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I am a time traveler from the year 2020......

 
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Here is Scriptural evidence that antichrist will lead ten nations, enter temple and declare he is god, stop the sacrifices, demand people take the mark of the beast on their right hand or forehand if they want to buy and sell, persecute and murder saints for 42 months during the Great Tribulation.

And that Yahshua the Messiah will come after the tribulation, in the clouds, at the seventh and last trump, raise the dead in Christ and those who are his on earth, by sending his angels to gather the elect, and they will meet Messiah in the air and proceed to fight Armageddon and Yahshua will land on the Mount of Olives.



Keep Torah, all of the commandments of God.
antichrist will not keep Torah nor teach you to keep Torah.


Matthew 5:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Ten kings will serve the antichrist kingdom.

Revelation 17:12-13 King James Version (KJV)
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.


antichrist will enter (rebuilt) temple (in Jerusalem) and declare he is god.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
King James Version (KJV)
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


antichrist after 3.5 years of making a 7 year covenant will stop the sacrifices in the temple and do the abomination that causes desolation which may be when declares that he is god in the temple of Yahu God.

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.



antichrist and the false prophet will implement the mark of the beast which people must take on their right hand or forehead if they wish to buy and sell.

Revelation 13:11-18 King James Version (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.





antichrist rules for 42 months or 3.5 years during the Great Tribulation and persecutes the saints of God during this time. antichrist will speak against Yahu God and desires to be worshipped like God.

Revelation 13:4-8 King James Version (KJV)
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.




The rapture happens at the last (seventh) trump and the dead in Christ are raised first, then those who His alive on earth.

1 Corinthians 15:51-54 King James Version (KJV)
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.


Yahshua comes in the clouds after the tribulation and sends his angels to gather the elect (the rapture). There will be many false Christs and false prophets. If someone tells you the Christ is here or there do not go see him for Yahshua will come in the clouds after antichrist has ruled for 7 years, the last 3.5 years which are called the Great Tribulation where he goes wild in murdering the saints of God.


Matthew 24:3-39 King James Version (KJV)
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


Yahshua will fight the battle of Armageddon when all nations come against Jerusalem and he will set his feet on the Mount of Olives.

Zechariah 14:1-9 King James Version (KJV)
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
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How to Distinguish antichrist from Yahshua the Christ

So understand the antichrist comes first, before Yahshua and will be the destroyer of the Christian churches, will lead a 10 nation or 10 intra-nation union, will likely tell you to disobey Torah and will likely teach to disobey Torah. Yahshua will come in the clouds AFTER the 7 year reign of antichrist, will raise the dead first and those alive on earth who are his, then proceed to fight Armageddon and land on Mount of Olives.


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The Antichrist does not come first. He comes second.

Alas, the future will play out as it will.

Christians believing the good person is the Antichrist. While the is-lam know he is neither.
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How to Distinguish antichrist from Yahshua the Christ

So understand the antichrist comes first, before Yahshua and will be the destroyer of the Christian churches, will lead a 10 nation or 10 intra-nation union, will likely tell you to disobey Torah and will likely teach to disobey Torah. Yahshua will come in the clouds AFTER the 7 year reign of antichrist, will raise the dead first and those alive on earth who are his, then proceed to fight Armageddon and land on Mount of Olives.


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The Antichrist does not come first. He comes second.

Alas, the future will play out as it will.

Christians believing the good person is the Antichrist. While the is-lam know he is neither.
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My friend, the antichrist does come first before Yahshua. Yahshua comes AFTER THE TRIBULATION in the clouds and then establishes the 1,000 year Milennial kingdom. This is according to the Bible.

Perhaps you do not accept the Scriptures as true even with all the prophesies in it that have come true. But if you accept the Scriptures as true then it's quite clear the antichrist comes before Yahshua returns.

I've wondered why so many people are enamored with this nobody, world leader who wants a new world order. They seem mesmerized by this nobody antichrist. Yet the antichrist and those that follow him will end up in the lake of fire.

I know probably most will go astray and follow the antichrist rather than follow Yahshua. I hope and pray they don't go astray for the sake of their souls and yet I know that the gate to destruction is wide and the gate to righteousness and salvation is narrow and few enter through it.
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I read the scripture many times. And I didn't say that Christ comes before antichrist. I am just saying there is a good person that is neither of them that comes first.
1. Please reread Revelations
2. If you are very sure that you understand the revelations, please answer the following questions:
3. How many bad people are mentioned in the Revelations? What evil things did those bad people do?
4. How can so many people be tricked by the False Prophet when the Bible is so straightforward?
5. What evil things did the First Beast do?


