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What Did Mexicans Speak Before Spaniards Conquered Their Asses?

 
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What Did Mexicans Speak Before Spaniards Conquered Their Asses?
Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
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Spaniards aren't all white.

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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spain is in Europe though.
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spain is in Europe though.
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And thats where the spanish language came from.
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good point lol
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spain is in Europe though.
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Then in that case, it is probably the same reason Native Americans speak English and practice Christianity.
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spaniards are white Europeans. Natives thought the Spanish conquistadors were Gods because of their white skin.

Spanish is a white European language

The same can be said for Portuguese

It's just the average Mestizo Hispanic is very ignorant of their own Indian heritage and the white Spanish European heritage that conquered them hundreds of years ago. And they probably to a degree suffer from Stockholm Syndrome
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spaniards are white Europeans. Natives thought the Spanish conquistadors were Gods because of their white skin.

Spanish is a white European language

The same can be said for Portuguese

It's just the average Mestizo Hispanic is very ignorant of their own Indian heritage and the white Spanish European heritage that conquered them hundreds of years ago. And they probably to a degree suffer from Stockholm Syndrome
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They are ignorant to both? That value of trade goods. This thread should be locked lol.
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spain is in Europe though.
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Then in that case, it is probably the same reason Native Americans speak English and practice Christianity.
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This is about Mexicans and not Native Americans. Native Americans speak english and dont bitch about it.

What did Mexicans speak BEFORE they were conquered by the Spaniards and why are they so attached to spanish since its not even their native language??? THAT is the point of this thread. The illegal aliens in Texas hate english because they feel its the language of white European invaders (never mind the fact that they got their asses kicked in a war and lost it fair and square so its no longer theirs) yet they cling to the spanish language and love it but its not their native language either. Why are they so hypocritical?
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There was no such thing as a Mexican when the Spaniards came.
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Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
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They spoke Mayan.
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There was no such thing as a Mexican when the Spaniards came.
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Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
 Quoting: SpeakNow 1451587


They spoke Mayan.
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So why arent they still speaking it? Why dont they shurg off spanish (since its not their native language) like they do english and go back to speaking their native language? If they arent willing to do that then whats the issue with learning enlgish here in the states since both spanish and english are the language of people who invaded and conquered them?
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There was no such thing as a Mexican when the Spaniards came.
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^This^
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But the people who lived in mexico when the spaniards showed up were NOT spaniards and they didnt speak spanish until AFTER the spaniards showed up. Thats my point. Why is this so hard?
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spaniards are white Europeans. Natives thought the Spanish conquistadors were Gods because of their white skin.

Spanish is a white European language

The same can be said for Portuguese

It's just the average Mestizo Hispanic is very ignorant of their own Indian heritage and the white Spanish European heritage that conquered them hundreds of years ago. And they probably to a degree suffer from Stockholm Syndrome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439552


They are ignorant to both? That value of trade goods. This thread should be locked lol.
 Quoting: bbristowe


Huh? What?

1) Spain is a EUROPEAN country
2) Spanish [traditional 'native' Spanish] are white Caucasian Europeans
3) The Spanish invaded and conquered Mexico and other parts of the Americas. They enforced their language and culture on the 'Indian' natives, and killed many of them. They did a lousy job of running their colonies and this shows right down to this very day.
4) The 'natives' of Mexico and elsewhere in Central and South America had never seen a 'white' person [European] before, and thought they were Gods and capitulated.
5) MANY [not all] Mestizo Indian mixed race Hispanics are ignorant of their 'native' heritage and suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome regarding all things 'Spanish', including the language.
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Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
 Quoting: SpeakNow 1451587


They spoke Mayan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1390682


So why arent they still speaking it? Why dont they shurg off spanish (since its not their native language) like they do english and go back to speaking their native language? If they arent willing to do that then whats the issue with learning enlgish here in the states since both spanish and english are the language of people who invaded and conquered them?
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um dude you're an American speaking ENGLISH from ENGLAND, get it? what makes you so freaking special?
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They're confused ignorant illiterates. They barely speak Spanish.

