 billionaires live there.

[link to www.ocregister.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


WOW! 9! Really! Oh, shit, that must make that the richest spot on the planet.

bsflag

Orange county is wealthy, yes, but as rich as you're making it out to be? Nope, there are far wealthier locations.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


Good luck with that chief.

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439309


Wealthiest places in the US (zip code)...

[link to wealth.mongabay.com]

Let's start looking at California...

What are the top 5?

Top ranked CA city? Burlingame (SF Bay area)
#2 - Cupertino
#3 - Fremont
#4 - Oakland (believe it or not, the zip code is wealthy)
#5 - San Ramon


Wow, what do they all have in common?

AHHHH, They are not In Orange County!!!!

suck on that.
 Quoting: Coward, Anonymous


And then there's silicon valley, some big bucks there. San Francisco, and the north bay. Big bucks there also. The 605 corridor from Blackhawk to Walnut Creek is flush also.

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