HOW BANKERS RIGGED THE FIRST AND WORST, GLOBAL FINACIAL COLLAPSE 650 YRS. AGO AND 1/2 WORLDS POPULATION DIED, "THE DARK AGES"

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I'm too damn lazy to read a long post, dissect the information and cross-reference to see if its BS.

"Perhaps today, a parallel to Florence is the city of London and the USA Banking centers"

Quit the propaganda. The entire goal of what's coming is to "blame" the US and the UK for everything, including the Middle East and Israel. Afterwards (in their minds, but not in my mind as hopefully I'll be in Heaven by the Grace of God), "someone" will be blamed and unfortunately, it is QUITE clear that TPTB have determined to make us the scapegoat, the western world, that we'll go down in history as the bad guys and why "democracy" and "freedom" do not work. That we were "war mongers".

Remember this world - the average people in these western nations do NOT want war, only peace. Our inherent nature is to trust others. We have spent years in designed "fear" of losing our homes, our jobs, our livelihoods. Intimidation keeps people silent. Media controlled by others does NOT equate to "freedom" of information. Some group has been conducting a paid, long running mission to DIVIDE everyone; to keep people from the TRUTH.

But have no fear - it is ordained how it will end. Humans following Satan will burn in the lake of fire. They will be destroying this beautiful world for nothing. But the "meek" shall inherit the Earth.

Wouldn't a source link just be "text put onto the internet by god knows"

Wouldn't a book reference just be "text put onto paper by god knows"

U trollin dawg

The Protestant definition of the "dark age" was the period the papal Church banned the Bible and persecuted everyone who rejected their authority. The period was dark due to the light of the word of God was put out. This ended with the Papal States holy roman empire cir. 1798.

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her are the books:

Two recent books help to turn over this cover story, though perhaps that is beyond the intention of their authors. Edwin Hunt's 1994 book The Medieval Supercompanies: A Study of the Peruzzi Company of Florence, establishes that this great bank was losing money and effectively going bankrupt throughout the late 1330s, as a result of its own destructive policies -- in Europe's agricultural credit and trade in particular -- before it ever dealt with Edward III.

``Indeed, the great banking companies were able to survive past 1340 only because news of their deteriorated position had not yet circulated....''

Even if we accept the highest figures ever given for Edward III's 1345 default against the bankers of Florence, the debt to them of the city government of Florence which they controlled, was 35 percent greater, and those bonds also defaulted.

More revealing is the latest work of the historian of Venice, Frederick C. Lane, Money and Banking in Medieval and Renaissance Venice. This work shows that it was Venetian finance which, by dominating and controlling a huge international ``bubble'' of currency speculation from 1275 through 1350, rigged the great collapse of the 1340s. Rather than sharing the peace of mutual greed and free enterprise with their ``allies''-- the bankers of Florence -- the merchants of Venice bankrupted them, and the economies of Europe and the Mediterranean along with them. Florence was the fourteenth century ``New York,'' the apparent center of banking with the world's biggest banks. But Venice was ``London,'' manipulating Florentine bankers, kings, and emperors alike, by tight knit financial conspiracy and complete dominance of the markets by which money was minted and credit created.

As long ago as the 1950s, in fact, one historian Fernand Braudel consciously demonstrated that Venice, leading the Italian bankers of Florence, Genoa, Siena, etc., willfully intervened from the beginning of the thirteenth century to destroy the potential emergence of national governments, ``modern states foreshadowed by the achievements of Frederick II.'' Frederick II Hohenstauffen was the Holy Roman Emperor in the first half of the thirteenth century, an able successor of Charlemagne's earlier achievements in spreading education, agricultural progress, population growth, and strong government. The great Dante wrote De Monarchia in a vain attempt to revive the potential of imperial government based on divine law and natural law, which had been identified with Frederick's reign.

Wrote Braudel:

``Venice had deliberately ensnared all the surrounding subject economies, including the German economy, for her own profit; she drew her living from them, preventing them from acting freely.... The fourteenth century saw the creation of such a powerful monopoly to the advantage of the city-states of Italy ... that the embryo territorial states like England, France and Spain necessarily suffered the consequences.''

In addition to what Braudel shows, Venice intervened to stop the accession of the great Alfonso the Wise of Spain, as successor to Emperor Frederick II.

This triumph of ``free trade'' over the potential for national government, rigged the fourteenth century's global human catastrophes, the worst onslaught of death and depopulation in history. It was not until the Renaissance created the French nation state under Louis XI, 100 years later, and then England under Henry VII, and the Spain of Ferdinand and Isabel, that the human population could recover.

THERE ARE MANY MORE LINKS POSTED IF YOU CARE TO LOOK. DO YOU EXPECT TPTB TO ADVERTIZE. THAT IS WHY THESE 2 BOOKS COST A TOTAL OF $400.

