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I am a time traveler from the year 2020......

 
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Evolution change and hope never come easy or cheap, no they come at great cost. A cost which only few are willing to pay ....

If one can shake the earth and its foundation why not?

The greatest fear of this world is the true, and you know why?

Because you can't handle the true! !!!!

And that my darlings is reality....





Today's thoughts Pandora's Box
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Op sup with your book? How are things?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43252400


The book has 148000 words and is 261 pages long...I wrote the book on a different language to protect the manuscript....The problem with that is that it probably it will take 2 to 3 years translate everything... I try to use a computer to do it but it can't do it the structure and expression of the words is too complex for the computer to do it properly, so I will have to do everything my self...

I am somehow think that destiny is conspiring against me to prevent the release of this book, because I think is not its time yet... when the moment arrives for it to be in the public eye. I belive synchronicity will play its part to make it very easy for me to achieve my dream of publishing this book...

Thanks for asking Croatia.
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There are some predictions from Nostradomus that India will be super power and man from India will rule the world. Is it true?

If not do you see India safe during those days of war, epidemics and economic collapse?


Who will be the next Prime Minister of INDIA?
 Quoting: meher


I have spoken about India before ....

Yes there will be problems with a pandemic that will arise from China and destroy many lifes in India and the world.... Your economy will not collapse but it will not have the growth the government expects...If the Indian government is not careful there can be a conflict with Pakistan..Always show restraint, that is not a sign of weakness but of strength....

Do not desire for any nation to be a superpower for that is a thinking of the old world... instead in your hart and mind seek the good and the peace of the whole world as better true and something to aspire too...
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When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violence? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concern with the total understanding of mankind.

Jiddo Krishnamurti



Beautiful, beautiful words my brother..If I had an army of people like you, the world could be transform in an instant ...

But the army of such minds most be build first...You are a man of the future and not of the past...free from the chains of ignorance which is the true causation of our current world situation....The illusion will soon be ended..
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You are one people, one world, one humanity... This is a true which religions and governments around the planet don't want you to know, because at the moment you all realize this, all this misery and violence which plagues this world ends together with this obsolete governments and blind religions..


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pandora what is your opinion on astana, the capital of kazachstan?

there are rumours it will be the new head quarter for the so called elites. maybe after america and europe are fallen?


Thread: Huge devil pentagram in Kazakhstan (Google Maps)
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pandora what is your opinion on astana, the capital of kazachstan?

there are rumours it will be the new head quarter for the so called elites. maybe after america and europe are fallen?


Thread: Huge devil pentagram in Kazakhstan (Google Maps)
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Hi Belgium....


Well let me just tell you that most of the elite that currently control the nations of the world are going to be destroy within the next seven years.....The new world has nothing to do with the current structures of power that exist now...The power of the new world arises from the regular people of the world once they become awake ...

The one world government will be constituted of 7 super states, each super state is a continental government... This seven super states have no autonomy of their own they are like today the states that exist in a country, for example USA has 50 states... The one world government will have 7. The seven states represent a planetary country... The capital of this brave new world order will be located where the world leader is at any especific moment.. So for instance if he goes to visit Astana or Europe or Asia or any other place, that is where the world capital is.... The world director physical presence represents the capital of the world .
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one hand, one heart, one soul...
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Coincidence I am a time traveller from 1963 ...........[/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] ...........Doh !!!!!!!!!!
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There is a news from NASA that there is going to be a huge solar flare in short time. Do you see it happen? will it affect the lives of earth? Can it affect the volcanoes and earthquakes? They also say that earth may face with severe famine.

Thread: very huge coronal hole towards earth

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This is bullshit roleplay, there won't be such a thing as a huge solar storm hitting earth, pandora is just a tard who seek attention and fans
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What is your "name"?
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My name is the I am that knows the I am, therefore I am....
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Didn't get enough attention from your Mama growing up?
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The highest reasoning is simplicity itself, and the greatest power is nothingness, for within nothingness lays all possibilities...

