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"Why do we have to pay to live on a planet that we are born on?"

 
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Re: "Why do we have to pay to live on a planet that we are born on?"
You can go live in the Amazon forest. No one will charge you for that I'm quite sure.
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If enough people did it they would find a way. And that wouldn't need to be a great deal of people either.

Over here our crappy GovCo is, among other things, trying to figure out a way to tax barter transactions. What does that tell you about their attitude?

You probably can't see it because you live in a city or built up suburb (I'm assuming that from the assumptions you made in your post). You think there needs to be a big complicated monetary system where every aspect of life needs to be sold and bought. You're wrong.
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I do not oppose the gov taxing barter transactions. This is fair and understandable. The whole point of paying taxes is not about punishing those who use money as a medium of transaction. It's about contributing to building and maintaining a society.


And you are right. When enough people do it, THEY would find a way!

Here it goes again. A society is being set up. Now what?

To protect yourself from being eaten by animals in there, you guys decide that few strongest guys should be elected as guards to fight wild animals.

Thus these guys need your support to survive. So others farm and give these guys food! And they be the guards! Now you're paying tax AGAIN!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1758773


Why should the government get anything out of *every* transaction when they give nothing in return?

Go ahead and list a whole bunch of things that you THINK the government gives me, but you will be wrong. Hint: I'm rural Australia and GovCo does not even maintain the road I live on.

If I help someone change a tyre and sometime down the track that invite me over for lunch as a thankyou, you really think the government should get a piece of that "action" somehow?

You're sick.
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Stop quoting "Nietzsche", start quoting yourself, think you do not matter?
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I'll quote who I like. I just quoted you now.

BTW, that first quote in my sig IS my own.
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Re: "Why do we have to pay to live on a planet that we are born on?"
We shouldnt have to.. no one should have to pay for that which the earth provides for free..

We should of evolved into a resource based society by now.. we have been kept stupid by the slow and progressive poisoning of our minds and bodies and our ego's and fear have been fed consistantly for thousands of years...

The current model of Humanity is the greatest tragedy of all time
 Quoting: EW 4446321


I find your reply pertinent.

I envision a model where there are local community co-op vegetable/fruit gardens. People could workshare there a few hours in the week.

Basic needs should be met for all people. Education and health care should be free.

Those that contribute more to the welfare of the whole should also be rewarded with greater status and power.
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You don't. You are free to go forage for beetles in the jungle.
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Re: "Why do we have to pay to live on a planet that we are born on?"
Perhaps we humans don't own jack squat on this planet. Aliens like reptilians and greys own everything.
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You are not paying to live on the planet, you are paying to live in a civilized society and all that comes with it.

If you don't like it, you could always move to Somalia and see how far you get in place with no laws, no police, no running water, etc., etc., etc.
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it's that type of logic that hold us back from being a type 1 civilization
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Bring on the old days of small villages and bartering, trading valuable for valuable, working an honest job in exchange for personal reward.
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Google "free man on the Land" or "sovereign person". Understand the law and you will be free.
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We can breath in as much as we like - but the moment we exhale = Carbon Tax, thankyou very much!


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You are not paying to live on the planet, you are paying to live in a civilized society and all that comes with it.

If you don't like it, you could always move to Somalia and see how far you get in place with no laws, no police, no running water, etc., etc., etc.
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it's that type of logic that hold us back from being a type 1 civilization
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Of course, they say every atom in our bodies was once part of a star. Maybe I'm not leaving... maybe I'm going home."

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99% of your income goes into a landlords/moneylenders pocket thats why! Those who make the laws are landlords/moneylenders so the laws are for them when If i stole a loaf of bread I would be jailed for 2 yrs, thoses parasites made a law for themself its called profit! Legal theft!
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Its totally stupid! So December 21st 2012, since no one has any better idea's we purpose that we move to a "Pay-it-forward society." There is no reason for any of us to have to pay to live on this planet. Yes we need to work, but we do not need to "own" anything and we do not need currency!

[link to www.youtube.com]

This is what I am doing about it! We must have this conversation all over the world. The hour is late, and it is time!
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Its totally stupid! So December 21st 2012, since no one has any better idea's we purpose that we move to a "Pay-it-forward society." There is no reason for any of us to have to pay to live on this planet. Yes we need to work, but we do not need to "own" anything and we do not need currency!

[link to www.youtube.com]

This is what I am doing about it! We must have this conversation all over the world. The hour is late, and it is time!
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If you're not planning on eating, you don't have to.
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Re: "Why do we have to pay to live on a planet that we are born on?"
Once upon a time, there was no money, people lived off the land in perfect harmony with the cosmos, and nature took it's toll. There was pain, and hunger and hardship, but there was also love, happiness and peace.

My greatest wish is that we find our way back to the natural order. I'd rather a short peaceful life than a long miserable one
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If it were up to them, others creauters would have to pay up to be on their land, if they don't get squashed, poisoned or shot. In a way the whole universe is already claimed by man, gives the psychopaths the right drown the world in their own radiation, they think that at least.
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Australia is fast becoming the most expensive nation on the planet. Our farmers in South Oz are being taxed for the H2O in their dams, Carbon tax comes in next month (everyone seems to want an election now to stop this but the Australian people are being ignored), South Oz electricity now the HIGHEST priced power on the planet, government is implementing the mining tax to all the companies that have set up expensive equipment and purchased licenses to mine (plus their workers are taxed hugely) in order to "share the wealth amongst all Australians" - YEAH RIGHT!! THAT SOUNDS PRETTY DAMNED CLOSE TO COMMUNISM IF YOU ASK ME. That cow of a PM we have is ignoring us all. She is a sell out and she could not give a flying #$@* about this country.
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We shouldnt have to.. no one should have to pay for that which the earth provides for free..

We should of evolved into a resource based society by now.. we have been kept stupid by the slow and progressive poisoning of our minds and bodies and our ego's and fear have been fed consistantly for thousands of years...

The current model of Humanity is the greatest tragedy of all time
 Quoting: EW 4446321


I find your reply pertinent.

I envision a model where there are local community co-op vegetable/fruit gardens. People could workshare there a few hours in the week.

Basic needs should be met for all people. Education and health care should be free.

Those that contribute more to the welfare of the whole should also be rewarded with greater status and power.
 Quoting: SEVAK_MUNI


Your "model" is called Communism. It has proven
not to work.
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In case you have no money, forget about internet. But you cannot forget to have a living anywhere
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A living without internet hahaha.
You was kidding...right?
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Because you were born into the Matrix not a Planet and you are waking up , go back to sleep it's easier for.
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How do you go back to sleep once you have ´woken up´?
 Quoting: SEVAK_MUNI


fluoride works
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We shouldnt have to.. no one should have to pay for that which the earth provides for free..

We should of evolved into a resource based society by now.. we have been kept stupid by the slow and progressive poisoning of our minds and bodies and our ego's and fear have been fed consistantly for thousands of years...

The current model of Humanity is the greatest tragedy of all time
 Quoting: EW 4446321


I find your reply pertinent.

I envision a model where there are local community co-op vegetable/fruit gardens. People could workshare there a few hours in the week.

Basic needs should be met for all people. Education and health care should be free.

Those that contribute more to the welfare of the whole should also be rewarded with greater status and power.
 Quoting: SEVAK_MUNI


Your "model" is called Communism. It has proven
not to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17286559


theres always one crazy shouting beware the communists, its ok its programmed, not your fault.

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