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The Four Horsemen

 
JohnC
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The Four Horsemen
I was going through the Bible and noticed in the Book of Zechariah there is a vision of four horsemen. They aren't named or described in the way the ones from Revelations are. There are two red horses, a white one and a sorrel one. In the vision they have patrolled the Earth and found it to be completely tranquil.

I'm wondering if these horsemen are supposed to be related to the ones of Revelations? Are these first horsemen the inspiration for the second horsemen? Are they supposed to be the same group?
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Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. :4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue (This is the Remnant being purified) with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

The words of Daniel that have been opened. Understanding is being revealed to the remnant.

The Lion is the British Capitalist Empire. (wings plucked, America) The Bear is the Bolskevik Soviet Communist Empire. (Bear Russia) The Leopard is the Nazi Facist Empire,(Leopard, Panther 3rd Reich) The diverse 4th Beast is the United Nations, aka the New World Order which is a conglomeration of the previous 3. "Dreadful and Terrible".(It's actually the 4th Reich)

To confirm

.Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. :3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. :7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

God made it idiot proof, color coded. White- England, Red- Russia, Black- Nazi, Pale the diverse 4th a conglomeration of them all. The Diverse 4th Beast, also know as the Pale Horse, the 4 Beasts and the 4 Horses are the same thing. We have been in the Pale Horse since 1947 when the UN was formed. The rider of the pale horse is Death and Hell.

Isaiah 28 is the complete picture of the church today. It starts out with

Isa 28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine! .

Ephraim is a metaphore for the multitude. The multitude are the wheat, in the church drunk on wine. Wine is a metaphor for false doctrine.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables

Isa 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

15 says "We are Christians we have a covenant with death and an agreement with hell, when the tribulation comes it will not affect us". (IE 2 Tim fables, Rapture, once saved always saved, warm fuzzy gospel, etc)

Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

This deal the church believes it has with death and hell is about to be dissanulled. The church has "No Deal"

The tribulation comes down ON THE CHURCH Thats the point. It's to purify the church, to "sweep away the lies" The hail are the tares. The judgement as in all of Gods poetic irony comes from within the church The tares, the false teachers and money changers in the church will be Gods vessels of wrath. .

Bottom line we are on the threshhold of WW3. From the demonically controlled world governments point of view it is to depopulate thier precious planet. Search ("Georgia Guidstones") From Gods point of view it is the Great Tribulation, the Day of the Lords anger, The Lords Strange Act, Jacobs Trouble. It is to prepare a spotless bride. Jesus will return to a spotless bride.

The woman is a metaphor for the church, Israel. The woman in the wilderness is the Remnant (The Remnant of Israel) that "comes out" and is protected. The Harlot is the apostate church, mystery babylon, the image of the beast. Today we have a replay of the time of Christ. the pattern is identical. The religious system that killed Christ has risen back to power. The parallels are identical.

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The Beast that was, (Killed Christ) is not (destroyed 70 AD "Deadly Wound") even is (1948 Israel became a nation, "Deadly Wound Healed") The 8th is the spiritual kingdom of Edom, that comes out of the 7 (the kingdom of heaven, IE Mat 13) and goes into perdition. The church has to go bad, it is written, it is scheduled to go bad just like it did the first time.

Decieved Christians following the notion they must support Israel are forfieting thier birthright "AS" Israel and are wondering after the beast who's dealdy wound was healed. (1948)

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

This is the pale horse the diverse 4th beast the New World Order. Consider the Death and Hell that came out of the first 3, imagine what will happen now that they are all combined.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

This is talking about the Little Horn.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The Little horn whos deadly wound was healed is the nation state of Israel. The command center for the New World Order. The New World Order is right out of the Talmud.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

This is the false prophet. The false prophet is the Harlot Corporate Church, the image of the beast ie corporate entity creation of the beast state. The Evangelical Establishment telling everyone they must support Israel is actually the false prophet causing the "Earth Dwellers" the church to worship the first Beast whos deadly wound was healed.

Where are we with this? www.cufi.org

It's all right under our nose and the church is oblivious. Why? Because they love not the truth. Because the Corporate Church is the false prophet who makes lies it's refuge and hides itself in falsehoods.

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

"GOD" sends the strong delusion !

Luk 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

That snare! Who does it come upon? the "Earth Dwellers" drunk on false doctrine.

Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Jer 50:24 I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the LORD.

God lays the snare! In Jeremiah and Luke the people are "unaware". God does not mess around!

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
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The answer to the question isn't in the bible, because the bible is creating the four horsemen.

This will answer any questions you could ever have:

Horseman 1 destroyed:
[link to www.fatimamovement.com]

Horseman 2 destroyed:
[link to www.fatimamovement.com]

Horseman 3 destroyed:
[link to www.fatimamovement.com]

Horseman 4 destroyed:
[link to www.fatimamovement.com]

You should burn your bible and pick up a Rosary:
[link to www.fatimamovement.com]

Good luck to you all.
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There's the futurist view posted above and the traditional historicist view that was prevalent prior to the year 1900 that says the four horsemen chapter is fulfilled. Today we are into Rev 17 & 19 just before the Second Coming.

The four horsemen rode as periods of the Church; The white horse is not the antichrist as the futurists claim rather was the period soon after the cross when the Church had the pure message. The next was a period under Rome's persecutions. And this continues until the pale horse symbolizing the corruption under papal Rome.

After these first four trumpets the 5th & 6th trumpets were the "woes" when Islam took the eastern Roman empire.

BiblorTraditions does some helpful videos about the trumpets and related symbolism.
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