If you have nothing to lose than you have everything to gain....




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The highest reasoning is simplicity itself, and the greatest power is nothingness, for within nothingness lays all possibilities...

If you have nothing to lose than you have everything to gain....




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 Quoting: Pandora's Box 8678400

Why don't you answer some questions instead of giving us mumbo jumbo like this
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Sache que l'union fait la force, mais que la misere la divise, chacun sa mafia chacun sa mille-fa, meme l'etat fonctionne comme ca.
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To Pakistan and India:

You need to be cautious in regards to how you speak and act with one another. You need to restrain your selfs for the good of you both.... A war between you two will leave thousands of Pakistanis and Indians death and will waste millions of dollars that can be use for the good of the poor on both sides.... I dont want to predict if there will be a war between you two because I am afraid that if I said there might be one, I am some how will increment the chance of that happening.... This is why I am leaving it as an open possibility that if you dont show compassion and restraint to one another there will be a conflict... I want to think that this outcome can be change this is why I dont want to give you a prediction....

Be good to one another as two nations and work together for the good of both, please be careful....

From your friend Pandora's Box
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Prepare your innermost chamber. Calculate the number of Love:)


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Op was caught an the beginning of this thread commenting in other ones like a regular folk.

He's not what he claims to be.

This thread is a lie since the very title.
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An opinion doxa is simply like a shit shit with legs, nothing, but it makes us react. If the people were speaking on the basis of his knowledge the acoustic quality best. To speak for speaking without knowing anything, the new mode of the ephemeral existence, the stupidity a sentence. Nobody knows the future and the news misinforms 99 % But the ego you will stronger though it is a mirage in your desert life.
Love,play,work and do not try demostrate your idiotic wishes.
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MY INPUT, AND I HAVE READ A GOOD PART OF THE POSTS. THE MAN SURE ( MAKES TOTAL SENCE TO ME. MY POINT, THE ADVICE THAT CERTAINLY CAN AND WILL HELP ONE OUT. THATS SIMPLY MY INPUT, BUT IF YOU ROLL LIKE HE DOES, ( HIS WAYS SURE CAN AND WILL HELP YOU THRU OUR DAILY MATTERS....PA.
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Pandora what do you think of this movie?



Everybody is a nobody

Time to unite!
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Pandora what do you think of this movie?



Everybody is a nobody

Time to unite!
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Is Interesting

For a long time only a small group of powerful people were able to control the massage and the perception of reality for the majority, because they were the only ones that could get their massage through the television.... Now thanks to the invention of the internet even the smallest among us can speak and give its opinion to the world. This possibility opens the Pandoras box because it permits new ideas and new ways of thinking to flow to the entire world... The internet overthrows the dictatorship of the few to the possibility of the many to be hear ... this is indeed a new world order and each of you is a potential of change no matter how small you imagine yourself to be....

Now the play field is even and the ones with the merit of good actions and best ideas wil receive the attention of the world, and they will gain the power to shape it and change it for the better...
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How can we bring true order into the world? By first bringing order within ourselves. The entire world is in chaos, because our mental interiors are in chaos....

The imaginary separation that you think exist between the world and you is only an illusion and you can't live your life base on an illusion, but if you do the conditions of this collective reality should remind, and your suffering will not cease..... You are the world and the world is within you, remember this and act accordingly! !!



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Pandora's Box correctly called that Romney would be the 2008 Republican presidential nominee and that Obama would win the 2008 presidential election. Also, that nothing major would occur up to 2013.

Pandora's Box called for a stock market crash and dollar collapse for 2013. We will see if this happens but right now conditions are ripe for a stock market crash. The stock market margin debt is higher than 2.25% of GDP and this has only occurred in 1929 when the stock market crashed, 2000 when we had the dot com bubble bust, 2007 when we had the start of the crash that culminated in September of 2008 and now this year 2013. Looks like the retail investor is very bullish so is borrowing on margin to buy stock which from a contrarian perspective is very bearish. Also we have a cluster of Hindenberg omens which portend a possible correction.

