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this is what the earth sun and moon really look like

 
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but that destroys the hollow earth theory,now i know were all the missing people have gone,they've fallen off over the edge.anyway the sun is so hot and bright,not because it's close,it's because it is big and hot.
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we could still be on the inside.....of something...the round outer earth or something else,something that we probably dont want to know what it really is because it would annihilate our beliefs about what we've been told to believe for so long...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mike, you’re babbling.

Look, if all scientific doctrines are bullshit, then what hold the water on the top of your convex earth and what causes the gravity?

The scientifically established model of solar system corresponds to empirical observations / experiences we have; the model you pulled out of nowhere contradicts them by all means – yet you’re sticking to it blindly. Now, can you tell us what kind of religion / cult are you into, please?

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That model doesn't work.

For one the Sun would in the wrong place of the sky in the different locations.

my "gut" feelings tell me that the sun is probably only a couple of hundred miles across at most and a few thousand miles up,or something like that,
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Why intuate if you can measure?

as a matter of fact theres no one here that can prove that the earth sun and moon "are not" like what this image shows...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Just did.
Only fools make statements about subjects they don't know anything about.

we just obey and automatically believe what we are told like good little sheep,i'm not part of the flock and I HAVE AN OPEN MIND TO ALL POSSIBILITIES>>>NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

You are only expected to learn.
Nobody cares what you believe, if you don't learn you are going to be a shovel pilot for the rest of your life anyway.

99.9 percent of us have no clue at all and know nothing about science....
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Ignorance can be fixed.
Using your ignorance as an argument that those that do know know it wrong is just, well, stupid.

we just do as were told
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Speak for yourself.

and believe what we are told to believe....
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Speak for yourself.

you've been up to the sun lately to see how big and far away it really is???
 Quoting: mike 1404503

I can measure the hight of a church tower without having to climb it.
It is something I've learned. We are clever like that.
And I can proof the method works.

i'm just showing another POSSIBILITY that might be true!
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Your model doesn't match observation.
Unless all people are hallucinating all the time it can not be true.

sorry i have a really hard time believing the same people that send us off to die in their oil wars
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Ad hominem. Directed at the wrong people..
Most people in government don't have a firm grasp on reality, they prefer to make their own.
Very few of them are scientists.

Scientific consensus is not something that is ordained from up high, there is no pope or president of science.
It is the product of open debate, hard cold logic, observations, and repeatable experiments.
And the biggest ego boost in science is proving the other guy wrong.

i have an open mind
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Is open-minded enough to entertain the possibility you have it all wrong.

150 yrs ago they said rocks cant fall from the sky,and if you said they did you were ridiculed
 Quoting: mike 1404503

1794 to be exact.
Bad example.
Rocks can not fall out of the sky was based on a religious/philosophical bias, the spheres are perfect.
It was not a scientific position.
Once they took a serious look at the evidence they were all pretty soon convinced.
In science only the evidence matters.

Now, don't you think you should take a serious unbiased look at the evidence.

look at the image i first put up,your not sailing AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" just ACROSS THE SURFACE IN A CIRCLE a gradually curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503

How does this Flat Earth of yours fool inertial trackers?
book

You don't understand history. It was the popes and the catholic church who believed in a flat earth, and killed anyone who said the earth was spherical.
 Quoting: 1FutureMarine1

B.S.
The church always supported Aristotelean geocentricism, with a spherical Earth.
Nobody educated has believed the Earth is flat in over 2,000 years.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


i didnt say the popes,"who use to rule the world,thank napoleon for stopping that bulls@#t!",thought the world was flat they thought the earth was the CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE...
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Mike, did you ever consider that you might be insane?
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or so intelligent and open minded that i seem that way....i deny nothing
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mikey, mikey you’re so "open minded" that the common sense and reason fell out of it.


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Mike, did you ever consider that you might be insane?
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or so intelligent and open minded that i seem that way....i deny nothing
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mikey, mikey you’re so "open minded" that the common sense and reason fell out of it.


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cruise
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The Shadow of the Moon is the Dark Side
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you Read fRom the:

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Say, its only a paper moon
Sailing over a cardboard sea
But it wouldn't be make-believe
If you believed in me

Yes, it's only a canvas sky
Hanging over a muslin tree
But it wouldn't be make-believe
If you believed in me



 Quoting: Factual Error


as idle as a painted ship upon a painted ocean, water water everywhere without a drop to drink...water water everywhere and all the boards did shrink....................NO ONE CAN PROVE THE EARTH IS REALLY ROUND < IT CANT BE DONE > NO ONE CAN PROVE THE SUN IS 93,000,000 miles away...TRY TO, YOU CANT>>>I CAN AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO COUNTER ANY ARGUMENT THAT SAYS THEY ARE>>>ive been doing just that for the last 3 or 4 hrs.....
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Aren't their sites that are for gaming and roll playing??

why do you folks feed this troll...He is obviously institutionalized and his handlers are not watching him closely...

