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Sorry I have been preparing myself and also trying to learn more. will answer some of these as i can.
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Can u hint at who gave u this info? Could it be disinformation?

So will the bishops be planning to stay through 2012?

Thanks for the update.
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It could be. Ive been asking all sources I can think of, not just here. Ive also followed up on what some people have mentioned here by reading more... theres so much I dont know what to believe exactly, but I can prepare for a few things. Ive told what i know to people... some have no idea, some dont believe me, some whisper in hushed tones... one even told me to drop it... i dont know if they knew anything or were just defending the church, i find some catholics defend the church to the death without ever questioning them.


I originally came here looking for more... for help... for validation... got some leads... got a lot of junk.


Do i know whats going on with certainty? no
Do i know something big is going down? i think so.


I didnt come here to convinc anyon, i could care less. I was looking for answers for me.
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According to this Third Secret of Fatima, the destruction of Rome is coming, this is now the 70th week of Daniel (right before that terrible day)- does the Vatican know about this release?
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There are many third secrets out there floating around. Theres even a story the nun that got it was replaced by an imposter(keep in mind im not an expert, im not even catholic).

I dont put any stock into the fatimamovement.org site
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OP, I hope you have more time this weekend to answer my questions, as I see you are too busy to do that now.


Your update didn't give me anything useful to get conclusions from. What you did is share your opinion on the subject. I need to know what is happening with the scheduled flights, if there is a return date set up or who else important you might get travel flights set up for and when, if any.

If you take your time and give me those latest details, I will in return give you your answer to what is really going on. I am more aware of what will happen in the near future then you might think (trust me, you have no idea of what I know).

And btw... your conclusions are way off to say the least (laughable to me), and if you meant ICE -> one of the GLP members, then yeah, your source of info is way off lol


...this info you are providing is more important then you think...



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Yes, I gave my opinion. Remember, i didnt come here to get info out... i came here giving some out in the hopes of getting more back.

There are still no return dates set up.

The friends of the church mentioned earlier are indeed taking their families(although some are going alone or made separate arrangements to the Baltimore MD and/or Columbus Ohio area.... keep in mind thats about 26 families from all over the country, each going to one of those two places... I have no idea why. I find it highly odd that theyd all go to one of two places if not going to Rome. Columbus especially is rather benign... and before someone says Wright Patterson for any reason... they could easily fly into Dayton cheaper.


They may be laughable, but i have no idea who you are and you never spoke to me before, i dont know you. Why dont you tell what you know?
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...this info you are providing is more important then you think...






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explain please
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I have to confess (that's the catholic in me I suppose) that I was very intrigued by this thread, as I typically am by peripheral sources of information. But this last update by OP felt, well, incongruous with the initial suggestions behind the peculiar travel arrangements.

This shift to a suspicion about more Islamophobic nuclear nightmares is almost anachronism by now. The threat of the so-called American Hiroshima plan has been publicly examined since 2002 and every few years there's renewed discussions of it's plausibility. I wouldn't entirely dismiss it as something that the violent fringe would still entertain to advance their fervent efforts to establish a Caliphate and perhaps even successfully accomplish in some campaign of terrorism. But frankly it just doesn't fit with the backdrop of evidence and suspicious one-way travel planning originally posted. I was expecting to hear of some additional inside knowledge of events to come in a much shorter time frame, as in Oct-Nov. This orchestrated movement as preparation for nuclear winter in 2012 was disappointing if for no other reason than it's pedestrian awareness - which clearly means nothing in regard to it's possible accuracy - just really did not go where I expected.

Such unusual activity and secretive communications coming as it likely is from Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano (SIV) in anticipation of OP's scenario is practically banal in comparison to what I expected. If OP is simply researching his suspicions then fine of course, but in my view it feels off track. Something bigger and more imminent is suggested by all this, assuming it is accurate, that's what my gut tells me, FWIW. Especially since this avenue of speculation has little if anything to do with the reports allegedly leaked from a Jesuit insider and member of the Vatican Secretum Omega in 2005 and have ever since captured my interest.
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Its multi-pronged really. I see what you say there. I think the two things are disconnected, nevertheless theyre both happening and both are issues the church is grappling with.

Theres something astronomical.

Theres a deep fear the Islamic Spring or Arab Spring will set the church back.



Theyre both unrelated... but both being dealt with. I was looking into the first, but started hearing things about the second which frankly scared me more than the first. I could be completely wrong, but it scared me anyway. Im sorry, thats my honest conclusion. In essence, when you say something bigger is going on, you may be right, i got sidetracked with the islamic thing, i have no idea if its a smoke screen or truly multiple issues going on at once. Either way im a little scared and preparing.

