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this is what the earth sun and moon really look like

 
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Looking at the picture there seems no possible way the sun can rise and set over the horizon.
And the rear facing pictures from the shuttle during launch?
looks like a globe to me mate.
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yeah... but the sun and moon that i showed in the image are like 1 or 2 thousand miles up,not just a little ways...if our earth is a "slightly curved convex disc" then the illusion of the rising and setting sun and moon would actually be, as the image shows,the sun and moon going around in a circle and far away and over the curve just enough so they would seem to be rising and setting
 Quoting: mike 1404503


FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
 Quoting: SickScent


as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
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i have never believed that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away,i think its a lie,the grandest of deceptions,its so bright you cant even look at it and im suppose to believe that its that far away, i dont think so, i try to listen to my inner feelings and they tell me that what we all are "trained" to believe about outer space and the solar system is a lie,started by western civilization and the roman cathlolic church and the evil popes during the middle ages,the same powers that tell us that THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE"LL PUT YOU IN A CAGE OR KILL YOU,and who have started war after war after war in the name of a god that doesnt even exist killing millions in the process,AND IM SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THEM!!!WELL...I DONT!
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i think the same way as you. one telling thing is the angle the sun shines through the clouds. if the sun were 93 million miles away it would be shining almost vertical. yet the sun shines through the clouds at angles that are not vertical.
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Looking at the picture there seems no possible way the sun can rise and set over the horizon.
And the rear facing pictures from the shuttle during launch?
looks like a globe to me mate.
norespect
 Quoting: retral


yeah... but the sun and moon that i showed in the image are like 1 or 2 thousand miles up,not just a little ways...if our earth is a "slightly curved convex disc" then the illusion of the rising and setting sun and moon would actually be, as the image shows,the sun and moon going around in a circle and far away and over the curve just enough so they would seem to be rising and setting
 Quoting: mike 1404503


FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
 Quoting: SickScent


Oh, yeah, and what's underneath it?
 Quoting: SickScent


just a void? or the floor of some super advanced alien scientists laboratory?...we dont know whats at the bottom of the oceans,we dont know whats deep beneath our feet,we cant go to these places...
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yeah... but the sun and moon that i showed in the image are like 1 or 2 thousand miles up,not just a little ways...if our earth is a "slightly curved convex disc" then the illusion of the rising and setting sun and moon would actually be, as the image shows,the sun and moon going around in a circle and far away and over the curve just enough so they would seem to be rising and setting
 Quoting: mike 1404503


FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
 Quoting: SickScent


as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


you can.

without your eyes.
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Ships disappear over the horizion because the Earth is round. If you go higher they reappear. You've obviously never been near an ocean.

The opposite coriolis effect seen in hurricanes in different hemispheres shows the Earth is round.

Orbital mechanics only works because the Earth is round.

If the Earth was flat as you claim you would see a hypothetical flight from Australia to Madagascar take the path following the black line hereand would fly over India
[link to i1182.photobucket.com]

But in reality because the Earth is round they take the shorter red or yellow great circle paths shown here
[link to i1182.photobucket.com]

One can determine the distance to the Moon on their own with geometry. Or they can use HAM radio equipment and use Earth-Moon-Earth bounce communication and figure out the distance with the delay and the speed of light. Both methods show a distance much further than a few thousand miles.

Seismic readings from Earthquakes and how they propagate around the world show the Earth is round.
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no...you could fly in a curve a little to the right and you would miss india altogether and remain over open water
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FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
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as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


you can.

without your eyes.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


Ahhh, of course. How silly of me. So, they are indeed magically hidden from eyesight. So clever.
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I think it's called Zeteticism or something. They only believe what they can see with their own eyes, and because the earth looks flat, it probably is.
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sorry i have a really hard time believing the same people that send us off to die in their oil wars
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as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


you can.

without your eyes.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


Ahhh, of course. How silly of me. So, they are indeed magically hidden from eyesight. So clever.
 Quoting: SickScent


Biology forgot to teach us of our third eye.
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Oh yeah I just remembered.
There are supposed guards protecting the ice wall, willing to shoot anyone who finds out the "truth."

