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What to Eat and How to Treat- Official SHTF Food and Medicine Thread

 
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Recently, FauxBama has signed Executive Order 13575:

Sec. 4. Mission and Function of the Council
The Council shall work across executive departments, agencies, and offices to coordinate development of policy recommendations to promote economic prosperity and quality of life in rural America, and shall coordinate my Administration's engagement with rural communities. The Council shall:

(a) make recommendations to the President, through the Director of the Domestic Policy Council and the Director of the National Economic Council, on streamlining and leveraging Federal investments in rural areas, where appropriate, to increase the impact of Federal dollars and create economic opportunities to improve the quality of life in rural America;

(b) coordinate and increase the effectiveness of Federal engagement with rural stakeholders, including agricultural organizations, small businesses, education and training institutions, health-care providers, telecommunications services providers, research and land grant institutions, law enforcement, State, local, and tribal governments, and nongovernmental organizations regarding the needs of rural America;

(c) coordinate Federal efforts directed toward the growth and development of geographic regions that encompass both urban and rural areas; and

(d) identify and facilitate rural economic opportunities associated with energy development, outdoor recreation, and other conservation related activities.

The FDA likely will soon ban all herbal medicines and supplements formulated after 1994. The FDA seems bound and determined to decide what USA citizens eat and how they treat themselves.

Our government makes very poor dietary choices for it's citizens. The FDA was only meant to keep impurities and false claims out of the market, now they choose our consumption for us.

This is also happening on a world-scale. In Europe, some places have banned herbal medicines.

Forget that a few herbal medicines are overrated to a fault. Some are very effective. In fact, most modern medicines are based on compounds found in nature. Yet the FDA is now saying nature is no good for us? This is a dangerous power they now possess, especially considering the federal governments record.
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So I suggest we put our resources together and figure out what to eat if they checkmate us. Either physically, technically, or legally. Since this kind of thing is very regional, make sure you include that information. Wild edibles, wild medicinal treatments, easily grown plants, primitive medicine and herbs. There are some herbal medicines of value that one might want to acquire and store for SHTF use, due to the possibility one will not be able to grow or acquire plants from distant regions. Keeping a few hundred viable heirloom vegetable seeds might be a great idea, especially if there's several mouths to feed.

Remember, if you think this stuff is valuable and if you think you might need to USE it one day. You needsmust PRINT a copy or two, if the grids go offline. Do not assume you will remember plant characteristics, identification, primitive techniques, or any other such information. Keep a hard copy of this stuff somewhere or it's all in vain.

Practice it too. Go for hikes in the woods and I.D. food. Eat it if you're sure. I haven't carried food on a hike in awhile because I pick-n-nibble food as I walk the entire time.

These are searchable sites with unbelievable plant usefulness data. Food and Medicinal uses
[link to www.pfaf.org]
[link to www.complete-herbal.com]

For those who have seeds and intend to garden, also for primitive skills:
[link to www.motherearthnews.com]

Wild Edibles

Missouri:
[link to www.amazon.com]

North America:
[link to www.amazon.com]

General, North America, website:
[link to wildfoodplants.com]

____________________________________________________________


Here is a short list of herbs that can be grown and are considered multi-use herbal medicines.

Cannabis (easy to grow, numerous health benefits, would possess immense trade value in Post-Apocolyptia)

Ginseng (possible to wildcraft or even farm, takes a minimum of 4 years, 6 is better)

Teas (you have your green tea, oolong, black tea, yerba mate, coca, among others. Besides a tasty beverage, teas pass along health benefits over time)

Tobacco (whatever you think of it, it can be grown and folks will really want it, trade value)

____________________________________________________________


I don't know about you, but I think of my federal government as incompetent and crooked. Such persons must not be allowed to have control over what medicines I choose. Such persons should not be allowed to decide what local farmers do with their fields and harvests. These choices should not belong to the government. I take this as a threat against my health and believe others should as well. I'm very tired of being intentionally poisoned by flouride, pesticides, Genetically Modified, Lab-Grown, and the endless other piles of filth they are passing off as food these days. This stuff is more than just health too, it can affect the mind and decision-making to eat their aspartame, MSG, High-Fructose Corn Spooge.
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Maybe we could put together here a "toolkit" of items to keep around for first aid? Besides keeping an actual first aid kit of course.