Many shall be tricked. For they believe the church, the convention understanding and the media. Few look into their heart and read the Bible for themselves. Very few understand the real teachings of Yeshua. That is why Bible says the path to Heaven is very narrow.
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It's important that people know that the antichrist:
- rules 10 kingdoms which will go against the harlot churches
- makes a covenant for 7 years
- in the middle of the covenant enters the temple of God (presumably rebuilt and in Jerusalem) and declares he is god and stops the sacrifices
- implements the mark of the beast so no one can buy or sell without it
- desires to be worshipped as god and speaks blasphemies against the true god
- persecutes the saints of God for the last 3.5 years of his 7 years which is called the Great Tribulation.

Then after the tribulation Yahshua the Messiah returns in the clouds at the seventh and last trumpet, sends his angels to gather the elect (i.e. the rapture), with the dead in Messiah being resurrected first and then those who are on earth who are Messiah's being resurrected, and they go into the air to meet Messiah and are transformed/resurrected in the twinkling of an eye, then Messiah and ten thousands upon ten thousands of his saints go and fight at Armageddon and Yahshua lands on the Mount of Olives and defends Israel.

Now the nobody that Pandora's Box talks about is a world leader, who many occultists follow, who will destroy the Christian churches, who he calls the "last great iam" which indicates the nobody is god since "i am" references in Hebrew the name of God. This nobody also wants a one world currency and one world government which he will lead and will make many positive changes to the world just like Hitler did before his true colors showed. Well, all these characteristics of the nobody are the same characteristics of the antichrist which is why I believe the nobody Pandora's Box speaks of is the antichrist. For the antichrist will be a world leader who is inspired by Satan so many occultists/Satanists will follow him, who will go into the temple of Yahu God and claim he is god when he is not, and the 10 kings that follow him will help destroy the harlot Christian churches and the antichrist and false prophet will persecute and murder the true saints of God in the Great Tribulation which is the last 3.5 years after antichrist goes into the temple and declares he is God.

Why will so many be deceived? So many people are selfish and evil and really don't love Yahu God or want to serve him. Even Christians don't know the Scriptures well. And if the Blue Beam Project is played out then many will be deceived. And the false prophet will do many miracles and wonders so many will be deceived because they will not verify that the false prophet teaches according to God's word which he will not since he will make people bow down before the image of the beast which is idolatry. So many people don't want to serve Yahu Elohim and does that do many are ignorant and don't keep Torah and may be swayed by miracles without the truth of God's word.

Now God does have his own "nobody", namely the last day Elijah who will restore all things. He will teach that we must return to keeping Torah. Most Christians will not listen to him and even persecute his followers. And God will judge those Christians who go against His Elijah or his followers. And Elijah for the most part will be rejected by those who say they love Yahu even though Elijah is sent by Yahu. Just like the church of his time rejected Yahshua, the church of this time will reject Elijah and his teachings. But this Elijah will not claim to be God, or lead the world, or persecute the church even though the churches reject him and he will teach people to keep Torah, not disobey it. So God has his own "nobody", the last day Elijah, but the crowds won't be mesmerized by him like they are by antichrist. Yet truth tends to itself and will be unshakeable to the very end.
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Sarah Menet's Vision of the Last Days

I'd encourage everyone to read the contents of the link below.

[link to www.scribd.com]

Pandora's Box, I believe Sarah Menet's NDE vision to be prophetically true. It covers events that will likely happen after 2020 which is why you may not know about them.
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Good article on the financial mess and how higher interest rates can prick the interest rate derivative bubble, cuase hyperinflation in currencies, deflate the stock market and real estate market and the coming monetary reset to asset backed currencies with a financial world body regulating currencies. PMs may provide wealth preservation.


Thread: The Grand Finale: We Are Now Witness To The Death Throes of Fiat! Renewed Relevance Because It's On Like Donkey Kong!!!
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It's important that people know that the antichrist:
- rules 10 kingdoms which will go against the harlot churches
- makes a covenant for 7 years
- in the middle of the covenant enters the temple of God (presumably rebuilt and in Jerusalem) and declares he is god and stops the sacrifices
- implements the mark of the beast so no one can buy or sell without it
- desires to be worshipped as god and speaks blasphemies against the true god
- persecutes the saints of God for the last 3.5 years of his 7 years which is called the Great Tribulation.

Then after the tribulation Yahshua the Messiah returns in the clouds at the seventh and last trumpet, sends his angels to gather the elect (i.e. the rapture), with the dead in Messiah being resurrected first and then those who are on earth who are Messiah's being resurrected, and they go into the air to meet Messiah and are transformed/resurrected in the twinkling of an eye, then Messiah and ten thousands upon ten thousands of his saints go and fight at Armageddon and Yahshua lands on the Mount of Olives and defends Israel.

