2200 Observations at JPL of ELENIN!!!

Thanks everyone that gave 5 stars. Much appreciated. Will be back later to check on any new theories.

Factoid: 'Tards of all kinds will always find conspiracy and DOOM in data they don't understand.

You have made the assertion. Now back it up with some evidence. YouTube vids and kOOk websites that present the author's delusions do not qualify as evidence.
Put up or shut up, tard.

How's this for a primer? -
Every comet that has been hyped by the kOOks as possibly being an impactor or trailing an infamous "debris trail" that would possibly impact with ELE consequences.
Nasa and rationalists have stated those ideas were kOOky and it wasn't going to happen. kOOks called them liars.
I don't remember any comets impacting earth, do you?
Score:
NASA & Rationalist = 100% correct
kOOks = 0% correct

In like manner, every asteroid that the woowoos go berzerk over. NASA & rationalists have stated "no impact, possible impact, (rarely)will impact". kOOks called them liars.
What's the score been on that account?
Score:
NASA & Rationalist = 100% correct
kOOks = 0% correct





Repeating a lie does not make it true, but it is de rigueur for lying kOOks.

Try these, tard:



C/2006 W3 (Christensen)
C/2005 L3 (McNaught)
C/2006 OF2 (Broughton)
C/2002 T7 (LINEAR)
C/2001 HT50 (LINEAR-NEAT)
C/2007 N3 (Lulin)
C/2003 K4 (LINEAR)
C/2004 Q2 (Machholz)
C/2001 K5 (LINEAR)
C/2001 RX14 (LINEAR)
P/2006 HR30 (Siding Spring)
116P/Wild 4
73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3-C
C/2006 Q1 (McNaught)
C/2008 FK75 (Lemmon-Siding Spring)
144P/Kushida
C/2001 Q4 (NEAT)
C/2003 WT42 (LINEAR)
C/2009 K5 (McNaught)
217P/LINEAR
C/2006 S3 (LONEOS)
93P/Lovas 1
123P/West-Hartley

I'll bet that you will reject them all because they're not "Elenin-like" in some fashion.

Why don't you be honest and admit that what you really want is to be shown a list of comets that are exactly like Elenin that don't have size estimates.

Well, there's only 1 comet exactly like Elenin... and that's C/2010 X1 Elenin so your objections are merely a pathetic kOOk strawman.

I, personally, advocate that Elenin is PX/Nibiru.
When it whizzes by this autumn to not return for thousands of years if ever, we can finally throw the PX/Nibiru lunacy in the trash where it belongs.
We can then tell the PXers to shut up, they had their PX moment in the fall of 2011.

Then you tards can get back to what's really important... asking people, "Would you like fries with that order?"


R.

You are right, I stopped looking at your list after 5 NEO. None of them get even remotely close to earth. Were talked about as much, debated as much.

Some only show close apprach data to Jupiter, because they get no where near earth.

Thanks for the info though.

Last Edited by Ariock on 07/04/2011 12:13 PM

Thread full of shills and sockpuppets.

And another debunker prediction comes true.
You tards are just too easy.
Let's see, that keeps the score at:

Debunkers - 100%
kOOks - 0%

You have a wonderful future in the food service industry. Remember to smile at the customers.


R.

I don't know, didn't it end in death for most of those guys? This would not be the first time my life has been threatened, so that's why I asked. I have to. Note, I asked you, I didn't accuse you of threatening me. No need to get petulant about it.

Why? The minor planet center is the organization responsible for collecting and publishing astrometric observations, as well as the resulting orbits. They are a division of the International Astronomical Union, not a part of NASA. NASA/JPL simply republishes the orbits that they calculate.

And again I don't think my communication skills have anything to do with it. It has everything to do with what I debunk. I could be the nicest guy possible, or the most foul mouthed poster possible, and in either case I'd still be called a shill by just as many people.

Back on page 3 of your thread:

So again, what do I win?

Last Edited by Astromut on 07/04/2011 12:28 PM

Of course they have a good guess, it's in the same ballpark as every other minor comet. There is no way to resolve the size directly unless it's observed by radar when it's much closer. They don't have numbers for the other comets with thousands of observations I listed either. No one's particularly concerned because we know it's a minor comet and we know they're not the size of planets. If it were it would have dramatically perturbed the asteroids it flew right by. It didn't.

Yes, the quakes are going exactly clockwise around the ring of fire, Alasaka just a 7 pointer a few weeks.

Comet Elenin Alignments 2011

[link to www.youtube.com]

They(JPL) project NEO orbits for the future years 2100, 2200, 2300, etc. Gazing at these sky amoebas -\/-they have become unstuck in time.

Comet Swift-Tuttle obtained with the Spacewatch Telescope.  (1992 November 24)
[link to spacewatch.lpl.arizona.edu]

Earth always changes, I'd be concerned if it stopped changing. Earth goes through warm periods, it goes through ice ages, it even goes through mini versions of both and can do so suddenly. Change is an inevitable fact of an active planet orbiting an active star. An example of a celestial body that doesn't change is the moon. For all intents and purposes it's dead. It may outgas here and there a bit, quake a bit as it does so, but generally speaking it's dead. Not a very friendly place to live either.

Mars is another example. It lost much of its atmosphere because its magnetic field died and the solar wind has stripped it away over millions of years. Also not a very friendly place to live.

As to the question of whether earth's natural variations are due to an approaching massive object or brown dwarf, the answer is no.

Last Edited by Astromut on 07/04/2011 12:42 PM

that is why you're here though.
to point out their stupidity and belittle them with your utter superiority.