I suppose they spoke some native tongue. The Aztecs and the other indians have been enemies of our indians for thousands of years. They'd have wars with the Navajo, wars with the Hopi, and the Apache. And now these ass backwards freeloading fuckers say this is "their" land. it wasn't theirs, it was Indian territory that Spain occupied. It doesn't mean that after Spain left what ever belonged to Spain now belongs tot hem because they speak Spanish. Who thinks this fucking stupid? Or Eh-stupid? I mean, hello, Cinco de ?Mayo, that means the Spanish Armada went bye bye, but the land all the way to Canada doesn't belong to and never DID belong to any native in the region now Mexico. it's just fantasy lying bullshit.
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Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
 Quoting: SpeakNow 1451587


They spoke Mayan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1390682


So why arent they still speaking it? Why dont they shurg off spanish (since its not their native language) like they do english and go back to speaking their native language? If they arent willing to do that then whats the issue with learning enlgish here in the states since both spanish and english are the language of people who invaded and conquered them?
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um dude you're an American speaking ENGLISH from ENGLAND, get it? what makes you so freaking special?
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Most Americans even those of non-English descent [the majority; the largest white ethnic groups in America are German and Irish] have no problem with English, it's association with England and speaking it as their 'native' language.

SOME 'Hispanics' cling obsessively to Spanish, and thing English is for 'whites' or 'Anglos'. OP finds this attitude ironic. It is ironic.
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They're confused ignorant illiterates. They barely speak Spanish.

I suppose they spoke some native tongue. The Aztecs and the other indians have been enemies of our indians for thousands of years. They'd have wars with the Navajo, wars with the Hopi, and the Apache. And now these ass backwards freeloading fuckers say this is "their" land. it wasn't theirs, it was Indian territory that Spain occupied. It doesn't mean that after Spain left what ever belonged to Spain now belongs tot hem because they speak Spanish. Who thinks this fucking stupid? Or Eh-stupid? I mean, hello, Cinco de ?Mayo, that means the Spanish Armada went bye bye, but the land all the way to Canada doesn't belong to and never DID belong to any native in the region now Mexico. it's just fantasy lying bullshit.
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There were MANY 'Indian' dialects. And Native so-called Indians were tribal and constantly warring with other tribes. MOST 'Indians' by far weren't Aztec and the Aztecs oppressed and killed their ancestors, but because Aztecs are 'cool' and hip, they all pretend they're Aztec.

BTW: I'm part Spanish [my maternal grandfather] and part 'native' Indian.
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They spoke Mayan.
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And Nahuatl (Aztec), Chichimeca, Totonaca, Huasteca, plus several dozen other Native American languages.

The Aztec word for themselves in Nahuatl is "Mexica" ("meh-shee-ka") and that is where the word Mexico came from.

Most Mexicans have a lot more Native American ancestry than they do European Spanish.

The conquistadores brought the language of Castille, Spain with them, which evolved into Latin American Spanish.

Spain itself has multiple regional languages and dialects, although Castillian is the standard today.

Standard Mexican Spanish is very different from Standard Castillian European Spanish, although they are mutually intelligeable.

"Good" literate Mexican Spanish is intelligeable throughout Latin America.

The slang Mexican Spanish spoken by most illiterate Mexicans one encounters in the USA is not intelligeable anywhere else, by anyone else.

The typical Mexican in the USA does not speak "Spanish" by any stretch of the imagination.

What they speak bears exactly the same relationship to Spanish as Haitian Creole ("Kweol") does to Standard French.
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spaniards are white Europeans. Natives thought the Spanish conquistadors were Gods because of their white skin.

Spanish is a white European language

The same can be said for Portuguese

It's just the average Mestizo Hispanic is very ignorant of their own Indian heritage and the white Spanish European heritage that conquered them hundreds of years ago. And they probably to a degree suffer from Stockholm Syndrome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439552



Not to mention it is a very stratified society down there, and the darker the skin color the more you are discriminated against. All of the "leaders" in Mexican government are lighter skinned.

The above could explain in part why the average Jose down there is so ignorant of the Amerindian portion of his heritage.
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They're confused ignorant illiterates. They barely speak Spanish.

I suppose they spoke some native tongue. The Aztecs and the other indians have been enemies of our indians for thousands of years. They'd have wars with the Navajo, wars with the Hopi, and the Apache. And now these ass backwards freeloading fuckers say this is "their" land. it wasn't theirs, it was Indian territory that Spain occupied. It doesn't mean that after Spain left what ever belonged to Spain now belongs tot hem because they speak Spanish. Who thinks this fucking stupid? Or Eh-stupid? I mean, hello, Cinco de ?Mayo, that means the Spanish Armada went bye bye, but the land all the way to Canada doesn't belong to and never DID belong to any native in the region now Mexico. it's just fantasy lying bullshit.
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There were MANY 'Indian' dialects. And Native so-called Indians were tribal and constantly warring with other tribes. MOST 'Indians' by far weren't Aztec and the Aztecs oppressed and killed their ancestors, but because Aztecs are 'cool' and hip, they all pretend they're Aztec.