Now the nobody that Pandora's Box talks about is a world leader, who many occultists follow, who will destroy the Christian churches, who he calls the "last great iam" which indicates the nobody is god since "i am" references in Hebrew the name of God. This nobody also wants a one world currency and one world government which he will lead and will make many positive changes to the world just like Hitler did before his true colors showed. Well, all these characteristics of the nobody are the same characteristics of the antichrist which is why I believe the nobody Pandora's Box speaks of is the antichrist. For the antichrist will be a world leader who is inspired by Satan so many occultists/Satanists will follow him, who will go into the temple of Yahu God and claim he is god when he is not, and the 10 kings that follow him will help destroy the harlot Christian churches and the antichrist and false prophet will persecute and murder the true saints of God in the Great Tribulation which is the last 3.5 years after antichrist goes into the temple and declares he is God.

Why will so many be deceived? So many people are selfish and evil and really don't love Yahu God or want to serve him. Even Christians don't know the Scriptures well. And if the Blue Beam Project is played out then many will be deceived. And the false prophet will do many miracles and wonders so many will be deceived because they will not verify that the false prophet teaches according to God's word which he will not since he will make people bow down before the image of the beast which is idolatry. So many people don't want to serve Yahu Elohim and does that do many are ignorant and don't keep Torah and may be swayed by miracles without the truth of God's word.

Now God does have his own "nobody", namely the last day Elijah who will restore all things. He will teach that we must return to keeping Torah. Most Christians will not listen to him and even persecute his followers. And God will judge those Christians who go against His Elijah or his followers. And Elijah for the most part will be rejected by those who say they love Yahu even though Elijah is sent by Yahu. Just like the church of his time rejected Yahshua, the church of this time will reject Elijah and his teachings. But this Elijah will not claim to be God, or lead the world, or persecute the church even though the churches reject him and he will teach people to keep Torah, not disobey it. So God has his own "nobody", the last day Elijah, but the crowds won't be mesmerized by him like they are by antichrist. Yet truth tends to itself and will be unshakeable to the very end.
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So how many bad people are there? One? The Antichrist? There is no mentioning of Anti Christ in Revelations. There is 1st beast and 2nd beast(False prophet). The dragon. Antichrist was mentioned in John and people just make lazy connections.
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Malaysia AC,

You say "I am just saying there is a good person that is neither of them that comes first."

First, no one is good but God.

Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Second, there are billions of people who are neither Yahshua nor the "man of sin, son of perdition" if you prefer that instead of calling him antichrist. You clearly have someone in mind so why not say what is on your mind and provide Scriptural/historical support for what you say so others can test the spirits and learn.

You say there is this certain person who is neither antichrist nor Yahshua but you do not say who he is or how he is relevant. You say the church has gone astray but do not give examples of this nor back it up Scripturally. So this is all very mysterious and tantalizing but not really edifying because I've learned nothing. So I encourage you to be more specific and support what you say from Scripture/history.

I didn't just say the harlot church was going to be judged for its sin, I actually listed many examples where the harlot church has strayed and Scriptural reasons why it was an error.

I didn't just give my opinion that Pandora's Box nobody is likely the antichrist, but gave many similarities between them. I didn't just tell you about Blue Beam Project but told you Satan could deceive people with it and based on Scripture how you could avoid being deceived.

So I hope you will also be more specific and give supporting evidence for what you have to say.

You have many questions for me. But why not rather say what you want to say and back it up. I'm focused on what I want to say and don't like to be distracted unless it pertains to what I want to accomplish. Please keep that in mind if I don't reply to your questions. No offense is intended but there are many tangents that would take me away from accomplishing my goal.
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"... Poisons will embrace the Earth, as the passionate lover. And in deadly embrace, heavens will find death breath, and in water sources will be bitter, and many of these waters will be more poisonous rotten snake blood. People will die of water and air, but they will speak have died of heart and kidneys... And bitter waters will infect time, as marks for bitter waters will generate bitter times..."

fukushima?

"... Any revolution wishes to break slavery chains but when these chains are broken, another ones already ready. Since cave times nothing has changed and never will change, because the most artful, frequently the most corrupt always will impose himself to others. And depending on mood of the people, he will put on himself dictatorship or democracy clothes. But the person always will be the slave even if imagines that is free... Once, maybe, and to revive the free person, but the people always will be the slave".

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propecies of rasputin
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Malaysia AC,

You say "I am just saying there is a good person that is neither of them that comes first."

First, no one is good but God.

Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Second, there are billions of people who are neither Yahshua nor the "man of sin, son of perdition" if you prefer that instead of calling him antichrist. You clearly have someone in mind so why not say what is on your mind and provide Scriptural/historical support for what you say so others can test the spirits and learn.

