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!!!God wants us to Love & Trust Him!!! Proof He loves us and He cares.

 
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Can't you damn people go preach somewhere else????
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what has allah to do here?
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muslims worship allah, he tells them to kill, Christians worship the Lord God, He tells Us to be still and know that He is God.
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the post you quoted said nothing about Allah. BTW, Allah is the same that El. El, Elohim is... Yahveh himself. Assume it.
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Psalm 46

1God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;

3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.

6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.

9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.


10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.


^That's in the Jewish Tanakh, You don't have to assume that.^


The muslim nations have the majority of the oil, You don't have to assume that either.
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Your posts are some very nice examples of what is a non sequitur.
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a picture is worth a thousand words: [link to surprisingtreasures.com]
Water always wins.
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I wished there was this religi war where all religitards would kill eachother.

Extinction of all religion is my faith.
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Yahshua(Jesus Christ) is the promised seed of the woman that was promised by the Lord God in the Garden of Eden, Genesis 3.
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No he's not. That's what they would like you to think. The Hebrew messiah has yet to come.

Christ came from a much higher power than YHVH. He came from the Inconceivable One.
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O.O, now what conceivable notion did You base that on?
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The Nag Hammadi
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The Nag Hammadi: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnostic's believe that an inconceivable god created a lesser god to create all things for Him, what would be the point of doing that, why would You want anything creating something for You that can't conceive You?

Why not cut out the middle man and then never reveal Yourself?
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No he's not. That's what they would like you to think. The Hebrew messiah has yet to come.

Christ came from a much higher power than YHVH. He came from the Inconceivable One.
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O.O, now what conceivable notion did You base that on?
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The Nag Hammadi
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The Nag Hammadi: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnostic's believe that an inconceivable god created a lesser god to create all things for Him, what would be the point of doing that, why would You want anything creating something for You that can't conceive You?

Why not cut out the middle man and then never reveal Yourself?
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Not so simple. Emanantism is way more complex.
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muslims worship allah, he tells them to kill, Christians worship the Lord God, He tells Us to be still and know that He is God.
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the post you quoted said nothing about Allah. BTW, Allah is the same that El. El, Elohim is... Yahveh himself. Assume it.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Psalm 46

1God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;

3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.

6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.

9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.


10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.


^That's in the Jewish Tanakh, You don't have to assume that.^


The muslim nations have the majority of the oil, You don't have to assume that either.
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Your posts are some very nice examples of what is a non sequitur.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Explain.
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God is Great!
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that's the problem with believing in a metaphysical being....always trying to decide what it is it wants.
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the post you quoted said nothing about Allah. BTW, Allah is the same that El. El, Elohim is... Yahveh himself. Assume it.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Psalm 46

1God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;

3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.

6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.

9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.


10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.


^That's in the Jewish Tanakh, You don't have to assume that.^


The muslim nations have the majority of the oil, You don't have to assume that either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Your posts are some very nice examples of what is a non sequitur.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Explain.
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There you go, posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts quoted or referred.
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Hey there OP, I'm a Christian. Doesn't one of the Proverbs (can't remember which one) says to don't preach to scoffers?
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Doesn't Jesus saying something about hypocrites who worship in public only to be seen by men..


What do you think this thread is about?
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that's the problem with believing in a metaphysical being....always trying to decide what it is it wants.
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I think God just wants us to hit the middle ground

Human beings seem to be the only things in creation that have a problem with that.... bunch of extremists, we are
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Psalm 46

1God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;

3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.

6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.

9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.


10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.


^That's in the Jewish Tanakh, You don't have to assume that.^


The muslim nations have the majority of the oil, You don't have to assume that either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Your posts are some very nice examples of what is a non sequitur.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Explain.
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There you go, posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts quoted or referred.
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Well, everyone has freedom to do what they want in the time they have here, how it was spent does have consequences when they leave here though, whatever You spend Your time on now You'll need to pay for later.

The wiki link was referring to You saying that my posts were non sequitr.

non sequitr: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please explain why.
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Your posts are some very nice examples of what is a non sequitur.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Explain.
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There you go, posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts quoted or referred.
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Well, everyone has freedom to do what they want in the time they have here, how it was spent does have consequences when they leave here though, whatever You spend Your time on now You'll need to pay for later.

