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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1441611 United States 07/15/2011 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood why sexual preference was Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441611made my issue. Why it was forced upon my mind to have to deal with it. I don't want those thoughts in my head! I don't want those images in MY HEAD! Go do what you do but quit forcing your ideas upon the ones who don't want to indulge. I don't parade myself down the street stutin' "I'm hetero"! Isn't it interesting how the tide has changed? If you're a heterosexual, suddenly you're a 'breeder' and need to stop having kids. We should start our own parade. Straight pride parade. . it's only fair, since this is about equality. Yes! Sign of the times...and their time is running overtime. Father God, Please Don't Tarry! Father God is my caretaker, and I have been saying for the last ten years, "Thank God my children are raised." Two years ago, we turned off the tv. No more unleavened bread coming into the home via tv waves. We only subscribe to the internet, so we see only what we want to see. We are free in our minds because of this. Not a lot of clutter from the demented world. We are able to meditate with God easier because of lack of clutter. I like it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373061 United States 07/15/2011 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what makes it different from the book of mormon, the koran, hindu bible, or all other religious books? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71405If it's up for your personal interpretation, who's right? Are you here to tell the Creator, "Hey you were wrong, sodomy is okay now, we're progressing". if you do, I'll stand far away from ya. ;) Well my personal interpretation of the situation is that all of these books lay out the principles and values which are keys to laying the foundations for successful societies that follow the understandings of the divine that have been derived and interpreted through prophesy and observation. Our current society has strayed so far away from the basic values that enable success in human groups over long periods of time, and I think we are going to feel the effects of what happens when powerful human forces attempt to do this for the long term. From a spiritual perspective, the consequences of this are increasing manifestation of the forces of the Shadow of the human collective conscious in consensual physical reality. I think the current expression of homosexuality as manifest in individuals and culture can be seen as one symptom of this... but the simple fact remains that this is a part of human nature, as humans do it, which is nature endowed by the Creator. So the harder one fights against these forces, ironically, once a state of imbalance has been reached, the more these forces push back and attempt to establish roots in society. By further marginalizing whole groups that have a clear presence in civilization, the majority of society places a stigma on certain minorities as an attempt to suppress an aspect of human nature embodied in certain individuals whose lifestyle cannot be accepted for one reason or another. I think the best course of action is to establish a love and acceptance of all individuals who understand the creeds of divine Love and Compassion, in whatever form spoken or unspoken they choose to do it, based on the understanding that in this day and age we are all to some degree subject to a state of being that does not fully satisfy the deeper needs of our existence as spiritual beings and recognize the beauty present in each human as God's Creation, doing his or her best to develop and implement strategies to cope with their own existence and the admittedly bizarre and increasingly inhumane times in which we live. :germans love has: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1441611 United States 07/15/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What next; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440784teaching who in the contributory world was a pedophile; a womanizer, or illigitimate children? Are not pedophiles gay? I would imagine learning about pedophilia would be part of their sick corriculum. Man-boy "love" isnt' this it??? Well now...inviting the "priesthood" to be special guest speakers will make for good "show and tell" for our children. WTF! Father God, Please Don't Tarry! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1419965 United States 07/15/2011 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we'll teach gay history Quoting: ^TrInItY^but not the constitution this country is fucked Damn right ! Unfortunately, there is no point in teaching the Constitution anymore since it is routinely ignored and has been relegated to being an interesting archaic document much like the Magna Carta. By the way, I taught the Constitution for 20 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 07/15/2011 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too Bad for California. Quoting: The Chosen OneGet ready for the Big Earthquake to hit California any day now. They continue to stay blinded by the darkness. May God Forgive them.. WAHAHAHAAHAAA You idiot. london has been accepting the gay community for years and years, where is our 'earthquake' then you bafoon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1428086 United States 07/15/2011 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not concentrate on what they are there for to learn reading writing and math - be nice if they were also learning the pledge of allegiance,learning the national anthem.all the things we were taught when we were younger - Respect for others,,do unto others as you would have them do unto you! When to saltue the flag at events, putting your hand over your heart,, UNLIKE OUR PRESIDENT who has no allegiance to our flag and no respect for his FLAG or his country..They need to teach HISTORY period --- now if there is a tiny page devoted to how gays have wrangled their way into thinking they are a part of history,, what a joke but ok fine, give them a page! but thats it!It really falls under another category - say social studies,,,where you read about the different popuplations and the influences it has had on the society,,, other than that ,, they are NOT or have not contributed much into history! Other than to cause a division amoung men and women. I have gay friends and a gay brother - and none of them are radicals out to BE HEARD - they live their lives quietly and in peace and want to be left alone, and contribute to their communities - just as any person would, they are not demanding anything. And they dont want any special attention so no one needs to teach anything about sex in school - hetro,or gay,, unless its a subject you touch on in health class. Personally I think it could be a chapter in the health book - and an option only for those who are interested, other than that WHO CARES- I can guarantee those kids dont! