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I am all for temporary welfare when someone loses a job. I am all for helping people who help themselves. I know that God forbid me and my family could be on skid row.I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam. These "kids" are put on SSDI when they are very young for behaviour problems or a lower IQ than clasmates, or any percieved disabiltiy the parents can find to start collecting free money. Then these kids grow up and still collect the rest of thier lives and live off the taxpayers.

For instance have a young couple early 20's both get over 500 a month on SSDI. They both also have full medical and get food stamps. Now they are a tad off a little slow. But both physically able to work. In fact he mows lawns all summer for cash, has quite the customer base built up. She builds furniture and does odd jobs. They both have smoke, have cell phones, cable and internet. A few months ago he tells me she is pregnant. So they are going to have a kid which will probably also be on SSDI.
This is not the only example. I have ran into probably 50 young adults on SSDI in our town off under 10,000. These people have never paid a dollar into Social Security and never will. I had a nieghbor in her 20's who was on it, and all three of her young kids were on it because of lead poisoning. Now why can't these people get jobs? Most of them work for cash so they are physically able. Why do they deserve a free ride the rest of thier lives?

Now I understand a severly diasabled child or adult getting benefits. But I think the standards need to be set a little higher. Most of the families that are on welfare have at least one child on SSDI. This is obsurd. There is a time limit on welfare, but these people will get SSDI until the programs runs out of money. It makes me angry when I work my ass off to get by and these people get free money, when they could work. I think this is a bigger travisty than welfare ever has been. So if I am able to retire in my 70's the money I have paid in will not be there. I sure had no idea this scam was this bad until I ran into these people in my line of work. Maybe if the Government kicked these people off the free ride it would keep the program solvent for the ones who need it.
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I agree. The fuck up thing about it is you don't have pay into too collect befits.
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SSDI is SUPPLEMENTAL Security Disabillity, NOT Social Security. Some people really need it because we still live on the fake money system. Once we give up money, nobody needs support. Ponder it. Every body works at something that can. No medical experiences, all free with no money.

no people on welfare, every one eats right, less disability and on and on and on.
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I am all for temporary welfare when someone loses a job. I am all for helping people who help themselves. I know that God forbid me and my family could be on skid row.I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam. These "kids" are put on SSDI when they are very young for behaviour problems or a lower IQ than clasmates, or any percieved disabiltiy the parents can find to start collecting free money. Then these kids grow up and still collect the rest of thier lives and live off the taxpayers.

For instance have a young couple early 20's both get over 500 a month on SSDI. They both also have full medical and get food stamps. Now they are a tad off a little slow. But both physically able to work. In fact he mows lawns all summer for cash, has quite the customer base built up. She builds furniture and does odd jobs. They both have smoke, have cell phones, cable and internet. A few months ago he tells me she is pregnant. So they are going to have a kid which will probably also be on SSDI.
This is not the only example. I have ran into probably 50 young adults on SSDI in our town off under 10,000. These people have never paid a dollar into Social Security and never will. I had a nieghbor in her 20's who was on it, and all three of her young kids were on it because of lead poisoning. Now why can't these people get jobs? Most of them work for cash so they are physically able. Why do they deserve a free ride the rest of thier lives?

Now I understand a severly diasabled child or adult getting benefits. But I think the standards need to be set a little higher. Most of the families that are on welfare have at least one child on SSDI. This is obsurd. There is a time limit on welfare, but these people will get SSDI until the programs runs out of money. It makes me angry when I work my ass off to get by and these people get free money, when they could work. I think this is a bigger travisty than welfare ever has been. So if I am able to retire in my 70's the money I have paid in will not be there. I sure had no idea this scam was this bad until I ran into these people in my line of work. Maybe if the Government kicked these people off the free ride it would keep the program solvent for the ones who need it.
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Not that you'll get it, but look at the bold lines above and apply the same shit to your "field". Your rental/land-lord scam has been going on WAY longer than SSDI.
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I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam.
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You don't see the big picture. You don't see how your line of work is the epitome of 'disability'.

Basically you say, "I'm gonna control all the houses here so that people have to pay me to live in them. Since people need a place to live well I'll just make them go out and work for it and they'll have to pay me to live in one of my houses."

You're the disabled leech, fool.
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I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam.
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You don't see the big picture. You don't see how your line of work is the epitome of 'disability'.

