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OBAMA THINKING OF BYPASSING CONGRESS TO RAISE NATIONAL DEBT LIMIT

 
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Talk about a man with Hitler-type obsessions, Obama is starting to think like Hugo Chavez because Obama thinks he's smarter than anyone regarding the Constitution.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, warned President Obama on Sunday to not even consider interpreting the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment to bypass Congress and raise the debt limit without its approval.

"That's crazy talk. It's not acceptable for Congress and the president not to do their job and to say somehow the president has the authority then to basically do this by himself," Cornyn, a former judge on the Texas Supreme Court, told "Fox News Sunday."

The proposal that Obama re-interpret Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment to justify raising the $14.3 trillion debt limit has been gaining traction in Democratic circles since Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told reporters that the Constitution's language could support the president's raising the limit without congressional approval.

More here: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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That didn't take long to hit page 2.
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You betcha the republicans are gonna let him do it.

They are a bunch of wimps.
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Just because someone does something, what makes it "a go"?

Just ignore it, it never happened...that'll freak out
someone.
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If he tries that he will be arrested and most of congress along with him.
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"I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800

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I bet bankers everywhere will rejoice in the news.





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Talk about a man with Hitler-type obsessions, Obama is starting to think like Hugo Chavez because Obama thinks he's smarter than anyone regarding the Constitution.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, warned President Obama on Sunday to not even consider interpreting the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment to bypass Congress and raise the debt limit without its approval.

"That's crazy talk. It's not acceptable for Congress and the president not to do their job and to say somehow the president has the authority then to basically do this by himself," Cornyn, a former judge on the Texas Supreme Court, told "Fox News Sunday."

The proposal that Obama re-interpret Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment to justify raising the $14.3 trillion debt limit has been gaining traction in Democratic circles since Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told reporters that the Constitution's language could support the president's raising the limit without congressional approval.

More here: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453301


Obama's responsibility is to the American people not to a
few Tea Party nut jobs. If congress doesn't want money spent
they shouldn't authorize its spending. Default is clearly
in violation of the 14th amendment.
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If Obama trys this he should be thrown in jail and tried for crimes against the American people.
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Tyranny is such an ugly thing..

Marcus Tullius Cicero quotes:
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
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Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) ** Germany ***

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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The United States Of Obama????
Whats that Nation's Flag gonna look like?
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I think the republicans will not pass any deal now, simply so they can watch this train wreck and blame the president.

The president does not want to look weak again, after he caved on extending the bush era tax cuts.

It's a classic game of chicken. I don't think a deal will be reached in time. And I for one and quite pleased with that.

Let the house of cards come crashing down. My life won't change either way.

It's funny how if your broke and living paycheck to paycheck, stuff like this don't mean a hill of beans to you.
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Let me think about this.
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
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Same thing happened in Rome when Julius Caesar decided that the Roman Senate that represented the people was irrelevant.

We all know what happened to Rome don't we?
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Get used to seeing this word soon: quadrillion, quadrillion,
quadrillion, quadrillion, ... it's the next trillion..

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The 14th Amendment most definitely does NOT give the President the authority to act unilaterally on this matter, on top of this, it goes against all prior legislative precedent.

The only suitable response to this action by the executive would be articles of impeachment, and I don't say that lightly by any means but this matter is black and white.
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If he tries that he will be arrested and most of congress along with him.
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LOL keep dreaming.
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115529


Same thing happened in Rome when Julius Caesar decided that the Roman Senate that represented the people was irrelevant.

We all know what happened to Rome don't we?
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We all know what happened to Caesar, don't we?

Last Edited by Northforker on 07/03/2011 08:10 PM
Calling an illegal alien an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!

Herbert Spencer, originator of the term, "Survival of the Fittest," said it best - "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115529


Same thing happened in Rome when Julius Caesar decided that the Roman Senate that represented the people was irrelevant.

We all know what happened to Rome don't we?
 Quoting: -Samson-


We all know what happened to Caesar, don't we?
Calling an illegal alien an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!

Herbert Spencer, originator of the term, "Survival of the Fittest," said it best - "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."
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Who cares? He'll do whatever we let him get away with, like anyone else in power. Remember when the President enacted the Dream Act by executive order? Not a peep. The rubicon was crossed long ago, why care now?
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115529


Same thing happened in Rome when Julius Caesar decided that the Roman Senate that represented the people was irrelevant.

We all know what happened to Rome don't we?
 Quoting: -Samson-


We all know what happened to Caesar, don't we?
 Quoting: Northforker


Rome actually attained the greatest extent of it's power under the Empire between Augustus and Hadrian, whose reign ended in 138CE, so maybe it's not all bad news. cool2

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And this should surprise anybody?!
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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That didn't take long to hit page 2.
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easy there skippy, relax let everyone take a gander at everything on here. Get your roll of paper towels out and start wiping your tears. I feel sorry for you fucking people who complain about anything. Your life really needs to be put into prospective.
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
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how long will we keep this shit up? It's becoming a dictatorship/oligarcy not a democracy. We are seriously fucked.
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Bottom line is, they are getting tired of us not getting up off our asses and doing something. I'm sure this is one idea on a long list, that they have in their bag of tricks. The Pres will do this and if we still are sitting on our asses, then he simply goes to the next idea on the list. I don't know who is more irritated we the people or TPTB.
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Talk about a man with Hitler-type obsessions, Obama is starting to think like Hugo Chavez because Obama thinks he's smarter than anyone regarding the Constitution.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, warned President Obama on Sunday to not even consider interpreting the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment to bypass Congress and raise the debt limit without its approval.

"That's crazy talk. It's not acceptable for Congress and the president not to do their job and to say somehow the president has the authority then to basically do this by himself," Cornyn, a former judge on the Texas Supreme Court, told "Fox News Sunday."

The proposal that Obama re-interpret Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment to justify raising the $14.3 trillion debt limit has been gaining traction in Democratic circles since Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told reporters that the Constitution's language could support the president's raising the limit without congressional approval.

More here: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453301


Obama's responsibility is to the American people not to a
few Tea Party nut jobs. If congress doesn't want money spent
they shouldn't authorize its spending. Default is clearly
in violation of the 14th amendment.
 Quoting: Mercurius 1087913


Shill much? The Tea Party is comprised of American citizens who are quite sane, & who see the Constitution and our Bill of Rights being trashed by corporate paid off thugs in Congress and the White House.
Within a couple of years, the very sane Tea Partiers exerted enough power to scare the crap out of the crooks in our government.

The article itself did not mention the Tea Party. It did mention a former Texas Supreme Court Judge who is now a senator.

Go back to Obama and tell him you failed.

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