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Millions died but this was spread out over hundreds of years. It was certainly not half the population.

i ALREADY KNOW IT'S TRUE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO FIND OUT IS WAIT A YEAR AND A HALF. THEN THERE WILL BE NO DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MIND THAT IS IF YOU ARE STILL KICKIN.

Last Edited by WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVES on 07/17/2011 02:45 PM

Very interesting read OP. Thanks for sharing.

What can we do in order to thwart the plans of the global elite ?

I believe they estimated, because no one knows for sure that the Black Death killed 30-50% of Europe's population. This is not counting the other causes of death like famine, war, mogul's, etc. But i will check.

Yeah but we have a few things going for us this time.

1) Armed Americans
2) The Internet

With the internet, we all speak the same language. No longer can their "intelligence" create wars out of LIES.

As for the armed Americans....:)

You're going to blame every fatality of the Black Death on economics, the "Lombard Collapse"??

You know if GLP had been around in 1348 many on it would be blaming Teh Jews for poisoning the wells and sacrificing children.

So the banks were at fault for the Black Death?

What about Islam's onslaught on Europe?

I would form small groups like think tanks and discuss it. We humans are very resourceful when the chains of brainwashing and oppression are lifted. We need to give ourselves credit. We are the ones that come up with all the good idea's it's TPTB that pervert and repress them. At least let's go out with a fight and not like sheep.

The black plauge killed a little better than 25 percent of the population in Europe.I am not familar with the global stats,but 50 percent does not seem unreasonable.

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All this economic doom is part of the "create a problem to introduce a solution" thinking by the powers that be (TPTB).

After the economic collapse (the problem), TPTB will introduce monetary RFID chipping to every person (the solution) for controlling the economy so as to keep it from ever having another economic collapse.

Yes, you first heard it here folks, on GLP.

Here's another correlation with our time and the time around 1345.

There were many wars that waged as a result of the House of Valois and House of Plantagenet. The most famous around this time is the Hundred Years War.

The first war to start was the Edwardian War (1337-1360); 8 years before the collapse. If the USA and the world consequently were to collapse this year, it would be 8 years after this whole war on terror started (Mar 16 2003).

Also this conflict stemmed from earlier family roots.

"The background to the conflict is to be found in 1066, when William, Duke of Normandy, led an invasion of England. He defeated the English King Harold II at the Battle of Hastings, and had himself crowned King of England. As Duke of Normandy, he remained a vassal of the French King, and was required to swear fealty to the latter for his lands in France; for a king to swear fealty to another king was considered humiliating, and the Norman Kings of England generally attempted to avoid the service. On the French side, the Capetian monarchs resented a neighbouring king holding lands within their own realm, and sought to neutralise the threat England now posed to France."

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1390's Mongolia bailed on the christian in Egypt.

He talks about that so read it. He sees it more like the Christians onslaught on Islam. But isn't that what they are doing today perverting history like with the fake attack on 911 that is causing the next WW3 and attack on Islam by the U.S. and NATO. I would have to say the west started it. But that depends on who wins and who wrights the history books.

You have to go inside yourself to figure a lot of the stuff out because the amount of disinfo. is vast. What does it appear like to you is going on now? You have to use both your head and your heart my man to figure this out. It's a biggie.

Last Edited by WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVES on 07/17/2011 03:04 PM

you got your pin OPie!!

congrats, this is a facinating topic.

i've been reading about the jesuits recently and they helped make some of this possible.



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Bubonic Plague and warfare depleted the overall population of Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries. France, for example, had a population of about 17 million, which by the end of the Hundred Years War had declined by about one-half.[1] Some regions were affected much more than others. Normandy lost three-quarters of its population during the war. In the Paris region, the population between 1328 and 1470 was reduced by at least two-thirds.

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History tends to repeat itself, those who don't learn from the mistakes of history tend to repeat it. Here we go again, same s**t different year. I'm waiting for what goes around comes around. I won't hold my breath.

Thanks to all of you. Please form small groups to talk about things like this and tell as many people who will listen. Let's show them the human race is getting off it's knees. God Bless all of you.

Thanks you saved me the trouble of more research.

Jews were not running the banks the Templars were, and still are, having only changed their names to numerous other societies. They took over the Vatican at the French Revolution. Napoleon was a mamber of the Freemasons and arrested the Pope and seized the Papal States.

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You forget the role of the remaining East Roman empire, the western Roman Empire wanted the whole power and that is why they created islam, to destroy the East Roman Empire.
islam is a creation of the West Roman Empire, the Vatikan.
Berlusconi is a member of the dragon clan, so many Italian clan are part of the dragon clan. Their symbol is a dragon with a human in its mouth.

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