You say there is this certain person who is neither antichrist nor Yahshua but you do not say who he is or how he is relevant. You say the church has gone astray but do not give examples of this nor back it up Scripturally. So this is all very mysterious and tantalizing but not really edifying because I've learned nothing. So I encourage you to be more specific and support what you say from Scripture/history.

I didn't just say the harlot church was going to be judged for its sin, I actually listed many examples where the harlot church has strayed and Scriptural reasons why it was an error.

I didn't just give my opinion that Pandora's Box nobody is likely the antichrist, but gave many similarities between them. I didn't just tell you about Blue Beam Project but told you Satan could deceive people with it and based on Scripture how you could avoid being deceived.

So I hope you will also be more specific and give supporting evidence for what you have to say.

You have many questions for me. But why not rather say what you want to say and back it up. I'm focused on what I want to say and don't like to be distracted unless it pertains to what I want to accomplish. Please keep that in mind if I don't reply to your questions. No offense is intended but there are many tangents that would take me away from accomplishing my goal.
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When the time comes, you will realize why this good person is of importance. Because he is the key to the sequence.
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The Four Sore Judgments of Yahu Elohim
Famine, Plague, Wild Animals, and War

Yahu Elohim uses the 4 sore judgments of famine, plagues, wild animals and war to judge disobedient and rebellious nations.

Ezekiel 14:21
“For this is what the Lord God says: How much worse will it be when I send My four devastating judgments against Jerusalem—sword, famine, dangerous animals, and plague—in order to wipe out both man and animal from it!

In the 4th seal of Revelation these 4 judgments are used to kill a fourth of the earth's population.

Revelation 6:7-8
7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” 8 And I looked, and there was a pale green horse. The horseman on it was named Death, and Hades was following after him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and by the wild animals of the earth.

Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 speak of Torah/covenant keeping nations and the blessings for keeping Torah/covenant and the curses for disobeying Torah, that is breaking the covenant. The USA and Israel are nations that have made a covenant with Yahu Elohim. The USA has broken that covenant with its wickedness and now will face judgment. Lev 26 speaks of a 7 of famine and drought, a 7 of plague and wild animals, then a 7 of war/sword with famine and plagues and finally a 7 of captivity. I believe these 7's are 7 years so I'm expecting 28 years of judgment of captivity. This sequence of judgment could be stopped by national repentance from the leaders on down, such as Ninevah repented before Jonah. Unfortunately, based on prophecies such as those of Chuck Youngbrandt, I don't believe America repents until it's received the full sequence of the four 7 year judgments of famine, plagues and wild animals, sword with famine and plague, and captivity.


Leviticus 26:14-46
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14 “But if you do not obey Me and observe all these commands— 15 if you reject My statutes and despise My ordinances, and do not observe all My commands—and break My covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will bring terror on you—wasting disease and fever that will cause your eyes to fail and your life to ebb away. You will sow your seed in vain because your enemies will eat it. 17 I will turn against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee even though no one is pursuing you.

18 “But if after these things you will not obey Me, I will proceed to discipline you seven times for your sins. 19 I will break down your strong pride. I will make your sky like iron and your land like bronze, 20 and your strength will be used up for nothing. Your land will not yield its produce, and the trees of the land will not bear their fruit.

21 “If you act with hostility toward Me and are unwilling to obey Me, I will multiply your plagues seven times for your sins. 22 I will send wild animals against you that will deprive you of your children, ravage your livestock, and reduce your numbers until your roads are deserted.

23 “If in spite of these things you do not accept My discipline, but act with hostility toward Me, 24 then I will act with hostility toward you; I also will strike you seven times for your sins. 25 I will bring a sword against you to execute the vengeance of the covenant. Though you withdraw into your cities, I will send a pestilence among you, and you will be delivered into enemy hands. 26 When I cut off your supply of bread, 10 women will bake your bread in a single oven and ration out your bread by weight, so that you will eat but not be satisfied.

27 “And if in spite of this you do not obey Me but act with hostility toward Me, 28 I will act with furious hostility toward you; I will also discipline you seven times for your sins. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons; you will eat the flesh of your daughters. 30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and heap your dead bodies on the lifeless bodies of your idols; I will reject you. 31 I will reduce your cities to ruins and devastate your sanctuaries. I will not smell the pleasing aroma of your sacrifices. 32 I also will devastate the land, so that your enemies who come to live there will be appalled by it. 33 But I will scatter you among the nations, and I will draw a sword to chase after you. So your land will become desolate, and your cities will become ruins.