When a comet passes near to the Sun, some of its matter is evaporated by the Sun's radiation. This evaporation does not necessarily happen symmetrically, but can act rather like a variable rocket motor attached to the comet, causing non-symmetrical forces that distort its orbit in an unpredictable way.

Comet Swift-Tuttle was rediscovered in September 1992, almost 10 years away from its expected position. The chances of such an Earth collision are very difficult to estimate. If we take the known velocity of the comet relative to the Earth, then we can work out that the comet will only collide with the Earth if it is within a three and a half minute time-slot in its orbit. This means, for instance, that an error of only one hour in the timing of the comet will result in it missing the Earth by about 100 thousand kilometres.

If we compare that accuracy with the error of 10 years in this predicted return, we can see how difficult such predictions are!
[link to www.oarval.org]

So you don't have any evidence?
It is just something that for some reason you have a need to believe?
To the devil with the presumption of innocence?

Unlike you I don't go through live presuming everybody 'official' is evil all the time.


But not by the Gubmint.

By academics and private individuals.


What's your fetish with 'official' statements anyway?

That is not how science is done, it does not depend on 'official' statements by some Gubmint agency.


What seems odd to you might not to someone a bit more knowledgeable about how these things are done.
I don't understand this is pretty meaningless.

I don't understand knitting, yet sweaters exist.


A suspect that the basis of your suspicions is rooted much deeper.


Nope.
Small things are harder to measure then big things.
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Can't take the heat?


So you are a coward.
You don't want to debate. You are afraid to debate.
You just want to declare. So go get a blog.


If something can not be proven maybe it shouldn't be asserted in the first place.

If someone claims actor X lies all the time it is up to that someone to provide evidence for that claim.
Someone hasn't even been able to provide evidence for even a single case.

So basically it is a smear, an ad hom attack.
And you are defending it?

because people know it exists and if they did not say that it exists than it would be easily seen that they are hiding Elenin

LMAO. So true. You'd think by now some of them would wake up and realize who is really lying to them....here's a clue, it isn't NASA nor Astronut that's been lying. The Conspirists never admit they were wrong. See below.






Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 07/04/2011 01:52 PM

Yeah, we don't want anyone who actually knows what they're talking about ruining our doom.

Never rule out any possibility no matter what you personally believe.

I am open minded and came across this and want to investigate more. Seems there is some weird things that are out of this world about Elenin.

The truth seems that it is under intelligent control. Read more here:

[link to thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com]

The rabbit hole is getting deeper.

BZZT! HOW did "people" come to know that Elenin exists?

No, that would be the hole in your head from which your brains are leaking.

comets are a dime a dozen comet elenin is very very different!!!!

JPL investigates Near Earth Orbit objects. It is outside their mandate to investigate Earth Impact objects; There is another group that investigates that; EIO, they don't get much press. Purdue University/Imperial College. According to them, typical impact velocities are 17 km/s for asteroids and 51 km/s for comets. The maximum Earth impact velocity for objects orbiting the Sun is 72 km/s.

Man, oh man! Quote of the thread!!

I may have to nick that for a sig...

THE 'NUT' and Guzzel Milk send their regrets, OP.

They have 'early reservations' to Barney Franks ' Bend Over ' party at Cape Cod, and find it HARD ( LOL ) to get to their computers with their pant down around their ankles, and a Line of Jumpers insisting on being NEXT !

When/IF they recover enough to 'straighten UP' and walk, they will return to their fag/shill professions.

too bad elenin is too small and will be well past earth before it even crosses its path behind it.

Note: No response.

HOW did "people" come to know that Elenin exists?

It's amazing to read all the comments that are obviously NASA goons trying to "prevent a panic" by making Elinin sound like a hoax. I wonder how much tax money the government is spending to pay these blogger blabbers?

Why is it that the last 3 major earth quakes that have created such misery and havoc on Earth is just down played and NOT associated with astrological facts? Then just giving it a bit of attention and credit to HAARP?

Even the JPL shows the exact alignments of those days of the last major earthquakes!! The ring of fire seems to be going clockwise - so who is next? The US west coast.

Hurry up folks! Last time you will have a chance to feel and see the mighty Golden Gate Bridge. By the end of September 2011 it will be crashed in the ocean and who knows what will be left of San Francisco . . .

The problem they are having is how to hide it from the majority of the public to avoid mass panic and hysteria. Only the bright ones with some IQ can extrapolate and do some Google research and figure out for themselves that this is real. It's just a matter of HOW bad it will be - because it will be serioulsy nasty. I don't even know how to prepare and predict what will be left. How can we live without electronic gadgets and the internet? The entire economical system is built on an infrastructure of computers and electronics.

We should all go and charge and max out our credit cards and live it up while we can! The government is working full time to rob the entire USA with all their mortgage and wallstreet frauds - so it is time to live it up and get some good days before the banks will be wiped out and "a natural disaster" will declare the economy bottomed out.

Behind our backs and under our nose, they have been planning for this for decades, building underground cities on strategical places like Denver airport.

Where will you be Obama on the 25th of September? Press conference in Denver?

For the few that survive - there will be no dollars anymore, only gold and silver and the new Amero currency will be implemented!

Find out here:

wwww.amero.mx

Like many others are saying - stock up on food and water and prepare for the worst!

ps! and all you Jesus freaks - scrap the bible - it's just another 2000 year hoax. All those phoney profecies and quotes might be true but it has been documented and proven in many other ways. When you run out of TP use that bible in the BR.

Mr. Elenin... does he work for NASA?