Basically you say, "I'm gonna control all the houses here so that people have to pay me to live in them. Since people need a place to live well I'll just make them go out and work for it and they'll have to pay me to live in one of my houses."

You're the disabled leech, fool.
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Hey asshole I don't own the properties I manage them. I have a job so I don't live on disabiltiy or welfare. I am sorry if I offended your way of life.
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I am all for temporary welfare when someone loses a job. I am all for helping people who help themselves. I know that God forbid me and my family could be on skid row.I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam. These "kids" are put on SSDI when they are very young for behaviour problems or a lower IQ than clasmates, or any percieved disabiltiy the parents can find to start collecting free money. Then these kids grow up and still collect the rest of thier lives and live off the taxpayers.

For instance have a young couple early 20's both get over 500 a month on SSDI. They both also have full medical and get food stamps. Now they are a tad off a little slow. But both physically able to work. In fact he mows lawns all summer for cash, has quite the customer base built up. She builds furniture and does odd jobs. They both have smoke, have cell phones, cable and internet. A few months ago he tells me she is pregnant. So they are going to have a kid which will probably also be on SSDI.
This is not the only example. I have ran into probably 50 young adults on SSDI in our town off under 10,000. These people have never paid a dollar into Social Security and never will. I had a nieghbor in her 20's who was on it, and all three of her young kids were on it because of lead poisoning. Now why can't these people get jobs? Most of them work for cash so they are physically able. Why do they deserve a free ride the rest of thier lives?

Now I understand a severly diasabled child or adult getting benefits. But I think the standards need to be set a little higher. Most of the families that are on welfare have at least one child on SSDI. This is obsurd. There is a time limit on welfare, but these people will get SSDI until the programs runs out of money. It makes me angry when I work my ass off to get by and these people get free money, when they could work. I think this is a bigger travisty than welfare ever has been. So if I am able to retire in my 70's the money I have paid in will not be there. I sure had no idea this scam was this bad until I ran into these people in my line of work. Maybe if the Government kicked these people off the free ride it would keep the program solvent for the ones who need it.
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Not that you'll get it, but look at the bold lines above and apply the same shit to your "field". Your rental/land-lord scam has been going on WAY longer than SSDI.
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Again I work for a living. I don't get shit from the Government. I don't get a free ride. My boss doesn't either we lose alot of money from trash destroying the places and not paying. No free ride for him or me. What should we just let people live for free?
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I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam.
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You don't see the big picture. You don't see how your line of work is the epitome of 'disability'.

Basically you say, "I'm gonna control all the houses here so that people have to pay me to live in them. Since people need a place to live well I'll just make them go out and work for it and they'll have to pay me to live in one of my houses."

You're the disabled leech, fool.
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Hey asshole I don't own the properties I manage them. I have a job so I don't live on disabiltiy or welfare. I am sorry if I offended your way of life.
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Ok, so you're worse than the owner of the property - you're like his lackey bitch. Not only that, you work overtime to further oppress his victims as being the scum of the earth and pointing to them as the problem. You're like the officers in nazi germany who did Hitler's bidding and said, "hey, I was just doing my job, how else was I supposed to eat?". But really you were berating the "disabled" the whole time, hating them, and your post proves it.
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I know that some of what you say is true and I appreciate you acknowledging that there are people who need this service. I know some of the people who abuse it.

My husband is 55, had 2 heart attacks and a stroke along with many many other problems. He got SSDI in 3 months. No lawyer needed. He is that sick. Due to has past profession he makes more than a lot of people who have 2 incomes. That makes me sad.

At the same time medical bills have wiped out our savings and I am not bitching but I have forgotten how to be poor. I haven't had to walk down this road since college. It is harder than I remember. Maybe in my younger days it was an experience and not the reality it is today.

With all of his health problems the govt has decided he can't get medicare for 2 years after his benefits started. So they admit he is way to sick to ever work again, know he has no insurance, makes too much for medicaid and his medicines of which there are many are really expensive.

The whole system needs overhauled. It started out as a good thing and as usual with this country has been turned in to something dysfunctional and unrecognizeable.

