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THE "CHURCH"? FIRST BEGAN ON THE SHABBAT IN THE WILDERNESS WITH MOSES

 
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THE "CHURCH"? FIRST BEGAN ON THE SHABBAT IN THE WILDERNESS WITH MOSES
First lets clear up where the word church came from and how it was injected into our bibles to replace "the holy assembly of Israel".

Church comes from the Anglo-Saxon root word "circe," and stems from the Greek name of the goddess "Circe," the daughter of "Helios," the Roman Sun-god adopted from Greek mythology. Linked to this goddess in Celtic pagan worship is the name "Kirce." From her name comes the word "kirch" which pertained to the building dedicated to pagan Celtic worship and rituals. The Greek word "kuriakon" was used for the building or "house of Kurios (Lord)."

Kahal or Kehelat are the proper Hebrew words pertaining to a public place of assembly or congregational place worship dedicated to EH'YEH. Ekklesia is the Greek word used in the Brit Chadasha/New Testament for the assembly of the "called out ones," but is never used in reference to a building, only denoting the people who have assembled the Isrealites.


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THE [KAHAL]church BEGAN ON THE DAY OF ASSEMBLY ON A SHABBAT AND EXPLAINED BY STEPHEN

It will be proven as discovered that the birth of the "church" actually happened nearly 2,000 years earlier at mount Sinai ON a shabbat.


In Stephen’s sermon in Acts 7, he makes mention of Moses (Moshe) and the event that happened at mount Sinai in Acts 7:37-38 as it is written:

"This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall you hear. This is he, that was in the CHURCH in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles [the Torah] to give unto us."



In Acts 7:37-38, Stephen is referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:15-16 as it is written:


"The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the DAY OF THE ASSEMBLYTHE DAY OF ASSeMBLY WAS ON THE SHABBAT


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TAKE A LOOK AT LEVITICUS 23 NOW
Lev 23:1-24:1 "The LORD said to Moses, "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. "There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly.



The word in Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 translated in the King James Bible as "assembly" is the Hebrew word "kahal" which is the Greek word "ekklesia" and is the English word "church." In the King James translation of the New Testament (Brit Hadashah), the Greek word "ekklesia" translated into English as "church" in Acts 7:38 was referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 which describes the event that happened at mount Sinai (Horeb) as the day of the assembly/kahal/beit knesset/assembly of israel


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CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10: CHRIST WAS IN THE WILDERNESS WITH MOSES AND THE ISRAELITES
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

IN THE WILDERNESS THEY TEMPTED HIM ALSO AND HE SENT SERPENTS ON THEM

Corinthians chp 10

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents

Reference to verse above

Nu chp 21
5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died

THE CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH BEING STARTED IN THE TIME OF THE BOOK OF ACTS CHAPTER 2 IS ANOTHER LIE IN ORDER TO INTRODUCE THE PAGAN CHURCH THEOLOGY AND PROMOTE SUN WORSHIP


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Paganism and Christianity for a time were equal, then slowly it became preferable to be a Christian if promotion and prestige were sought after. Many pagans claimed to profess Christianity, whilst still holding onto their pagan beliefs.

With the State, The Roman Empire, ruling the new Catholic Church, the idea of 'Corpus Christianum' was born, the coalition of church and state. There could be only one church, which at first was to be guided by Christian values in its politics, economics and social life. Its legal basis was the corpus iuris canonica (body of canon law). The Church's peak authority over all Europe was in the Middle Ages, based on "One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church" of the Nicene Creed, 325/381. Far from being based on Christian values, pagan beliefs and power struggles became the rule, not the exception. The Roman Catholic Church soon had little in common with the Bible which was eventually banned, being an embarrassment. To be a Christian would be illegal whilst both State and Church claimed to be Christian, and would use any means to destroy those who turned to the bible for authority in spiritual matters.

The Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 finally legally ended the concept of 'Corpus Christianum', the "One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church" of the Nicene Creed. With the Treaty of Westphalia, the Wars of Religion came to an end, and, as confirmed in the Treaty of Utrecht of 1715, the concept of the sovereign national state was born resulting a new civilisation known as "Western Civilisation". Western Civilisation though would be characterised by the values of secular humanism and the separation of church and state.

Under Constantine and the later Catholic movement, Pagan temples became what the gentiles calls church buildings, the English word church refers to a pagan temple and not the biblical ecclesia (people) of EH'YEH. In time pagan priests became 'Christian' priests, pagan and heathen ceremonies came into the now apostate church which resulted in Easter and Christmas.

In the former pagan system the Head of State, the Emperor was also the head of religion wearing the tile Pontifex Maximus, which is still used today by the pope.


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THE CHURCH BEGAN ON THE DAY OF ASSEMBLY ON A SHABBAT AND EXPLAINED BY STEPHEN

It will be proven as discovered that the birth of the "church" actually happened nearly 2,000 years earlier at mount Sinai ON a shabbat.