Im not a genius, im a normal gal. I do my job, i come home and feed my dogs. I was happier when my head was in the sand. You sound like you know way more than me.. im not being sarcastic, i wish you would tell anything you know. Id prefer to be wrong in all of this.
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I have to confess (that's the catholic in me I suppose) that I was very intrigued by this thread, as I typically am by peripheral sources of information. But this last update by OP felt, well, incongruous with the initial suggestions behind the peculiar travel arrangements.

This shift to a suspicion about more Islamophobic nuclear nightmares is almost anachronism by now. The threat of the so-called American Hiroshima plan has been publicly examined since 2002 and every few years there's renewed discussions of it's plausibility. I wouldn't entirely dismiss it as something that the violent fringe would still entertain to advance their fervent efforts to establish a Caliphate and perhaps even successfully accomplish in some campaign of terrorism. But frankly it just doesn't fit with the backdrop of evidence and suspicious one-way travel planning originally posted. I was expecting to hear of some additional inside knowledge of events to come in a much shorter time frame, as in Oct-Nov. This orchestrated movement as preparation for nuclear winter in 2012 was disappointing if for no other reason than it's pedestrian awareness - which clearly means nothing in regard to it's possible accuracy - just really did not go where I expected.

Such unusual activity and secretive communications coming as it likely is from Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano (SIV) in anticipation of OP's scenario is practically banal in comparison to what I expected. If OP is simply researching his suspicions then fine of course, but in my view it feels off track. Something bigger and more imminent is suggested by all this, assuming it is accurate, that's what my gut tells me, FWIW. Especially since this avenue of speculation has little if anything to do with the reports allegedly leaked from a Jesuit insider and member of the Vatican Secretum Omega in 2005 and have ever since captured my interest.
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I feel the same way regarding his latest comments.... They were definitely not on the same page as his previous posts... Seemed like a lot of personal speculation and conjecture based on little evidence, whereas the previous posts were statements he knew to be factual based on what information was available to him..


Also, as the poster above me requested, would love to know more about the last few sentences of your post.... Thanks...
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again... yes, its speculation.... remember i came here looking for info, not to spill the info and be the last word.
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I am a layperson working for Opera Romana Pellegrinaggi ran by Father Atuire.

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And you have a stash of precious religious object stolen from the Vatican you need help getting out of Italy, right??

dumbass



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i wish
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Thanks OP, none of us really knows what is going to happen for sure. You have added some really great material that is not discussed elsewhere.
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I have to confess (that's the catholic in me I suppose) that I was very intrigued by this thread, as I typically am by peripheral sources of information. But this last update by OP felt, well, incongruous with the initial suggestions behind the peculiar travel arrangements.

This shift to a suspicion about more Islamophobic nuclear nightmares is almost anachronism by now. The threat of the so-called American Hiroshima plan has been publicly examined since 2002 and every few years there's renewed discussions of it's plausibility. I wouldn't entirely dismiss it as something that the violent fringe would still entertain to advance their fervent efforts to establish a Caliphate and perhaps even successfully accomplish in some campaign of terrorism. But frankly it just doesn't fit with the backdrop of evidence and suspicious one-way travel planning originally posted. I was expecting to hear of some additional inside knowledge of events to come in a much shorter time frame, as in Oct-Nov. This orchestrated movement as preparation for nuclear winter in 2012 was disappointing if for no other reason than it's pedestrian awareness - which clearly means nothing in regard to it's possible accuracy - just really did not go where I expected.

Such unusual activity and secretive communications coming as it likely is from Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano (SIV) in anticipation of OP's scenario is practically banal in comparison to what I expected. If OP is simply researching his suspicions then fine of course, but in my view it feels off track. Something bigger and more imminent is suggested by all this, assuming it is accurate, that's what my gut tells me, FWIW. Especially since this avenue of speculation has little if anything to do with the reports allegedly leaked from a Jesuit insider and member of the Vatican Secretum Omega in 2005 and have ever since captured my interest.
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I feel the same way regarding his latest comments.... They were definitely not on the same page as his previous posts... Seemed like a lot of personal speculation and conjecture based on little evidence, whereas the previous posts were statements he knew to be factual based on what information was available to him..