I am greatful for what we have, make no mistake about that. I can't work right now because I am taking care of him. I look forward to the day I can go back to work. When I do though, my income is capped or they will cut his benefits. It is such a screwed up system. Our total income can only be 2700 a month before they start zapping his check according to the last letter I got from SSA.
It's hard to make anything fool proof as fools are so ingenious.
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I know that some of what you say is true and I appreciate you acknowledging that there are people who need this service. I know some of the people who abuse it.

My husband is 55, had 2 heart attacks and a stroke along with many many other problems. He got SSDI in 3 months. No lawyer needed. He is that sick. Due to has past profession he makes more than a lot of people who have 2 incomes. That makes me sad.

At the same time medical bills have wiped out our savings and I am not bitching but I have forgotten how to be poor. I haven't had to walk down this road since college. It is harder than I remember. Maybe in my younger days it was an experience and not the reality it is today.

With all of his health problems the govt has decided he can't get medicare for 2 years after his benefits started. So they admit he is way to sick to ever work again, know he has no insurance, makes too much for medicaid and his medicines of which there are many are really expensive.

The whole system needs overhauled. It started out as a good thing and as usual with this country has been turned in to something dysfunctional and unrecognizeable.

I am greatful for what we have, make no mistake about that. I can't work right now because I am taking care of him. I look forward to the day I can go back to work. When I do though, my income is capped or they will cut his benefits. It is such a screwed up system. Our total income can only be 2700 a month before they start zapping his check according to the last letter I got from SSA.
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I am sorry about your husband and you are not the type of people I am talking about. My Mom is dying of cancer and she gets SSDI. I know its rough out there. There is no way your husband can work Its these young kids who have been collecting since they were 5 that make sme angry the ones who can work. I sincerly hope your husbands health improves and you can get back to where you were.
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I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam.
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You don't see the big picture. You don't see how your line of work is the epitome of 'disability'.

Basically you say, "I'm gonna control all the houses here so that people have to pay me to live in them. Since people need a place to live well I'll just make them go out and work for it and they'll have to pay me to live in one of my houses."

You're the disabled leech, fool.
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Hey asshole I don't own the properties I manage them. I have a job so I don't live on disabiltiy or welfare. I am sorry if I offended your way of life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


Ok, so you're worse than the owner of the property - you're like his lackey bitch. Not only that, you work overtime to further oppress his victims as being the scum of the earth and pointing to them as the problem. You're like the officers in nazi germany who did Hitler's bidding and said, "hey, I was just doing my job, how else was I supposed to eat?". But really you were berating the "disabled" the whole time, hating them, and your post proves it.
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Fuck you! I am not oppressing anyone. I am not berating the disabled. I am talking about the ones who should not be getting the shit at all. Again if you feel so guilty about cheating the Goernment go get a fucking job and pay your taxes. Don't take your shit out on me because I call you out on your scam.
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Wow I cannot believe you people are all for people cheating the system. You get on here bitchin about people getting food stamps, welfare, you want drug tests to get welfare, want to end all social programs. I point out a segment of the population that is truley srewing the taxpayers and you get all pissed off at me. So you thinks its ok for parents to stick the kid on SSDI and then they collect it all there lives without paying in a dime? Thats whats wrong with this Country. I am not talking about truley disabled or sick people. I am talking about ones that have the ability to work.
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the military. a trillion dollar drain on society.
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I know of people when they receive their ssi/ ssd checks they pay rent and the rest goes to crack / cocaine. All smoked up in one night.
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You don't see the big picture. You don't see how your line of work is the epitome of 'disability'.

Basically you say, "I'm gonna control all the houses here so that people have to pay me to live in them. Since people need a place to live well I'll just make them go out and work for it and they'll have to pay me to live in one of my houses."

You're the disabled leech, fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421828


Hey asshole I don't own the properties I manage them. I have a job so I don't live on disabiltiy or welfare. I am sorry if I offended your way of life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


Ok, so you're worse than the owner of the property - you're like his lackey bitch. Not only that, you work overtime to further oppress his victims as being the scum of the earth and pointing to them as the problem. You're like the officers in nazi germany who did Hitler's bidding and said, "hey, I was just doing my job, how else was I supposed to eat?". But really you were berating the "disabled" the whole time, hating them, and your post proves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421828