In Stephen’s sermon in Acts 7, he makes mention of Moses (Moshe) and the event that happened at mount Sinai in Acts 7:37-38 as it is written:

"This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall you hear. This is he, that was in the CHURCH in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles [the Torah] to give unto us."


In Acts 7:37-38, Stephen is referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:15-16 as it is written:

"The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the DAY OF THE ASSEMBLYTHE DAY OF ASSeMBLY WAS ON THE SHABBAT


TAKE A LOOK AT LEVITICUS 23 NOW
Lev 23:1-24:1 "The LORD said to Moses, "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. "There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly.



The word in Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 translated in the King James Bible as "assembly" is the Hebrew word "kahal" which is the Greek word "ekklesia" and is the English word "church." In the King James translation of the New Testament (Brit Hadashah), the Greek word "ekklesia" translated into English as "church" in Acts 7:38 was referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 which describes the event that happened at mount Sinai (Horeb) as the day of the assembly/kahal/beit knesset/assembly of israel


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CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10: CHRIST WAS IN THE WILDERNESS WITH MOSES AND THE ISRAELITES
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

IN THE WILDERNESS THEY TEMPTED HIM ALSO AND HE SENT SERPENTS ON THEM

Corinthians chp 10

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents

Reference to verse above

Nu chp 21
5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died

THE CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH BEING STARTED IN THE TIME OF THE BOOK OF ACTS CHAPTER 2 IS ANOTHER LIE IN ORDER TO INTRODUCE THE PAGAN CHURCH THEOLOGY AND PROMOTE SUN WORSHIP
 Quoting: neim777


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THE CHURCH BEGAN ON THE DAY OF ASSEMBLY ON A SHABBAT AND EXPLAINED BY STEPHEN

It will be proven as discovered that the birth of the "church" actually happened nearly 2,000 years earlier at mount Sinai ON a shabbat.

In Stephen’s sermon in Acts 7, he makes mention of Moses (Moshe) and the event that happened at mount Sinai in Acts 7:37-38 as it is written:

"This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall you hear. This is he, that was in the CHURCH in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles [the Torah] to give unto us."


In Acts 7:37-38, Stephen is referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:15-16 as it is written:

"The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the DAY OF THE ASSEMBLYTHE DAY OF ASSeMBLY WAS ON THE SHABBAT


TAKE A LOOK AT LEVITICUS 23 NOW
Lev 23:1-24:1 "The LORD said to Moses, "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed feasts, the appointed feasts of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. "There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly.



The word in Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 translated in the King James Bible as "assembly" is the Hebrew word "kahal" which is the Greek word "ekklesia" and is the English word "church." In the King James translation of the New Testament (Brit Hadashah), the Greek word "ekklesia" translated into English as "church" in Acts 7:38 was referring to Deuteronomy (Devarim) 18:16 which describes the event that happened at mount Sinai (Horeb) as the day of the assembly/kahal/beit knesset/assembly of israel


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CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10: CHRIST WAS IN THE WILDERNESS WITH MOSES AND THE ISRAELITES
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

IN THE WILDERNESS THEY TEMPTED HIM ALSO AND HE SENT SERPENTS ON THEM

Corinthians chp 10

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents

Reference to verse above

Nu chp 21
5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died

THE CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH BEING STARTED IN THE TIME OF THE BOOK OF ACTS CHAPTER 2 IS ANOTHER LIE IN ORDER TO INTRODUCE THE PAGAN CHURCH THEOLOGY AND PROMOTE SUN WORSHIP
 Quoting: neim777


Yes, something did happen that changed things concerning Moses..

Just remember that Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael and his 12 tribes, Jacob/Israel and his 12 tribes...DID NOT follow the law of Moses or even knew of Moses..
Abraham and his sons all followed the order of Melchizedek which was instituted by Noah..
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Moses is symbolic "Ophiuchus" in astronomy which is the constellation depicted by "man holding a serpent" ..
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The Church began at Adam.
The Menorah are the seven that we as gentiles are grafted into.
Christ has been with those created in His image since creation.
No man could open the door so Jesus Christ opened the door ate Calvary.
The Revelation is the testimony of Christ from creation till His second coming to redeem His saints.

God is so good to all His fallen creation, He is very pitiful and of a tender mercy.

May God bless you richly Neim
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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ADAM

NOAH

BABEL

ABRAHAM

ISAAC

JACOB

MOSES

Then the door was opened on Calvary.......this is where the promised rest is found......."On The Other Side Of The Thresh hold"

Most pass through the Red Sea/ The Blood Of Christand they stay in the wilderness their whole life long, not realizing the promised rest is just a short walk of faith away from where they now are.
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What Bs! The gnostics started theiur religion in 6000 BC. They had mant places of worship. Once again judaism takes history and rewrites it.


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doesn't matter, church is not of God, it is of man's creation.

and why is the topic important? this world is dying, and I advise some of you here to be concentrating on issues that are actually important NOW. This old shit is old shit. period.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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