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These damn meters are dangerous. What little information if any has been disclosed about them is illegitimate and disguised.

Apparently, I need to shut down the main power and live off of a generator and a fucking bbq grill.



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They placed on of these on my home and I saw the guy from Edison install it. So, I decided to quiz him and of course, he did not know I knew a thing or 2 about all this.

What he said is that they will monitor all homes via satellites in the future and there will be NO need for what we know as meter maids. This will be all done via satellite and mass control centers that will monitor this use. In addition, they can shut you off whenever they choose or shut down whole grids in a heart beat.

 Quoting: ApocalypseWars.com


I went looking for a video that I posted on one of my threads that describes this..guess what?

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: RTS


It is time to install solar panels and collect rainwater?
 Quoting: redlicorice


Do you want to use rainwater that has fall-out chemicals from chem. trails & possibly radiantion from Fukushima or possibly the American Nuke plants that appear to be failing. (?)

Personally I am not taking chances with rain water.

The smart meters have absolutely nothing to do with being enviromentally responsible & everything to do with invasion of our privacy, controls over us & one step closer to the NWO. As some have reported here, it seems to also give them an extra boost to their bank a/cs by jacking up the charges.

Do you support this kind of program....seriously.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


There are filters that can clean the rainwater well, including radiation.

I support any program that educates people or informs them as to their degree of resource use, actually, misuse, actually abuse.

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Another bit hacked-off our privacy.

Maybe it's because I'm OK with electrics & electronics I can think of a way to circumvent any snooping done by these meters.

It's a pain in the ass and beyond most people ... but all you really need to do is to run your outside mains power into a battery charger with however many batteries you need to give you enough power for an inverter which is able to churn out sufficient Watts to keep your home running.

The meter will only be able to transmit it is delivering an average amount which will only change by degrees and will not show any recognizable sharp spikes of things being switched on and off.

A better way would be to set your mains to charge the batteries for a certain time or to a certain limit at a regular time and then isolate the grid and run everything off what's in your batteries (marine/truck or deep-cycle batts).

Revolting technology.
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They placed on of these on my home and I saw the guy from Edison install it. So, I decided to quiz him and of course, he did not know I knew a thing or 2 about all this.

What he said is that they will monitor all homes via satellites in the future and there will be NO need for what we know as meter maids. This will be all done via satellite and mass control centers that will monitor this use. In addition, they can shut you off whenever they choose or shut down whole grids in a heart beat.

 Quoting: ApocalypseWars.com


I went looking for a video that I posted on one of my threads that describes this..guess what?

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: RTS


It is time to install solar panels and collect rainwater?
 Quoting: redlicorice


Do you want to use rainwater that has fall-out chemicals from chem. trails & possibly radiantion from Fukushima or possibly the American Nuke plants that appear to be failing. (?)

Personally I am not taking chances with rain water.

The smart meters have absolutely nothing to do with being enviromentally responsible & everything to do with invasion of our privacy, controls over us & one step closer to the NWO. As some have reported here, it seems to also give them an extra boost to their bank a/cs by jacking up the charges.

Do you support this kind of program....seriously.
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Good point. Not only that, but it is ILLEGAL to collect rainwater in some states:

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I warned you guys..

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Your original thread is no longer available. It had some really great info on it Trin. Can it be restored?
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This explains what is really going on.

[link to www.augustforecast.com]
 Quoting: Welcome to the smart grid 1007585


Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this link!! Explains CLEARLY and UNDERSTANDABLY exactly what the "Smart Grid" is, and it ain't good, folks!

The plan is not only for electricity, but for gas and water too. You will be allotted your "fair share" (whatever the hell THAT is!) and once you've used it, you'll be shut off. Also, it segues into the Agenda 21 plan, connecting the US, Canada, and Mexico; eventually the ENTIRE WORLD! How will you like to be sitting in the dark during a heat wave because some bozo in Bumphuck, Nowhere has used "too much" electricity? Some anonymous "someone" will control ALL electrical transmission, and make "adjustments" to everyone's usage moment to moment.

Obama has dedicated nearly 6 BILLION dollars (with much more slated to come) from the "Stimulus" to set up and implement this in the Northwestern states, with the rest of the Nation to follow. And as we have learned, when the Government gets involved, it is not for efficiency or to help people or businesses, it is for MORE CONTROL. You will have NO control or say-so over whether or when your appliances, AC, lights, TV, Internet/computers etc. will be turned off, OR for how long.