But this could be a comment started by a troll, their forum is completely infested with them lol.
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i have never believed that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away,i think its a lie,the grandest of deceptions,its so bright you cant even look at it and im suppose to believe that its that far away, i dont think so, i try to listen to my inner feelings and they tell me that what we all are "trained" to believe about outer space and the solar system is a lie,started by western civilization and the roman cathlolic church and the evil popes during the middle ages,the same powers that tell us that THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE"LL PUT YOU IN A CAGE OR KILL YOU,and who have started war after war after war in the name of a god that doesnt even exist killing millions in the process,AND IM SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THEM!!!WELL...I DONT!
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i think the same way as you. one telling thing is the angle the sun shines through the clouds. if the sun were 93 million miles away it would be shining almost vertical. yet the sun shines through the clouds at angles that are not vertical.
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It is vertical near the equator. As your country is showing United States, you are NOT near the equator which is why there is an angle.
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Look at the map mike; I flew once from Sydney to Buenos Aires: it took me less than 14 hours. A flight from Vienna to Los Angeles usually takes around 12 hours. It doesn’t add up.

You need help, pronto.

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you need an open mind...you go up....you fly over a gradual curve,for 1 hour or 10 hrs it doesnt matter,you land and take off again and fly back over the curved disc,your still only flying over a gradually curved disc and not going around anything.....and for those that have flown around the earth without ever stopping.....if there are any...you still only flew around a slightly curved flat disc and not around anything round at all...look at the image that i put up its amazing...
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Mike, you are showing clear signs of mental fixation; you don’t even try to reply reasonably, but parroting some nonsense.

I don’t need to rely on science but my own experiences; look at the map – Australia and South America are on opposite sides of it. Thus the journey from Argentina to Australia should last 5 to 6 times as long as from Europe to US; it clearly doesn’t.

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So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


you can.

without your eyes.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


Ahhh, of course. How silly of me. So, they are indeed magically hidden from eyesight. So clever.
 Quoting: SickScent


Biology forgot to teach us of our third eye.
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Yeah, I gotcha. So, this flat world can only be seen with the use of the 3rd eye, otherwise, with our regular perceptions, it appears and acts as if it is spherical. How convenient! That is amazing!
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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol

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Look at the map mike; I flew once from Sydney to Buenos Aires: it took me less than 14 hours. A flight from Vienna to Los Angeles usually takes around 12 hours. It doesn’t add up.

You need help, pronto.

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you need an open mind...you go up....you fly over a gradual curve,for 1 hour or 10 hrs it doesnt matter,you land and take off again and fly back over the curved disc,your still only flying over a gradually curved disc and not going around anything.....and for those that have flown around the earth without ever stopping.....if there are any...you still only flew around a slightly curved flat disc and not around anything round at all...look at the image that i put up its amazing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404503


What's amazing is there are actually people that believe the nonsense you're spewing. But I don't think you do. I think you're a troll and you're just here for "fun".
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troll schmoll...i have an open mind and i present other possibilities that might be true,150 yrs ago they said rocks cant fall from the sky,and if you said they did you were ridiculed
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Ships disappear over the horizion because the Earth is round. If you go higher they reappear. You've obviously never been near an ocean.

The opposite coriolis effect seen in hurricanes in different hemispheres shows the Earth is round.

Orbital mechanics only works because the Earth is round.

If the Earth was flat as you claim you would see a hypothetical flight from Australia to Madagascar take the path following the black line hereand would fly over India
[link to i1182.photobucket.com]

But in reality because the Earth is round they take the shorter red or yellow great circle paths shown here
[link to i1182.photobucket.com]

One can determine the distance to the Moon on their own with geometry. Or they can use HAM radio equipment and use Earth-Moon-Earth bounce communication and figure out the distance with the delay and the speed of light. Both methods show a distance much further than a few thousand miles.