The Fed is currently buying $45 billion in mortgages per month to help the housing market and bail the banks from their bad mortgages and is buying $40 billion per month in US Treasuries to help the US federal government finance it's $1.3 TRILLION ANNUAL BUDGET DEFICIT. But it's talking about tapering these purchases which would mean less buying of mortgages and US Treasuries. That would likely mean higher interest rates which would be negative for bonds, stocks and real estate. If the market believes the Plunge Protection Team is backing off supporting the stock market, then this will trigger a sell-off which is what happened when Bernanke hinted at tapering the stimulus. According to the BIS there are $600 TRILLION in derivatives ($441 TRILLION is interest rate derivatives where banks have likely bet on lower interest rates to help governments finance their debts at lower rates). If interest rates rise quickly this will mean huge losses for financial institutions that bet on lower interest rates and many may go bust. Lawmakers this time around will not bail out banks but will bail in bank depositors. Bank deposits will be considered unsecured loans by depositors so be careful about having a lot of dollars in banks or you may be lose it like in Cyprus. If foreigners start selling their Treasuries and the Fed is not their to buy them then interest rates will rise and the dollar may go down thus fulfilling Pandora's Box's predictions.

We'll see what happens but things are nicely set up for Pandora's Box to be right again. And if he is right, then you might want to count on the economic collapse prediction for 2016 he spoke about.

But remember the "nobody" one world leader trying to lead us to a one world order and one world currency is probably the antichrist so please don't follow the antichrist because following will lead you to hell. Whoever takes the mark of the beast on their right hand or forehead so they can buy or sell will experience the wrath of Yahu!

Pandora's Box says he is not Illuminati but calls himself an "illuminated one" which is exactly what Charlotte Hamlett, ex-Illuminati, says the Illuminati call themselves. It's Alumbrados in Spanish, Illuminati in Italian(?) and "illluminatied ones" in English but they all have the same meaning in their respective language.

Pandora's Box is likely right that this world is an illusion since it's the spiritual world that is the true reality. But Pandora's Box is incorrect when he says there is nothing after death because only the body dies but the spirit lives on. We pre-existed before we incarnated in this world and we will exist after we exit this physical plane, but we will all need to give an account of our lives to God so live holy and wisely!
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The Destruction of the Christian Church

I've heard a couple of Illuminists speak of how the Christian church will be destroyed. How can they know this is going to happen? I believe it's because they've correctly interpreted Revelation 17 to be about the whore, meaning the Christian churches which includes Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, maybe even Jewish, which will be destroyed.

I know this may offend many Christian, Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox but I will try to explain. First, no religion is blameless before God.

The Jews correctly know they are to keep Torah but they rejected Yahshua the Messiah. The Tanakh clearly states that Shiloh will come before scepter departs from Judah. Rabbis correctly understand that Shiloh refers to Messiah. The scepter clearly departed from Judah by 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and dispersed the Jews among the nations. Therefore, Messiah must have come by 70 AD yet Jews say Messiah has not come. God gave the Jews many clues after Yahshua was sacrificed that He was not longer pleased with their sacrifices. The should have known they missed the Messiah at that point. Daniel told the Jews how many years after the decree when out to rebuild Jerusalem there would be before the Messiah would be cut off but the Jews didn't listen with their ears that they might turn and be healed. Even today some high level Jewish rabbis know that Yahshua is the Messiah but will not tell their congregants for fear of violence among the Jews when Yahshua is revealed as their Messiah. Their was a highly esteemed rabbi who died and disclosed the name of the Messiah, Yahshua, in an acrostic and yet how many Jews believed? The Jews do not believe in their Messiah and this is why Satan defeated them in 70 AD and scattered them. Sin opens up people and nations to Satanic attack and judgment through these demonic principalities.

