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Teaching gay history in school...,.,

 
Lady Wolf

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Well...I may be in the minority here, but I don't think schools have any business teaching "health" and "sex ed" either! I think that is a responsibility that the parents should be doing! Schools should be teaching the basics. Leave everything else up to the parents!
 Quoting: Lady Wolf

You're not in the minority, Lady Wolf. . .

At least there are two of us. hf
 Quoting: FieryFlies


+100 million over on your right!


It's so ass backwards...they teach sex so you won't
do it and it backfires.

Why do you think there is so much teen problems?
Because they were taught from the schools not from
home! "Varsity Blues" anyone?

Boys prime is teenage years...get it while ya can.

Plus they provide condoms so why not have sex?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441611


Exactly!! And thanks for the show of support:)
Real truth is self evident...
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this country is going to hell in a hand basket and fast! it's all part of the agenda! if this happens to my childrens' schools then they will be pulled out faster than you can say "fuck you!"
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Too damn bad GLP isn't up for sale. I would shut it the fuck down and put a redirect to gay porn just to piss all you fuckers off.
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Re: Teaching gay history in school...,.,
So what makes it different from the book of mormon, the koran, hindu bible, or all other religious books?

If it's up for your personal interpretation, who's right? Are you here to tell the Creator, "Hey you were wrong, sodomy is okay now, we're progressing". if you do, I'll stand far away from ya. ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71405


Well my personal interpretation of the situation is that all of these books lay out the principles and values which are keys to laying the foundations for successful societies that follow the understandings of the divine that have been derived and interpreted through prophesy and observation.

Our current society has strayed so far away from the basic values that enable success in human groups over long periods of time, and I think we are going to feel the effects of what happens when powerful human forces attempt to do this for the long term. From a spiritual perspective, the consequences of this are increasing manifestation of the forces of the Shadow of the human collective conscious in consensual physical reality. I think the current expression of homosexuality as manifest in individuals and culture can be seen as one symptom of this... but the simple fact remains that this is a part of human nature, as humans do it, which is nature endowed by the Creator.

So the harder one fights against these forces, ironically, once a state of imbalance has been reached, the more these forces push back and attempt to establish roots in society. By further marginalizing whole groups that have a clear presence in civilization, the majority of society places a stigma on certain minorities as an attempt to suppress an aspect of human nature embodied in certain individuals whose lifestyle cannot be accepted for one reason or another.

I think the best course of action is to establish a love and acceptance of all individuals who understand the creeds of divine Love and Compassion, in whatever form spoken or unspoken they choose to do it, based on the understanding that in this day and age we are all to some degree subject to a state of being that does not fully satisfy the deeper needs of our existence as spiritual beings and recognize the beauty present in each human as God's Creation, doing his or her best to develop and implement strategies to cope with their own existence and the admittedly bizarre and increasingly inhumane times in which we live.

hf

Last Edited by Least Servant on 07/15/2011 11:07 AM
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Re: Teaching gay history in school...,.,
This thread is becoming more of a religious debate! The fact is, even without our religious views, it is a destraction the kids don't need. It will take away from the accomplishment of the person they are studying. If a child is so inclined to research the sexuality of famous people, they can do it on their own. If they are old enough to relize they are gay, let them use the web to google "people in history who are gay" or whatever. These people are not in the history book for their sexual preferences, but for what they accomplished. Unless it was KY gel, I dont see why it has anything to do with their bedroom antics.
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it was better when they were still in the closet
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I never understood why sexual preference was
made my issue. Why it was forced upon my mind to
have to deal with it.

I don't want those thoughts in my head!
I don't want those images in MY HEAD!
Go do what you do but quit forcing your ideas upon
the ones who don't want to indulge.

I don't parade myself down the street stutin' "I'm hetero"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441611


Isn't it interesting how the tide has changed? If you're a heterosexual, suddenly you're a 'breeder' and need to stop having kids. wtf

We should start our own parade. Straight pride parade. . it's only fair, since this is about equality. bdanceltanaspeedbananbanana
 Quoting: FieryFlies


Yes!
Sign of the times...and their time is running overtime.
Father God, Please Don't Tarry!

Father God is my caretaker, and I have been saying for the
last ten years, "Thank God my children are raised."

Two years ago, we turned off the tv.
No more unleavened bread
coming into the home via tv waves.

We only subscribe to the internet, so we see only
what we want to see. We are free in our minds
because of this. Not a lot of clutter from the
demented world. We are able to meditate with
God easier because of lack of clutter.
I like it.
Anonymous Coward
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07/15/2011 11:22 AM
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So what makes it different from the book of mormon, the koran, hindu bible, or all other religious books?

If it's up for your personal interpretation, who's right? Are you here to tell the Creator, "Hey you were wrong, sodomy is okay now, we're progressing". if you do, I'll stand far away from ya. ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71405


Well my personal interpretation of the situation is that all of these books lay out the principles and values which are keys to laying the foundations for successful societies that follow the understandings of the divine that have been derived and interpreted through prophesy and observation.