Also, as the poster above me requested, would love to know more about the last few sentences of your post.... Thanks...
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again... yes, its speculation.... remember i came here looking for info, not to spill the info and be the last word.
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Fair enough.... I think a couple of us were just caught off guard thinking you were providing an update rather than sharing your opinion or speculating.... No harm, no foul.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Wow, a little disappointed to see a paranoid jump on me for one of very few posts I have ever left here. It's a free country (for now) but while it is I believe I'm still entitled to share my opinions as much as the next person here, which is all I did. Catholic bashing? Really? You can't know much about the RCC if you view all present and former adherents as one and the same, but then some folks jump to conclusions as readily as they adopt the frown over a smile. The immediate distrust of a self-proclaimed RC simply because I freely admit to my background demonstrates nothing but an ignorance of contemporary culture, much less sincere understanding of the modern condition of religious organizations like the RCC. Fine, as I said in my previous post, do your own research then, I've been a student of ancient history for likely longer than this forum has been around and have little need to persuade anyone here of my opinions. If you haven't learned how to use tools like Google effectively so you can separate the wheat from chaff, then I suppose that's the price of ignorance. I just hoped that OP had more interesting insights to share than what he finally came back with after several days of recovering from his trip, that's all. The Jesuit Order is the scientific community among the RCC insiders and that is part of what caught my attention. The consistency of their findings with other (again, alleged) scientific data from the SPT is a dot connection, nothing more.

I thought some might appreciate learning (independently) about other rather interesting info on the net that comes with a Vatican wrapper of intrigue. Deception? I can't imagine anyone making the effort from what I read on threads here. I hope everyone can recognize the obvious signal-to-noise ratio of this forum like many others. Be discerning is always good advice in any context, but be just as aware of people trying to exalt a subject into a scientific discipline when it is far from anything resembling that. The whole subject of an inhabited 'Nemesis' and planets that cross our ecliptic plane is based on many and varied sources of compelling historical myth and record, but trying to charade it as a noble science without benefit of any of the tools of science to support it is pure folly and ultimately a self-deception of its own.

It's fascinating stuff, with lots of intersecting lines and maybe eventually we discover that it's based on cosmological truth, but discussion doesn't make it so. We're all in this thing together and we'll all discover together among like-minded souls. I plainly distrust the RCC, so a story about an insider that spills info and documented to a reporter some 7 years ago is interesting to me. If it's interesting to you too, then great, but relying on others to do your work for you will get you just what you deserve. I neither look for easy answers nor do I provide them. All that OP has provided thus far is another interesting data point. There are plenty more out there for those whose curiosity inclines them to seek.
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Wow, a little disappointed to see a paranoid jump on me for one of very few posts I have ever left here. It's a free country (for now) but while it is I believe I'm still entitled to share my opinions as much as the next person here, which is all I did. Catholic bashing? Really? You can't know much about the RCC if you view all present and former adherents as one and the same, but then some folks jump to conclusions as readily as they adopt the frown over a smile. The immediate distrust of a self-proclaimed RC simply because I freely admit to my background demonstrates nothing but an ignorance of contemporary culture, much less sincere understanding of the modern condition of religious organizations like the RCC. Fine, as I said in my previous post, do your own research then, I've been a student of ancient history for likely longer than this forum has been around and have little need to persuade anyone here of my opinions. If you haven't learned how to use tools like Google effectively so you can separate the wheat from chaff, then I suppose that's the price of ignorance. I just hoped that OP had more interesting insights to share than what he finally came back with after several days of recovering from his trip, that's all. The Jesuit Order is the scientific community among the RCC insiders and that is part of what caught my attention. The consistency of their findings with other (again, alleged) scientific data from the SPT is a dot connection, nothing more.

I thought some might appreciate learning (independently) about other rather interesting info on the net that comes with a Vatican wrapper of intrigue. Deception? I can't imagine anyone making the effort from what I read on threads here. I hope everyone can recognize the obvious signal-to-noise ratio of this forum like many others. Be discerning is always good advice in any context, but be just as aware of people trying to exalt a subject into a scientific discipline when it is far from anything resembling that. The whole subject of an inhabited 'Nemesis' and planets that cross our ecliptic plane is based on many and varied sources of compelling historical myth and record, but trying to charade it as a noble science without benefit of any of the tools of science to support it is pure folly and ultimately a self-deception of its own.

