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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1453820 Denmark 07/04/2011 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big Bang theory teaches that the universe and all the gazillions stars and matter created itself out of absolutely nothing. Do people really believe this? How can everything create itself out of nothing. If you could produce an apple out of absolutely nothing without any help at all I would gladly accept this theory. The Big Bang theory is one of the dumbest theories I've ever seen. Atheists really believe that the universe somehow created itself out of absolutely nothing, out of emptiness. But even atheists admit that time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same moment. Without space, where are you going to put matter? Without time, WHEN are you going to put matter? Time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same time. The Big Bang theory does not explain this. Atheists just believe it happened. They BELIEVE, it's a religion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1217419 United States 07/04/2011 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would the big bang and God be mutually exclusive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1240601From a philosophical point of view God could not have existed before the big bang. Not true if there are multiple universes. Perhaps some of which were not created in an emanation, and are eternal. |
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alpha>me<omega User ID: 1015009 United States 07/04/2011 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would the big bang and God be mutually exclusive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1240601From a philosophical point of view God could not have existed before the big bang. sure he could Explain your position using logic. Surely if there is a god, logic flies out the window. Why do think we cant see him or even understand it? Logic is for us little peabrains. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1240601 United States 07/04/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would the big bang and God be mutually exclusive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1240601From a philosophical point of view God could not have existed before the big bang. sure he could Explain your position using logic. Well, if one subscribes to the many worlds interpretation of quantum physics, it could be the case that God resides outside of the 4 dimensional spacetime that gave rise to this iteration of reality. Or it could be the case that God resides outside of the 6 dimensional fractal of all possibilities of existence eminating from the initial conditions of the big bang. Or it could be the case that God resides outside of the 10 dimensional superfractal of all possibilities for this universe, plus any other universes that arose with different laws of physics. You can't really logic God though, seeing as the realm of metaphysics can't really give a real answer. I'm not going to pretend to KNOW what the truth is, just that there is a truth. |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 07/04/2011 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Linear thinking is a grand mistake. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447470 United States 07/04/2011 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Linear thinking is a grand mistake. Quoting: antikytheraI do not know if you agreed or disagreed with my position or not, but this statement is one of the few true assertions that should be promulgated to the masses. Lets think, what cause the big bang? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1308220 United States 07/04/2011 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big Bang theory teaches that the universe and all the gazillions stars and matter created itself out of absolutely nothing. Do people really believe this? How can everything create itself out of nothing. If you could produce an apple out of absolutely nothing without any help at all I would gladly accept this theory. Quoting: VinyardThe Big Bang theory is one of the dumbest theories I've ever seen. Atheists really believe that the universe somehow created itself out of absolutely nothing, out of emptiness. But even atheists admit that time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same moment. Without space, where are you going to put matter? Without time, WHEN are you going to put matter? Time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same time. The Big Bang theory does not explain this. Atheists just believe it happened. They BELIEVE, it's a religion. The matter was transformed from the cooling of the near infinite energy after the big bang. It was not at the same moment, hence all of the evil scientists at colliders around the world. Get your story straight and wake up! |
Children of the Atom User ID: 1386949 United States 07/04/2011 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big Bang theory teaches that the universe and all the gazillions stars and matter created itself out of absolutely nothing. Do people really believe this? How can everything create itself out of nothing. If you could produce an apple out of absolutely nothing without any help at all I would gladly accept this theory. Quoting: VinyardThe Big Bang theory is one of the dumbest theories I've ever seen. Atheists really believe that the universe somehow created itself out of absolutely nothing, out of emptiness. But even atheists admit that time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same moment. Without space, where are you going to put matter? Without time, WHEN are you going to put matter? Time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same time. The Big Bang theory does not explain this. Atheists just believe it happened. They BELIEVE, it's a religion. Preach my brother! The moderns are the most radical of all the Gaea worshiping cults. |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 07/04/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Linear thinking is a grand mistake. Quoting: antikytheraI do not know if you agreed or disagreed with my position or not, but this statement is one of the few true assertions that should be promulgated to the masses. Lets think, what cause the big bang? And what would that accomplish? Nothing. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313112 United States 07/04/2011 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are our own big bang, when cern wipes us out we will be slapped into another dimension and start over. Then that civilization will move forward and end up like we are. The "world" and reality in general only goes up until 2011-2012ish and then resets. Its up to us and others to break the chain, thats the grand scheme and the jenga piece no one wants to pull. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands 07/04/2011 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watcha mean, fake? Wrong perhaps, but not fake. It is all based on solid observations and reasoning. Good science. Why would the big bang and God be mutually exclusive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1240601Sure, why not? Big Bang theory teaches that the universe and all the gazillions stars and matter created itself out of absolutely nothing. Quoting: VinyardDid some creationist tell you that? Because it is NOT TRUE. The current model of cosmology says that 13.75 ± 0.11 billion years ago the whole universe was the size of a citrus fruit and incredibly hot and dense. What happened before that point in time, during the Planck epoch, is unknown and the subject of much speculation. Scientists, real scientists, not the evil monsters confabulated by creationists, are perfectly ok with saying We don't know that (yet) if there is insufficient data. Actually it is paramount to only base conclusions on hard facts and solid reasoning. Do people really believe this? Quoting: VinyardApparently creationists believe that scientists believe that. Or maybe they are lying again. Why fight the facts if you can concoct a nice flammable strawman? How can everything create itself out of nothing. Quoting: VinyardMaybe everything is nothing? The energy content of the universe (positive energy + negative energy) seems to be pretty close to zero. Maybe the quantum foam just burped. All speculation for now. The Big Bang theory is one of the dumbest theories I've ever seen. Quoting: VinyardHave you ever seen an actual scientific theory? Not some creationist strawman concoction? Atheists really believe that the universe somehow created itself out of absolutely nothing, out of emptiness. Quoting: VinyardNo. Some people do. Atheists in general speculate and debate these things just as much as the next knowledgeable person. The not so knowledgeable atheists don't really care. Whether or not the origin of the universe is ever determined has nothing to do with atheism as such. Atheism is determined by not believing in gods. Requiring atheists to explain the origin of the universe is a false dichotomy and a shifting of the burden of proof. It is up to those that claim that there are gods, or a god, to provide evidence for their claim. But even atheists Quoting: Vinyardyou mean scientists admit that time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same moment. Without space, where are you going to put matter? Without time, WHEN are you going to put matter? Time, space and matter must have been created at the exact same time. The Big Bang theory does not explain this. Quoting: VinyardWell, du'h. Not yet, anyway. Atheists Quoting: VinyardYou mean scientists just believe it happened. Quoting: VinyardNo, they presume it happened. It is the best currently available explanation for how the universe could look like it does. Since this presumption in no way shape or form has any practical implications whatsoever it is not a believe. People act on their believes. They BELIEVE, it's a religion. Quoting: VinyardBelieve is for believers. Scientists just rather KNOW stuff. Atheists just don't believe, and many don't care how this place came about. They just want to enjoy its existence. Last Edited by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on 04/24/2012 02:32 PM Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447470 United States 07/04/2011 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Linear thinking is a grand mistake. Quoting: antikytheraI do not know if you agreed or disagreed with my position or not, but this statement is one of the few true assertions that should be promulgated to the masses. Lets think, what cause the big bang? And what would that accomplish? Nothing. hey it may lead to no where because the one side can't disprove God in the first place. I have nothing to lose from that arguement as to oppose a none believer and his so call basis arguements claiming there is no God. Lets do this right here right now, what cause the big bang go bang! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447470 United States 07/04/2011 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how did God came into be? Any ideas anyone? He just was there always? God sounds like the big bang, he was created out of nothing, ohhh the irony!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330148read this Ecclesiastes 8:17 then I saw all that God has done. No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all his efforts to search it out, man cannot discover its meaning. Even if a wise man claims he knows, he cannot really comprehend it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330148 United States 07/04/2011 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how did God came into be? Any ideas anyone? He just was there always? God sounds like the big bang, he was created out of nothing, ohhh the irony!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330148read this Ecclesiastes 8:17 then I saw all that God has done. No one can comprehend what goes on under the sun. Despite all his efforts to search it out, man cannot discover its meaning. Even if a wise man claims he knows, he cannot really comprehend it. Thats no good to anyone, that could mean, we have no idea that he is real. So we just say we cant comprehend him. |