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 07/15/2011 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1290576 United States 07/15/2011 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gays have an agenda to break down the family, dilute the meaning of marriage and force their behavior onto kids who should be learning about George Washington, geography and math. Gay history has NO PLACE in the classroom or anywhere for that matter |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1290576 United States 07/15/2011 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. You really are disingenuous when you portray anyone who disagrees with the gay lifestyle as ignorant, homophobic and fundamentally Christian - it is their behavior we don't like, the in your face attitude, the acting up at gay prides, don't try to use the straw man argument that we are bigots because we disagree with something that is, and has always been, viewed as unnatural and disgusting. I don't like broccoli, does that make me ignorant and hateful of vegetables? Think carefully about your words. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 07/15/2011 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. You really are disingenuous when you portray anyone who disagrees with the gay lifestyle as ignorant, homophobic and fundamentally Christian - it is their behavior we don't like, the in your face attitude, the acting up at gay prides, don't try to use the straw man argument that we are bigots because we disagree with something that is, and has always been, viewed as unnatural and disgusting. I don't like broccoli, does that make me ignorant and hateful of vegetables? Think carefully about your words. Really? When do you EVER see them in your face? do you walk down the street and they come up to you blowing kisses or something? They go to there own bars and clubs, they have a parade once a year, you dont have to go to it, its not on your street is it. I know gay people, when they are in their own environment they do play up a bit, thats their prerogative but they also act very normal and professional when in the company of straight people who they clearly can tell are uncomfortable with gays out of respect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1441611 United States 07/15/2011 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? |
AlmustKnowe User ID: 1452218 Canada 07/15/2011 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SACRAMENTO -- California became the nation's first state to require its public schools to teach students about the history and contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people Thursday. Quoting: TheBrokerThe new law, SB48, was signed by Gov. Jerry Brown today and will take effect in January. "History should be honest," Brown said in a statement. [link to www.ktvu.com] So whats the deal here? "Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and oh, btw, he was gay and liked to dress in womens clothing" Why does this have to even be brought up? I agree. Someone Sexual orientation has no bearing on there notability. They are brainwashing kids to think it okay to be gay. I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342007 United States 07/15/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? No I don't get you... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343616 United States 07/15/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yo mama gave you birth. yo daddy gave the seed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1462726ain't take brains to figure this out. Learn to speak and maybe someone would listen. Must be a down home country boy! Stick to boning your sister and confederate flags. Computers are a little out of your league!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1465660 United States 07/15/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. everything to these brainwashed sheep is hateful .. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1469012 United States 07/15/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? I agree with this (sans the "fag" word). Any historian worth his/her salt will see this as unnecessary details that have no relevancy to the outcome of any major event. The point of history is to gain knowledge of the relevant details on major events in the past. Thats it, no more and no less. |
AlmustKnowe User ID: 1452218 Canada 07/15/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. everything to these brainwashed sheep is hateful .. Free ideas remember? anyone can say what they want. NO matter if it offended you. Are you telling me advocated limited free speech? I suffer from Pronoia I have the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on my behalf. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342007 United States 07/15/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SACRAMENTO -- California became the nation's first state to require its public schools to teach students about the history and contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people Thursday. Quoting: TheBrokerThe new law, SB48, was signed by Gov. Jerry Brown today and will take effect in January. "History should be honest," Brown said in a statement. [link to www.ktvu.com] So whats the deal here? "Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and oh, btw, he was gay and liked to dress in womens clothing" Why does this have to even be brought up? I agree. Someone Sexual orientation has no bearing on there notability. They are brainwashing kids to think it okay to be gay. I remember being taught in history class that some presidents had extra marital relationships.. and some were playboys.. it's relevant because it happened. History is anything that has happened.. Being gay, is being in a minority. It also means that you have to overcome certain challenges in your life and hatred from some people. This helps to form who you are. Of course it's relevant that the artist is gay.. it influenced his life in many way, and that, therfore influenced his artwork. If an artist was treated as an outcast and spat upon for the way he looked or for his beliefs, his whole life, would that be worth teaching when talking about his art? HELL YES, it would.. it gives you an idea of where that person is coming from. The history of how minorites overcome challenges is something that SHOULD be taught. In places that have large number of gay people, of course gay history should be taught. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342007 United States 07/15/2011 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? I agree with this (sans the "fag" word). Any historian worth his/her salt will see this as unnecessary details that have no relevancy to the outcome of any major event. The point of history is to gain knowledge of the relevant details on major events in the past. Thats it, no more and no less. You don't think being gay effects the way someone grows up, they way they form opinions and ideas? Everyone life experiences effect who they are.. this should be obvious.. and therfore the more we teach about an important person, the better incite we have into how they thought and they type of person they were.. The better we can understand why they did the things they did. Drr... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1441611 United States 07/15/2011 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? No I don't get you... Fuckin grow the fuck up! I don't want to think about homosexual acts. Dialog about homosexuality brings the visuals with it. This will happen to the children. Once they are exposed to this information they are no longer children...they are taking on adult information. These children are being robbed of their childhood and innocence. Their minds are being corrupted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1469012 United States 07/15/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? I agree with this (sans the "fag" word). Any historian worth his/her salt will see this as unnecessary details that have no relevancy to the outcome of any major event. The point of history is to gain knowledge of the relevant details on major events in the past. Thats it, no more and no less. You don't think being gay effects the way someone grows up, they way they form opinions and ideas? Everyone life experiences effect who they are.. this should be obvious.. and therfore the more we teach about an important person, the better incite we have into how they thought and they type of person they were.. The better we can understand why they did the things they did. Drr... You're confusing History with Social Science or even to a lesser degree Psychology. Those are the Subjects where you get into the "why" behind what people do. History is JUST about what happened and when. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 955444 United States 07/15/2011 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't talk about Jesus sacraficing his life FOR ALL OF US! Can't pray to him.. NOPE Forbidden! in a public school.. But tell the kids hey its okay if a man sticks his penis in another mans asshole.. SICK..What the hell is wrong with people! Whatever.. liberal causes always have the oppoisite effect.. Kids will laugh and make fun.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342007 United States 07/15/2011 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All history should be taught, truthfully and without bias. End of discussion! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342007Agree! So tell me why sexual preference should be part of the topic... I can understand so and so is a "great artist"...why tell me he/she likes certain sexual preferences and he/she's a fag. It really doesn't add anything to the story of being an artist other than NOW I have the fucking images in my head that I don't want in my head!!!!!!!!!!! Get me? No I don't get you... Fuckin grow the fuck up! I don't want to think about homosexual acts. Dialog about homosexuality brings the visuals with it. This will happen to the children. Once they are exposed to this information they are no longer children...they are taking on adult information. These children are being robbed of their childhood and innocence. Their minds are being corrupted. You saying this "Fuckin grow the fuck up! I don't want to think about homosexual acts. Dialog about homosexuality brings the visuals with it. " Tells me that you are the one who needs to grow up.. Really, you can't talk about homosexuality without envisioning it? You must have very little control over your mind. What about when kids ask where babies come from? Does this make them think of sex and therefore rob them of there childhood and innocence? You really need to open your eyes and mind a bit.. |
FieryFlies User ID: 1331993 United States 07/15/2011 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mods can this thing become unpinned already? I think we're all aware how overrun with religious zealots and small-minded, redneck, bigoted right-wing hate mongers GLP has become. Quoting: True GRiTIn fact, I think I'll make a thread about that. Well Said. I'm fucking appalled at this thread seriously. Trinity did a vote the other day about offending others. This isnt just about being politcally correct, its about pure hatred and ignorant brainwashed religious nutcase Christians who yet again, think the bible was written in Gods exact words. no wonder Muslims fucking hate them so much. You really are disingenuous when you portray anyone who disagrees with the gay lifestyle as ignorant, homophobic and fundamentally Christian - it is their behavior we don't like, the in your face attitude, the acting up at gay prides, don't try to use the straw man argument that we are bigots because we disagree with something that is, and has always been, viewed as unnatural and disgusting. I don't like broccoli, does that make me ignorant and hateful of vegetables? Think carefully about your words. It is hypocrisy at it's finest. If you disagree in the slightest way, you are labeled a bigot. However, those who oppose your opinion are allowed to disregard and insult you with no repercussions. Who is the true bigot in this equation? Heaven forbid you disagree with the gays. . . that by default disregards everything about you and immediately makes you intolerant, a bigot, hateful and cruel. We are not defined by our words, but by our actions. I personally think it's gross, but by no means will I treat people who are different than I any differently than those who hold the same beliefs. That's not how I roll. But no, because I disagree, I'm a bigot. Last Edited by FieryFlies on 07/15/2011 12:27 PM A Stubborn Libertarian. Neither left, nor right, A Proud Texan. Veritas Liberabit Vos. |