Seismic readings from Earthquakes and how they propagate around the world show the Earth is round.
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no...you could fly in a curve a little to the right and you would miss india altogether and remain over open water
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So you ignore most of the post and give some nonsense about a slight curve to avoid India? Do you see the VAST difference in the lengths of the paths? If the Earth were flat the shortest path would go over India and NORTH of Australia. Since the Earth is really round the shortest path is thousands of miles away and SOUTH of Australia.

What about the rest of the post?
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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol
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So, you are saying I do not have access to my third eye? Interesting....
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Look at the map mike; I flew once from Sydney to Buenos Aires: it took me less than 14 hours. A flight from Vienna to Los Angeles usually takes around 12 hours. It doesn’t add up.

You need help, pronto.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471498


you need an open mind...you go up....you fly over a gradual curve,for 1 hour or 10 hrs it doesnt matter,you land and take off again and fly back over the curved disc,your still only flying over a gradually curved disc and not going around anything.....and for those that have flown around the earth without ever stopping.....if there are any...you still only flew around a slightly curved flat disc and not around anything round at all...look at the image that i put up its amazing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404503


What's amazing is there are actually people that believe the nonsense you're spewing. But I don't think you do. I think you're a troll and you're just here for "fun".
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troll schmoll...i have an open mind and i present other possibilities that might be true,150 yrs ago they said rocks cant fall from the sky,and if you said they did you were ridiculed
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Your mind is so open your brains have fallen out and your "possibilites" are not possible.
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i have this fear ...its called becoming shark bait!
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So, there are ways that you can experience the reality of the earth being a globe, you refuse to experience those things, and refute the words of those that have actually experienced them.

Kind of fucked up.
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you cant prove to me that earth is round ...you cant cuz theres no "SOLID PROOF" only what we adr told to believe
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Yes, I can PROVE it to you. You are just not willing to go out on a boat with me...or travel on a plane.
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look at the image i first put up,your not sailing AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" just ACROSS THE SURFACE IN A CIRCLE a gradually curved convex disc
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Look at the map mike; I flew once from Sydney to Buenos Aires: it took me less than 14 hours. A flight from Vienna to Los Angeles usually takes around 12 hours. It doesn’t add up.

You need help, pronto.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471498


you need an open mind...you go up....you fly over a gradual curve,for 1 hour or 10 hrs it doesnt matter,you land and take off again and fly back over the curved disc,your still only flying over a gradually curved disc and not going around anything.....and for those that have flown around the earth without ever stopping.....if there are any...you still only flew around a slightly curved flat disc and not around anything round at all...look at the image that i put up its amazing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404503


What's amazing is there are actually people that believe the nonsense you're spewing. But I don't think you do. I think you're a troll and you're just here for "fun".
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troll schmoll...i have an open mind and i present other possibilities that might be true,150 yrs ago they said rocks cant fall from the sky,and if you said they did you were ridiculed
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So, you DO THINK IT IS POSSIBLE that the earth is spherical?
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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol
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So, you are saying I do not have access to my third eye? Interesting....
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what I am saying is,

Biology forgot to teach us the real dark age knowledge.

Last Edited by RIGHTEOUS_ on 07/17/2011 04:43 PM
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So, there are ways that you can experience the reality of the earth being a globe, you refuse to experience those things, and refute the words of those that have actually experienced them.

Kind of fucked up.
 Quoting: SickScent


you cant prove to me that earth is round ...you cant cuz theres no "SOLID PROOF" only what we adr told to believe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404503


Yes, I can PROVE it to you. You are just not willing to go out on a boat with me...or travel on a plane.
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look at the image i first put up,your not sailing AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" just ACROSS THE SURFACE IN A CIRCLE a gradually curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


That's the difference there, Mike. I am experiencing my reality, you are looking at an artistic, graphic illustration to 'prove' your reality. You are ignoring your own advice...not to trust what you read or what someone presents to you. THe only way to KNOW is by experience, yet you are too afraid of reality (sharks) to KNOW for yourself.
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Hey mike, fair question this. I haven't visited the forum in 2-3 months.