Catholics have their long list of errors including selling indulgences for salvation when salvation is through faith in Yahshua and repentance. Catholics call their pastors "Father" when Yahshua says to call no one Father but God. Catholicism denies the Melchizedek priesthood of all believers, says Mary was sinless when Scripture teaches all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but Yashua, has Mary as a co-redeemer when we are saved not by Mary but by the blood sacrifice of Yahshua, call Mary a mediator when Scripture teaches that God appointed Yahshua as the only mediator between God and man, teaches man to bow down before statues of saints when Scripture teaches to not bow down or worship idols, says popes are infallible when Popes have contradicted each other, teaches priests and popes are not to marry when Peter was married, killed saints who read and had a Bible, killed millions through the inquisition, failed to prosecute child molesting priest but rather sent them to other parishes to molest children there, teach that the pope can change God's laws when Torah is clear that no one is to add or take away from God's commands, teaches that the Sabbath has been changed to Sunday when they had no authority to change it, teaches people to pray to the dead saints when Messiah made a way to pray to the Father directly and communication with the dead is prohibited. For these sins and more the Catholic church has opened up itself to judgment from Yahu!

And Protestants are not without their load of sin. Protestants teach that "once saved, always saved" yet if you take the mark of the beast the Scripture is quite clear you will face the wrath of God even if you call yourself a Christian, and the Scriptures clearly teach that "those who endure to the end will be saved" and Yahshua in Revelation clearly threatens to blot people's name from the Book of Life and spit out the lukewarm and these are not idle threats from the Head of the church. Protestantism teaches a pre-tribulation rapture when Yahshua in Matthew 24 says that "AFTER THE TRIBULATION the Son of Man will come in the clouds" and send out His angels to gather the elect from the earth (i.e. the rapture). The Protestants keep Sunday as the Sabbath because the emperor Constantine changed it to Sunday but Sunday is not the Sabbath. God's day is not from midnight to midnight but from morning to morning and God's Sabbaths are celebrated evening to evening. Protestants do no keep Yahu's moedim or appointed times such as Sabbaths, New Moons, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles. They celebrate none of God's appointed times but celebrate at least 3 of 8 Wiccan/witches Sabbats in modified form: Halloween is based on Druid witches Samhain festival, Easter is based on a pagan fertility goddess and Christmas is based on the Roman Saturnalia which celebrates the birthday of the sun god, Sol Invictus / Mithras. Even Valentine's day is likely based on Lupercalia, a fertility festival. Was there ever a pagan holiday that the Roman Catholic Church did not love to incorporate? This is more easily understood if you understand that Catholicism was a hybird amalmagation of Mithraism and the true faith so it correctly teaches that Yahshua is the Messiah but incorporate Mithraic traditions. Protestants also teach that the Mosaic Law/Torah has been done away with when Yahshua says that not one dot or tittle of the Torah will by no means pass away until heaven and earth pass away and that won't happen until after the Messianic 1,000 year reign. So Protestants disregard circumcision, kosher laws, having a beard, keeping Sabbath, New Moon and the festivals and countless other Torah laws. The Scriptures teach that the prophets and apostles are the foundation of the church and above pastors but pastors do not let the prophets and apostles in thus denying God's order within the church. Many say there are no longer prophets yet God says He will do nothing without first revealing His secrets to the prophets. The churches have placed themselves under government control by becoming 501C3 corporations when the church should only be under the guidance of Yahu! In Scripture, the early church spoke in tongues and know this is rarely seen except in Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. The Protestants also usually teach against the doctrine of pre-existence even though God says He chose us before the foundation of the world.

Just as Judah was judged in 70 AD because the Pharisees and Saducees rejected the Messiah and His teachings so likewise in this end of the age, God has sent His Elijah to restore all things and He and His teachings will be rejected by the Christian church of this day and this country will be destroyed by a Russian/Chinese nuclear attack and invasion. And the whore church will be judged with fire, for rejecting the Messiah, for rejecting Elijah, for not keeping God's commandments/Torah, for not keeping any of the appointed times of God, but keeping the festivals of witches, for having a form of godliness but lacking the power of God, for rejecting the prophets and the apostles, for teaching the pre-tribulation rapture lie which will lead to the 5 virgins not being prepared for the groom Messiah and all it's other sins.