These categories

Infection Control
Alcohol, Una de Gato, Pau d'Arco

Parasites
Banisteriopsis Caapi, Black Pepper

Local Pain relief
Coca, Kava, Mint

General Pain relief
cannabis

Anti-Inflammatory
Cannabis

Blood Pressure Control

Heart Rate Control

Fever Control

Wound Dressing

Splint-Making

Menstrual complaints
cannabis

Last Edited by Calaf on 07/06/2011 07:57 PM
bransondude (OP)

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07/06/2011 07:45 PM
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Alcohol:

Here are some ideas for getting alcohol when you're on your own.

Spit Beer:
[link to www.mentalfloss.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

With some extra corn, your own spit, and a small still set-up you could get buzzed without Big Brother's involvement.
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Why live in fear????

Why believe that their paperwork will have any affect on your personal life or your families...

We have allowed huge corporations to take over small farming and that is a mistake... for the goverment can control big corps..

But if everytime someone writes a paper that puts you in fear, ignore it.

Eat what you want and medicate like you will...

As long as 'we the people' still do that, we are untouchable.

stop reacting



start ACTING!
bransondude (OP)

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what part of "let's gather information about food on our own terms" sounds fearful to you? You know what they say of the paranoid, it's not schizophrenia if someone is really out to get you.

The USA government IS a Corporation, btw, in a literal sense.

These are the same people who took away cannabis, gave us fluoride and countless other environmental poisons over the decades. These people can now order rural farmers to grow Genetically Modified crops or grow Lab Hamburger. All they need to do is just say "it will improve things" and viola, it's policy.

It's time to take back our food for ourselves.

Last Edited by Calaf on 07/06/2011 08:40 PM
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what part of "let's gather information about food on our own terms" sounds fearful to you? You know what they say of the paranoid, it's not schizophrenia if someone is really out to get you.

The USA government IS a Corporation, btw, in a literal sense.

These are the same people who took away cannabis, gave us fluoride and countless other environmental poisons over the decades. These people can now order rural farmers to grow Genetically Modified crops or grow Lab Hamburger. All they need to do is just say "it will improve things" and viola, it's policy.

It's time to take back our food for ourselves.
 Quoting: bransondude


iamwithhf
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07/07/2011 06:42 AM
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Good post OP. Some of the links I use and some are new.
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Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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If you need an alternative to aspirin, you can just make some tea with willow bark.
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These free downloads are conventional medical books, but they are written for people who have no access to conventional medicines.

[link to www.hesperian.org]

and Tom Brown has some great stuff about wild edibles and medicinal herbs as well
[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

and one of my favorites is
[link to www.amazon.com]

Don't forget that there are often free lectures at local historical societies and living history museums. It is unbelievable the skills that are free to learn at some of those places. From herbalism, to wildcrafting, soapmaking, processing flax and wool, post and beam construction, cooking over a fire, etc.

and also remember where you collect your plants is important..roadsides are not always a good choice because of the chemicals the plants are exposed to.
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Recently, FauxBama has signed Executive Order 13575:

Sec. 4. Mission and Function of the Council
The Council shall work across executive departments, agencies, and offices to coordinate development of policy recommendations to promote economic prosperity and quality of life in rural America, and shall coordinate my Administration's engagement with rural communities. The Council shall:

(a) make recommendations to the President, through the Director of the Domestic Policy Council and the Director of the National Economic Council, on streamlining and leveraging Federal investments in rural areas, where appropriate, to increase the impact of Federal dollars and create economic opportunities to improve the quality of life in rural America;

(b) coordinate and increase the effectiveness of Federal engagement with rural stakeholders, including agricultural organizations, small businesses, education and training institutions, health-care providers, telecommunications services providers, research and land grant institutions, law enforcement, State, local, and tribal governments, and nongovernmental organizations regarding the needs of rural America;

(c) coordinate Federal efforts directed toward the growth and development of geographic regions that encompass both urban and rural areas; and

(d) identify and facilitate rural economic opportunities associated with energy development, outdoor recreation, and other conservation related activities.

The FDA likely will soon ban all herbal medicines and supplements formulated after 1994. The FDA seems bound and determined to decide what USA citizens eat and how they treat themselves.

Our government makes very poor dietary choices for it's citizens. The FDA was only meant to keep impurities and false claims out of the market, now they choose our consumption for us.

This is also happening on a world-scale. In Europe, some places have banned herbal medicines.

