facts interlaced with lies does not equal truth.
Quoting: SelflessnHumbleYou kind of messed up the quotes there a little bit. lol
Stupid quoting system.
There are no lies in the Bible. Those are the definitions of the original words. Quite a few people here have posted verses that say 'everlasting' and 'for ever'. Which have the definition of 'perpetual' and 'perpetual's English definition means never ending.
Now, if you want to hop on the 'forever doesn't mean forever' band wagon, by all means, be my guest, however, the definitions of the original words are obviously, open for interpretation. And apparently, the OP has decided on the 'for ever doesn't mean never ending in Greek or Hebrew.' and he's entitled to that. However, he has lost some brownie points by arguing the original meanings of the words by quoting more massively mis-interpreted versions of the Bible. Which I personally find ironic, as we're debating the true meaning of the Greek and Hebrew words.
It doesn't mean those who believe it's never ending are lying.
The thing you are failing to acknowledge is that
there is this elusive word that MANY people overlook
when things like personal interpretation seem to take hold of people's beliefs, instead of using sound judgment and critical thinking...for example: CONTEXT.
Revelation does not state that humans will suffer
the same eternal suffering as the beast, false prophet and the devil will....
^^^ This FACT cannot be disputed....Check.
2nd, Your ignorance is leaking through your words.
First off, I have never hopped on any "bandwagon"
as you have appeared to have done...by virtue of your faith.
A faith based on conjecture/widely accepted opinion
(without FACTS) is akin to believing that
the money in circulation is backed by substance.
I don't pound my chest in thinking I could possibly know
something I do not: whether or not the bible is real
and whether or not there is Jesus/God awaiting his
"children" to obtain everlasting life....because I do not.
I humbly admit I know not.
What I do know is that God has fucked up many many times
and has a shitty track record when it comes to:
unconditional love
compassion empathy
open and honest communication.
In fact he's done the complete opposite.
You may feel different, fine.
But don't pretend that I'm some idiot who spouts off
and repeats (like a parrot) what he's been read or told!
And then believes this hearsay with absolution that it is true. It doesn't work like that for me.
Isn't it ironic you claim the OP bases his knowledge on
"mis-interpretations" yet you feel that somehow YOURS are infallibly correct?
The beauty of belief, YET the problem with belief! = Irony.
It's very conceivable that the 2nd death means once
cast into the lake of fire: your soul is destroyed AND
that means your soul is forever dead...NOT forever suffering in eternal torture.
Make sense? Or are you going to create interpretations
from scripture that do not exist?