Fuck you! I am not oppressing anyone. I am not berating the disabled. I am talking about the ones who should not be getting the shit at all. Again if you feel so guilty about cheating the Goernment go get a fucking job and pay your taxes. Don't take your shit out on me because I call you out on your scam.
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If you were really talking about the ones who should not be getting the shit at all, you'd be wise enough to know that it's your greedy land owning "lord" that you serve and their whole rotten system of holding more property than they need to live in. You're pointing at the symptom - the people who are crazy from not understanding why that system works and why they have to go work at mcdonalds and mow lawns just to have a place to sleep.
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Wow I cannot believe you people are all for people cheating the system. You get on here bitchin about people getting food stamps, welfare, you want drug tests to get welfare, want to end all social programs. I point out a segment of the population that is truley srewing the taxpayers and you get all pissed off at me. So you thinks its ok for parents to stick the kid on SSDI and then they collect it all there lives without paying in a dime? Thats whats wrong with this Country. I am not talking about truley disabled or sick people. I am talking about ones that have the ability to work.
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Hey Mr. Denial, you're the one cheating the system. Actually, you're just a tool for the "lord" you serve who is the one REALLY cheating the system.

Take a long hard reflective look at who the asshole is - the guy with 20 properties in your 10000 person town, or the kid who just wants a place to sleep?

Then look at your place in it all. Ever hear of a shill? You're one of them.
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Wow I cannot believe you people are all for people cheating the system. You get on here bitchin about people getting food stamps, welfare, you want drug tests to get welfare, want to end all social programs. I point out a segment of the population that is truley srewing the taxpayers and you get all pissed off at me. So you thinks its ok for parents to stick the kid on SSDI and then they collect it all there lives without paying in a dime? Thats whats wrong with this Country. I am not talking about truley disabled or sick people. I am talking about ones that have the ability to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


Hey Mr. Denial, you're the one cheating the system. Actually, you're just a tool for the "lord" you serve who is the one REALLY cheating the system.

Take a long hard reflective look at who the asshole is - the guy with 20 properties in your 10000 person town, or the kid who just wants a place to sleep?

Then look at your place in it all. Ever hear of a shill? You're one of them.
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Yep because I get up and go to work every fucking day and don't cheat the system. Do you know how many people need housing. What should we take away all the properties and give them to people who don't own a house. The same people who tear shit up and don't pay rent or utilities? Yeah that will work more of a free ride. That kid who needs a place to sleep can do what I did get a JOB and support themselves. I am not shill, I am a taxpaying citizen who wants the bullshit to stop. I am all for social programs when they are not being abused.
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Wow I cannot believe you people are all for people cheating the system. You get on here bitchin about people getting food stamps, welfare, you want drug tests to get welfare, want to end all social programs. I point out a segment of the population that is truley srewing the taxpayers and you get all pissed off at me. So you thinks its ok for parents to stick the kid on SSDI and then they collect it all there lives without paying in a dime? Thats whats wrong with this Country. I am not talking about truley disabled or sick people. I am talking about ones that have the ability to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


Hey Mr. Denial, you're the one cheating the system. Actually, you're just a tool for the "lord" you serve who is the one REALLY cheating the system.

Take a long hard reflective look at who the asshole is - the guy with 20 properties in your 10000 person town, or the kid who just wants a place to sleep?

Then look at your place in it all. Ever hear of a shill? You're one of them.
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Yep because I get up and go to work every fucking day and don't cheat the system. Do you know how many people need housing. What should we take away all the properties and give them to people who don't own a house. The same people who tear shit up and don't pay rent or utilities? Yeah that will work more of a free ride. That kid who needs a place to sleep can do what I did get a JOB and support themselves. I am not shill, I am a taxpaying citizen who wants the bullshit to stop. I am all for social programs when they are not being abused.
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"Owning a home" used to be a social program but was abused by "land lords" who bought up more homes than they needed for their own survival and started charging people for the right to live there. Why aren't you against that thousands of years old abuse, but all of a sudden so against the SSDI abuse? Because you're the land lord's tool?
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Wow I cannot believe you people are all for people cheating the system. You get on here bitchin about people getting food stamps, welfare, you want drug tests to get welfare, want to end all social programs. I point out a segment of the population that is truley srewing the taxpayers and you get all pissed off at me. So you thinks its ok for parents to stick the kid on SSDI and then they collect it all there lives without paying in a dime? Thats whats wrong with this Country. I am not talking about truley disabled or sick people. I am talking about ones that have the ability to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


Hey Mr. Denial, you're the one cheating the system. Actually, you're just a tool for the "lord" you serve who is the one REALLY cheating the system.