Our current society has strayed so far away from the basic values that enable success in human groups over long periods of time, and I think we are going to feel the effects of what happens when powerful human forces attempt to do this for the long term. From a spiritual perspective, the consequences of this are increasing manifestation of the forces of the Shadow of the human collective conscious in consensual physical reality. I think the current expression of homosexuality as manifest in individuals and culture can be seen as one symptom of this... but the simple fact remains that this is a part of human nature, as humans do it, which is nature endowed by the Creator.

So the harder one fights against these forces, ironically, once a state of imbalance has been reached, the more these forces push back and attempt to establish roots in society. By further marginalizing whole groups that have a clear presence in civilization, the majority of society places a stigma on certain minorities as an attempt to suppress an aspect of human nature embodied in certain individuals whose lifestyle cannot be accepted for one reason or another.

I think the best course of action is to establish a love and acceptance of all individuals who understand the creeds of divine Love and Compassion, in whatever form spoken or unspoken they choose to do it, based on the understanding that in this day and age we are all to some degree subject to a state of being that does not fully satisfy the deeper needs of our existence as spiritual beings and recognize the beauty present in each human as God's Creation, doing his or her best to develop and implement strategies to cope with their own existence and the admittedly bizarre and increasingly inhumane times in which we live.

hf
 Quoting: Least Servant


:germans love has:
Least Servant

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tounge
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Re: Teaching gay history in school...,.,
What next;
teaching who in the contributory world
was a pedophile; a womanizer,
or illigitimate children?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440784


Are not pedophiles gay?

I would imagine learning about pedophilia would be part of their sick corriculum.

Man-boy "love"

isnt' this it???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1392886



Well now...inviting the "priesthood" to be special
guest speakers will make for
good "show and tell" for our children.

WTF!

Father God, Please Don't Tarry!

peace
The Chosen One

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07/15/2011 11:26 AM
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Too Bad for California.

Get ready for the Big Earthquake to hit California any day now.

They continue to stay blinded by the darkness.

May God Forgive them..
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Anonymous Coward
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07/15/2011 11:29 AM
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we'll teach gay history

but not the constitution

this country is fucked
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Damn right !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466781


Unfortunately, there is no point in teaching the Constitution anymore since it is routinely ignored and has been relegated to being an interesting archaic document much like the Magna Carta.

By the way, I taught the Constitution for 20 years.
Anonymous Coward
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Too Bad for California.

Get ready for the Big Earthquake to hit California any day now.

They continue to stay blinded by the darkness.

May God Forgive them..
 Quoting: The Chosen One


WAHAHAHAAHAAA You idiot.

london has been accepting the gay community for years and years, where is our 'earthquake' then you bafoon.
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Re: Teaching gay history in school...,.,
Why not concentrate on what they are there for to learn reading writing and math -
be nice if they were also learning the pledge of allegiance,learning the national anthem.all the things we were taught when we were younger -
Respect for others,,do unto others as you would have them do unto you! When to saltue the flag at events, putting your hand over your heart,, UNLIKE OUR PRESIDENT who has no allegiance to our flag and no respect for his FLAG or his country..They need to teach HISTORY period ---
now if there is a tiny page devoted to how gays have
wrangled their way into thinking they are a part of history,, what a joke but ok fine, give them a page! but thats it!It really falls under another category - say social studies,,,where you read about the different popuplations and the influences it has had on the society,,, other than that ,, they are NOT or have not contributed much into history!
Other than to cause a division amoung men and women.
I have gay friends and a gay brother - and none of them are
radicals out to BE HEARD - they live their lives quietly and in peace and want to be left alone, and contribute to their communities - just as any person would, they are not demanding anything. And they dont want any special attention so no one needs to teach anything about sex in school - hetro,or gay,, unless its a subject you touch on in health class. Personally I think it could be a chapter in the health book - and an option only for those who are interested, other than that WHO CARES-
I can guarantee those kids dont!
Anonymous Coward
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Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become.

In fact, I think I'll make a thread about that.

overcap
 Quoting: True GRiT


Well Said.

I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously.

Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others.

This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words.

no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much.
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Passing this law will also mean more expenditures the state doesn't have to get this new text into the schools.

Geez, can't pay the bills, "hey, let's make more!
And this time make it perverted while we're at it!"
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Don't try to confuse this with a "struggle for equality" - in no way does a minority group of perverts compare to the civil rights era of the 1960s.

Gays have an agenda to break down the family, dilute the meaning of marriage and force their behavior onto kids who should be learning about George Washington, geography and math.

Gay history has NO PLACE in the classroom or anywhere for that matter
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Oh great, more irrelevant "feel-good" bullshit to muddy up the already agenda-infested History classes.
Wonderful.
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Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become.