34 “Then the land will make up for its Sabbath years during the time it lies desolate, while you are in the land of your enemies. At that time the land will rest and make up for its Sabbaths. 35 As long as it lies desolate, it will have the rest it did not have during your Sabbaths when you lived there.

36 “I will put anxiety in the hearts of those of you who survive in the lands of their enemies. The sound of a wind-driven leaf will put them to flight, and they will flee as one flees from a sword, and fall though no one is pursuing them. 37 They will stumble over one another as if fleeing from a sword though no one is pursuing them. You will not be able to stand against your enemies. 38 You will perish among the nations; the land of your enemies will devour you. 39 Those who survive in the lands of your enemies will waste away because of their sin; they will also waste away because of their fathers’ sins along with theirs.

40 “But if they will confess their sin and the sin of their fathers—their unfaithfulness that they practiced against Me, and how they acted with hostility toward Me, 41 and I acted with hostility toward them and brought them into the land of their enemies—and if their uncircumcised hearts will be humbled, and if they will pay the penalty for their sin, 42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob. I will also remember My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. 43 For the land abandoned by them will make up for its Sabbaths by lying desolate without the people, while they pay the penalty for their sin, because they rejected My ordinances and abhorred My statutes. 44 Yet in spite of this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject or abhor them so as to destroy them and break My covenant with them, since I am Yahweh their God. 45 For their sake I will remember the covenant with their fathers, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their God; I am Yahweh.”

46 These are the statutes, ordinances, and laws the Lord established between Himself and the Israelites through Moses on Mount Sinai.
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Causality effect detected. Thread: THE CONFIDENTIAL MEMO AT THE HEART OF THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS

Word use "Pandora" in "Pandora's box conscious reversal" on 07/19/2011 08:09 match to "The new FSA pulled the lid off the Pandora’s box of worldwide derivatives trade" on 08/22/2013 07:56

Timelapse: 2 years, 1 month 3 days 23 hours 13 minutes

Timeline alteration to 2020 detected.

Probability of favorable outcome 12%

Conflicting events attempting parity to change.

- War in Syria up +8% probability
- War with Iran up +3% probability
- President Obama Impeachment down -4% probability
- Gov. Chris Christie GOP nominee for 2016 up +2% probability
- Sen. Ted Cruz GOP nominee for 2016 up +6% probability
- Financial global crisis up +11% probability
- Major California earthquake unchanged probability

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Three Examples of Elohim Judging a Nation That Broke a Covenant with Him

After Kind David passed away, his son Solomon became king of Israel. King Solomon built the first temple in Jerusalem and was given great wisdom and riches by Yahu Elohim. King Solomon received tribute from many nations and made treaties with them and married the daughters of many kings. Unfortunately, just as King David had committed adultery with Bathsheba and schemed to have her husband killed, King Solomon also sinned in the area of woman. It is forbidden to marry a non-Israelite woman because she may not worship Yahu and she will lead her husband's heart astray. All these foreign wives that King Solomon had led his heart away from serving Yahu Elohim with his whole heart. Because of this after King Solomon passed away, Yahu spit the kingdom of Israel into the southern kingdom, which King Solomon's son ruled over which is called Judah consisting of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and some Levites and the northern kingdom consisting of the other 10 tribes which is called Israel.

Jereboam, leader of the ten tribes of northern Israel was afraid of having the people go to celebrate Yahu's appointed festivals in Jersualem because he was afraid they would join the kingdom of Judah and defect. So Jereboam made golden bulls as gods I believe and appointed his own priests and not Yahu's appointed Levite priests. Jereboam sinned greatly in this and in 722 BC I believe, Yahu Elohim sent the Assyrian army to invade Israel and conquer the Israelites. The 10 tribes were scattered throughout and many today who are of these 10 tribes no longer realize they are Israelites who are commanded to keep the covenant with Yahu.

Later, Judah also fell into idolatry and Yahu sent the prophet Jeremiah to warn them to repent of their sin but they refused. Jeremiah told them to surrender to King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon but they refused and so the Babylonians attacked and captured Judah. Judah was exiled for 70 years in Babylon so that the land could enjoy it's land Sabbaths which the Jews had not observed. After this some Jews were allowed to return to the the land and rebuild the temple.

In 30 AD, when Yashua the anointed one came, the church of his time which was led by the Pharisees and Saducees, rejected Yahshua the Messiah and plotted to have him killed. Even though Yahshua did miracles and even resurrected Lazarus, the priests of his day had him killed perhaps because he was a threat to their leadership, perhaps because they were jealous of him. To this day, most Jews repeat the mistake of their ancestors in rejecting Yashua rather than repenting of and confessing the sins of their ancestors. But because they rejected their Messiah, in 70 AD the Romans came and destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews throughout the world in what is called the Diaspora.