It's fascinating stuff, with lots of intersecting lines and maybe eventually we discover that it's based on cosmological truth, but discussion doesn't make it so. We're all in this thing together and we'll all discover together among like-minded souls. I plainly distrust the RCC, so a story about an insider that spills info and documented to a reporter some 7 years ago is interesting to me. If it's interesting to you too, then great, but relying on others to do your work for you will get you just what you deserve. I neither look for easy answers nor do I provide them. All that OP has provided thus far is another interesting data point. There are plenty more out there for those whose curiosity inclines them to seek.
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I responded to your post, but I fail to see how Im either paranoid or how im jumping on you. I thought I made it clear I agree with what you wrote to an extent. No idea where this came from.
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OP, I hope you have more time this weekend to answer my questions, as I see you are too busy to do that now.


Your update didn't give me anything useful to get conclusions from. What you did is share your opinion on the subject. I need to know what is happening with the scheduled flights, if there is a return date set up or who else important you might get travel flights set up for and when, if any.

If you take your time and give me those latest details, I will in return give you your answer to what is really going on. I am more aware of what will happen in the near future then you might think (trust me, you have no idea of what I know).

And btw... your conclusions are way off to say the least (laughable to me), and if you meant ICE -> one of the GLP members, then yeah, your source of info is way off lol


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Yes, I gave my opinion. Remember, i didnt come here to get info out... i came here giving some out in the hopes of getting more back.

There are still no return dates set up.

The friends of the church mentioned earlier are indeed taking their families(although some are going alone or made separate arrangements to the Baltimore MD and/or Columbus Ohio area.... keep in mind thats about 26 families from all over the country, each going to one of those two places... I have no idea why. I find it highly odd that theyd all go to one of two places if not going to Rome. Columbus especially is rather benign... and before someone says Wright Patterson for any reason... they could easily fly into Dayton cheaper.


They may be laughable, but i have no idea who you are and you never spoke to me before, i dont know you. Why dont you tell what you know?
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So in conclusion, we have all Archbishops going to Rome at once, we have "friends of the church" going to Rome, clergy with swiss guards and many diplomatic visa travelers with them going from Vatican to the USA, we also have other "friends of the church" going from all over the US to OH and MD.....and all of them in early October?..... interesting!


what i can tell you is this,

forget about anything concerning asteroids/comets and prophecies

this has NOTHING to do with that nonsense, i can guarantee you that... and no this is not about the end of the world




now, since you said this has not happened before on that scale, then there are three conclusions i can get from what you said so far

one is that this is the usual information transfer but of a higher priority

second... i cant give you clues of what it might be, but you shouldn't worry if that is it

the last possible conclusion form all of this is actually a bad one, this is highly unlikely, but i cant take it out of the equation, because of its timing... and if this is it, then yeah, you and all of us should seriously worry... (i dont think this is the one though... im actually 95% sure its not)



i sill cant get a solid conclusion from all of this because you didnt answer the second part of the question about the cancelled flights (who - clergy or "friends", where - from US to Rome? ) and if any of the Oct. flights get a return ticket, but i guess we need more time to know that


so yeah, just keep us updated and i will let you know if this is serious or not

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Sorry OP, those comments were not directed to you specifically and I appreciate your posts. Someone immediately 'warned' the thread that I may be out to deceive with my post, because I was RC and used references to a "Jesuit Insider" and the like. Also glad to see that we can correct ourselves and no longer refer to you as "he" :-)
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...this info you are providing is more important then you think...






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explain please
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just the travel appointments are nothing unusual, but the fact that this many different ones for one date and sudden call up of Archbishops does not happen often and means its very important
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...this info you are providing is more important then you think...






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explain please
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just the travel appointments are nothing unusual, but the fact that this many different ones for one date and sudden call up of Archbishops does not happen often and means its very important
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plus other things...

hiding
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OP, I hope you have more time this weekend to answer my questions, as I see you are too busy to do that now.


Your update didn't give me anything useful to get conclusions from. What you did is share your opinion on the subject. I need to know what is happening with the scheduled flights, if there is a return date set up or who else important you might get travel flights set up for and when, if any.

If you take your time and give me those latest details, I will in return give you your answer to what is really going on. I am more aware of what will happen in the near future then you might think (trust me, you have no idea of what I know).

And btw... your conclusions are way off to say the least (laughable to me), and if you meant ICE -> one of the GLP members, then yeah, your source of info is way off lol


...this info you are providing is more important then you think...



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Yes, I gave my opinion. Remember, i didnt come here to get info out... i came here giving some out in the hopes of getting more back.

There are still no return dates set up.