Nice game though...How you learned how to escape from a strait jacket with that mind is beyond me...
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its not south or north or whatever... its the edge,we dont know,the behavior of light in this model,especially when all other existing factors that would be present in this model are factored in, a few of which that i could think of i have mentioned throughout...
 Quoting: mike 1404503


ok..explain LUNAR eclipses with this model then, where in this model, can the moon be shadowed by the earth?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: MrKarmacanic


if the moon went behind the gradual curve of the convex earth model as well as perhaps behind the glacial outer edge,this would create the shadow of a lunar eclipse...
 Quoting: mike 1404503


if the moon went behind the gradual curve of the earth then it would disappear from view , not enter a shadow.
Also, antartica's coastline would equal the circumference of the earth, but it doesnt cos the circumference of the earth is a shade over 40,000km whereas the coastline of antartica is 17968km

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to geography.about.com]
 Quoting: MrKarmacanic


do you see the moon or the sun all the time? no, so every day they do disappear from view
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one of my points is this...just go outside and look at the sun,you can really get a GOOD look at it by looking through welding glasses,i cannot believe and i dont believe that that F@#@#R just hanging up there in the sky in front of me is 93 million miles away!.....no F@#@#@G way,.....its 93 million miles away and you cant even look at it properly ?!?!?!never mind figure out how far away it is...we are being deceived...as usual...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Who cares what you refuse to believe out of some deep dark psychological motivation.

You haven't provided one iota of evidence that the rest of us are wrong.

We have provided evidence that we are right.

End of discussion.
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Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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i have never believed that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away,i think its a lie,the grandest of deceptions,its so bright you cant even look at it and im suppose to believe that its that far away, i dont think so, i try to listen to my inner feelings and they tell me that what we all are "trained" to believe about outer space and the solar system is a lie,started by western civilization and the roman cathlolic church and the evil popes during the middle ages,the same powers that tell us that THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE"LL PUT YOU IN A CAGE OR KILL YOU,and who have started war after war after war in the name of a god that doesnt even exist killing millions in the process,AND IM SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THEM!!!WELL...I DONT!
 Quoting: mike 1404503


i hear you. i don't necessarily support flat earth , hollow earth and other fringe theories, yet I don't believe in the official theory by a large margin. i have my own theory of what "outer space" really is.

one very good reason for why there is such an overwhelming propaganda about the "outer space" is that it keeps the population focused on a hypothetical & external matters instead of deeper personal concerns within their immediate reality. in other words, it's another way to entrap the human mind to keep it looking for the truth outside of spirit / soul / being... "The truth is out there" is the motto behind the Astronomy Propaganda.

but when everyone believes in something with all their might and some will even work to generate "evidence" to support their spineless claims, you are fighting a lost battle. Spirituality has a lot do with finding out the truth and then shutting your mouth because you eventually learn that most people couldn't care less about it. The truth is unconstitutional -- to careless speak about it is to ask to be jailed or killed.
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but that destroys the hollow earth theory,now i know were all the missing people have gone,they've fallen off over the edge.anyway the sun is so hot and bright,not because it's close,it's because it is big and hot.
 Quoting: pauldamo


we could still be on the inside.....of something...the round outer earth or something else,something that we probably dont want to know what it really is because it would annihilate our beliefs about what we've been told to believe for so long...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mike, you’re babbling.

Look, if all scientific doctrines are bullshit, then what hold the water on the top of your convex earth and what causes the gravity?

The scientifically established model of solar system corresponds to empirical observations / experiences we have; the model you pulled out of nowhere contradicts them by all means – yet you’re sticking to it blindly. Now, can you tell us what kind of religion / cult are you into, please?

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the frozen glacial edges contain the oceans!?...all through history what science told everyone was truth was sooner or later proven wrong,just like what we are force fed will some day be proven to have been false...
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lol...looking thro the flat earth pics i found this..sums up this thread

[link to media.photobucket.com]

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Aren't their sites that are for gaming and roll playing??

why do you folks feed this troll...He is obviously institutionalized and his handlers are not watching him closely...