Now America has also broken it's covenant with Yahu Elohim and because of this will be judged with 7 years of famine although it may be less in some areas, suffer through a depression worse than the Great Depression with a stock market crash and the dollar eventually becoming worthless, plagues like bird flu, a white blister plague and an ebola type plague, will have gangs acting like wild animals going around killing, raping and looting, will have multiple cities being attacked with bombs possibly dirty nukes, have electricity problems possibly because of solar CMEs or cyber attacks, will experience a huge Utah earthquake, the big California earthquake where a large chunk of California falls into the ocean causing world wide tsunami, a New Madrid earthquake that splits the USA along the Mississippi River thus Yahu divides our land because we divided Israel, Russian subs nuking California, New York State, Florida and Las Vegas with the Russians invading from the east coast and Chinese and Japanese invading from the west coast with Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico and two other nations helping them and then 7 years under captivity until Yahu relents and Americans led by a godly leader run out the Russians and Chinese but America will be destroyed and most of its population dead for not keeping Torah, not keeping it's covenant with Yahu, for turning it's back on Yahu.

As King Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun.
This has happened at least three times before and it's going to happen again with America. Prepare yourself by accepting Yahshua as Messiah, repenting of your sins, confessing the sins of your fathers, keeping Torah and the everlasting covenant and listening and heeding the prophets and apostles of Yahu Elohim.
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Pandora's movie watch night

Today I watch this documentary, "The power principle" the movie is four hours and twenty five minutes long... I have not finish watching it all but its been very interesting so far the parts I have seen... The movie is about how the USA has use its military and media propaganda to overthrow nations and just governments that were seeking the good of their people.. So a few corporations could explotate the people and its resources of those nations... The more I study the history of world the more I realize that there has being people that has stood against evil, even when it mean their imminent death.... They are a testament of true for all eternity...

The more I study the history of the last sixty years the more I realize how evil this government has being... They are responsible for most if not all the wars of the last fifty years... They responsible for millions of deaths around the planet, all in the name of money... This government represents without a doubt in my mind the greatest enemy and threat against humanity that has ever existed since the foundation of civilization in this world ....... I belive that if the American people knew fully what this government has done to them and the people of earth, tomorrow morning could erupt a full civil war no doubt in my mind ...the scam of so call democracy will not stand for ever, for humanity will awake to the true of what this system trully represents, A lie...
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If somebody can put the full movie in this thread I will appreciate it..
The power principal.


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Pandora's movie watch night

Today I watch this documentary, "The power principle" the movie is four hours and twenty five minutes long... I have not finish watching it all but its been very interesting so far the parts I have seen... The movie is about how the USA has use its military and media propaganda to overthrow nations and just governments that were seeking the good of their people.. So a few corporations could explotate the people and its resources of those nations... The more I study the history of world the more I realize that there has being people that has stood against evil, even when it mean their imminent death.... They are a testament of true for all eternity...

The more I study the history of the last sixty years the more I realize how evil this government has being... They are responsible for most if not all the wars of the last fifty years... They responsible for millions of deaths around the planet, all in the name of money... This government represents without a doubt in my mind the greatest enemy and threat against humanity that has ever existed since the foundation of civilization in this world ....... I belive that if the American people knew fully what this government has done to them and the people of earth, tomorrow morning could erupt a full civil war no doubt in my mind ...the scam of so call democracy will not stand for ever, for humanity will awake to the true of what this system trully represents, A lie...
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Carolyn Hamlett's, ex-illumined one, Testimony

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There is no scarcity, the planet produces more than enough to feed, house and cloth all... The scarcity is cause by the wrong administration of the resources of the planet.. How much does United States spends in the wars and the upkeep of the military in general yearly? Probably billions upon billions, with that kind of money you could end hunger at once in the planet. Imagine if the resources of the planet were to be use and administrated in a just and universal manner for the benefit of all humanity.. I can said that all this misery, could be ended at once at that moment ..

The true of the matter is that there is no scarcity what there is, is simply the lack of morality to do the right thing...

Your world leaders of the nations of the world have fail you and there is no greater prove of this, than the conditions in which the planet is at this moment... for all of you to continue to support all this systems of oppression represented by the nations of the world is pure madness...

There is no greater cause than the cause to achieve the one world government and by doing so, permit the liberation of billions of suffering people from this evil system of countries, which its only purpose is to exploit and destroy mankind and this beautiful planet...

There is no greater purpose to live and die, than the revolution to achieve a world free from national borders, containments, poverty, disease and all the miseries that this reality represents...