The wiki link was referring to You saying that my posts were non sequitr.

non sequitr: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please explain why.
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I explained it yet: you posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts you quoted or referred. For example, one guy tells you something about Yahveh as the God of the Jews and an evil one, and you go with allah and the muslims... see what I mean?
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Why is this pinned? The picture is not Yahoshua, the angles are not real and the op is promoting his or her own post.
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O.O, now what conceivable notion did You base that on?
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The Nag Hammadi
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The Nag Hammadi: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnostic's believe that an inconceivable god created a lesser god to create all things for Him, what would be the point of doing that, why would You want anything creating something for You that can't conceive You?

Why not cut out the middle man and then never reveal Yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Not so simple. Emanantism is way more complex.
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Explain Emanantisum in simple terms please, I can't find much about it.
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The Nag Hammadi
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The Nag Hammadi: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnostic's believe that an inconceivable god created a lesser god to create all things for Him, what would be the point of doing that, why would You want anything creating something for You that can't conceive You?

Why not cut out the middle man and then never reveal Yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Not so simple. Emanantism is way more complex.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Explain Emanantisum in simple terms please, I can't find much about it.
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Maybe it's not a correct word in english (sorry if so, english is not my first language... my bad). Ok, I searched, it's "emanatism", sorry... It refers to a cosmological and metaphysical theory which is nor purely creationism neither evolutionism. The Gnosis is mainly in this terms an emanatism: world emanates from the One, the Supreme God, in a serie of hyposthasis or "realities", from the higher ones (the Cosmical Soul, the Intelligence...) to the lower ones (the souls of the creatures, the forms of the material beings...). Yahveh, in this scheme, is an intermediate reality, some kind of Intelligence which puts the chaotic matter in an order according to the Eternal Ideas or Archetypes...
well, that's a brew explanation. You can read Plotin, Plato, the gnostics, if interested.
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There you go, posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts quoted or referred.
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Well, everyone has freedom to do what they want in the time they have here, how it was spent does have consequences when they leave here though, whatever You spend Your time on now You'll need to pay for later.

The wiki link was referring to You saying that my posts were non sequitr.

non sequitr: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please explain why.
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I explained it yet: you posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts you quoted or referred. For example, one guy tells you something about Yahveh as the God of the Jews and an evil one, and you go with allah and the muslims... see what I mean?
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I looked up the wiki article that He posted about "9/11 the Jews did it" and found links to muslims.

The Jews do not have the oil, since "be still and know that I am God" is a popular Psalm in the old testament and the Jewish faith uses the old testament then what do You think: allah says go and kill, the Lord God says "be still and know that I am God".
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There you go, posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts quoted or referred.
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Well, everyone has freedom to do what they want in the time they have here, how it was spent does have consequences when they leave here though, whatever You spend Your time on now You'll need to pay for later.

The wiki link was referring to You saying that my posts were non sequitr.

non sequitr: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please explain why.
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I explained it yet: you posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts you quoted or referred. For example, one guy tells you something about Yahveh as the God of the Jews and an evil one, and you go with allah and the muslims... see what I mean?
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


I looked up the wiki article that He posted about "9/11 the Jews did it" and found links to muslims.

The Jews do not have the oil, since "be still and know that I am God" is a popular Psalm in the old testament and the Jewish faith uses the old testament then what do You think: allah says go and kill, the Lord God says "be still and know that I am God".
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Hmm... didn't say Yahveh in the Bible to hebrews to annihilite peoples like the moabites, the canaanites, the philistines, the ammonites, etc, etc?
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The Nag Hammadi: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnostic's believe that an inconceivable god created a lesser god to create all things for Him, what would be the point of doing that, why would You want anything creating something for You that can't conceive You?

Why not cut out the middle man and then never reveal Yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Not so simple. Emanantism is way more complex.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Explain Emanantisum in simple terms please, I can't find much about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Maybe it's not a correct word in english (sorry if so, english is not my first language... my bad). Ok, I searched, it's "emanatism", sorry... It refers to a cosmological and metaphysical theory which is nor purely creationism neither evolutionism. The Gnosis is mainly in this terms an emanatism: world emanates from the One, the Supreme God, in a serie of hyposthasis or "realities", from the higher ones (the Cosmical Soul, the Intelligence...) to the lower ones (the souls of the creatures, the forms of the material beings...). Yahveh, in this scheme, is an intermediate reality, some kind of Intelligence which puts the chaotic matter in an order according to the Eternal Ideas or Archetypes...
well, that's a brew explanation. You can read Plotin, Plato, the gnostics, if interested.
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Would the Supreme God have a direct connection to His creation through Yahveh in this "emanatisum" belief?
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The only proof I see about God's love is this thread being pinned =0D

Still, the point remains. I was just thinking there would be crazy videos of angles beating up demons or someth'n.
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Well, everyone has freedom to do what they want in the time they have here, how it was spent does have consequences when they leave here though, whatever You spend Your time on now You'll need to pay for later.