The Christian Church is in a coma from which few will awaken from. In these coming times of great darkness God will put on the most amazing display of glory through His man-child and they will lead many to righteousness. If this registers in your spirit then study and keep Torah and listen to the prophets so you may prosper. I recommend looking into Tom Deckard, John Paul Jackson, Neville Johnson, John Koyle, Dumitru Duduman, E.R. Lindsey, Sarah Menet's NDE vision of the future. I have tried to shorten your learning curve by teaching many of the things I have learned. Those who worship Yahu in spirit and are seekers of truth will know what to do from here.

Carpe Diem!
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Pandora what do you think of this movie?



Everybody is a nobody

Time to unite!
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To Followers of Yahu and Yahshua the Messiah:

After the money system falls and/or economic collapse, many people will be angry because of their loss of wealth and there will be much civil unrest leading eventually to a civil war within America. Try NOT TO PARTAKE IN THE CIVIL UNREST AND CIVIL WAR. You have a right to self-defense but I strongly recommend not partaking in the civil unrest and civil war. If you prepare ahead of time by having long lasting food, dehydrated food, MREs, gravity water filter, bottled water, guns, ammo, silver and gold coins, having little dollars in financial institutions like banks and brokerages, being out of bonds and stocks, being out of the cities if at all possible then if the stock market crashes, banks and brokerages close, dollar is devalued or capital controls are put in place so you can't get your money out, you won't be badly hurt and won't be as angry as you have been if you had not prepared. During Yahshua's time, Yahu Elohim was not pleased with the Zealots who were creating civil unrest.

Yes, we are in a police state where the NSA has all your emails, texts, cellphone calls, landline calls, web searches, GPS position through cellphone and OnStar in your car, can listen in on your cell phone even if it's off, is likely spying on you through camera and voice receiver on your HDTV through the cable, knows all your bank, brokerage, credit card and debit card transactions, where you've travelled to, all your friends and family through facebook, phone records and other social media, profiled you through your web searches and purchases, has eliminated Posse Comatitus so they can place US army troops on the streets, enacted Patriot Act so they can search everything about you without warrants which is against the constitution, enacted NDAA so they can arrest you without Habeaus Corpus, will likely try to take your guns and restrict your freedom of speech in the future and continuing in the Nazification of America and is preparing to turn on Christians. Yes all this is true but I still recommend harming no one and avoiding the civil unrest and civil war which are coming. If your life is in danger call on angels in the name of Yahshua ha Maschiach to defend you as you are serving Yahu Elohim.

Take heed these words:

Revelation 13:9-10
King James Version (KJV)
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
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Prediction for the near future verse 1 (NWO)

And the last I am through mellow words clear vision of purpose and supernatural magnetism gain the world and all it's might... Nations and their governments were no more, for he defeat it them in the great war....
In those years the world teacher turn his eyes upon the Christian Church and all her sects and saints. And with great power of perfection he brought her to her knees.... No angel, or Jesus Christ, or demon, not even Satan himself could save her at that moment and she soon was no more....

And for a time the world plead and cry for her return, but she was never found again...

And for the first time in world history, humanity experience great piece and relief, it was as if a great weight was remove from humanity shoulders....

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Prediction for the near future verse 1 (NWO)

And the last I am through mellow words clear vision of purpose and supernatural magnetism gain the world and all it's might... Nations and their governments were no more, for he defeat it them in the great war....
In those years the world teacher turn his eyes upon the Christian Church and all her sects and saints. And with great power of perfection he brought her to her knees.... No angel, or Jesus Christ, or demon, not even Satan himself could save her at that moment and she soon was no more....

And for a time the world plead and cry for her return, but she was never found again...

And for the first time in world history, humanity experience great piece and relief, it was as if a great weight was remove from humanity shoulders....