Today's thoughts of Pandora's box
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There is no scarcity, the planet produces more than enough to feed, house and cloth all... The scarcity is cause by the wrong administration of the resources of the planet.. How much does United States spends in the wars and the upkeep of the military in general yearly? Probably billions upon billions, with that kind of money you could end hunger at once in the planet. Imagine if the resources of the planet were to be use and administrated in a just and universal manner for the benefit of all humanity.. I can said that all this misery, could be ended at once at that moment ..

The true of the matter is that there is no scarcity what there is, is simply the lack of morality to do the right thing...

Your world leaders of the nations of the world have fail you and there is no greater prove of this, than the conditions in which the planet is at this moment... for all of you to continue to support all this systems of oppression represented by the nations of the world is pure madness...

There is no greater cause than the cause to achieve the one world government and by doing so, permit the liberation of billions of suffering people from this evil system of countries, which its only purpose is to exploit and destroy mankind and this beautiful planet...

There is no greater purpose to live and die, than the revolution to achieve a world free from national borders, containments, poverty, disease and all the miseries that this reality represents...

Today's thoughts of Pandora's box
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Thank you so much for saying the Truth.
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Thank you brother/sister and thanks for reading it...

There is no scarcity, the planet produces more than enough to feed, house and cloth all... The scarcity is cause by the wrong administration of the resources of the planet.. How much does United States spends in the wars and the upkeep of the military in general yearly? Probably billions upon billions, with that kind of money you could end hunger at once in the planet. Imagine if the resources of the planet were to be use and administrated in a just and universal manner for the benefit of all humanity.. I can said that all this misery, could be ended at once at that moment ..

The true of the matter is that there is no scarcity what there is, is simply the lack of morality to do the right thing...

Your world leaders of the nations of the world have fail you and there is no greater prove of this, than the conditions in which the planet is at this moment... for all of you to continue to support all this systems of oppression represented by the nations of the world is pure madness...

There is no greater cause than the cause to achieve the one world government and by doing so, permit the liberation of billions of suffering people from this evil system of countries, which its only purpose is to exploit and destroy mankind and this beautiful planet...

There is no greater purpose to live and die, than the revolution to achieve a world free from national borders, containments, poverty, disease and all the miseries that this reality represents...

Today's thoughts of Pandora's box
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Thank you so much for saying the Truth.
(Read and re-read every morning) peace
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these so called elites support both sides, whichever sides wins, that side they will be on. even if people get rid of the rothschilds and the other big banker families there are others, stronger ones behind the scenes who will be overlooked.

if there ever will be a so called world leader he will be one of theirs im sure of it. just another puppet.
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these so called elites support both sides, whichever sides wins, that side they will be on. even if people get rid of the rothschilds and the other big banker families there are others, stronger ones behind the scenes who will be overlooked.

if there ever will be a so called world leader he will be one of theirs im sure of it. just another puppet.
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these so called elites support both sides, whichever sides wins, that side they will be on. even if people get rid of the rothschilds and the other big banker families there are others, stronger ones behind the scenes who will be overlooked.

if there ever will be a so called world leader he will be one of theirs im sure of it. just another puppet.
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Takes 2 to tango......
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these so called elites support both sides, whichever sides wins, that side they will be on. even if people get rid of the rothschilds and the other big banker families there are others, stronger ones behind the scenes who will be overlooked.

if there ever will be a so called world leader he will be one of theirs im sure of it. just another puppet.
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I agree, the elite play both sides. In a war, they will lend to both nations to get them in debt and sell arms to both nations to profit from the war.

If you ever studied the alien agenda, you'll find that the greys abduct people and experiment on them, often sexually, and produce alien human hybirds like the fallen Watchers in the Book of Enoch. The reptilians are over the greys and they are evil too. So the greys and reptilians are the bad guys. And the Pleidian or Nordics who are tall, blonde, good looking are supposed to be the good guys but they teach New Age philosophy and you don't ever hear them telling people to repent of their sins, receive Yahshua as Messiah and Savior and worship Yah. So you have good guys and bad guys but really both are leading you astray.

Satan, the prince of this world, rules through the secret societies that put people in bondage by using a fiat fractional reserve money system that will collapse, feeding people dangerous food products like high fructose corn syrup, MSG, hydrogenated oils, spraying chem-trails, launching needless civil wars in countries that do not bow to the NWO, dumbing down America through their education system, controlling mass media keeping people ignorant and so on.

What happens if Satan introduces and handsome, well spoken, charismatic figure that tells us what we know to be true and gets rid of this fiat fractional reserve money system, introduces free energy devices that the elite have suppressed, introduces cures to aids, cancer and other diseases that have been suppressed, new forms of raising food such as aquaculture which require less land and water, puts an end to the war mongering, improves education for all with free on line classes or dvd sets taught by the best teachers. If he comes in after WW3 when USA has been nuked and invaded by Russia and China, then people will be war weary and be looking for a hero, like this nobody antichrist fellow and many will idolize him and worship him. It's sad to say but that is what is prophesied. Satan is a master deceiver so first he presents the problem, a world run by secret societies that impoverishes the world, and then the solution, a charismatic antichrist who solves the worlds problems.