Has there been any progress in Parsifal's research into the bendy light theory. (He was to release a paper with all his calculations, no?)

I always thought this to be a necessity for the flat earth theory to work.
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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


So, you are saying I do not have access to my third eye? Interesting....
 Quoting: SickScent


what I am saying is,

Biology forgot to teach us the real dark age knowledge.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


So, it is biology that is supposed to teach us reality? I am being facetious, as you know. Problem is, there are different layers in reality, depending on where your focused perception is at the time/place of focus.

We are here in the focus of physical reality, and that dictates a 3 dimensional spatial existence...hence, a spherical earth.

I am sure if you could experience the 4th dimension as physical, the earth would be a Torus.
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So, there are ways that you can experience the reality of the earth being a globe, you refuse to experience those things, and refute the words of those that have actually experienced them.

Kind of fucked up.
 Quoting: SickScent


you cant prove to me that earth is round ...you cant cuz theres no "SOLID PROOF" only what we adr told to believe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404503


Yes, I can PROVE it to you. You are just not willing to go out on a boat with me...or travel on a plane.
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look at the image i first put up,your not sailing AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" just ACROSS THE SURFACE IN A CIRCLE a gradually curved convex disc
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Curved so much it goes all the way around like the globe it is. That's the only way the math for horizon distances works out.
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yeah... but the sun and moon that i showed in the image are like 1 or 2 thousand miles up,not just a little ways...if our earth is a "slightly curved convex disc" then the illusion of the rising and setting sun and moon would actually be, as the image shows,the sun and moon going around in a circle and far away and over the curve just enough so they would seem to be rising and setting
 Quoting: mike 1404503


FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
 Quoting: SickScent


as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


they are thousands of miles away...and you wouldnt see them over the gradual/slight curve of a convex disc
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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


So, you are saying I do not have access to my third eye? Interesting....
 Quoting: SickScent


what I am saying is,

Biology forgot to teach us the real dark age knowledge.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_

Whoa... that tells it all: you’re mentally living the Dark Age when the Earth was still comfortably flat and in the center of the Universe and when heretics daring to doubt in this notion were burned on stakes.

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Some of us could even have more than a million eyes,

and wouldn't even know.

lol
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


So, you are saying I do not have access to my third eye? Interesting....
 Quoting: SickScent


what I am saying is,

Biology forgot to teach us the real dark age knowledge.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


So, it is biology that is supposed to teach us reality? I am being facetious, as you know. Problem is, there are different layers in reality, depending on where your focused perception is at the time/place of focus.

We are here in the focus of physical reality, and that dictates a 3 dimensional spatial existence...hence, a spherical earth.

I am sure if you could experience the 4th dimension as physical, the earth would be a Torus.
 Quoting: SickScent


Diamensions are a lie.

Last Edited by RIGHTEOUS_ on 07/17/2011 06:26 PM
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i have never believed that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away,i think its a lie,the grandest of deceptions,its so bright you cant even look at it and im suppose to believe that its that far away, i dont think so, i try to listen to my inner feelings and they tell me that what we all are "trained" to believe about outer space and the solar system is a lie,started by western civilization and the roman cathlolic church and the evil popes during the middle ages,the same powers that tell us that THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE"LL PUT YOU IN A CAGE OR KILL YOU,and who have started war after war after war in the name of a god that doesnt even exist killing millions in the process,AND IM SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THEM!!!WELL...I DONT!
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i think the same way as you. one telling thing is the angle the sun shines through the clouds. if the sun were 93 million miles away it would be shining almost vertical. yet the sun shines through the clouds at angles that are not vertical.
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good point ...i just always have this bad feeling that something or someone has been deceiving us for a long time
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According to the map, even taking into account your convex curvature theory, You would be able to see the sun at all times the closer you get to the center (North). Like let's say If I'm in Alaska, I'd be able to see the sun all the time.

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Re: this is what the earth sun and moon really look like
stand at the ocean, see the curvature of the earth, and the horizon's end at 11 miles.

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