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Revelation 17 King James Version

17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:


A woman is often used to represent a church. Roman Catholic Church popes, bishops and priests use purple and scarlet in their attire and the RCC is quite rich.

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

How is the Roman Catholic Church a harlot? She pledge her fidelity to Yahshua the Messiah but brought in pagan festivals like Halloween based on Druid witches Samhain festival, Christmas based on Roman Saturnalia and the Easter festival based on a pagan fertility goddess. I've heard that they would put the god's of native Mexican Indians in statues of saints to get them to pray to the saints. They encourage communication with dead saints which is forbidden and have people bow down before idols in the form of statues of saints. The origin of Catholicism is based on the Mithraic religion that was dominant in Rome.

And the Roman Catholic Church is not only a harlot for pledging her fidelity to Yahshua but committing fornication with paganism, but furthermore is a Mother of Harlots because she passed this pagan practices to all the denomination of Protestantism and possibly even Orthodox Christianity. So Protestantism in all it's denominations and possibly Orthodoxy are daughters of the harlot.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

The Roman Catholic Church martyred millions of people during the Inquisition which I believe lasted for centuries. Among those martyred where those who had Bibles and studied the Bible and had faith in Yahshua. So the RCC fits this description of the Harlot.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


The beast may represent the Roman kingdom which was, but is not anymore, and yet will come again with the antichrist as it's leader and support from the false prophet.

If the beast represents the antichrist, then it may mean the antichrist will be Nimrod, who was, is not and will be again if he is brought back to life somehow. Just a speculation I am unable to prove.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

It's well known Rome sits among seven hills.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

There have been 6 world kingdoms in Scripture: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar, Medo-Persia, Greece under Alexander the Great (these 5 have fallen), Rome (this one is at the time Revelation was written) and the coming antichrist kingdom (which is not yet come) that will last 7 years and therefore continues for a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


These 10 horns can be 10 European nations who give their power to the antichrist assuming the antichrist kingdom is a revived Roman empire. If the antichrist kingdom is an Islamic caliphate then it could represent 10 Muslim nations. Or the ten kings can represent 10 intra-national states like the European Union, African Union, South American Union, North American Union and so on. I present these as possibilities but lean toward a 10 nation European Union as the antichrist kingdom with the false prophet being the Roman Catholic pope based on Chuck Youngbrandt and Dumitru Duduman prophesies.


13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.


These ten horns/kings give their power to the antichrist kingdom so it's the antichrist that is behind the destruction of the Roman Catholic whore and it's Protestant and Orthodox whore daughters.

This would indicate the world leader, the nobody, the "the last great iam" which Pandora's box says will destroy the Christian churches is the antichrist or possibly the false prophet. Do you really want to follow this world leader who will be destroyed at the end and end up in the lake of fire?

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Pandora's Box is right - no one will be able to save the Harlot church because it is God's will that she suffer judgment. Satan and his demons and followers will be used to execute judgment on the harlot and what Yahu Elohim has willed to destroy no one and I mean no one can stop it's destruction - not even Satan, not even demons, not even this world leader antichrist!

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
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In those years the world teacher turn his eyes upon the Christian Church and all her sects and saints. And with great power of perfection he brought her to her knees.... No angel, or Jesus Christ, or demon, not even Satan himself could save her at that moment and she soon was no more....
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It’s about time that the pedophile priest; dirty, unholy church is removed from the face of the earth.

I look forward to that day.
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How to Distinguish antichrist from Yahshua the Christ

Someone mentioned to me that this world leader that Pandora's Box mentions has a lot in common with Yahshua the Messiah. Well, Satan always tries to mimmick God so it shouldn't be surprising that the antichrist world leader would have much in common with Yashua the true Christ/Messiah. Both will be world leaders, world teachers, rebuild civilization (antichrist after WW3, Yahshua after Armageddon). But it is important that you be able to tell them apart because you don't want to follow the antichrist to the lake of fire thinking he is Yahshua the Messiah.