Additionally, the EMF's given of by the "Smart Meters" are 100 TIMES STRONGER than those given off by your cellphone, and it will be for 24 hours a day. I'm sure you are aware of the current discussions concerning the rate increases of cancers, particularly brain cancers, possibly caused by cellphones and cellphone towers.

If you don't check out another link on this thread, please PLEASE read this!! Once this has been implemented, the NWO will be permanently esconced into our lives. And there will be no going back.

bump bump bump bump bump
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You are free to collect rain water and use wind or solar to get extra electricity. I'm also not sure if they will ever cut people off if those people just pay up.
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I don't know about where you live, but around here, solar panels are EXTREMELY expensive and unreliable, and windmills for personal use are as scarce as hens' teeth. Either one is incredibly out of reach for the average home-owner, especially if they are on a fixed income such as Social Security. I do save rain water, but that is just sort of a backup since I'm already on a well. Of course, the well is run by electricity, so is subject to power outages/shut-offs.

I don't think the issue is necessarily one of paying or not paying the electric bill, although it would certainly be a lot easier for the electric company to shut off the power and would avoid any "unpleasantness" or personal confrontations with the irate customers.

Rather, the issue is that of the customer's being at the mercy of the whims of the electric company should THEY decide that one is using too much, or that they would give factories and corporations preference in distributing the electric power. And given that the higher "business" rate provides the power company with more profit for the same kilowatt hour than the "residential" rate, it's a certainty that will happen at some point.
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I was actually offered an apprentice course by British Gas to become a 'smart meter' engineer, fitting in the gas/leccy meters, & was expected to 'sell' other products & services too. Would've got my own van, mobile phone.. the works! I was very 'confused' as to WHY??? BRITISH GAS are spending literally billions over 10 years to fit every UK home with one of these 'smart' meters, a HUGE loss to the them. I did 'not' fall for their 'green' arguement. Doesn't make sense!
This put me off the job to be honest.. but anyway.. I failed the colour blind test at the end of the interview.. so that..! was the end of that! What a gas eh..

A neighbour, young 'immature' idiot he is.. but anyway.. he tried to get me to buy 'dodgy' key-meters to get 'free' leccy.. but my morals said 'nahhh.. it's allright mate..!' & then I WARNED him & his stupid mates.. they'd be caught out, cos 'they' know exactly what's going on, cos I studied the 'papers' British Gas gave me, explaining how it all worked & that they'd be caught & have to pay the cash back. Sure enough.. he came back.. & told me I was right.. ha ha..

Big Brother.. is.. ugh.. i dunno what to say anymore.. The only way I can personally contribute.. is by 'not' contributing to the 'madness' & follow my 'morals' meaning I won't 'take an immoral job!' I just.. will.. not!
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They are trying it on in Australia too. The dogs will get them if they come in my gate.
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I don't think many of you appreciate the scale of what is being discussed here.

Smart meters are part of the international smart grid.

This means that every gadget and appliance will talk to the grid, and power is only forthcoming as required.

This is part of the desired new world order. It comes with a new form of currency - one based on energy, not price.


The creation of petro-dollars, the de-coupling of the gold standard from the dollar - and the coming crash of the existing currencies - is all part of the move towards a technological, artificial intelligence-controlled nwo.


For those with an attention span:
Thread: Carbon Tax, Global 'Warming' and Smart Grids - welcome to the New International Economic Order
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Yet so many support the Marxist liars behind this crap
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Like me maybe.

What the problem can a meter give me. I have one in my car too. Normally a person comes to the house to ask how much water and electricity was used, write down the numbers.

They want a smart grid, meters are part of it. A smarter grid wastes less energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424951


Why would you not want to monitor your useage/over-useage?


Our oceans are dying, our global water situation is dire, many rivers are dead, many species of animals are verging on collapse, our air is polluted, the planet is warming, we continue to destroy our remaining old-growth forest and farm unsustainably. How stupid are we? I cannot fathom how much worse it needs to get before we stop abusing and plundering the most wonderful and necessary thing to our lives - our environment

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I warned you guys..

damned
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Right before or after you didn't warn us? so it equals no opinion for you in the end? but creates responses?