Nice game though...How you learned how to escape from a strait jacket with that mind is beyond me...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471638


a troll i'm not ...your branding me because i offer a different point of view ?! and does it fracture your beliefs?!
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i have never believed that the sun is 93,000,000 miles away,i think its a lie,the grandest of deceptions,its so bright you cant even look at it and im suppose to believe that its that far away, i dont think so, i try to listen to my inner feelings and they tell me that what we all are "trained" to believe about outer space and the solar system is a lie,started by western civilization and the roman cathlolic church and the evil popes during the middle ages,the same powers that tell us that THIS IS THE WAY IT IS AND IF YOU DISAGREE WE"LL PUT YOU IN A CAGE OR KILL YOU,and who have started war after war after war in the name of a god that doesnt even exist killing millions in the process,AND IM SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE THEM!!!WELL...I DONT!
 Quoting: mike 1404503


i hear you. i don't necessarily support flat earth , hollow earth and other fringe theories, yet I don't believe in the official theory by a large margin. i have my own theory of what "outer space" really is.

one very good reason for why there is such an overwhelming propaganda about the "outer space" is that it keeps the population focused on a hypothetical & external matters instead of deeper personal concerns within their immediate reality. in other words, it's another way to entrap the human mind to keep it looking for the truth outside of spirit / soul / being... "The truth is out there" is the motto behind the Astronomy Propaganda.

but when everyone believes in something with all their might and some will even work to generate "evidence" to support their spineless claims, you are fighting a lost battle. Spirituality has a lot do with finding out the truth and then shutting your mouth because you eventually learn that most people couldn't care less about it. The truth is unconstitutional -- to careless speak about it is to ask to be jailed or killed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471808


well said...the truth or the possibility of another truth really does hurt.....ridicule,violent opposition,acceptance,all things follow this course
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but that destroys the hollow earth theory,now i know were all the missing people have gone,they've fallen off over the edge.anyway the sun is so hot and bright,not because it's close,it's because it is big and hot.
 Quoting: pauldamo


we could still be on the inside.....of something...the round outer earth or something else,something that we probably dont want to know what it really is because it would annihilate our beliefs about what we've been told to believe for so long...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mike, you’re babbling.

Look, if all scientific doctrines are bullshit, then what hold the water on the top of your convex earth and what causes the gravity?

The scientifically established model of solar system corresponds to empirical observations / experiences we have; the model you pulled out of nowhere contradicts them by all means – yet you’re sticking to it blindly. Now, can you tell us what kind of religion / cult are you into, please?

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the frozen glacial edges contain the oceans!?...all through history what science told everyone was truth was sooner or later proven wrong,just like what we are force fed will some day be proven to have been false...
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Now comes the Question:

Why do they Lie to us ?????????????????????????????????????
If you Read RIGHTEOUS WoRds,
you Read fRom the:

fRom: The TRee of Lie ]WoRd[

I AM the (RIGHTEOUS CHRIST RIGHTEOUS GOD CREATOR GOD WORD GOD
CREATOR RIGHT WORD GOD

MARYAGES

Every Eye See.

More FiRe`

JUDGEMENT
(Ascension fuel)


GOD ALL MIGHTY.
MOST HIGH GOD.
FOR EVER.
dont let them get you

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hey mike are you related to punisher?
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Now comes the Question:

Why do they Lie to us ???
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_

A good question! Even better would be why are dimwits buying into such idiotic lies like OP’s convex earth theory?

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Now comes the Question:

Why do they Lie to us ?????????????????????????????????????
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


something evil wants us to feel really small and helpless,the same something that has trapped our souls in this materialistic illusion,they may also work hand in hand with the shadow governments of the world force feeding us their lies....go out and look at the sun,later in the day of course, so it doesnt blind you...theres no F#####G way i'm gonna believe that its 93,million miles away...i dont think so and i'm not afraid to go against the majority and say so..
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Now comes the Question:

Why do they Lie to us ???
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_

A good question! Even better would be why are dimwits buying into such idiotic lies like OP’s convex earth theory?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1471498


gradually curved,convex disc,earth...
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How do eclipses occur?
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How do eclipses occur?
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ive answered this above through out ,look at the image i posted on the top of page one, the moon and sun still pass in front of eachother,depending on where you are is what kind of eclipe you'll see, eclipses are rare and are only visible for short periods of time and are only seen in small areas at a time not all over the place at once
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I agree with the OP. But he does not go far enough. And posters cry show me proof.

Do you know what proof is?


Historically There has always been proof of whatever the rulers insisted the truth was. Scientist are just lawyer for the establishment.Do you really believe that scientist seek to unlock the "truth"?