The wiki link was referring to You saying that my posts were non sequitr.

non sequitr: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Please explain why.
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I explained it yet: you posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts you quoted or referred. For example, one guy tells you something about Yahveh as the God of the Jews and an evil one, and you go with allah and the muslims... see what I mean?
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


I looked up the wiki article that He posted about "9/11 the Jews did it" and found links to muslims.

The Jews do not have the oil, since "be still and know that I am God" is a popular Psalm in the old testament and the Jewish faith uses the old testament then what do You think: allah says go and kill, the Lord God says "be still and know that I am God".
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Hmm... didn't say Yahveh in the Bible to hebrews to annihilite peoples like the moabites, the canaanites, the philistines, the ammonites, etc, etc?
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Are You sure it was people? I just see that it says giants an awful lot;)
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I Love Jesus and He Loves ALL of us..every ONE of US..Unconditional LOVE .HE Lives in My Heart and Soul and I Love Everyone...not just some but ALL.
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Not so simple. Emanantism is way more complex.
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Explain Emanantisum in simple terms please, I can't find much about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Maybe it's not a correct word in english (sorry if so, english is not my first language... my bad). Ok, I searched, it's "emanatism", sorry... It refers to a cosmological and metaphysical theory which is nor purely creationism neither evolutionism. The Gnosis is mainly in this terms an emanatism: world emanates from the One, the Supreme God, in a serie of hyposthasis or "realities", from the higher ones (the Cosmical Soul, the Intelligence...) to the lower ones (the souls of the creatures, the forms of the material beings...). Yahveh, in this scheme, is an intermediate reality, some kind of Intelligence which puts the chaotic matter in an order according to the Eternal Ideas or Archetypes...
well, that's a brew explanation. You can read Plotin, Plato, the gnostics, if interested.
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Would the Supreme God have a direct connection to His creation through Yahveh in this "emanatisum" belief?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


For what I know about the subject, it was believed that the Supreme God ("The One" in Plotin) is so transcendental that cannot be really known by ourselves, but only via negative theology. In this way, they insist God is far away from all realities, and for that cause He Himself couldn't be involved in the creation or to give an order to the lower matter directly, that's was the task of the subsequent emanations. The one who gives matter an order, Yahveh, Jehovah, the Demiurg, the Intelligence... he has different names, is the god of this lower reality, the material world. Not he is really evil, but imperfect, that's why world is imperfect too. The cathars (christian puritanical heressy) believed Jehovah was the same as Satan and therefore this world we live is evil. They believed in the Supreme God.
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This is YHVH (The Evil One)

"And the Sophia of the Epinoia, being an aeon, conceived a thought from herself and the conception of the invisible Spirit and foreknowledge. She wanted to bring forth a likeness out of herself without the consent of the Spirit, - he had not approved - and without her consort, and without his consideration. And though the person of her maleness had not approved, and she had not found her agreement, and she had thought without the consent of the Spirit and the knowledge of her agreement, (yet) she brought forth. And because of the invincible power which is in her, her thought did not remain idle, and something came out of her which was imperfect and different from her appearance, because she had created it without her consort. And it was dissimilar to the likeness of its mother, for it has another form.

"And when she saw (the consequences of) her desire, it changed into a form of a lion-faced serpent. And its eyes were like lightning fires which flash. She cast it away from her, outside that place, that no one of the immortal ones might see it, for she had created it in ignorance. And she surrounded it with a luminous cloud, and she placed a throne in the middle of the cloud that no one might see it except the holy Spirit who is called the mother of the living. And she called his name Yaltabaoth.

