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I've wanted to discuss these topics for expanding my knowledge. Is it possible that we can discuss these in a civilized manner, without quoting Bible verses as your proof, and without calling names and being damned into the eternal fires of Hell? LOL I doubt it, but let's try.

Looking at some of research, the Genesis story in the Bible is plagerized from the Sumerian texts. Some bits and pieces may have found it's way into the "Bible," but the Bible does not tell the whole story, nor the "correct" story.

Some say the Sumerian texts are B.S. IF that's true, then some of the Bible HAS to also be B.S., because the Sumerian writings were the basis for the Old Testament, particularly "Genesis," where you find the Creation & Flood Stories. I have no doubt there are even more stories in the Sumerian texts than that, however.

Some ponderings if the Sumerian Texts are correct:

Advanced intelligent entities were here aeons before there were any humans in existance. There was not just one "god" here, there were multiple beings, but they did not ascribe to the title of "god." The word "god" was given to these advanced beings by our ancient ancestors. The old Sumerian texts were manipulated & changed into a political control mechanism after the one some know as "Jesus," was supposedly here. "One" God, was easier to keep track of than multiple gods with different meanings and rituals. Using some of the Pagan belief systems that were popular at the time, ensured that many more people could be controlled. Those Pagan beliefs are distributed throughout the Bible, and most of the Pagan celebration days, have turned into Religious Holidays for people who follow the Christian belief system.

If the Sumerian texts are true, ALL of us, are products of extraterrestrial DNA, which makes us as much of a "demon" as some of you are calling "them." It's amusing when some claim that extraterrestrials are "demons." It's a similar concept how Hitler thought the "Jews" were inferior, only to find out that Hitler also had Jewish blood running through his veins.

IMO, I believe there is an ultimate energy force in this existance that permeates all and everything, and is the reason for all that is. The Sumerian "gods" married and had children, such as we do. They certainly weren't "gods" in any respect, but I do believe there is an ultimate source, which many refer to as "God," but "God" is not a man with white hair sitting up on a cloud somewhere.

The ultimate creator is not what the Bible represents. The Bible is about the advanced beings that were here long ago, who came from another solar system, who our ancient ancestors thought were "gods." Some of them were evil according to the stories in the Bible. If these beings are real, I'd like to think that evolution has raised their conciousness and intelligence at least as much as human conciousness has been raised over the last few thousands of years, and if so and we ever do get to meet them, it will be very different interaction from the old days.

We're not illiterate monkies still living in a cave. The stories from thousands of years ago were written for, and passed on through the ages, for the illiterate and lower intelligences that lived during those times.

Our history is nothing but lies, & our education system is being controlled amoung many other things in our lives. Why does anyone think the Elite system, or "entities" controlling our existance here, have allowed us to know the whole truth... a truth that hasn't been manipulated for "their" benefit?

Common sense says it's ludicrous to think we've been given ANYthing of value from the controllers. They keep valuables to themselves. If there's a true knowledge of God and who we are, they have not allowed us "inferiors" to have it.

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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
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Right off the bat.
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Right off the bat.
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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
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[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

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Dont let the shills get you down.

Read through this thread, yes it is huge! Look for posts by ST in BG.

Has his thoughts about the sumerians etc.

Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 5)
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Or better yet, use this google link.

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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.

So, the Bible and Sumerian texts are two perspectives of events experienced by cultural neighbors and related peoples.

Like you said, your education sucked so you probably aren't able to see this...i understand.

Anyway...I will tell you something...then I'll tell you something else.

God, the word that created you, is a gravitational singularity that is concealed by a 5 dimensional surface which you call space and time; reality, God is wearing us like clothes.

God is infinitely massive, gold in color, shaped like a trapezoid and suspended in what appears to be an eternally blue sky and makes the sound of a trumpet.

Now that I've said this, I'll tell you this...now that you know what God is you'll probably reject it because you didn't want to know, nor do you want anyone to know.
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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
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I'm not trying to do a scientific session here, just some discussion. The information is easily found, if you want to see it. L.W.King is one of the foremost & respected journalists of his time, much earlier than Sitchin.

By the way, not all information is courtesy of Z. Sitchin.
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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.

So, the Bible and Sumerian texts are two perspectives of events experienced by cultural neighbors and related peoples.

Like you said, your education sucked so you probably aren't able to see this...i understand.

Anyway...I will tell you something...then I'll tell you something else.

God, the word that created you, is a gravitational singularity that is concealed by a 5 dimensional surface which you call space and time; reality, God is wearing us like clothes.

God is infinitely massive, gold in color, shaped like a trapezoid and suspended in what appears to be an eternally blue sky and makes the sound of a trumpet.

Now that I've said this, I'll tell you this...now that you know what God is you'll probably reject it because you didn't want to know, nor do you want anyone to know.
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Sorry, they didn't teach about Acadian and Sumerian Histories, nor gravitational singularities at my University. Where did you learn your information?

As I've stated, I want to discuss this...you come in swinging like a bat, and defensive, for what?...not very congenial. If you could take a moment and reread the topic, you'll see that I'm not trying to prove that the Sumerian Texts are correct.