BTW: I'm part Spanish [my maternal grandfather] and part 'native' Indian.
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Living in a "border" city, we see a lot of those Aztec shirts, etc. worn by Mexicans. I suspect that it was made "cool" and "hip" because of the AZLAN/Reconquista crap (prep for upcoming war?).
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they spoke mayan. they speak spanish now because if you look back in history. the spanish were fuckin pigs.... they literally wiped the mayans out!!! raped and pillaged with the best of em
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thats a triky question :)
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Living in a "border" city, we see a lot of those Aztec shirts, etc. worn by Mexicans. I suspect that it was made "cool" and "hip" because of the AZLAN/Reconquista crap (prep for upcoming war?).
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Thing is... the ancestors of the border dwellers were mostly Chichimeca, who lived in the most primitive sort of conditions sort of like the Apaches of SW USA -- and who were generally exploited and enslaved by the Aztecs.
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Anybody? And why are they so attached to spanish (since its not their native language) yet they hate english so much. I know people claim they hate the "white man" aka "European invaders" and thats why they hate the english language so much but Spaniards are also white men from Europe so what the hell gives?
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what did the english speak before the anglo saxons conquered their asses?
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most Mexicans don't know who they really are or what their real culture is about

they are the victims of multiculturalism

the Spaniards destroyed everything about them that made them who they use to be

today are a bunch of slaves speaking the language of their conquerers

so sad
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Spaniards aren't all white.
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Spaniards are white Europeans. Natives thought the Spanish conquistadors were Gods because of their white skin.

Spanish is a white European language

The same can be said for Portuguese

It's just the average Mestizo Hispanic is very ignorant of their own Indian heritage and the white Spanish European heritage that conquered them hundreds of years ago. And they probably to a degree suffer from Stockholm Syndrome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439552


They are ignorant to both? That value of trade goods. This thread should be locked lol.
 Quoting: bbristowe


Huh? What?

1) Spain is a EUROPEAN country
2) Spanish [traditional 'native' Spanish] are white Caucasian Europeans
3) The Spanish invaded and conquered Mexico and other parts of the Americas. They enforced their language and culture on the 'Indian' natives, and killed many of them. They did a lousy job of running their colonies and this shows right down to this very day.
4) The 'natives' of Mexico and elsewhere in Central and South America had never seen a 'white' person [European] before, and thought they were Gods and capitulated.
5) MANY [not all] Mestizo Indian mixed race Hispanics are ignorant of their 'native' heritage and suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome regarding all things 'Spanish', including the language.
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1) depends on your point of view. Define what makes an european.
2)Define Native Spanish. do you incude Moors, romans , vandals, celtiberians etal as caucasians?
3)spain was in the bussiness of plunder, commerce and exporting a surplus of warlords, so yes administration wasn't a priority.
4)Total nonsense.
5)Spanish in Mexico is just as english is in India or Nigeria. It gives a common nonpartisan language to a multilingual nation.
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most Mexicans don't know who they really are or what their real culture is about

they are the victims of multiculturalism

the Spaniards destroyed everything about them that made them who they use to be

today are a bunch of slaves speaking the language of their conquerers

so sad
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TRUE

If anything, Spanish is the slave language, not English.
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they spoke mayan. they speak spanish now because if you look back in history. the spanish were fuckin pigs.... they literally wiped the mayans out!!! raped and pillaged with the best of em
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That's what conquerors do. The Aztecs did it. But that was okay, huh? To throw people off a temple onto a blade that cut them in half at the bottom? Cut their beating heart out? They weren't "pigs" though? Really? Mexico is rife with these same bloodthirsty savages today. they didn't do it to conquer they did it because they were evil. Conquest is to expand territory, and increase wealth. It's careless, uncaring. It's not wantonly psychotic like the Aztec culture was for 3000 years. Every other tribe was scared shitless of the Hannibal Lector cult of sickos. They killed them, "sacrificed" them because the evil priests whacked off on the mass murder. Cortez came and could smell blood for 30 MILES... Disgusting creatures. Do not hold yourself to some higher standard.

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