But those who know their God will accomplish great things during this time of great darkness and they will lead many to righteousness, for truth tends to itself.
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Three Examples of Elohim Judging a Nation That Broke a Covenant with Him

After Kind David passed away, his son Solomon became king of Israel. King Solomon built the first temple in Jerusalem and was given great wisdom and riches by Yahu Elohim. King Solomon received tribute from many nations and made treaties with them and married the daughters of many kings. Unfortunately, just as King David had committed adultery with Bathsheba and schemed to have her husband killed, King Solomon also sinned in the area of woman. It is forbidden to marry a non-Israelite woman because she may not worship Yahu and she will lead her husband's heart astray. All these foreign wives that King Solomon had led his heart away from serving Yahu Elohim with his whole heart. Because of this after King Solomon passed away, Yahu spit the kingdom of Israel into the southern kingdom, which King Solomon's son ruled over which is called Judah consisting of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and some Levites and the northern kingdom consisting of the other 10 tribes which is called Israel.

Jereboam, leader of the ten tribes of northern Israel was afraid of having the people go to celebrate Yahu's appointed festivals in Jersualem because he was afraid they would join the kingdom of Judah and defect. So Jereboam made golden bulls as gods I believe and appointed his own priests and not Yahu's appointed Levite priests. Jereboam sinned greatly in this and in 722 BC I believe, Yahu Elohim sent the Assyrian army to invade Israel and conquer the Israelites. The 10 tribes were scattered throughout and many today who are of these 10 tribes no longer realize they are Israelites who are commanded to keep the covenant with Yahu.

Later, Judah also fell into idolatry and Yahu sent the prophet Jeremiah to warn them to repent of their sin but they refused. Jeremiah told them to surrender to King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon but they refused and so the Babylonians attacked and captured Judah. Judah was exiled for 70 years in Babylon so that the land could enjoy it's land Sabbaths which the Jews had not observed. After this some Jews were allowed to return to the the land and rebuild the temple.

In 30 AD, when Yashua the anointed one came, the church of his time which was led by the Pharisees and Saducees, rejected Yahshua the Messiah and plotted to have him killed. Even though Yahshua did miracles and even resurrected Lazarus, the priests of his day had him killed perhaps because he was a threat to their leadership, perhaps because they were jealous of him. To this day, most Jews repeat the mistake of their ancestors in rejecting Yashua rather than repenting of and confessing the sins of their ancestors. But because they rejected their Messiah, in 70 AD the Romans came and destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews throughout the world in what is called the Diaspora.

Now America has also broken it's covenant with Yahu Elohim and because of this will be judged with 7 years of famine although it may be less in some areas, suffer through a depression worse than the Great Depression with a stock market crash and the dollar eventually becoming worthless, plagues like bird flu, a white blister plague and an ebola type plague, will have gangs acting like wild animals going around killing, raping and looting, will have multiple cities being attacked with bombs possibly dirty nukes, have electricity problems possibly because of solar CMEs or cyber attacks, will experience a huge Utah earthquake, the big California earthquake where a large chunk of California falls into the ocean causing world wide tsunami, a New Madrid earthquake that splits the USA along the Mississippi River thus Yahu divides our land because we divided Israel, Russian subs nuking California, New York State, Florida and Las Vegas with the Russians invading from the east coast and Chinese and Japanese invading from the west coast with Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico and two other nations helping them and then 7 years under captivity until Yahu relents and Americans led by a godly leader run out the Russians and Chinese but America will be destroyed and most of its population dead for not keeping Torah, not keeping it's covenant with Yahu, for turning it's back on Yahu.

As King Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun.
This has happened at least three times before and it's going to happen again with America. Prepare yourself by accepting Yahshua as Messiah, repenting of your sins, confessing the sins of your fathers, keeping Torah and the everlasting covenant and listening and heeding the prophets and apostles of Yahu Elohim.
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As much as i like American people, I dun think anyone godly, or "godly leader" can emerge from there. The brainwashed Americans dunno where Iraq is but started a war. The dumbing down education system ensures it can never happen.
And China and Russia would not invade. America will fall by itself, civil war and economic catastrophe. No one would waste a bullet. They just need to wait. Your notion of war makes you so American. Almost all the wars in last 2centuries are instigated or started by America.
You can be surprised by how much better the world will be without American leaders.

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