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Carbon Tax, Global 'Warming' and Smart Grids - welcome to the New International Economic Order | |
| nexuseditor Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1451509  Australia07/05/2011 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Panther User ID: 1459010 Australia07/07/2011 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So obviously NexEd, we haven't got a hope of ever getting 'free' energy? Is this why these patents don't get past 'national security'? It seems obvious to me that the governments do not have any plans of moving toward free energy ever. This renewable energy scheme certainly won't save a consumer any money down the track. Maybe some may benefit in the short term with their solar power credits, but I can see them slowly being phased out in time by reducing the buyback scheme to where it becomes of little value. At least now they can offset the cost of their solar system, but what of the future? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1205298 United States07/07/2011 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brilliant!  |
| nexuseditor (OP) User ID: 1451509 Australia07/08/2011 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So obviously NexEd, we haven't got a hope of ever getting 'free' energy? Is this why these patents don't get past 'national security'? Quoting: Panther 1459010It seems obvious to me that the governments do not have any plans of moving toward free energy ever. This renewable energy scheme certainly won't save a consumer any money down the track. Maybe some may benefit in the short term with their solar power credits, but I can see them slowly being phased out in time by reducing the buyback scheme to where it becomes of little value. At least now they can offset the cost of their solar system, but what of the future? If this agenda goes ahead, then you will likely see the following: (not necessarily in this order) - a crash of the financial system - the introduction of a new TYPE of currency - based on energy not tangible assets like gold, silver etc - the emergence of a global energy SMART grid, controlled by artificial intelligence, which talks to and supplies energy to every appliance and gadget you have, as needed - an integrated global biometric ID system - once the smart grid is in place, all petro/oil/gas and nuclear fuels will be phased out - to be replaced by any one of the numerous suppressed and clean 'free energy' technologies they want. ONLY at this point will this technology emerge, because at this point - they have total centralised control of its use. It is of course both an environmental and social utopia, with no pollution, no wars, global central govt, no cash (meaning no cash-driven crime), no private ownership of anything, and only two classes-the super elite and the rest. It is also the ultimate totalitarian big-brother technocracy, run by artificial intelligence, and controlled by whoever thought it up all those years ago. My guess is, that unless we accept this voluntarily, as some countries will, we will be put in positions where there is 'no choice', ie manufactured crises. I also believe that the biggest steps towards this goal, will be made under the cover of 'natural' disasters, as well as the ever-present, manipulated and manufactured wars and financial disasters. Last Edited by I LOVE PENIS on 07/08/2011 01:29 AM |
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| Matrix User ID: 1166681 Australia07/08/2011 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Petro dollar/carbon dollar. Time taken to build the world's economy using carbon based fuels is 50+ years, time allocated to change the world's economy to mainly use alternate energy sources less then 30. Industrial (carbon based)revolution-> industrial (carbon free) revolution. Good luck trying to find the money to pay the skyrocketing power bills plus coming up with the extra money to buy solar panels which will take years to pay for themselves. |
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| Panther User ID: 1459010 Australia07/08/2011 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recall seeing an article regarding some large power consortium in (I think) Florida or California that has applied for the rights to control solar power. Now if I remember correctly, a lady in the USA has claimed to own the sun through lodging some legal document. (They are all idiots) But, does the large power company now have to buy a licence from her to distribute 'her' solar power? Where does it all end? They are probably likely to be granted their request as this would fit the long term plan and maintain control of the energy grid whether free or not. Next thing Ergon, Energex or the like will try it on here in Oz as they most likely can see that their grip on coal fired or hydro power is weakening. (Also their fat profits) I hope Tesla is reincarnated very soon, likely it will be too late for me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1437676  United Kingdom07/08/2011 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And then we have the U.N. telling us exaxtly how much energy that we need to live on that works out to be just under 84 kilo-watt-hours per day, which is not a lot when you consider driving/heat/cooking etc. World Economic and Social Survey 2011: The Great Green Technological Transformation From: Chapter 1 Quoting: [link to www.un.org] Recently, a number of studies have put increasing emphasis on the fourth argument above for limiting growth in developed countries. To make their case, many of them presented evidence from cross-country data showing that the quality of life does not improve much beyond a certain level of per capita income. For example, taking life expectancy as an objective measure of the quality of life, it can be seen that life expectancy does not increase much beyond a per capita income level of about $10,000. Similarly, as indicated in chapter III of this Survey, cross-country evidence suggests that there are no significant additional gains in human development (as measured by the human development index) beyond the energy-use level of about 110 gigajoules (GJ) (or 2 tons of oil equivalent (toe) per capita). While capping the use of energy and other resources by setting limits to growth in developed countries might have worldwide benefits, to many the prospect of “prosperity without growth” may not be very appealing. One reason for the difficulty involved entails what Jackson (2010) refers to as the “dilemma of growth”—the fact that while the current pattern of growth is unsustainable, the current structure of the economy and of society is such that an economy without growth is unstable. Acceptance and implementation of prosperity without growth will therefore require major structural transformations of economies and societies. |
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| nexuseditor (OP) User ID: 1525377 Australia09/01/2011 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | see also: Electricity as the universal basis for a new money system. What a concept! Thread: Electricity as the universal basis for a new money system. What a concept! |
| ¤ Itz A DreaM ¤ User ID: 1452841 United States09/19/2011 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great post, more definitely should take a look here.  "For someone who was never meant for this world, I must confess I'm suddenly having a hard time leaving it. Of course, they say every atom in our bodies was once part of a star. Maybe I'm not leaving... maybe I'm going home." — Vincent, Gattaca |
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| nexuseditor (OP) User ID: 1525377 Australia09/29/2011 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama: $3.4B for ‘smart’ power grid President Obama on Tuesday announced a $3.4 billion federal investment to modernize the country’s outdated power grid. The money will go to 100 projects in 49 states to add automated substations, digital transformers, electric meters in homes and other high-tech equipment to create a “smart” grid. <snip> The initiative will bring 18 million smart meters into U.S. homes and spur private investment to add an additional 22 million over the next several years, officials said. The meters, in combination with smart thermostats, will save electricity and money by helping customers control how and when they use power. “They can monitor [energy use] to the month, week, day or hour,” said Mr. Obama, who compared the effort to overhaul the grid with what it took Americans to win World War II and to put a man on the moon. <snip> [link to www.washingtontimes.com] |