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do you believe there are truths in both the Sumerian texts and the Bible ??
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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.

So, the Bible and Sumerian texts are two perspectives of events experienced by cultural neighbors and related peoples.

Like you said, your education sucked so you probably aren't able to see this...i understand.

Anyway...I will tell you something...then I'll tell you something else.

God, the word that created you, is a gravitational singularity that is concealed by a 5 dimensional surface which you call space and time; reality, God is wearing us like clothes.

God is infinitely massive, gold in color, shaped like a trapezoid and suspended in what appears to be an eternally blue sky and makes the sound of a trumpet.

Now that I've said this, I'll tell you this...now that you know what God is you'll probably reject it because you didn't want to know, nor do you want anyone to know.
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As a matter of fact, I think your information sounds interesting. Why so defensive and combatant? I would really like to discuss this, but only if it can be civil. In nothing I've said above, am I trying to defend or prove the Sumerian texts as correct.

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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.
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it is believed by some that the Akkadians refered to the Sumerians as 'the Shu'
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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
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I'm not trying to do a scientific session here, just some discussion. The information is easily found, if you want to see it. L.W.King is one of the foremost & respected journalists of his time, much earlier than Sitchin.

By the way, not all information is courtesy of Z. Sitchin.
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Thats not source information sorry you fail. You cannot provide a 'source'. Some respected journalist is not a source. Dont ya get? Something like, writings of josephus or other historian or source material. All you got is so and so says it...., you know why no source info exists backing your claim? because its not true. Its a lie.
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Looking at some of research, the Genesis story in the Bible is plagerized from the Sumerian texts.

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consider both texts were 'plagerized' from another....
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sorry OP, but it appears your intent is to discredit the Bible with another written text -- that cannot be done; or i should say: it is impossible to do....

however, with the Bible it is possible to prove the validity of other texts....

'course on a point by point....letter by letter basis....
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do you believe there are truths in both the Sumerian texts and the Bible ??
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Yes, I think there are some truths in the originals of both. I don't believe either have been translated exactly as they were meant, nor passed verbally through time in the way they were first told.

One spoken word can be heard incorrectly, and that can change the whole meaning of a sentence, but I have no argument against the overall message of Good vs Evil.

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I've wanted to discuss these topics for expanding my knowledge. Is it possible that we can discuss these in a civilized manner, without quoting Bible verses as your proof, and without calling names and being damned into the eternal fires of Hell? LOL I doubt it, but let's try.

Looking at some of research, the Genesis story in the Bible is plagerized from the Sumerian texts. Some bits and pieces may have found it's way into the "Bible," but the Bible does not tell the whole story, nor the "correct" story.

Some say the Sumerian texts are B.S. IF that's true, then some of the Bible HAS to also be B.S., because the Sumerian writings were the basis for the Old Testament, particularly "Genesis," where you find the Creation & Flood Stories. I have no doubt there are even more stories in the Sumerian texts than that, however.

Some ponderings if the Sumerian Texts are correct:

Advanced intelligent entities were here aeons before there were any humans in existance. There was not just one "god" here, there were multiple beings, but they did not ascribe to the title of "god." The word "god" was given to these advanced beings by our ancient ancestors. The old Sumerian texts were manipulated & changed into a political control mechanism after the one some know as "Jesus," was supposedly here. "One" God, was easier to keep track of than multiple gods with different meanings and rituals. Using some of the Pagan belief systems that were popular at the time, ensured that many more people could be controlled. Those Pagan beliefs are distributed throughout the Bible, and most of the Pagan celebration days, have turned into Religious Holidays for people who follow the Christian belief system.

If the Sumerian texts are true, ALL of us, are products of extraterrestrial DNA, which makes us as much of a "demon" as some of you are calling "them." It's amusing when some claim that extraterrestrials are "demons." It's a similar concept how Hitler thought the "Jews" were inferior, only to find out that Hitler also had Jewish blood running through his veins.

IMO, I believe there is an ultimate energy force in this existance that permeates all and everything, and is the reason for all that is. The Sumerian "gods" married and had children, such as we do. They certainly weren't "gods" in any respect, but I do believe there is an ultimate source, which many refer to as "God," but "God" is not a man with white hair sitting up on a cloud somewhere.

The ultimate creator is not what the Bible represents. The Bible is about the advanced beings that were here long ago, who came from another solar system, who our ancient ancestors thought were "gods." Some of them were evil according to the stories in the Bible. If these beings are real, I'd like to think that evolution has raised their conciousness and intelligence at least as much as human conciousness has been raised over the last few thousands of years, and if so and we ever do get to meet them, it will be very different interaction from the old days.

We're not illiterate monkies still living in a cave. The stories from thousands of years ago were written for, and passed on through the ages, for the illiterate and lower intelligences that lived during those times.

Our history is nothing but lies, & our education system is being controlled amoung many other things in our lives. Why does anyone think the Elite system, or "entities" controlling our existance here, have allowed us to know the whole truth... a truth that hasn't been manipulated for "their" benefit?