Take a long hard reflective look at who the asshole is - the guy with 20 properties in your 10000 person town, or the kid who just wants a place to sleep?

Then look at your place in it all. Ever hear of a shill? You're one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421828


Yep because I get up and go to work every fucking day and don't cheat the system. Do you know how many people need housing. What should we take away all the properties and give them to people who don't own a house. The same people who tear shit up and don't pay rent or utilities? Yeah that will work more of a free ride. That kid who needs a place to sleep can do what I did get a JOB and support themselves. I am not shill, I am a taxpaying citizen who wants the bullshit to stop. I am all for social programs when they are not being abused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


"Owning a home" used to be a social program but was abused by "land lords" who bought up more homes than they needed for their own survival and started charging people for the right to live there. Why aren't you against that thousands of years old abuse, but all of a sudden so against the SSDI abuse? Because you're the land lord's tool?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421828


I am not saying that the whole housing system isn't corrupt. My boss is the biggest Republican asshole I have ever met in my life. He doesn't pay his employees shit. As in I could make just a few dollars less and work at McDonalds. I have to pay for my own work cell phone. He pays cash and calls us 1099 independant contractors, but we never get a 1099. He doesn't want to do any maintnance to the properties. But I do anyways, as I treat all the tenants fair and make sure they have a nice decent place to live. Would I ever rent from him, hell no. I am not saying he is right at all. He has bought up all these properties in my town, lives out of State and then doesn't want to do shit here. The only reason I haven't quit is the fact that I like my tenants and don't want to see them screwed over. In fact my kids rent apartments from him. There is a need for apartments. My son isn't in any financial position to buy a home, yet. I am not defending Landlords at all. I am simply pointing out, that some of these people could work, the same as you and I. Two wrongs do not make a right. I don't think it is fair to truley disabled people like the lady who posted in this thread, or to us the taxpayers.
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I am all for temporary welfare when someone loses a job. I am all for helping people who help themselves. I know that God forbid me and my family could be on skid row.I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam. These "kids" are put on SSDI when they are very young for behaviour problems or a lower IQ than clasmates, or any percieved disabiltiy the parents can find to start collecting free money. Then these kids grow up and still collect the rest of thier lives and live off the taxpayers.

For instance have a young couple early 20's both get over 500 a month on SSDI. They both also have full medical and get food stamps. Now they are a tad off a little slow. But both physically able to work. In fact he mows lawns all summer for cash, has quite the customer base built up. She builds furniture and does odd jobs. They both have smoke, have cell phones, cable and internet. A few months ago he tells me she is pregnant. So they are going to have a kid which will probably also be on SSDI.
This is not the only example. I have ran into probably 50 young adults on SSDI in our town off under 10,000. These people have never paid a dollar into Social Security and never will. I had a nieghbor in her 20's who was on it, and all three of her young kids were on it because of lead poisoning. Now why can't these people get jobs? Most of them work for cash so they are physically able. Why do they deserve a free ride the rest of thier lives?

Now I understand a severly diasabled child or adult getting benefits. But I think the standards need to be set a little higher. Most of the families that are on welfare have at least one child on SSDI. This is obsurd. There is a time limit on welfare, but these people will get SSDI until the programs runs out of money. It makes me angry when I work my ass off to get by and these people get free money, when they could work. I think this is a bigger travisty than welfare ever has been. So if I am able to retire in my 70's the money I have paid in will not be there. I sure had no idea this scam was this bad until I ran into these people in my line of work. Maybe if the Government kicked these people off the free ride it would keep the program solvent for the ones who need it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


OP, you are talking about SSI, not SSDI. A person is eligible for SSDI only if they have paid into the system after working - (like a mandatory insurance policy). SSI is given to anyone who can't survive on their own, even if they've never worked a day in their lives. Kids who have never worked can only get SSI. Hope that helps you out.
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07/03/2011 02:03 PM
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Re: SSDI- The Drain on Society
I am all for temporary welfare when someone loses a job. I am all for helping people who help themselves. I know that God forbid me and my family could be on skid row.I work in the real estate rental field and I had no idea how many people are on Social Security Disability. I call it the disabilty scam. These "kids" are put on SSDI when they are very young for behaviour problems or a lower IQ than clasmates, or any percieved disabiltiy the parents can find to start collecting free money. Then these kids grow up and still collect the rest of thier lives and live off the taxpayers.

