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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/02/2011 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078I "kind of" get what you are saying because, at one time, I gave thought about this very thing. I thought those who are saved belong to the same blood line as Jesus. That there are two, from the beginning of the human race. Those that belong to bloodline of Jesus, were God's chosen, and those who were of the other bloodline, could never be--and it all traces back to Cain and Abel. Is this what you are trying to express? I have not thought about this in a while, it was just a mere speculation one day when I was talking to my sons. me too..Im just speculating..but yes..the bible clearly indicates this imo and Jesus imo confirms this in what he says it has to be a strain..something maybe in the "junk" DNA that distinguishes on line from another..and that doesnt change even with intermarriage.. a predominant genetic strain.. it has to go imo beyond the physical and probably define not only the origin of the line but the spiritual capability of ascension of the same one line remains below..as Jesus said..i.e. cannot ascend to a higher vibration spiritual frequency the other can only guessing here what do you think? there is a difference between the two cultures expression of the "sacred geometry" they encode their architecture,art, philosophy, science etc and express their lifestyle within same godlike attributes but different expression of them because one originates from another galaxy which spins in a different direction to this one therefore expresses a different "personality" within it`s inhabitants and lifestyle but all the same god, as it must be that`s the rabbit hole version the strange part is modern historians try to reconcile this Sumerian tablets the two main rulers of earth were Enlil and Enki. These brothers ended up having a falling out. Enlil/Yaweh is the ruthless one. Hateful of man for the most part not wanting them to be any thing more than slave who could not reproduce and thought of them as animals. And it was Enki, who loved man and always wanted to show him things, help them, and ultimately save them from the flood. Enki/Lucifer,stands for and goodness Enlil/Yaweh is the evil one as in: how did history become changed when the hebews translated the older cultures now known before them it`s a problem and this is why: Around the time of Christ, all knowledge of the Sumerian language disappeared along with that of cuneiform writing, and in the succeeding centuries even the name Sumer vanished from memory. Unlike Assyria, Babylonia, and Egypt, whose histories and traditions are amply documented in biblical and classical sources, there was nothing to be found in non-Mesopotamian sources to make one even suspect the existence of the Sumerians in antiquity, let alone fully appreciate their important role in the history of early civilizations. When the decipherment of cuneiform writing was achieved in the early decades of the 19th century, three languages written in cuneiform were discovered: Semitic Babylonian, Indo-European Persian, and Elamite, of unknown linguistic affiliation. Only after the texts written in Babylonian had become better understood did scholars become aware of the existence of texts written in a language different from Babylonian. When the new language was discovered it was variously designated as Scythian, or even Akkadian (that is, by the very name now given to the Semitic language spoken in Babylonia and Assyria). It was only after knowledge of the new language had grown that it was given the correct name of Sumerian. [link to history-world.org] still doen`t matter because now we do know |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1451195 United States 07/02/2011 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good to see you back, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078Did you enjoy your time at the pool? Yes, as a school teacher i really enjoy my summers!!! Thanks for asking. I'm sitting here falling asleep though.... Summertime, Summertime, thank you God for Summertime!!! My neighbors, husband and wife team, are both school teachers. They just had a child last year and spend every moment they can with their precious little one throughout the summer. God Bless You! Thank you so much. This is going to be of those summer days - God willing - where i'm on and off more than a few times. Catch up with you later. Peace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258755 United States 07/02/2011 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that verse is so very right and yes He said He would send forth the great delusion to try all men..so they would believe a lie and be damned..hit the nail on the head.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258755The fate of the wicked. Yes it is sad and one we hate to think of and even try to get them to stop but it is their own free will to go on... head long into it...we do not control another's reigns and should not it is bad for them in the long run..sometimes not even our own it is a constant battle.... but at least we feel the gouge of it and fall down roll over and beg for mercy an forgiveness and even better the time to reprove the ugly thing out of our actions for good..we do acknowledge its wrong and try to refrain the best we can and warn another ....hey if you do that thing it hurts you with stingy strips... :) Its like romper room in the thread... :) serious...then casual..then insane ...then semi-serious...then casual.....gotta love diversity. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/02/2011 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is interesting: John 7 1After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. 2Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand. 3His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest. 4For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world. 5For neither did his brethren believe in him. 6Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready. 7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. 8Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come. 9When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee. 10But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret. who was jesus talking to |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373078 United States 07/02/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is interesting: Quoting: aetherJohn 7 1After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. 2Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand. 3His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest. 4For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world. 5For neither did his brethren believe in him. 6Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready. 7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. 8Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come. 9When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee. 10But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret. who was jesus talking to Do you mean who was Jesus talking about regarding your highlighted text? If so, I believe that might've been His half brother, James. Brethren means brother or relatives. He had other half brothers, but most notably, James. James is mentioned twice in the New Testament. He became a believer after the crucifixion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isaiah 45:7 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1452004I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. The scriptures clearly teach that God cannot be the author of evil. James 1:13 states "Let no one say when he is tempted. 'I am being tempted by God'; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone." And further "Every good thing bestowed and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation, or shifting shadow." (emphasis added) We know that God is not a God of confusion (1 Cor 14:33). Psalm 18:30 tells us "As for God, His way is blameless" and "Thou art not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness; no evil dwells with Thee (Psalm 5:4). Also, "The Lord is righteous in all His ways, and kind in all His deeds." (Psalm 145:17) Now, we know that all of these Scriptures cannot be wrong on the nature of God, so we must re-examine your exegesis of the Hebrew word ra'. Hebrew is an ancient language that was much more limited in scope than say Greek. Frequently, the same words were used in several contexts to mean different things. Why, even in English the word blue could mean a color or someone feeling depressed. The word ra' is used throughout the Old Testament with several meanings. It is used many times to mean something morally evil or hurtful (Job 35:12, 1 Sam 30:22, etc.) but it is also used to mean an unpleasant experience (Gen 47:9 and Prov. 15:10). It is used to describe fierce beasts (Lev. 26:6), and even spoiled or inferior fruit (Jer 24:3). Certainly, the figs that Jeremiah was looking at were not evil in the sense of morally reprobate! In Isaiah 45, the word evil is used in a contrast to the peace and well-being discussed before it. Thank you very much for this teaching! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Kings 22:22 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258755And the LORD said to him, With which? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, You shall persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Yes, one of the punishments of the wicked is that they will believe a lie. What a terrible consequence of their sin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Thessalonians 2:11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258755And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. It separates them it seeks them and it pulls them out by pulling what was in their hearts out....pleasure in unrighteousness Another teaching about the wicked. They die a second death and will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. |
ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622 United States 07/02/2011 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another teaching about the wicked. They die a second death and will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Quoting: Once4AllYes, and a third death, and a fourth death, and a fifth death..........and many many more, depending upon how many times they must retake THIS classroom of lessons! Until they get it right.......and then get off this merry-go-round!!! Anyways, that's another way of looking at it......? Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 07/02/2011 05:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was a Jew and he practiced Judaism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446384Jesus's words were burnt and his followers were fed to the lions. Come a couple of hundred of years later and a bunch of corrupt Romans decide to re-create the religion in their liking. One bishop stabbed another bishop and Jesus became God himself. Study your pathetic Pagan religion and have some respect for the real Jesus and his religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another teaching about the wicked. They die a second death and will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Quoting: Once4AllYes, and a third death, and a fourth death, and a fifth death..........and many many more, depending upon how many times they must retake THIS classroom of lessons! Until they get it right.......and then get off this merry-go-round!!! Anyways, that's another way of looking at it......? Good afternoon obeWaneKenobe... Well, i'm sorry to tell you this but according to Scripture there are only 2 deaths. The second one is the final decision. |
ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622 United States 07/02/2011 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another teaching about the wicked. They die a second death and will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Quoting: Once4AllYes, and a third death, and a fourth death, and a fifth death..........and many many more, depending upon how many times they must retake THIS classroom of lessons! Until they get it right.......and then get off this merry-go-round!!! Anyways, that's another way of looking at it......? Good afternoon obeWaneKenobe... Well, i'm sorry to tell you this but according to Scripture there are only 2 deaths. The second one is the final decision. Well maybe that's because the guy giving the lesson in the bible, didn't know there were more? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another teaching about the wicked. They die a second death and will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Quoting: Once4AllYes, and a third death, and a fourth death, and a fifth death..........and many many more, depending upon how many times they must retake THIS classroom of lessons! Until they get it right.......and then get off this merry-go-round!!! Anyways, that's another way of looking at it......? Good afternoon obeWaneKenobe... Well, i'm sorry to tell you this but according to Scripture there are only 2 deaths. The second one is the final decision. Well maybe that's because the guy giving the lesson in the bible, didn't know there were more? Don't be silly! Have you formed an opinion on elenin? Comet or brown dwarf??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Where is your father?" they asked. Jesus answered, "Since you don't know who I am, you don't know who my Father is. If you knew me, you would also know my Father." Jesus Christ clearly explains that if you do not know Him You do not know God His Father. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373078 United States 07/02/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have we become so desensitized to sin, that we don't recognize evil anymore? I mean, there is the apparent evil such as murder, pedophilia, rape, incest--you get the picture. But then there is the subtle evil, which is what, I believe, is the message of this thread. In Genesis chapter 6, verse 5: "Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." That is difficult to comprehend about man--"thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." What were the evil thoughts of his heart that angered God to the point of wiping them all out, except for Noah and his family along with an ark of animals. I think this is why it has become so hard to reach people these days with gospel, because evil is under disguise. |
ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622 United States 07/02/2011 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't be silly! Quoting: Once4AllI'm serious: Do you think that the Apostles were shown EVERYTHING? Even THEY, were only taught as much as they could receive at the time! Have you formed an opinion on elenin? Quoting: Once4AllComet or brown dwarf??? My opinion; is that we can alter the course of events, according to our own abilities to create.........so it will be THAT which WE(as a people) ultimately decide! That could be GOOD or BAD!!! Yikes......lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have we become so desensitized to sin, that we don't recognize evil anymore? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078I mean, there is the apparent evil such as murder, pedophilia, rape, incest--you get the picture. But then there is the subtle evil, which is what, I believe, is the message of this thread. In Genesis chapter 6, verse 5: "Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." That is difficult to comprehend about man--"thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." What were the evil thoughts of his heart that angered God to the point of wiping them all out, except for Noah and his family along with an ark of animals. I think this is why it has become so hard to reach people these days with gospel, because evil is under disguise. Yes, for example, fornication is still a terrible sin. How many people really understand that? Of the sinner Jesus says this: John 8:21 Later Jesus said to them again, "I am going away. You will search for me but will die in your sin. You cannot come where I am going." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373078 United States 07/02/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 7 verse 11, where Jesus Christ himself calls a group of people evil. As it states, these are words directly from Jesus Christ's own mouth: "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" Imagine being there at that moment when He said that. What is the evil Jesus is referring to? We are evil, but we can give good gifts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 7 verse 11, where Jesus Christ himself calls a group of people evil. As it states, these are words directly from Jesus Christ's own mouth: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" Imagine being there at that moment when He said that. What is the evil Jesus is referring to? We are evil, but we can give good gifts. Exactly. To me it goes with... "All have sinned" We all need our Savior, Jesus Christ. Good deeds is not good enough. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mat 12:45 "Then the spirit finds seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they all enter the person and live there. And so that person is worse off than before. That will be the experience of this evil generation." I believe Jesus is teaching that an evil heart invites evil spirits to abide there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331138 United States 07/02/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 7 verse 11, where Jesus Christ himself calls a group of people evil. As it states, these are words directly from Jesus Christ's own mouth: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" Imagine being there at that moment when He said that. What is the evil Jesus is referring to? We are evil, but we can give good gifts. Exactly. To me it goes with... "All have sinned" We all need our Savior, Jesus Christ. Good deeds is not good enough. God is completely Holy... we are unholy. In the book of Isa. (not sure where), it states - All our righteousness are as filthy rags. Lets not forget, we are still sinners. Jesus Christ is our righteousness |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/02/2011 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i find this interesting: Evil spirits which cause mental disturbances are mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures. But they were not dispatched or controlled by Satan; they were sent by God to torment people: Judges 9:23: "Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem..." 1 Kings 22:23: "...behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets..." 1 Samuel 16:14: "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him." (KJV) 1 Sam 18:10: "And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul..." 1 Sam 19:9: "And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul..." The belief in Satan and his army of demons first appears in Jewish writings after 300 BCE. At the time of the 1st century CE, it is a well developed concept in Palestine. There are literally dozens of passages referring to demon possession causing mental and physical illnesses. A major feature of Jesus' ministry is portrayed as curing people of demonic possession through exorcism. Archaic Biblical Hebrew from the 10th to the 6th century BCE, corresponding to the Monarchic Period until the Babylonian Exile and represented by certain texts in the Hebrew Bible (Tanach), notably the Song of Moses (Exodus 15) and the Song of Deborah (Judges 5). Also called Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew. It was written in a form of the Canaanite script. (A script descended from this is still used by the Samaritans, why did satan not appear until at least 700 years AFTER the earliest bible writing why did satan take over our lords role in utilizing demons Last Edited by aether on 07/02/2011 07:43 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452343 United States 07/02/2011 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 7 verse 11, where Jesus Christ himself calls a group of people evil. As it states, these are words directly from Jesus Christ's own mouth: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373078"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" Imagine being there at that moment when He said that. What is the evil Jesus is referring to? We are evil, but we can give good gifts. Exactly. To me it goes with... "All have sinned" We all need our Savior, Jesus Christ. Good deeds is not good enough. God is completely Holy... we are unholy. In the book of Isa. (not sure where), it states - All our righteousness are as filthy rags. Lets not forget, we are still sinners. Jesus Christ is our righteousness The truth! |
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