Common sense says it's ludicrous to think we've been given ANYthing of value from the controllers. They keep valuables to themselves. If there's a true knowledge of God and who we are, they have not allowed us "inferiors" to have it.

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I know nothing about this Sumerian thing, I have to be honest, but I do know about the God / alien connection.

Given that we humans can only use a small percentage of our brains as well as our visual potential, why must it be either A or B? Why not at least consider that it may be A AND B and that because of our limited 'ability' to understand, we simply cannot comprehend how it works?

I hope that makes sense. I see some truths in what you said and I see truths elsewhere. Maybe it's time to unite them.

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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.
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it is believed by some that the Akkadians refered to the Sumerians as 'the Shu'
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You are probably right. From memory, I believe Sumer, was originally Shumer. Does that sound right?

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do you believe there are truths in both the Sumerian texts and the Bible ??
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Yes, I think there are some truths in the originals of both. I don't believe either have been translated exactly as they were meant, nor passed verbally through time in the way they were first told.

One spoken word can be heard incorrectly, and that can change the whole meaning of a sentence, but I have no argument against the overall message of Good vs Evil.

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ok, good then....

the primary connection between the Sumerians and the Bible and 'ETs' begins with the alphabet....300
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As with any civilization there will be records of their ancestry and origins . The stories are similar because it is the same story just COMPILED by Moses in a book to the Hebrews .
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The Sumerians lived side by side with the Akkadians; they are contemporaries.

The Akkadians wrote in a language considered by linguists to be the ancestor of the language used to write the bible.
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it is believed by some that the Akkadians refered to the Sumerians as 'the Shu'
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You are probably right. From memory, I believe Sumer, was originally Shumer. Does that sound right?

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yes, but there will always be some 'doubt' -- well, course the phonics of the ancient Sumerian language are described in their texts -- the linguistics are explained
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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470730


I'm not trying to do a scientific session here, just some discussion. The information is easily found, if you want to see it. L.W.King is one of the foremost & respected journalists of his time, much earlier than Sitchin.

By the way, not all information is courtesy of Z. Sitchin.
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Thats not source information sorry you fail. You cannot provide a 'source'. Some respected journalist is not a source. Dont ya get? Something like, writings of josephus or other historian or source material. All you got is so and so says it...., you know why no source info exists backing your claim? because its not true. Its a lie.
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As I told you, I'm not doing a thesis and I'm not going to dig up information for you. That's a waste of time with someone like you. BTW, I'm sure Z. Sitchen did get some things wrong, just like whoever translated the Bible, although, I'm more sure that the bible stories were changed intentionally.

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I'm more sure that the bible stories were changed intentionally.

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yes and no....some were simple 'occidents'

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sorry OP, but it appears your intent is to discredit the Bible with another written text -- that cannot be done; or i should say: it is impossible to do....

however, with the Bible it is possible to prove the validity of other texts....

'course on a point by point....letter by letter basis....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Does not everyone know that the Sumerian Plagues are much older than the writings of the Bible? I wasn't aware that I needed to prove that.

But tell me, since the Sumerian texts were written long before the Genesis story was written, when compared, obviously there were many things changed and left out from the original Sumerian.

I call that plagerization.
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I'm more sure that the bible stories were changed intentionally.

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yes and no....some were simple 'occidents'

:tritoneparadox:
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Yes, I should have used the word "some," sorry.
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STORIES OF A GREAT FLOOD IN OTHER CULTURES' WRITINGS WOULD ONLY SUPPORT THE STORY OF A GREAT FLOOD, DUMBASS!
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sorry OP, but it appears your intent is to discredit the Bible with another written text -- that cannot be done; or i should say: it is impossible to do....

however, with the Bible it is possible to prove the validity of other texts....

'course on a point by point....letter by letter basis....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Does not everyone know that the Sumerian Plagues are much older than the writings of the Bible? I wasn't aware that I needed to prove that.

But tell me, since the Sumerian texts were written long before the Genesis story was written, when compared, obviously there were many things changed and left out from the original Sumerian.

I call that plagerization.
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ah -- you want the 'Beginning'

well -- start here:
:springspring:

use this:
:arkkaim:

and count by 300....

:armillary:

:tevyone:
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sorry OP, but it appears your intent is to discredit the Bible with another written text -- that cannot be done; or i should say: it is impossible to do....

however, with the Bible it is possible to prove the validity of other texts....

'course on a point by point....letter by letter basis....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Does not everyone know that the Sumerian Plagues are much older than the writings of the Bible? I wasn't aware that I needed to prove that.

But tell me, since the Sumerian texts were written long before the Genesis story was written, when compared, obviously there were many things changed and left out from the original Sumerian.

I call that plagerization.
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Youre wrong kid. Or better yet, prove it.
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Right off the bat. How do you know Genesis was plagarized from the sumerian texts and not the other way around?

Before you go any further you should provide Source other than stitchen. You know, broaden your horizons

Stitcheniswrong.com
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stitchen did not 'invent" carbon dating...there fore, if you dis agree with his translation's what does the carbon- dating have to do with it..

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