The friends of the church mentioned earlier are indeed taking their families(although some are going alone or made separate arrangements to the Baltimore MD and/or Columbus Ohio area.... keep in mind thats about 26 families from all over the country, each going to one of those two places... I have no idea why. I find it highly odd that theyd all go to one of two places if not going to Rome. Columbus especially is rather benign... and before someone says Wright Patterson for any reason... they could easily fly into Dayton cheaper.


They may be laughable, but i have no idea who you are and you never spoke to me before, i dont know you. Why dont you tell what you know?
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Colombus, Oh and not Cin, Oh?

big clue

Baltimore, MD would attract fewer eyes indeed
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"Colombus, Oh and not Cin, Oh?

big clue

Baltimore, MD would attract fewer eyes indeed"

And the funny thing is, Columbus and Baltimore are not that far apart. This part is puzzling.
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Columbus and Baltimore are practically parallel to each other. Just over 400 miles away, it is almost a straight ride on I-70. West Virginia lies equidistant between them.
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thank you for the info OP
sorry that no one has offered up any for you
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I was inadvertantly directed to this website and could not help but get caught up in reading the discussion. Although I'm shocked at the disgusting comments and attacks on the Roman Catholic Church, I can't say that it surprises me anymore. I'm getting used to hearing it. What I find more shocking, though is that those making the worst attacks seem to have little insight into their own evident depravity, as it shows very clearly to a stranger who happens to come by the conversation by chance. I think we human beings need to do a lot more inner soul searching and a lot less of trying to pluck the splinter out of the other person's eye. While the abuse crisis in the Church is indefensible, so is the abuse crisis in society, which is equally as wicked. We all belong to this depraved culture, but that doesn't make us all equally guilty. The same is true for priests. Since when in America are all members of a group guilty of the crimes of some or one of its adherents? This is un-American thinking. The real truth is that people attack the Church because they reject what the Church teaches on morality, for the simple reason that they refuse to live by the moral code the Church has plainly taught for 2000 years. But their conscience incites them and so they hate that voice that calls them back to sanctity. That is the truth. There is abuse in politics, education, families, Christian, protestant, atheistic organization...you name it, a small percentage of these abuse children. But the Church is the target of hatred and this sin of a few used as an excuse to attack the whole Church. God Himself will vindicate His Bride, which is the Church. Look into your hearts and see the root of your hatred is your own sin, which the Church convicts you of.
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I was inadvertantly directed to this website and could not help but get caught up in reading the discussion. Although I'm shocked at the disgusting comments and attacks on the Roman Catholic Church, I can't say that it surprises me anymore. I'm getting used to hearing it. What I find more shocking, though is that those making the worst attacks seem to have little insight into their own evident depravity, as it shows very clearly to a stranger who happens to come by the conversation by chance. I think we human beings need to do a lot more inner soul searching and a lot less of trying to pluck the splinter out of the other person's eye. While the abuse crisis in the Church is indefensible, so is the abuse crisis in society, which is equally as wicked. We all belong to this depraved culture, but that doesn't make us all equally guilty. The same is true for priests. Since when in America are all members of a group guilty of the crimes of some or one of its adherents? This is un-American thinking. The real truth is that people attack the Church because they reject what the Church teaches on morality, for the simple reason that they refuse to live by the moral code the Church has plainly taught for 2000 years. But their conscience incites them and so they hate that voice that calls them back to sanctity. That is the truth. There is abuse in politics, education, families, Christian, protestant, atheistic organization...you name it, a small percentage of these abuse children. But the Church is the target of hatred and this sin of a few used as an excuse to attack the whole Church. God Himself will vindicate His Bride, which is the Church. Look into your hearts and see the root of your hatred is your own sin, which the Church convicts you of.
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The Roman Catholic Church is the Antichrist of Bible prophecy. Thought hate is a detastable thing, truth must be spread and shared, especially truth about the Papacy.

Perhaps those 50,000,000+ innocent 'heretics' which were martyred in medieval times by the authority of the Roman Catholic Church would give someone a reason to be disgusted with a completely corrupt system which is the Judas of Bible Prophecy; professing to be one of them until the very end.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Re: -=Vatican Recalling all Archbishops due to Elenin=-
OP, I agree with your assessment that it is because of Elenin. Sadly, there is more dis/mis-info about Elenin than actual truth and as a result we may be pressed to have thoughts of doubt and disbelief.

I am curious about what you mentioned about the families of the american cardinals being sent to two locations... which page of this thread did you originally reveal this information?
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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They are to be in Rome by Oct. 10, through the 24. They indicated that if they arrive after the 17th, they are not to come and stay with their clergy.
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what are the earliest dates of arrival to Rome?
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