It's cool though, I'm on ALL 5 SIDES if my opinion will be heard.
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Old news and don't you fuckers fuck with me. Just sayin'..........
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My opinion is that anyone on 5 sides is worthless
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I have always said, I'm on all 5 sides
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who's claiming I said I'm on 5 sides? I never said that
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It's all about increasing corporate profits and reducing expenses. Sure, the obvious savings is in the reduction of their meter reading labor force, but the REAL savings can begin when they can more accurately regulate production/purchase of that utility. Similar to how grocery stores nowadays only keep minimal stock to reduce waste and increase profits.

Any other benefit such as data mining is merely an added bonus to the corporate douchebags.

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 Quoting: mopar28m


Thanks for this! I knew nothing about these smart meters, but I have been renting for the last several years.

I do wonder, why most people just seem to accept and not question these utility corporations, their motives, their practices, their charges. Why???

There was a thread last week regarding electric bills. Why were there only very few people actually comparing the charges on these bills and using some critical thinking?

Kwh usage. Charges for kwh usage. The mysterious fees added.

Thread: What is your average electricity bill?

Personally, the electricity for the 300 square feet I rent should NOT be one third of my total rent. Especially as I sit here in the dark, with nothing running but my pc, no hot water heater and the temperature in the room being 80 degrees.

We are ripe for the picking until everyone starts to question why???
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Another bit hacked-off our privacy.

Maybe it's because I'm OK with electrics & electronics I can think of a way to circumvent any snooping done by these meters.

It's a pain in the ass and beyond most people ... but all you really need to do is to run your outside mains power into a battery charger with however many batteries you need to give you enough power for an inverter which is able to churn out sufficient Watts to keep your home running.

The meter will only be able to transmit it is delivering an average amount which will only change by degrees and will not show any recognizable sharp spikes of things being switched on and off.

A better way would be to set your mains to charge the batteries for a certain time or to a certain limit at a regular time and then isolate the grid and run everything off what's in your batteries (marine/truck or deep-cycle batts).

Revolting technology.
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if you were to go that far, you may as well put the panels on the roof and just be done with them entirely
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How to foil a smart meter.....well this is just one way.


 Quoting: ohhappydays


Awesome and duly noted hurray for the tinfoil hat brigade! s226

However I wonder if it'll (RF signal) go back into the building which is what people don't want...
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How to foil a smart meter.....well this is just one way.


 Quoting: ohhappydays


Awesome and duly noted hurray for the tinfoil hat brigade! s226

However I wonder if it'll (RF signal) go back into the building which is what people don't want...
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I am only going to post this 1 time, so listed up.

We got a SMART METER about 16 months ago.

Afterwards, the phones had a buzz on the line that they never had before.

Afterwards, my wife suffered very bad headaches.

Afterwards, my kids were sick more often.

NOW, We did not put 2 + 2 together right away...

No, it took a youtube video (no link - cause I watched it sometime last March) to wake us up to the fact that SMART METERS are DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH.

Google "Just say NO to SMART METERS" and DYODD.

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BTW. What freaked me out were claims that those microwaves pulse 24/7 non-stop and this can cause the blood-brain barrier to weaken leading to strokes & head bleeds.

IT'S MOST LIKELY ALL PART OF THE DEPOPULATION AGENDA...

AFTER ALL, HOW YOU GOING TO KNOW IF THE NWO COMPUTERS TELL YOUR METER TO CRANK UP THE OUTPUT WHILE YOU SLEEP.

YOU ARE THE FROG. THE SMART METER IS THE BURNER.

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CHEAP ASS SOLUTION: FUCK CALLING THE POWER COMPANY, THEY WILL NOT REMOVE THE DAMN THING.... SO EITHER BUILD YOURSELF A FARADAY CAGE AROUND THE THING AND GROUND IT....


OR, TAKE A LARGE KITCHEN PAN AND STRAP IT OVER THE METER-- SO THAT WAY ALL THE RADIATION FRIES THE ELECTRONICS IN THE FUCKING THING, AND NOT YOUR HEAD.


FUCK THE NWO... AND THEIR RED LIST....


LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had one of these installed (without my permission) about a year ago. Ever since having this thing installed, each circuit in my house fluctuates from the 60hz cycle to variations from a brief period. As I was told these are tests, they have created issues with batteries especially for my laptop.

But this isn't what concerns me.

What concerns me the most is the noticeable heart murmurs I get now as I frequent the area where the meter is. I never had this problem. I am a 30 year old male, skinny for my height, and eat healthy.

And this is the tip of the iceberg. I have family members with increased noticeable health complications ever since this device was put in.

I have made it a point to stay away as much as possible not only from this device, but the microwave when it is in use, cell phones, wireless routers, and the ever elusive TSA backscatter machines that are popping up like Starbucks all over.

Lastly I have complained about the device, so that the utility co. in my area knows that there are people willing to call em out on their bluff over the safety of the devices.
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Ive had one for the last 2yrs. Get real people...it doesnt look inside your home nor can it listen. Its just logging your usage and sends it wireless back to billing.

Bad: They can disable your power from the office with no truck roll to your home for disconnect.

Good: They can also restart your service from the office
No waiting for the meterman to power you up
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they've been here for about a year, at our place.

power bill went up (same usage) shortly thereafter. not just us, either.
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Is it time yet to get off the grid...good luck with that. Little by little we loose our freedoms. All we can do is sit by and watch. Not enough of us willing to take a stance. We need a peacful Revolution in great masses.
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get on the phone and bitch, bitch, bitch......

but strap a kitch pan over your SMART METER to keep the dangerous radiation away from your family.

The pan acts like the door on your microwave oven, by trapping the radiation inside a container.

Grind some paint off the METER HOUSING so that your pan gets a good ground connection to absorb the HOT RAYS.
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I had one of these installed (without my permission) about a year ago. Ever since having this thing installed, each circuit in my house fluctuates from the 60hz cycle to variations from a brief period. As I was told these are tests, they have created issues with batteries especially for my laptop.

But this isn't what concerns me.

What concerns me the most is the noticeable heart murmurs I get now as I frequent the area where the meter is. I never had this problem. I am a 30 year old male, skinny for my height, and eat healthy.

And this is the tip of the iceberg. I have family members with increased noticeable health complications ever since this device was put in.

I have made it a point to stay away as much as possible not only from this device, but the microwave when it is in use, cell phones, wireless routers, and the ever elusive TSA backscatter machines that are popping up like Starbucks all over.

Lastly I have complained about the device, so that the utility co. in my area knows that there are people willing to call em out on their bluff over the safety of the devices.
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holy hell, i have too! i've had mine for about the same period of time! first time with these heart murmurs, for me. i was attributing it to stress, but now am wondering if these meters may play a role!
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Ive had one for the last 2yrs. Get real people...it doesnt look inside your home nor can it listen. Its just logging your usage and sends it wireless back to billing.

Bad: They can disable your power from the office with no truck roll to your home for disconnect.

Good: They can also restart your service from the office
No waiting for the meterman to power you up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359625




Get real. That's just the cover story.

The real agenda is: population control, and social control.

People who are sick and dying are much easier to control and loot than those who are healthy and think clearly.
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LOL. I thought it said "SMART METEORS".
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I had one of these installed (without my permission) about a year ago. Ever since having this thing installed, each circuit in my house fluctuates from the 60hz cycle to variations from a brief period. As I was told these are tests, they have created issues with batteries especially for my laptop.

But this isn't what concerns me.

What concerns me the most is the noticeable heart murmurs I get now as I frequent the area where the meter is. I never had this problem. I am a 30 year old male, skinny for my height, and eat healthy.

And this is the tip of the iceberg. I have family members with increased noticeable health complications ever since this device was put in.

I have made it a point to stay away as much as possible not only from this device, but the microwave when it is in use, cell phones, wireless routers, and the ever elusive TSA backscatter machines that are popping up like Starbucks all over.

Lastly I have complained about the device, so that the utility co. in my area knows that there are people willing to call em out on their bluff over the safety of the devices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450385


holy hell, i have too! i've had mine for about the same period of time! first time with these heart murmurs, for me. i was attributing it to stress, but now am wondering if these meters may play a role!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1455193


I was doing the same also. I attributed it to stress, but I had to ask myself, "I've had stress before, much worse and yet no murmur, so why now, what are the changes in my environment?"

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