"And having created [...] everything, he organized according to the model of the first aeons which had come into being, so that he might create them like the indestructible ones. Not because he had seen the indestructible ones, but the power in him, which he had taken from his mother, produced in him the likeness of the cosmos. And when he saw the creation which surrounds him, and the multitude of the angels around him which had come forth from him, he said to them, 'I am a jealous God, and there is no other God beside me.' But by announcing this he indicated to the angels who attended him that there exists another God. For if there were no other one, of whom would he be jealous?
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I explained it yet: you posting things which had nothing to do with the previous posts you quoted or referred. For example, one guy tells you something about Yahveh as the God of the Jews and an evil one, and you go with allah and the muslims... see what I mean?
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


I looked up the wiki article that He posted about "9/11 the Jews did it" and found links to muslims.

The Jews do not have the oil, since "be still and know that I am God" is a popular Psalm in the old testament and the Jewish faith uses the old testament then what do You think: allah says go and kill, the Lord God says "be still and know that I am God".
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Hmm... didn't say Yahveh in the Bible to hebrews to annihilite peoples like the moabites, the canaanites, the philistines, the ammonites, etc, etc?
 Quoting: TheNihilistProphet


Are You sure it was people? I just see that it says giants an awful lot;)
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you really read the Bible...? moabites, ammonites, were semitical people, in fact related to hebrews (the Bible says they were descendants of Moab and Ammon (or Ben Ammi), sons of Lot with his own daughters... not worth to repeat here the story, I think). Canaanites and philistines were camitical people.
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There is no God. Peace be with you.
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Explain Emanantisum in simple terms please, I can't find much about it.
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Maybe it's not a correct word in english (sorry if so, english is not my first language... my bad). Ok, I searched, it's "emanatism", sorry... It refers to a cosmological and metaphysical theory which is nor purely creationism neither evolutionism. The Gnosis is mainly in this terms an emanatism: world emanates from the One, the Supreme God, in a serie of hyposthasis or "realities", from the higher ones (the Cosmical Soul, the Intelligence...) to the lower ones (the souls of the creatures, the forms of the material beings...). Yahveh, in this scheme, is an intermediate reality, some kind of Intelligence which puts the chaotic matter in an order according to the Eternal Ideas or Archetypes...
well, that's a brew explanation. You can read Plotin, Plato, the gnostics, if interested.
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Would the Supreme God have a direct connection to His creation through Yahveh in this "emanatisum" belief?
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For what I know about the subject, it was believed that the Supreme God ("The One" in Plotin) is so transcendental that cannot be really known by ourselves, but only via negative theology. In this way, they insist God is far away from all realities, and for that cause He Himself couldn't be involved in the creation or to give an order to the lower matter directly, that's was the task of the subsequent emanations. The one who gives matter an order, Yahveh, Jehovah, the Demiurg, the Intelligence... he has different names, is the god of this lower reality, the material world. Not he is really evil, but imperfect, that's why world is imperfect too. The cathars (christian puritanical heressy) believed Jehovah was the same as Satan and therefore this world we live is evil. They believed in the Supreme God.
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Then what's the use of creating anything if You can't be involved with it?
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Maybe it's not a correct word in english (sorry if so, english is not my first language... my bad). Ok, I searched, it's "emanatism", sorry... It refers to a cosmological and metaphysical theory which is nor purely creationism neither evolutionism. The Gnosis is mainly in this terms an emanatism: world emanates from the One, the Supreme God, in a serie of hyposthasis or "realities", from the higher ones (the Cosmical Soul, the Intelligence...) to the lower ones (the souls of the creatures, the forms of the material beings...). Yahveh, in this scheme, is an intermediate reality, some kind of Intelligence which puts the chaotic matter in an order according to the Eternal Ideas or Archetypes...
well, that's a brew explanation. You can read Plotin, Plato, the gnostics, if interested.
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Would the Supreme God have a direct connection to His creation through Yahveh in this "emanatisum" belief?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


For what I know about the subject, it was believed that the Supreme God ("The One" in Plotin) is so transcendental that cannot be really known by ourselves, but only via negative theology. In this way, they insist God is far away from all realities, and for that cause He Himself couldn't be involved in the creation or to give an order to the lower matter directly, that's was the task of the subsequent emanations. The one who gives matter an order, Yahveh, Jehovah, the Demiurg, the Intelligence... he has different names, is the god of this lower reality, the material world. Not he is really evil, but imperfect, that's why world is imperfect too. The cathars (christian puritanical heressy) believed Jehovah was the same as Satan and therefore this world we live is evil. They believed in the Supreme God.
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Then what's the use of creating anything if You can't be involved with it?
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who said creation has to have a use? 1dunno1





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