In fact, I think I'll make a thread about that.

overcap
 Quoting: True GRiT


Well Said.

I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously.

Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others.

This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words.

no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much.
 Quoting: Pabs



You really are disingenuous when you portray anyone who disagrees with the gay lifestyle as ignorant, homophobic and fundamentally Christian - it is their behavior we don't like, the in your face attitude, the acting up at gay prides, don't try to use the straw man argument that we are bigots because we disagree with something that is, and has always been, viewed as unnatural and disgusting.

I don't like broccoli, does that make me ignorant and hateful of vegetables? Think carefully about your words.
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Three words "not age appropriate" for kinder and elementary.

'Good morning class today I will be teaching you about anal and oral sex and the famous people in America who prefer this style of fetish.'
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All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion!
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Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become.

In fact, I think I'll make a thread about that.

overcap
 Quoting: True GRiT


Well Said.

I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously.

Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others.

This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words.

no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much.
 Quoting: Pabs



You really are disingenuous when you portray anyone who disagrees with the gay lifestyle as ignorant, homophobic and fundamentally Christian - it is their behavior we don't like, the in your face attitude, the acting up at gay prides, don't try to use the straw man argument that we are bigots because we disagree with something that is, and has always been, viewed as unnatural and disgusting.

I don't like broccoli, does that make me ignorant and hateful of vegetables? Think carefully about your words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290576


Really? When do you EVER see them in your face? do you walk down the street and they come up to you blowing kisses or something? They go to there own bars and clubs, they have a parade once a year, you dont have to go to it, its not on your street is it. I know gay people, when they are in their own environment they do play up a bit, thats their prerogative but they also act very normal and professional when in the company of straight people who they clearly can tell are uncomfortable with gays out of respect.
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All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion!
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Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic...

I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me
he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag.

It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an
artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head
that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!!

Get me?
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SACRAMENTO -- California became the nation's first state to require its public schools to teach students about the history and contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people Thursday.

The new law, SB48, was signed by Gov. Jerry Brown today and will take effect in January.

"History should be honest," Brown said in a statement.
[link to www.ktvu.com]

So whats the deal here? "Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and oh, btw, he was gay and liked to dress in womens clothing"

Why does this have to even be brought up?
 Quoting: TheBroker


I agree. Someone Sexual orientation has no bearing on there notability. They are brainwashing kids to think it okay to be gay.
I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf.
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All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion!
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Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic...

I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me
he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag.

It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an
artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head
that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!!

Get me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441611


No I don't get you...
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yo mama gave you birth. yo daddy gave the seed.

ain't take brains to figure this out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1462726


Learn to speak and maybe someone would listen. Must be a down home country boy! Stick to boning your sister and confederate flags. Computers are a little out of your league!!!!
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Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become.

In fact, I think I'll make a thread about that.

overcap
 Quoting: True GRiT


Well Said.

I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously.

Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others.

This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words.

no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much.
 Quoting: Pabs


everything to these brainwashed sheep is hateful ..
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All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007


Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic...

I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me
he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag.

It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an
artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head
that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!!

Get me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441611

I agree with this (sans the "fag" word).
Any historian worth his/her salt will see this as unnecessary details that have no relevancy to the outcome of any major event.
The point of history is to gain knowledge of the relevant details on major events in the past. Thats it, no more and no less.
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Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become.

In fact, I think I'll make a thread about that.

overcap
 Quoting: True GRiT


Well Said.

I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously.

Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others.

This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words.

no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much.
 Quoting: Pabs


everything to these brainwashed sheep is hateful ..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465660


Free ideas remember? anyone can say what they want. NO matter if it offended you. Are you telling me advocated limited free speech?
I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf.
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SACRAMENTO -- California became the nation's first state to require its public schools to teach students about the history and contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people Thursday.

The new law, SB48, was signed by Gov. Jerry Brown today and will take effect in January.

"History should be honest," Brown said in a statement.
[link to www.ktvu.com]

So whats the deal here? "Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and oh, btw, he was gay and liked to dress in womens clothing"

Why does this have to even be brought up?
 Quoting: TheBroker


I agree. Someone Sexual orientation has no bearing on there notability. They are brainwashing kids to think it okay to be gay.
 Quoting: AlmustKnowe


I remember being taught in history class that some presidents had extra marital relationships.. and some were playboys.. it's relevant because it happened. History is anything that has happened..

Being gay, is being in a minority. It also means that you have to overcome certain challenges in your life and hatred from some people. This helps to form who you are. Of course it's relevant that the artist is gay.. it influenced his life in many way, and that, therfore influenced his artwork.

If an artist was treated as an outcast and spat upon for the way he looked or for his beliefs, his whole life, would that be worth teaching when talking about his art? HELL YES, it would.. it gives you an idea of where that person is coming from.

The history of how minorites overcome challenges is something that SHOULD be taught.


In places that have large number of gay people, of course gay history should be taught.

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