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While we are busy dissecting the 'killing' of Bin Laden, the upcoming elections, the Royal farce of a wedding, the birth certificate... there's a piece of legislation that threatens to end free speech:

Quote from: squarepusher on May 13, 2011, 11:07:49 AM

DMCA is a bigger threat to your freedoms than the Patriot Act.


This has NOTHING to do with 'copyright infringement' ... although they are careful to couch it in terms of 'piracy'. But in fact, if you read below, you'll find that the law is not specific to sites that 'pirate'. This proposed legislation is about shutting down any speech that is critical of the faux government running the US. This is about killing the first amendment.

This is treasonous legislation hiding behind the appearance of protecting copyright holders from 'piracy'. In fact, if this bill passes, it would mean the government can shut any website down (the definition is very broad by design), remove any references to them in search engines, and sue them in courts.

This would be the end of free speech on the internet.
Think about the "google search term for today"...
Now what sites do you suppose will make the blacklist, hmm?

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Senate Bill Gives Feds Power to Order Blacklisting of Piracy Sites
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By David Kravets May 12, 2011 | 6:02 pm | Categories: intellectual property, politics

Senate antipiracy legislation introduced Thursday would dramatically increase the government’s legal power to disrupt and shutter websites “dedicated to infringing activities.”

A major feature of the Protect IP Act, introduced by 11 senators of all stripes, would grant the government the authority to bring lawsuits against these websites, and obtain court orders requiring search engines like Google to stop displaying links to them.

“Both law enforcement and rights holders are currently limited in the remedies available to combat websites dedicated to offering infringing content and products,” said Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), the bill’s main sponsor.

The proposal is an offshoot to the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act introduced last year. It was scrapped by its authors in exchange for the Protect IP Act in a bid to win Senate passage.

Under the old COICA draft, the government was authorized to obtain court orders to seize so-called generic top-level domains ending in .com, .org and .net. The new legislation (.pdf), with the same sponsors, narrows that somewhat.

Instead of allowing for the seizure of domains, it allows the Justice Department to obtain court orders demanding American ISPs stop rendering the DNS for a particular website — meaning the sites would still be accessible outside the United States.

Either way, though, the legislation amounts to the holy grail of intellectual-property enforcement that the recording industry, movie studios and their union and guild workforces have been clamoring for since the George W. Bush administration.

“As the guilds and unions that represent 400,000 creators, performers and craftspeople who create the multitude of diverse films, television programs and sound recordings that are enjoyed by billions of people around the world, we unequivocally support this bill which, by providing protection for our members’ work, clearly shows that our government will not condone or permit the wholesale looting of the American economy and American creativity and ingenuity — regardless of how that looting is disguised on the internet to fool the American consumer,” (.pdf) a host of unions said Wednesday, including the American Federation of Musicians, American Federation of Television and Radio Artists and the Directors Guild of America.

The new bill also gives content owners more rights than the old bill. It would allow rights holders to seek court orders instructing online ad services and credit card companies from partnering with the infringing sites — a power the government is granted in either legislative version.

Only the government gets the DNS blocking powers. And the Digital Millennium Copyright Act already grants rights holders the ability to demand search engines to stop displaying search results linking to infringing sites.

Despite the new bill watering down the United States’ reach, the government has been invoking an asset-forfeiture law to seize generic top-level domains of infringing websites under a program called Operation in Our Sites.” It began last year, and the Department of Homeland Security has targeted 120 sites.

Abigail Phillips, a copyright attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said because of Operation in Our Sites, the DNS changeover “doesn’t seem all that meaningful.”

Sherwin Siy, deputy legal director at Public Knowledge, noted that the measure does not narrowly define the websites that could be targeted.

“The bill still defines a site as ‘dedicated to infringing activities,’ if it is designed or marketed as ‘enabling or facilitating’ actions that are found to be infringing,” he said. “In other words,
even if the site isn’t itself infringing copyright,
if its actions ‘enable or facilitate’ someone else’s infringement,
the government can tell ISPs to blacklist your site,
and copyright holders can sue to cut your funding.”

Here's the bill:
[link to www.publicknowledge.org]
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Just one more reason to support Ron Paul. If you want to keep your freedom and liberties you better put your vote where it will make a difference.
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YES! perhaps we can get this web site blacklisted before trin takes more money from his people then bans them!
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This is controlled dissent. Welcome to the internet. They ban you if speak out against anything vehemently. They enjoy lulling you into obscurity through bans, knowing that this site is practically the last bastion of free speech.
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YES! perhaps we can get this web site blacklisted before trin takes more money from his people then bans them!
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What these struggling artist don't seem to understand is that they are unknown.
Unknown artists have no hope in making any money from their work unless they are picked up by a large producer.
The reason for that is no one is going to spend any of their money on material from an unknown artist.