For instance have a young couple early 20's both get over 500 a month on SSDI. They both also have full medical and get food stamps. Now they are a tad off a little slow. But both physically able to work. In fact he mows lawns all summer for cash, has quite the customer base built up. She builds furniture and does odd jobs. They both have smoke, have cell phones, cable and internet. A few months ago he tells me she is pregnant. So they are going to have a kid which will probably also be on SSDI.
This is not the only example. I have ran into probably 50 young adults on SSDI in our town off under 10,000. These people have never paid a dollar into Social Security and never will. I had a nieghbor in her 20's who was on it, and all three of her young kids were on it because of lead poisoning. Now why can't these people get jobs? Most of them work for cash so they are physically able. Why do they deserve a free ride the rest of thier lives?

Now I understand a severly diasabled child or adult getting benefits. But I think the standards need to be set a little higher. Most of the families that are on welfare have at least one child on SSDI. This is obsurd. There is a time limit on welfare, but these people will get SSDI until the programs runs out of money. It makes me angry when I work my ass off to get by and these people get free money, when they could work. I think this is a bigger travisty than welfare ever has been. So if I am able to retire in my 70's the money I have paid in will not be there. I sure had no idea this scam was this bad until I ran into these people in my line of work. Maybe if the Government kicked these people off the free ride it would keep the program solvent for the ones who need it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400664


OP, you are talking about SSI, not SSDI. A person is eligible for SSDI only if they have paid into the system after working - (like a mandatory insurance policy). SSI is given to anyone who can't survive on their own, even if they've never worked a day in their lives. Kids who have never worked can only get SSI. Hope that helps you out.
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Thanks I appreciate your correction I guess I was confused my Mom gets SSDI and the kid I rent to said he gets Social Security Disability. I know he has never worked he has gotten it since he was 5.
Anonymous Coward
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07/03/2011 02:09 PM
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OP:

You need to do more homework.
You're just at the start of waking up.

You should see how much we spend on painting navel ships.
Then see how much we spend on painting tanks.
Then see how much we spend on painting aircraft.

I think the numbers will shock you.

Then you'll see that we could pay everyone in the USA 5k a month and still be under the cost of PAINT.

Then when you take into account that I'm just talking about the money spent on PAINT!

Poor people are not draining you or me.
Plus all the money they make goes right back to the gov.
poor people go right to walmart and spend that money.
It's just a big loop.

Do more homework.


-peace
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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07/03/2011 02:15 PM
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OP:

You need to do more homework.
You're just at the start of waking up.

You should see how much we spend on painting navel ships.
Then see how much we spend on painting tanks.
Then see how much we spend on painting aircraft.

I think the numbers will shock you.

Then you'll see that we could pay everyone in the USA 5k a month and still be under the cost of PAINT.

Then when you take into account that I'm just talking about the money spent on PAINT!

Poor people are not draining you or me.
Plus all the money they make goes right back to the gov.
poor people go right to walmart and spend that money.
It's just a big loop.

Do more homework.


-peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1324396


Your right. It just upsets me because I see it everyday. Mothers collecting welfare and having kids on SSI. I hate my job but I am stuck. I agree the Goverment wastes money left and right. I just would like to see able people work for a living. Like the rest of us has to do.
Dark Age

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07/03/2011 02:17 PM
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It is bull shit! I have four dead discs in my lower back. No surgery can fix me because of my first surgery. I've been trying to get SSDI for two years now. I can't work I can't sit or stand for more than an hour, every minute of everyday is pain and misery for me. Then I hear stories of how people get disability for the dumbest shit then they work off the books on top of it. I just found out my friends sister who has one mild disk problem, nothing compare to mine, just got SSDI in one shot no questions asked, fuck this shit.
Freedom requires breathing room, the Constitution presupposes that there will be some crazies among us so that the rest of us can enjoy freedom. - Judge Andrew Napolitano

A huge shit cloud is coming!
Anonymous Coward
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07/03/2011 02:18 PM
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SSDI is SUPPLEMENTAL Security Disabillity, NOT Social Security. Some people really need it because we still live on the fake money system. Once we give up money, nobody needs support. Ponder it. Every body works at something that can. No medical experiences, all free with no money.

no people on welfare, every one eats right, less disability and on and on and on.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


borderline marxist

how does one pursue a career from the time they first attend school?

if all people did as they wanted, we'd not get far

civilization would decline rapidly
Anonymous Coward
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07/03/2011 02:22 PM
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OP:

You need to do more homework.
You're just at the start of waking up.