A lawyer through clever manipulation can "prove' just about anything. The higher his fees the more he is capable of proving.

What you are really saying is "convince me!"


Do You really believe that todays scientific view is the "truth"!That somehow our generation is uniquely closer to the "truth"?
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Why do they Lie to us ?????????????????????????????????????
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


something evil wants us to feel really small and helpless,the same something that has trapped our souls in this materialistic illusion,they may also work hand in hand with the shadow governments of the world force feeding us their lies....go out and look at the sun,later in the day of course, so it doesnt blind you...theres no F#####G way i'm gonna believe that its 93,million miles away...i dont think so and i'm not afraid to go against the majority and say so..
 Quoting: mike 1404503


They tried to fool us now for years.

They have not succeeded,

just yet.



For we still know the old ways,

of how this Universe,

and Earth got Formed.
If you Read RIGHTEOUS WoRds,
you Read fRom the:

fRom: The TRee of Lie ]WoRd[

I AM the (RIGHTEOUS CHRIST RIGHTEOUS GOD CREATOR GOD WORD GOD
CREATOR RIGHT WORD GOD

MARYAGES

Every Eye See.

More FiRe`

JUDGEMENT
(Ascension fuel)


GOD ALL MIGHTY.
MOST HIGH GOD.
FOR EVER.
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so we could be living on a disc, with an engine. so the aliens live underground. Every now and then the pull people down to feed off. We could be their endless supply off food. The sun and moon created to sustain their food. Mind control from them and a deal with the elite. bastards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366745


^^^this person is thinking outside the box^^^
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so we could be living on a disc, with an engine. so the aliens live underground. Every now and then the pull people down to feed off. We could be their endless supply off food. The sun and moon created to sustain their food. Mind control from them and a deal with the elite. bastards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366745


oh my god! ive been so pshchic all my life and when i first read this^^^ i got the weirdest feeling, a very ominous and forboding feeling...your on to something,i know you are... the truth!
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^^^this is outside the box^^^the box that is made out of denials and filled with lies, into which most of us are stuffed
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but that destroys the hollow earth theory,now i know were all the missing people have gone,they've fallen off over the edge.anyway the sun is so hot and bright,not because it's close,it's because it is big and hot.
 Quoting: pauldamo


we could still be on the inside.....of something...the round outer earth or something else,something that we probably dont want to know what it really is because it would annihilate our beliefs about what we've been told to believe for so long...
 Quoting: mike 1404503

Mike, you’re babbling.

Look, if all scientific doctrines are bullshit, then what hold the water on the top of your convex earth and what causes the gravity?

The scientifically established model of solar system corresponds to empirical observations / experiences we have; the model you pulled out of nowhere contradicts them by all means – yet you’re sticking to it blindly. Now, can you tell us what kind of religion / cult are you into, please?

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the frozen glacial edges contain the oceans!?...all through history what science told everyone was truth was sooner or later proven wrong,just like what we are force fed will some day be proven to have been false...
 Quoting: the 1404503


^^^^^THIS^^^^^
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it is weird how on some days you can see the moon and on the opposite side you can see the sun

from a flat earth perspective its easily possible to understand but from a round view it gets harder to imagine

also, the in the flat earth view, the sun is a lot smaller, so therefore, it would not be daylight always because the furthest away place from the sun, has lots and lots of atmosphere before it and the sun, thus the sun would be blocked.
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Now comes the Question:

Why do they Lie to us ?????????????????????????????????????
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


something evil wants us to feel really small and helpless,the same something that has trapped our souls in this materialistic illusion,they may also work hand in hand with the shadow governments of the world force feeding us their lies....go out and look at the sun,later in the day of course, so it doesnt blind you...theres no F#####G way i'm gonna believe that its 93,million miles away...i dont think so and i'm not afraid to go against the majority and say so..
 Quoting: mike 1404503


anyone try it^^^ with an open mind?..F@#@#D up...isnt it!!
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FFS, OK, then Mike, what happens when you get to the edge? (This is so stupid)
 Quoting: SickScent


as the image shows...walls or mountains of ice...we dont travel "AROUND ANYTHING ROUND" when we sail on the ocean for instance we are sailing around the flat/slightly curved convex disc
 Quoting: mike 1404503


So, I guess the mountains of ice are hidden? If the earth is flat, we should be able to see them in the distance, from any high vantage point in the world.

Correct? (I am using your logic)
 Quoting: SickScent


you can.

without your eyes.
 Quoting: RIGHTEOUS_


I think everyone just clawed their eyes out after reading this thread - I mean that in good, playful humor of course. This is GLP after all.beat_plast

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