So right now, with piracy, these unknown artists may be broke, but they are becoming known by people who will DL and listen to their work for free. Those people then introduce other people to this unknown artist and slowly but surely they become popular.

Piracy helps them make the transition from an unknown to a known.

If this type of legislation passes, and if by some miracle it actually is effective against piracy, thse struggling artists will never, ever make any money from their work, unless they cow-tow to the big name producers.

They will never have the opportunity to become known.

It will definitely kill the majority of dreams that any of them have.
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bye bye alternative media
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Just one more reason to support Ron Paul. If you want to keep your freedom and liberties you better put your vote where it will make a difference.
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give it up. why do you think he is retiring? because he is going to win the presidency? bs bs bs! he is part of the system. do you think he has blown the lid off on even 1% of the illegal, tptb shit going on in washington? wake up he can't win, if he could we wouldn't want him, the game is rigged.
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this will happen

we will see war by sept oct this yr

then peace treaty to follow

this is all part of their plan

to begin the end

Jacobs troubles coming

dont say you have not been warned
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“When these days of prophesying are closed up, and on the day of my Passing Over my people as I did upon the firstborn of the lands of Egypt, I will send again the Death Angel upon the earth to reap a harvest into my kingdom and cast the timothy into the fires of eternal torment. I have decreed for twelve hundred and threescore days wars, pestilences, death, and the greatest earthquake upon the earth until the cup of my wrath is empty and all the earth is a desolation.

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All the more reason to fight back. Waiting for our next election may be too late.

Eliminating free speech stifles resistance. make plans. Be secretive. Trust only close friends and family. Be wary of people over eager to join your group.

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Just one more reason to support Ron Paul. If you want to keep your freedom and liberties you better put your vote where it will make a difference.
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give it up. why do you think he is retiring? because he is going to win the presidency? bs bs bs! he is part of the system. do you think he has blown the lid off on even 1% of the illegal, tptb shit going on in washington? wake up he can't win, if he could we wouldn't want him, the game is rigged.
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I like Ron Paul and as of right now he has my vote.

The Obama catastrophe was nothing but a song and dance show for TPTB, and the only thing that can out do one song and dance show is a BIGGER song and dance show. Who would TPTB want more after a dancing Obama, than to have a dancing woman.
Bachman or Palin. The show must go on.

Its like a big psy-op program to rob and ruin the nation.
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ACTUNG! Das 'site' ist VERBOTEN!!
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Just one more reason to support Ron Paul. If you want to keep your freedom and liberties you better put your vote where it will make a difference.
 Quoting: tomasgod1


give it up. why do you think he is retiring? because he is going to win the presidency? bs bs bs! he is part of the system. do you think he has blown the lid off on even 1% of the illegal, tptb shit going on in washington? wake up he can't win, if he could we wouldn't want him, the game is rigged.
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I like Ron Paul and as of right now he has my vote.

The Obama catastrophe was nothing but a song and dance show for TPTB, and the only thing that can out do one song and dance show is a BIGGER song and dance show. Who would TPTB want more after a dancing Obama, than to have a dancing woman.
Bachman or Palin. The show must go on.

Its like a big psy-op program to rob and ruin the nation.
rant
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OH... i better say sumpthin before i get burned. Nothing against the ladies!!!! Whew! hiding
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this will happen

we will see war by sept oct this yr

then peace treaty to follow

this is all part of their plan

to begin the end

Jacobs troubles coming

dont say you have not been warned
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Care to share how you came to that conclusion? Maybe in another thread so as not to derail this one?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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this will happen

we will see war by sept oct this yr

then peace treaty to follow

this is all part of their plan

to begin the end

Jacobs troubles coming

dont say you have not been warned
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kitty Hm, thats about what I was thinking.
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I said this before, and again.
They are ALREADY doing this.
These mechanics have been in place for years now.
This is part of the move to legitimize the control they already have in place (before these controls are fully exposed).
Enhanced wiretaps, monitoring of financial transactions, real-time keyword flags.... it goes on....
Don't worry, it's for your own good.....
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Double plus ungood.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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maybe we need to BLACKLIST Government Websites?
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Instead of allowing for the seizure of domains, it allows the Justice Department to obtain court orders demanding American ISPs stop rendering the DNS for a particular website — meaning the sites would still be accessible outside the United States.


LAND OF THE FREE!!! HA
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Doesn't it sound like they are talking about piracy?

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sign this petition to stop this bill passing...

[link to act.demandprogress.org]
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also click the campaigns item in menu at top to see the other petitions and sign them as well
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He's not my President!





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