The antichrist will have the support of 10 kings and rule for 7 years. In the middle of the 7 years, antichrist will enter a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and declare he is god and put and end to the sacrifices and make it mandatory every one have the mark of the beast on their right hand or forehead to be able to buy or sell. The Great Tribulation is the last 3.5 years where antichrist supported by the false prophet will try to kill all the followers of Yahu Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah.

After the 7 years of antichrist reign, the last 3.5 years being the Great Tribulation, Yahshua the Messiah will come in the clouds and at the 7th and last trumpet, send out his angels to gather the elect, that is the rapture, with the dead in Messiah rising first, then those who are Messiah's alive on earth are taken up in the air, bodies transformed to meet Messiah. Then they go to Armageddon, Yahshua and tens of thousands of his saints, to defeat the armies invading Israel, and Yahshua sets his feet on the Mount of Olives.

Now remember that Yahshua will NEVER tell you to disobey Torah and all of God's commandments. The antichrist at one point will in all likelihood disobey Torah and teach others to disobey Torah. Yahshua will never deny that Yahu is Father God and is to be obeyed in all, that Yahshua is King of kings and Lord of Lords. The antichrist may say otherwise. This in and of itself should probably be enough for you to tell the difference and not be deceived.

Now Satan is the father of lies and is very clever in deception. To deceive the world, Satan may try to make it look like the antichrist is Yahshua returning to earth. The Blue Beam Project will put up holographic images up in the sky so that it looks like Yahshua is returning to earth, and send low frequency messages that penetrate the brain as thoughts to everyone in their own languages telling them this is the Messiah returning. Then all they need is some Middle East war where Israel wins (Psalm 83 or Ezekial 38 war) and have the antichrist there coming down on the Mount of Olives possibly being beamed down from a UFO and Satan can deceive the whole world that the antichrist is the Christ. Deceive everyone except those whose names are written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world.

So understand the antichrist comes first, before Yahshua and will be the destroyer of the Christian churches, will lead a 10 nation or 10 intra-nation union, will likely tell you to disobey Torah and will likely teach to disobey Torah. Yahshua will come in the clouds AFTER the 7 year reign of antichrist, will raise the dead first and those alive on earth who are his, then proceed to fight Armageddon and land on Mount of Olives.

So even if Satan is successful in pulling off the Blue Beam Project deception to make it look like antichrist is coming in the clouds, raises the dead and some on earth go into the sky to meet him and lands on the Mount of Olives, I strongly doubt that Satan would be able to have another world leader come before antichrist who rules for 7 years and in the middle of the seven enters a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem claiming he is God, stopping the sacrificing and instituting the mark of the beast. So Blue Beam Project should not be able to deceive you, because you will not likely have seen a world leader ruling for 7 years meeting all those criteria. But even Satan's deception is that good, antichrist will not teach you to keep Torah and keep the testimony of Yashua the Messiah. So that's how you can stop from being deceived.

What I find interesting is that Pandora's Box told you to research Blue Beam Project which is not what I would think an Illuminati member would do since it exposes Satan's deception. So is Pandora's Box really Illuminati or perhaps the guy behind the CHANI project or someone else? He does encourage people to follow this coming world leader who I believe is the antichrist but on the other hand is warning you about the Blue Beam Project. If he is Illuminati, I would warn him that Satan, the antichrist and false prophet end up in the lake of fire. There are many who have left the Illuminati including John Todd, Charlotte Hamlett, Svali and others by professing professing faith in Yahshua the Messiah and repenting of their sins. If he's in the Illuminati I would encourage him to do likewise. But he may not be Illuminati since he warned about the Blue Beam Project so hopefully he will desist from promoting this world leader whom I suspect is the antichrist. But it may just be part of his role-playing to get the information out there. Maybe to him the message is what is important not whether he is a time traveler or Illuminati, though I sincerely hope he is not Illuminati and if he is, he repents of it.

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