Forget that a few herbal medicines are overrated to a fault. Some are very effective. In fact, most modern medicines are based on compounds found in nature. Yet the FDA is now saying nature is no good for us? This is a dangerous power they now possess, especially considering the federal governments record.
___________________________________________________________

So I suggest we put our resources together and figure out what to eat if they checkmate us. Either physically, technically, or legally. Since this kind of thing is very regional, make sure you include that information. Wild edibles, wild medicinal treatments, easily grown plants, primitive medicine and herbs. There are some herbal medicines of value that one might want to acquire and store for SHTF use, due to the possibility one will not be able to grow or acquire plants from distant regions. Keeping a few hundred viable heirloom vegetable seeds might be a great idea, especially if there's several mouths to feed.

Remember, if you think this stuff is valuable and if you think you might need to USE it one day. You needsmust PRINT a copy or two, if the grids go offline. Do not assume you will remember plant characteristics, identification, primitive techniques, or any other such information. Keep a hard copy of this stuff somewhere or it's all in vain.

Practice it too. Go for hikes in the woods and I.D. food. Eat it if you're sure. I haven't carried food on a hike in awhile because I pick-n-nibble food as I walk the entire time.

These are searchable sites with unbelievable plant usefulness data. Food and Medicinal uses
[link to www.pfaf.org]
[link to www.complete-herbal.com]

For those who have seeds and intend to garden, also for primitive skills:
[link to www.motherearthnews.com]

Wild Edibles

Missouri:
[link to www.amazon.com]

North America:
[link to www.amazon.com]

General, North America, website:
[link to wildfoodplants.com]

____________________________________________________________


Here is a short list of herbs that can be grown and are considered multi-use herbal medicines.

Cannabis (easy to grow, numerous health benefits, would possess immense trade value in Post-Apocolyptia)

Ginseng (possible to wildcraft or even farm, takes a minimum of 4 years, 6 is better)

Teas (you have your green tea, oolong, black tea, yerba mate, coca, among others. Besides a tasty beverage, teas pass along health benefits over time)

Tobacco (whatever you think of it, it can be grown and folks will really want it, trade value)

____________________________________________________________


I don't know about you, but I think of my federal government as incompetent and crooked. Such persons must not be allowed to have control over what medicines I choose. Such persons should not be allowed to decide what local farmers do with their fields and harvests. These choices should not belong to the government. I take this as a threat against my health and believe others should as well. I'm very tired of being intentionally poisoned by flouride, pesticides, Genetically Modified, Lab-Grown, and the endless other piles of filth they are passing off as food these days. This stuff is more than just health too, it can affect the mind and decision-making to eat their aspartame, MSG, High-Fructose Corn Spooge.
 Quoting: bransondude


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" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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If you need an alternative to aspirin, you can just make some tea with willow bark.
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I use willow branches in water along with any plant I want to get started. Willow is a natural hormone for plants.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… anonimalle

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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I use willow branches in water along with any plant I want to get started. Willow is a natural hormone for plants.
 Quoting: anonimalle


That is very good to know.
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Thanks OP.

hf
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You can purchase a DELUXE GARDEN IN A CAN here [link to www.rush.freefood2go.com] It includes a variety of Non-hybrid seeds ready to be planted at a price of only $29.95. (An entire Select High Quality Garden 23 seed packets with 20 Varieties in a can...Blue Lake Bush Beans, Detroit Beets, Copenhagen Cabbage, Hale's best Cantelope, Danvers #126 Carrots, Early Snowball Cauliflower, Country Gentleman White Corn, Marketmore 76 Cucumber, Black Beauty Eggplant, Salad Bowl Lettuce, Sweet Spanish Onion, Alaska Pea, California Bell Pepper, Champion Radish, Bloomsdale Spinach, Waltham Butternut Squash, Yellow Summer Crookneck Squash, Black Beauty Zucchini Squash, Brandywine Tomato, Rutgers Tomato.

Note: seeds store for 4 yearsat 65-70 degrees. 8 years at 55-60 degrees. 16 years at 40-55 degrees

You do not have to join the co-op to purchase these seeds. It is free to register as a customer. You will not find these seeds anywhere else for this price. If you do a Google search you will see that nitro-pack and beprepared.com sell smaller size seed banks for over $40. We sell many other food storage and preparedness items at wholesale.
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