You should see how much we spend on painting navel ships.
Then see how much we spend on painting tanks.
Then see how much we spend on painting aircraft.

I think the numbers will shock you.

Then you'll see that we could pay everyone in the USA 5k a month and still be under the cost of PAINT.

Then when you take into account that I'm just talking about the money spent on PAINT!

Poor people are not draining you or me.
Plus all the money they make goes right back to the gov.
poor people go right to walmart and spend that money.
It's just a big loop.

Do more homework.


-peace
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you are able bodied and an adult...no free ride

period

get off your lazy ass and contribute more exfoliation and carbon dioxide production
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07/03/2011 02:24 PM
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Hey Mr. Denial, you're the one cheating the system. Actually, you're just a tool for the "lord" you serve who is the one REALLY cheating the system.

Take a long hard reflective look at who the asshole is - the guy with 20 properties in your 10000 person town, or the kid who just wants a place to sleep?

Then look at your place in it all. Ever hear of a shill? You're one of them.
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Yep because I get up and go to work every fucking day and don't cheat the system. Do you know how many people need housing. What should we take away all the properties and give them to people who don't own a house. The same people who tear shit up and don't pay rent or utilities? Yeah that will work more of a free ride. That kid who needs a place to sleep can do what I did get a JOB and support themselves. I am not shill, I am a taxpaying citizen who wants the bullshit to stop. I am all for social programs when they are not being abused.
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"Owning a home" used to be a social program but was abused by "land lords" who bought up more homes than they needed for their own survival and started charging people for the right to live there. Why aren't you against that thousands of years old abuse, but all of a sudden so against the SSDI abuse? Because you're the land lord's tool?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421828


I am not saying that the whole housing system isn't corrupt. My boss is the biggest Republican asshole I have ever met in my life. He doesn't pay his employees shit. As in I could make just a few dollars less and work at McDonalds. I have to pay for my own work cell phone. He pays cash and calls us 1099 independant contractors, but we never get a 1099. He doesn't want to do any maintnance to the properties. But I do anyways, as I treat all the tenants fair and make sure they have a nice decent place to live. Would I ever rent from him, hell no. I am not saying he is right at all. He has bought up all these properties in my town, lives out of State and then doesn't want to do shit here. The only reason I haven't quit is the fact that I like my tenants and don't want to see them screwed over. In fact my kids rent apartments from him. There is a need for apartments. My son isn't in any financial position to buy a home, yet. I am not defending Landlords at all. I am simply pointing out, that some of these people could work, the same as you and I. Two wrongs do not make a right. I don't think it is fair to truley disabled people like the lady who posted in this thread, or to us the taxpayers.
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Thanks for at least closing the loop. If your asshole out-of-state landlord douche of a boss is the end recipient of that SSDI check in the form of "rent", then again, tell me how the kid looking for a place to sleep is the problem?

Basically you're just pissed that he's not as much of a tool as you.
Thoreau

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07/03/2011 02:26 PM
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I know people who just are lazy and addicted to computer games so they get themselves labled disabled by a psychiatrist and get about $1300 a month. This one bitch has a prius and a better computer than I do. She has never worked a day in her life and is almost 30.
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07/03/2011 02:28 PM
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Unless you are very wealthy the only way to financial security anymore is social security or other welfare programs.
Judethz

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07/03/2011 02:29 PM
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makes too much for medicaid and his medicines of which there are many are really expensive.

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mexgal Maybe someone in your area organises drug buying trips to Mexico?

Edit: NO - not that kind of drugs. LOL

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07/03/2011 02:32 PM
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the military. a trillion dollar drain on society.
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Yes, this is where the money goes, the majority of it

One navy ocean liner cost a billion dollars.





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